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#1 shaggymcp
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....... Rockstar comments on how exactly they are going to change the combat system in the game.... while previous GTA titles were fine back in the day on PS2... todays standards have changed, and that lame lock on system has to GO !. I watched the video today, and while it looked all fine and dandy, still no actual gameplay from the characters perspective to give us any kind of an idea, of what the combat system has in store for us.

I personaly am expecting somthing equal to saints row, or better, or as far as I am concerned they can keep GTA4, and I say bring on SR2 !

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#2 ArisShadows
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Something like Saints Row.

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Hand to hand combat has never been GTA's thing so I don't really care, I'm still getting it.
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#4 Overthrow
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Lock... on? Oh right, you console sheep have been wasting your money on sub-par versions of GTA for years. I guess you would need lock on, what with lousy gamepad controls.

I guess this topic is rather irrelevant to me.

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#5 lucas_kelly
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It would be good if it was moere like Saints Row.
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#6 MorisUkunRasik
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GTA 3, VC, SA > Saints Row
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#7 MorisUkunRasik
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Hand to hand combat has never been GTA's thing so I don't really care, I'm still getting it.slothboyadvance

lock on with guns should go

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#8 Bansheesdie
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Rockstar did say they were upgrading their lock-on system.
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#9 ArisShadows
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GTA 3, VC, SA > Saints RowMorisUkunRasik

How so? Abise the lack of continueing after the story is over, Saint Row was a fine game. I took alot off GTA and also contribulated alot.

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[QUOTE="slothboyadvance"]Hand to hand combat has never been GTA's thing so I don't really care, I'm still getting it.MorisUkunRasik

lock on with guns should go

Oh... I thought we were talking about hand to hand combat... I feel stupid. :(

But yeah, it should be more like Saints Row in the gun handling department.

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Lock... on? Oh right, you console sheep have been wasting your money on sub-par versions of GTA for years. I guess you would need lock on, what with lousy gamepad controls.

I guess this topic is rather irrelevant to me.

Overthrow

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What are you a hermit hating on consoles or a sheep hating on GTA4 cause you dont' get it ? either way, go away troll.

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#12 MorisUkunRasik
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[QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"]GTA 3, VC, SA > Saints RowArisShadows

How so? Abise the lack of continueing after the story is over, Saint Row was a fine game. I took alot off GTA and also contribulated alot.

IMO i had more fun with GTA I should actually take SA off though i played through most and then it lost my interest

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#13 shaggymcp
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[QUOTE="ArisShadows"]

[QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"]GTA 3, VC, SA > Saints RowMorisUkunRasik

How so? Abise the lack of continueing after the story is over, Saint Row was a fine game. I took alot off GTA and also contribulated alot.

IMO i had more fun with GTA I should actually take SA off though i played through most and then it lost my interest

I had to force myself to finish GTA SA... I though the story was down right dumb, and yes I do play GTA games for both random acts of "fun" and for the story's. Vice city by far had the best characters, character voices, and story out of all the GTA's, and Saints Row.

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#15 ArisShadows
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[QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"][QUOTE="ArisShadows"]

[QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"]GTA 3, VC, SA > Saints Rowshaggymcp

How so? Abise the lack of continueing after the story is over, Saint Row was a fine game. I took alot off GTA and also contribulated alot.

IMO i had more fun with GTA I should actually take SA off though i played through most and then it lost my interest

I had to force myself to finish GTA SA... I though the story was down right dumb, and yes I do play GTA games for both random acts of "fun" and for the story's. Vice city by far had the best characters, character voices, and story out of all the GTA's, and Saints Row.

I actually liked the characters in Saints Row quite well. I think that was a turning interest in purchasing an used copy of it.

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The think that owned about saints row was NO AUTO AIM. That killed GTA for me, after playing saints row. All they need is a damned crosshair, autoaim is crap.
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#17 Overthrow
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[QUOTE="Overthrow"]

Lock... on? Oh right, you console sheep have been wasting your money on sub-par versions of GTA for years. I guess you would need lock on, what with lousy gamepad controls.

I guess this topic is rather irrelevant to me.

shaggymcp

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What are you a hermit hating on consoles or a sheep hating on GTA4 cause you dont' get it ? either way, go away troll.

No, I'm just poking fun at arguments over auto-aim, and how gamepad force it on you. I've always though GTA on consoles was lackluster, and it looks like GTA4 is continuing the trend.

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The think that owned about saints row was NO AUTO AIM. That killed GTA for me, after playing saints row. All they need is a damned crosshair, autoaim is crap.dracolich666

GTA IV doesn't even have a HUD, it is extremely unlikely there will be crosshairs.

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#19 ArisShadows
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[QUOTE="shaggymcp"][QUOTE="Overthrow"]

Lock... on? Oh right, you console sheep have been wasting your money on sub-par versions of GTA for years. I guess you would need lock on, what with lousy gamepad controls.

I guess this topic is rather irrelevant to me.

Overthrow

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What are you a hermit hating on consoles or a sheep hating on GTA4 cause you dont' get it ? either way, go away troll.

No, I'm just poking fun at arguments over auto-aim, and how gamepad force it on you. I've always though GTA on consoles was lackluster, and it looks like GTA4 is continuing the trend.

Rockstar could very well take it off, its not forced because beinga console version.

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#20 Overthrow
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[QUOTE="Overthrow"][QUOTE="shaggymcp"][QUOTE="Overthrow"]

Lock... on? Oh right, you console sheep have been wasting your money on sub-par versions of GTA for years. I guess you would need lock on, what with lousy gamepad controls.

I guess this topic is rather irrelevant to me.

ArisShadows

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What are you a hermit hating on consoles or a sheep hating on GTA4 cause you dont' get it ? either way, go away troll.

No, I'm just poking fun at arguments over auto-aim, and how gamepad force it on you. I've always though GTA on consoles was lackluster, and it looks like GTA4 is continuing the trend.

Rockstar could very well take it off, its not forced because beinga console version.

Absolutely. But overall, auto-aim or not, I'm amazed at how they keep the series fresh every time. I thought San Andreas was a rehash with a lame ghetto twist, and refused to play it until someone convinced me. Couldn't stop. It was awesome.

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[QUOTE="dracolich666"]The think that owned about saints row was NO AUTO AIM. That killed GTA for me, after playing saints row. All they need is a damned crosshair, autoaim is crap.Bansheesdie

GTA IV doesn't even have a HUD, what makes you think there will be a crosshair?

I could care less about a hud, i want a crosshair like saintsrow, autoaim is too easy and annoying.

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#22 Bansheesdie
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I could care less about a hud, i want a crosshair like saintsrow, autoaim is too easy and annoying.dracolich666

GTA will just, I would think, have an upgraded version of the lock-onsystemthat has been in previous GTA games.

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#23 Overthrow
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[QUOTE="Bansheesdie"]

[QUOTE="dracolich666"]The think that owned about saints row was NO AUTO AIM. That killed GTA for me, after playing saints row. All they need is a damned crosshair, autoaim is crap.dracolich666

GTA IV doesn't even have a HUD, what makes you think there will be a crosshair?

I could care less about a hud, i want a crosshair like saintsrow, autoaim is too easy and annoying.

For the last time, it's "I couldn't care less." This implies that you care as little as possible, so much that you cannot care any less. "I could care less" means you are able to care less, which tells us nothing of how much you care. If anything, you might care a whole lot.

Anyway, I would find a crosshair annoying in GTA. I like the current format where it only shows up when you "aim."

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#25 majadamus
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The combat system is crap, I forget about that every time I buy a GTA game. Hmm..I might rethink buying another GTA game.
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#26 ragincoley86
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GTA 3, VC, SA > Saints RowMorisUkunRasik

SR aim system>GTA aim system

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#27 mattyomo99
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as long as i can kill hookers, and run people over with a semi. dosnt matter to me

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#28 floridaskater05
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i hope the citizens have ragdoll.. i loved plowing through them in saints row.or hitting some poor moron who dont wear their seatbelt,and watch them burst through the winshield
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#29 dancingdudesean
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The shooting system for San Andreas was borrowed from Manhunt, I think we can expect a hand to hand combat system borrowed from The Warriors and/or Bully.
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#30 imprezawrx500
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well I can say gta's combat is getting lame. I have play gta liberty city stories on psp and a bit of vice city stories and the lame combat is getting boring, but the pc version of all gtas support manual aim with k/m but has lockon when you use gamepad, so I would think they could easily remove the lockon system, its old and tired.
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#31 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="slothboyadvance"]Hand to hand combat has never been GTA's thing so I don't really care, I'm still getting it.MorisUkunRasik

lock on with guns should go

so true, I'll have to go and play gtasa on pc with no lock on

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#32 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"]

[QUOTE="slothboyadvance"]Hand to hand combat has never been GTA's thing so I don't really care, I'm still getting it.slothboyadvance

lock on with guns should go

Oh... I thought we were talking about hand to hand combat... I feel stupid. :(

But yeah, it should be more like Saints Row in the gun handling department.

although many people here will probably deny it since everyone here hates ea, the godfather has a way better combat system than gta. you have many fighting moves you can perform to take a enimy out, no breacking necks in gta.

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#33 CassiusGaius
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Saints Row did two HUGE things right, manual aiming and havoc physics. I really hope GTA4 atleast adopts one. I'm pretty sure though the physics in GTA4 will be lame as hell.
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#34 gesi1223
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I want them to make it like The Sims' combat system.