I now understand why Mass Effect fit in one disc with lots of space left.

hhahaha. wastelands.

now tell me the reason why the game is having technical problems

Well. It is not true that there is absolutely nothing in most of them, but they are pathetically almost empty.

Its pretty sad they wasted all that space for some really unimportant stuff the game has the offer.

Well. It is not true that there is absolutely nothing in most of them, but they are pathetically almost empty.

Its pretty sad they wasted all that space for some really unimportant stuff the game has the offer.

Cedmln

Lemmings got triple-owned by Mass Effect.

First it flopped in score. Then it flopped in sales. Now it makes Blu ray look useful!

:P

hhahaha. wastelands.

now tell me the reason why the game is having technical problems

def_mode

Poor optimization? I don't know. The only time I noticed lots of framerate issues was in that one snowy planet where it was almost impossible, and when I fought those weird crab-like sorta creatures in Noveria.

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]

Well. It is not true that there is absolutely nothing in most of them, but they are pathetically almost empty.

Its pretty sad they wasted all that space for some really unimportant stuff the game has the offer.

SkullboyX

So the excuse is that it's supposed to be "realistic?" -.-

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]

Well. It is not true that there is absolutely nothing in most of them, but they are pathetically almost empty.

Its pretty sad they wasted all that space for some really unimportant stuff the game has the offer.

SkullboyX

Oh I'm sorry, was this a game based on a real galaxy? For godsake we couldn't even visit the Turian planet or whatever. There is no substance in this game.

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]

Well. It is not true that there is absolutely nothing in most of them, but they are pathetically almost empty.

Its pretty sad they wasted all that space for some really unimportant stuff the game has the offer.

SkullboyX

So? Would you make a shooter set in the sahara desert with no features other than an occasional camel?

Environments in games should never be empty. Unless it's part of the designer's artistic vision, like in Shadow of the Colossus.

hhahaha. wastelands.

now tell me the reason why the game is having technical problems

def_mode

a game like ME needs a Hard Drive

[QUOTE="Cedmln"] SkullboyX

Um... Hello? This game isn't based on a true story or real life for that matter.

the way you people talk about it you expect a city the size of new york on every single planet in the milky way, the point is to explore these planets, find rare metals, find old war memoribilia, downed spacecrafts,mecernary camps, enemies etc.Big_player

Clearly that's boring and nobody would want to do that.

I'd rather play for 10 hours on barren planets than play 4 hours as a female Kratos in populated environments.Legendaryscmt

What game are you referring to, I can't understand.

[QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]I'd rather play for 10 hours on barren planets than play 4 hours as a female Kratos in populated environments.Ilived

What game are you referring to, I can't understand.

There needs to be more towns like in KOTOR. The Citadel and the sad excuse for a town that is Noveria ain't cuttin it.Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Ilived"]

[QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]I'd rather play for 10 hours on barren planets than play 4 hours as a female Kratos in populated environments.Vandalvideo

What game are you referring to, I can't understand.

What was the point of mentioning that game? It's not like its an rpg...

So is Mass Effect shadow of the colossus with a story minus the colossi?-Serpahim-

lly, extra disk space IS NEEDED.

Let's take a look here. Remember Oblivion? The dungeons? The same dungeons, same trees, same everything basically? You know how there would be like 3 people in a town at once barely being able to do anything? How buildings all looked alike?

And now Mass Effect. Lots of baren planets, and planets don't have much form of life. If all planets were completely different, had many different forms of life, and different architecutre, I guarantee the game would be about 15GBs minimum.

Yeah, they had some space left. It's because they didn't want to make one planet extremely diverse and the others left baren because the DVD space has run out. But whatever lemmings, its ok!!!!

Omg, you don't like it, the game must lack in substance for all of us.:roll: I love people who try to force their opinions on others.:?BioShockOwnz

You kidding? I LOVE THIS GAME! You haven't seen me defending it in threads that bash it? I'm just pointing out that this could have been the best game ever if it had many races and their home planets to go in and many big cities etc.

lly, extra disk space IS NEEDED.

Let's take a look here. Remember Oblivion? The dungeons? The same dungeons, same trees, same everything basically? You know how there would be like 3 people in a town at once barely being able to do anything? How buildings all looked alike?

And now Mass Effect. Lots of baren planets, and planets don't have much form of life. If all planets were completely different, had many different forms of life, and different architecutre, I guarantee the game would be about 15GBs minimum.

Yeah, they had some space left. It's because they didn't want to make one planet extremely diverse and the others left baren because the DVD space has run out. But whatever lemmings, its ok!!!!

Vorserider2

Have you played PS3 games? Do you know how linear and short the majority of them are? Blu-ray may be a positive down the line, but it's yet to prove itself.

Lemmings got triple-owned by Mass Effect.

First it flopped in score. Then it flopped in sales. Now it makes Blu ray look useful!

:P

sexy_chimp

I agree the planets are pretty much empty in terms of detail and what not. There are some occassions where life does exist (other than enemies), but it's so few and far between it's hardly worth mentioning. I think I really got this awe inspiring feeling when I came up over mountains and hills and saw some of the cool sky setting more than anything I found on land itself.

There is also a issue of reuse. I travel light years and yet the blue prints for these places are like carbon copies.

Love the game but I could nit pick a lot about it.

[QUOTE="-Serpahim-"]So is Mass Effect shadow of the colossus with a story minus the colossi?Sir-Marwin105

Im sorry i wanst more specific with my question, and this is an honest question because im on the fence about buying this game since i have never liked Bioware games. I know that there are alot of NPCs with alot of enemies, but my question is in these "wasteland" areas, does mass effect feel as barren as SotC? This is ok, if the scenery makes up for it such as in SotC (which happens to be one of my favorite games :) )

I agree the planets are pretty much empty in terms of detail and what not. There are some occassions where life does exist (other than enemies), but it's so few and far between it's hardly worth mentioning. I think I really got this awe inspiring feeling when I came up over mountains and hills and saw some of the cool sky setting more than anything I found on land itself.

There is also a issue of reuse. I travel light years and yet the blue prints for these places are like carbon copies.

Love the game but I could nit pick a lot about it.

-RPGamer-

POPULATING THE PLANETS WITH MODELS AND GEOMTETRY WOULD HAVE MINIMAL EFFECT ON GAMESPACE.

Its amazing how poeple that dont know things presume. Putting models already in your game in another level from the one there already in is simple and easy. The actual level data itself is quite small, its the textures and such that take up space. Since those textures and models are already on the disk it would have been pretty painless. For whatever reason Bioware wanted them barren.

As for the argument theyd all "look the same", thats stretching it a bit, cause theres lots of textures and plenty of ways to mix them up, but yes, theyd all look a little similiar. Ofcourse, NO game offers that kind of diversity right now, so blaming it on DVD is pretty childish.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Omg, you don't like it, the game must lack in substance for all of us.:roll: I love people who try to force their opinions on others.:?Ilived

You kidding? I LOVE THIS GAME! You haven't seen me defending it in threads that bash it? I'm just pointing out that this could have been the best game ever if it had many races and their home planets to go in and many big cities etc.

lly, extra disk space IS NEEDED.

Let's take a look here. Remember Oblivion? The dungeons? The same dungeons, same trees, same everything basically? You know how there would be like 3 people in a town at once barely being able to do anything? How buildings all looked alike?

And now Mass Effect. Lots of baren planets, and planets don't have much form of life. If all planets were completely different, had many different forms of life, and different architecutre, I guarantee the game would be about 15GBs minimum.

Yeah, they had some space left. It's because they didn't want to make one planet extremely diverse and the others left baren because the DVD space has run out. But whatever lemmings, its ok!!!!

Vorserider2

Yea, because the 360 and ps3 have huge amounts of ram that can fit thousands of different tree models :roll:

[QUOTE="Vorserider2"]

lly, extra disk space IS NEEDED.

Let's take a look here. Remember Oblivion? The dungeons? The same dungeons, same trees, same everything basically? You know how there would be like 3 people in a town at once barely being able to do anything? How buildings all looked alike?

And now Mass Effect. Lots of baren planets, and planets don't have much form of life. If all planets were completely different, had many different forms of life, and different architecutre, I guarantee the game would be about 15GBs minimum.

Yeah, they had some space left. It's because they didn't want to make one planet extremely diverse and the others left baren because the DVD space has run out. But whatever lemmings, its ok!!!!

BioShockOwnz

Have you played PS3 games? Do you know how linear and short the majority of them are? Blu-ray may be a positive down the line, but it's yet to prove itself.

I own a Playstation 3. Length has nothing to do with it. It's the vastness of the game itself. I know Lair was a huge flop (Heck I still like it), but imagine games LIKE that. That game couldn't have fit on a standard DVD. No way.

Same with Heavenly Sword. Remember the one scene where you are protecting the Heavenly Sword and there are TONS of enemies actually moving in the background? Yeah, try that with a DVD. It's not necessary, but it's cool.

Plus the entire game throughout shows different architecture. Level design is amazing, it really is.

Lots of games are starting to show the need for BD.

I agree the planets are pretty much empty in terms of detail and what not. There are some occassions where life does exist (other than enemies), but it's so few and far between it's hardly worth mentioning. I think I really got this awe inspiring feeling when I came up over mountains and hills and saw some of the cool sky setting more than anything I found on land itself.

There is also a issue of reuse. I travel light years and yet the blue prints for these places are like carbon copies.

Love the game but I could nit pick a lot about it.

-RPGamer-

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

I agree the planets are pretty much empty in terms of detail and what not. There are some occassions where life does exist (other than enemies), but it's so few and far between it's hardly worth mentioning. I think I really got this awe inspiring feeling when I came up over mountains and hills and saw some of the cool sky setting more than anything I found on land itself.

There is also a issue of reuse. I travel light years and yet the blue prints for these places are like carbon copies.

Love the game but I could nit pick a lot about it.

Brutal_Elitegs

There is reuse in that area too, since there is more than one planet with comets falling.

However, I did like that, plus I enjoyed Luna (the moon), and one of the plents which was a moon to a gas giant. It was really close to it's respective start and you could see the stars surface shifting.

lly, extra disk space IS NEEDED.

Let's take a look here. Remember Oblivion? The dungeons? The same dungeons, same trees, same everything basically? You know how there would be like 3 people in a town at once barely being able to do anything? How buildings all looked alike?

And now Mass Effect. Lots of baren planets, and planets don't have much form of life. If all planets were completely different, had many different forms of life, and different architecutre, I guarantee the game would be about 15GBs minimum.

Yeah, they had some space left. It's because they didn't want to make one planet extremely diverse and the others left baren because the DVD space has run out. But whatever lemmings, its ok!!!!

Vorserider2

I notice reuse as well. However, I don't have a gripe with the planets. Most of the ones you travel to are nigh inhabitible anyway. They make up for it with locations like Noveria and Virion (Can't remember the spelling. It's the tropical planet with tons of water and thunderstorms. You know, the nuke level.) though.

Really, there's just so much to do, and the complaints are minimal.It's my favorite game this year by far.

Lemmings got triple-owned by Mass Effect.

First it flopped in score. Then it flopped in sales. Now it makes Blu ray look useful!

:P

sexy_chimp

Lemmings got triple-owned by Mass Effect.

First it flopped in score. Then it flopped in sales. Now it makes Blu ray look useful!

:P

sexy_chimp

i bet you haven't even played it.

because every planet in the universe has highly evoled society and isn't just wastelands.....

i mean in our galaxy alone......only a few planets are landable......and the ones that are, they are just barren wastelands.

because every planet in the universe has highly evoled society and isn't just wastelands.....

i mean in our galaxy alone......only a few planets are landable......and the ones that are, they are just barren wastelands.

rocktimusprime

it sold a quarter million...compared to uncharteds 25k?

he selfowned himself.