I Propose Single Player Games = 39.99 / Single+Mulitplayer Games = 59.99

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#1 xTHExJUICEx
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So what do you guys think? Should the industry really think about this? What are some cons about it?

I personally can see myself buying more single player games if they did this.

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#2 wiretoss
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o_o

Multiplayer doesn't MAKE a game.
D:
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#3 Sir-Marwin105
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I honestly don't care.The only thing that I want to be stopped is unnecessary multiplayer. The Darkness would have been even better if they scrapped the multiplayer and added a couple more hours.
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#4 dracula_16
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That happens occasionally likeWarhawk but I think thatcompanies are reluctant to drop the prices as game budgets keep going up.
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#5 web966
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You should be able to take a game home, play it, beat itand then decide how much you want to pay for it.
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#6 Eltroz
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I agree about single player game when they are the length of Heavenly Sword for example but what about when they are games like Oblivion? Thing is the price will never change. We just need them to make the games longer. Only way to do that is to not buy the short single player games and hit them in their pocket to make the developers change things.
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#7 xTHExJUICEx
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I honestly don't care.The only thing that I want to be stopped is unnecessary multiplayer. The Darkness would have been even better if they scrapped the multiplayer and added a couple more hours.Sir-Marwin105

Now theres one con I can see. Devs adding half-butt mutliplayer aspects to games to jack up the price.

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#8 dracula_16
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I honestly don't care.The only thing that I want to be stopped is unnecessary multiplayer. The Darkness would have been even better if they scrapped the multiplayer and added a couple more hours.Sir-Marwin105

This is probably the first time, but I agree with you 100%. The Darkness is a real gem.

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#9 cobrax75
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their is no ratio....

same games are simply worth it and some arent...

their are multiplayer only games like BF2, which have more than enough value for their price...and others that dont...

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#10 Sir-Marwin105
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[QUOTE="Sir-Marwin105"]I honestly don't care.The only thing that I want to be stopped is unnecessary multiplayer. The Darkness would have been even better if they scrapped the multiplayer and added a couple more hours.dracula_16

This is probably the first time, but I agree with you 100%. The Darkness is a real gem.

Underrated imo.
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#11 elbow2k
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If a game is worth the money, then I have quarrels with spending 59.99.

For example, even though I didn't like Bioshock, I don't think one could argue that it isn't worth the money because the experience you get from it, is what makes the game.

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#12 xTHExJUICEx
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That happens occasionally likeWarhawk but I think thatcompanies are reluctant to drop the prices as game budgets keep going up. dracula_16

But you would think games like HS, R&C, and Uncharted would benefit from a lower price since as of right now, those games arent selling well at all.

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#13 gamer620
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So what do you guys think? Should the industry really think about this? What are some cons about it?

I personally can see myself buying more single player games if they did this.

xTHExJUICEx

A single player game can cost more to makethan a single/multiplayer game so no.

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#14 ArisShadows
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I say mutliplayer should be cheaper, really. A superb single player is worth more than a superb multiplayer personally. There is more work involved anyways.
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#15 MikeE21286
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I would love to see that.....it would make sense.

I would pay extra for MP in my games....Because I mean 8-10 hours of SP w/ no MP....well it's hard for me to shell out $60 on that often. Ony for rare occurences.

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#16 _MysTesO_
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I sort of agree with you.

NOT!!! Just kidding.

I think Multi-Plats = $40.00

Exclusives = $30.00

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#17 ArisShadows
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I sort of agree with you.

NOT!!! Just kidding.

I think Multi-Plats = $40.00

Exclusives = $30.00

_MysTesO_

Actually wouldn't it be the other way around? Multiplats aren't special, they are placed on multiple systems. Its the sole system exclusives that are worth more.

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#18 Old_Gooseberry
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I never play multiplayer games so I'd like that idea... does an offline 2 player co-op game count as a single player game though or is that multiplayer? These days I think of multiplayer game as one that is played online :|
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#19 jethrovegas
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Screw that.

Why in the hell should games like Resident Evil 4 cost less than games that have multiplayer?

What, did the devs for RE4 slack off or something because they didn't add online modes? And because they cut that stupid and uncessary feature, you think they should charge less money for the fruits of their labor?

Pssh.

Ideas like that are what is propagating the downfall of creativity and quality single player in the industry, and I completely despise the very concept, and spit upon it and its homies with great malice and distaste.

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#20 Sir-Marwin105
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Screw that.

Why in the hell should games like Resident Evil 4 cost less than games that have multiplayer?

What, did the devs for RE4 slack off or something because they didn't add online modes? And because they cut that stupid and uncessary feature, you think they should charge less money for the fruits of their labor?

Pssh.

Ideas like that are what is propagating the downfall of creativity and quality single player in the industry, and I completely despise the very concept, and spit upon it and its homies with great malice and distaste.

jethrovegas
RE4 sux.
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#21 xTHExJUICEx
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I would love to see that.....it would make sense.

I would pay extra for MP in my games....Because I mean 8-10 hours of SP w/ no MP....well it's hard for me to shell out $60 on that often. Ony for rare occurences.

MikeE21286

Exactly, it took me 10 hours to beat Uncharted,if I decided to play it againI add what another 6 hours to the game.I bought COD4...online alone Ive put 15 hours, single took me 5....

I dont know it just makes sense to me, and I really hope sale numbers cause developers to really think about this.

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#22 CommanderTy
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that would be cool if all games were $49.99 you know then people like me can afford to buy two games insted of just 1
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#23 jethrovegas
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[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Screw that.

Why in the hell should games like Resident Evil 4 cost less than games that have multiplayer?

What, did the devs for RE4 slack off or something because they didn't add online modes? And because they cut that stupid and uncessary feature, you think they should charge less money for the fruits of their labor?

Pssh.

Ideas like that are what is propagating the downfall of creativity and quality single player in the industry, and I completely despise the very concept, and spit upon it and its homies with great malice and distaste.

Sir-Marwin105

RE4 sux.

*Revs the chainsaw*

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#24 xTHExJUICEx
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Screw that.

Why in the hell should games like Resident Evil 4 cost less than games that have multiplayer?

What, did the devs for RE4 slack off or something because they didn't add online modes? And because they cut that stupid and uncessary feature, you think they should charge less money for the fruits of their labor?

Pssh.

Ideas like that are what is propagating the downfall of creativity and quality single player in the industry, and I completely despise the very concept, and spit upon it and its homies with great malice and distaste.

jethrovegas

Who says a lower cost wont = higher sales numbers = bigger profit?

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#25 XaosII
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Who says a lower cost wont = higher sales numbers = bigger profit?

xTHExJUICEx

Who says it does work? Doesnt WoW have the highest cost to play over time, yet its far more popular than pretty much any other game this generation?

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[QUOTE="dracula_16"]

[QUOTE="Sir-Marwin105"]I honestly don't care.The only thing that I want to be stopped is unnecessary multiplayer. The Darkness would have been even better if they scrapped the multiplayer and added a couple more hours.Sir-Marwin105

This is probably the first time, but I agree with you 100%. The Darkness is a real gem.

Underrated imo.

yeah i liked that game. i was really into the story, i felt so bad when you-know-who got you-know what in the chair by the bad guy.....and you had to stand there and watch!!!! I was yelling at the tv...

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[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Screw that.

Why in the hell should games like Resident Evil 4 cost less than games that have multiplayer?

What, did the devs for RE4 slack off or something because they didn't add online modes? And because they cut that stupid and uncessary feature, you think they should charge less money for the fruits of their labor?

Pssh.

Ideas like that are what is propagating the downfall of creativity and quality single player in the industry, and I completely despise the very concept, and spit upon it and its homies with great malice and distaste.

Sir-Marwin105

RE4 sux.

:o ....you take that back :evil:

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#28 xTHExJUICEx
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[QUOTE="xTHExJUICEx"]

Who says a lower cost wont = higher sales numbers = bigger profit?

XaosII

Who says it does work? Doesnt WoW have the highest cost to play over time, yet its far more popular than pretty much any other game this generation?

Yea but not every game is WoW, of course your gonna get your games that sale well no matter what the price is (MGS) but this should help a lot with new IPs and other games that are under the radar.

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#29 Sir-Marwin105
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[QUOTE="Sir-Marwin105"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Screw that.

Why in the hell should games like Resident Evil 4 cost less than games that have multiplayer?

What, did the devs for RE4 slack off or something because they didn't add online modes? And because they cut that stupid and uncessary feature, you think they should charge less money for the fruits of their labor?

Pssh.

Ideas like that are what is propagating the downfall of creativity and quality single player in the industry, and I completely despise the very concept, and spit upon it and its homies with great malice and distaste.

alcarazo9

RE4 sux.

:o ....you take that back :evil:

*takes back* It is actually awesome.
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#30 jethrovegas
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[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Screw that.

Why in the hell should games like Resident Evil 4 cost less than games that have multiplayer?

What, did the devs for RE4 slack off or something because they didn't add online modes? And because they cut that stupid and uncessary feature, you think they should charge less money for the fruits of their labor?

Pssh.

Ideas like that are what is propagating the downfall of creativity and quality single player in the industry, and I completely despise the very concept, and spit upon it and its homies with great malice and distaste.

xTHExJUICEx

Who says a lower cost wont = higher sales numbers = bigger profit?

Who says it will? And what does that have to do with the matter at hand?

You were proposing the idea that single player games should be 39.99 and single player + multiplayer games should be 59.99.

I was merely stating why I believe that your proposal is a monumentally bad idea.

I mean, yeah, I'd like games to be 20$ cheaper too, but guess what? Developers work hard on their games, and they deserve "teh monies" for their labor.

60$ for games like Bioshock and Mass Effect seems quite reasonable to me.

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#31 mattyomo99
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[QUOTE="dracula_16"]

[QUOTE="Sir-Marwin105"]I honestly don't care.The only thing that I want to be stopped is unnecessary multiplayer. The Darkness would have been even better if they scrapped the multiplayer and added a couple more hours.Sir-Marwin105

This is probably the first time, but I agree with you 100%. The Darkness is a real gem.

Underrated imo.

yea a really solid game, i didnt even touch the multiplayer because it just looked lame

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#32 xTHExJUICEx
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Look back at 2K Sports they started to release new games at 19.99....it helped bring in more people to NFL 2K serieswhich probably would have stuck with Madden if it wasnt for the extremely low price.
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#33 -RPGamer-
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I would rather them just keep charging $60, and stop tacking on some damn lame MP feature to so many games. Games like Assassin's Creed, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Super Mario Galaxy all have wonderful campaigns, b/c they focus on just that.
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#34 xTHExJUICEx
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[QUOTE="xTHExJUICEx"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Screw that.

Why in the hell should games like Resident Evil 4 cost less than games that have multiplayer?

What, did the devs for RE4 slack off or something because they didn't add online modes? And because they cut that stupid and uncessary feature, you think they should charge less money for the fruits of their labor?

Pssh.

Ideas like that are what is propagating the downfall of creativity and quality single player in the industry, and I completely despise the very concept, and spit upon it and its homies with great malice and distaste.

jethrovegas

Who says a lower cost wont = higher sales numbers = bigger profit?

Who says it will? And what does that have to do with the matter at hand?

You were proposing the idea that single player games should be 39.99 and single player + multiplayer games should be 59.99.

I was merely stating why I believe that your proposal is a monumentally bad idea.

I mean, yeah, I'd like games to be 20$ cheaper too, but guess what? Developers work hard on their games, and they deserve "teh monies" for their labor.

60$ for games like Bioshock and Mass Effect seems quite reasonable to me.

It matters because the developers for HS, Uncharted, R&C....arent making "teh monies"....look at the sale figures, theyre pretty subpar for great single player games.

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#35 jethrovegas
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It matters because the developers for HS, Uncharted, R&C....arent making "teh monies"....look at the sale figures, theyre pretty subpar for great single player games.

xTHExJUICEx

They aren't making money because they are PS3 exclusives. :|

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#36 slickchris7777
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I wish games were back to $50 on ps3/360.
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#37 MikeE21286
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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]

I would love to see that.....it would make sense.

I would pay extra for MP in my games....Because I mean 8-10 hours of SP w/ no MP....well it's hard for me to shell out $60 on that often. Ony for rare occurences.

xTHExJUICEx

Exactly, it took me 10 hours to beat Uncharted,if I decided to play it againI add what another 6 hours to the game.I bought COD4...online alone Ive put 15 hours, single took me 5....

I dont know it just makes sense to me, and I really hope sale numbers cause developers to really think about this.

Uncharted was the game I was thinking of also. I played it through the first time.....9 hours, and then I shipped it away on eBay (and I own a bunch of 360 games.....I rarely sell my games anymore) But I'm like....there's no replay value here at all. And almost all 360 games have some multiplayer component

Sorry, didn't mean to bring a console comparison into the thread.....just thinkin' out loud.

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#38 Zenfoldor
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[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Screw that.

Why in the hell should games like Resident Evil 4 cost less than games that have multiplayer?

What, did the devs for RE4 slack off or something because they didn't add online modes? And because they cut that stupid and uncessary feature, you think they should charge less money for the fruits of their labor?

Pssh.

Ideas like that are what is propagating the downfall of creativity and quality single player in the industry, and I completely despise the very concept, and spit upon it and its homies with great malice and distaste.

Sir-Marwin105

RE4 sux.

Discredited much?

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#39 Puckhog04
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Depends on the length of the game. A game like Heavenly Sword which is a phenomenal game but very short (6-8 hours) and no multiplayer should definitely be $40. However, a game like Mass Effect which is 20+ hours on your first run through and it highly encourages a 2nd run through definitely warrants a $60 pricetag IMO.
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#40 Truth_Seekr
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o_o

Multiplayer doesn't MAKE a game.
D:wiretoss

Forgive me for sounding picky/fanboyish but, that's what Wolfenstein Enemy Territory is all about. :P

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#41 laughingman42
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Terrible idea. Devs would either but less money into every single player game essensially screwing over all people who preffer single player games, or throwing in some ****ty multiplayer component to SP games, which will again, take away time and money and worsening the singleplayer experience.
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#42 BTBAM127
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wait.... usualy multiplayer only games are cheaper then $60 so why cant single player only games be? and most of the time you can get more value out of a online game then offline only.
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#43 azshorty2003
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i concur. i buy games for the single player experience, multiplayer is a bonus to me. why should i pay full price if the developer is gonna screw me out of content because they only focused on multiplayer and made a very short or nonexistent single player game.ie. halo &cod4
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#44 NathanDrake
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I propose.....ALL games for 39.99 and let that be the end of it!:)
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#45 mistervengeance
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i agree, games like uncharted, heavenly sword, etc. should really get docked on the price because they're too short for 60 bucks.
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Consumers have the discretion to force changes. Don't buy short games, rent them.

If companies wish to turn a profit, force them togive us value for money by not buying games with a short SP, no or weak MP and limited replayability.

Remember just because a game looks pretty doesn't mean its worthwhile owning.

Fairplay to Sony fans who are obviously a bit reluctant to part with their money for some of the exclusives which aren't worth the money. I know they come in for some stick for not buying games, but why should they pay $60 for a 6 hr game? Rent it, if you know you'll be playing it a couple of months from now, buy it.

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#47 garey017
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It's all about QUALITY. Not all games are created equal, so they shouldn't be sold at the same price. Better products should bring in more money, regardless if it's single or multiplayer. If they set all games at the same price, everyone loses. The crappy games nobody will buy, because they can get a good game at the same price. And the good games won't bring in as much money as they could & the developers won't get what the deserve. It's why communism doesn't work...
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#48 _MysTesO_
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[QUOTE="_MysTesO_"]

I sort of agree with you.

NOT!!! Just kidding.

I think Multi-Plats = $30.00

Exclusives = $40.00

ArisShadows

Actually wouldn't it be the other way around? Multiplats aren't special, they are placed on multiple systems. Its the sole system exclusives that are worth more.

Oops my bad thats what I meant to post

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#49 MrSickVisionz
Member since 2004 • 798 Posts

I think $49.99 is a fair price. Its less than $50 and psychologically its easier, for me at least, to spend $50 easier than spending over $50. Not just that, but i'd rate alot of games higher if they cost me less. When you pay $60 for a game thats only "ok"... that game is garbage. That game is crap. If you payed $39.99 or $49.99, that game is straight, aight, ok, not bad.

I think there should be more strategic pricing as well. Some games are just smaller or are somewhat risky titles or niche titles. Something like that should debut at a price closer to $39.99 or $49.99. Like Eternal Sonata on the 360, a JRPG on a system thats not known for JRPGs. To test the market, I think they should have launched at a lower price. I think they would have had way higher sales if it cost less. There are alot of games that are AA or A that I think would sell way more if they were maybe $10 less.

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#50 naval
Member since 2003 • 11108 Posts
For me SP as much as important MP even more. i generally stick to 2-3 MP games at a time, but I play a lot more SP games