I see now why MS didn't want FFXIV on the 360.

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#1 i5750at4Ghz
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Someone at MS must have played the game. FFXIV is so horrible. SE completely fell on there face while making this game. Won't compete once the big boys(Guild wars 2, SWToR, and WoW cataclysm) hot store shelves.

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#2 Lto_thaG
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I think you are completely right.Good business move,MS.

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#3 Gue1
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More games = better no matter what there will be always someone that wants to play it. It is not like they will force you to buy it or anything...

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#4 milsvaard
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Guild Wars2 for me please. But console players can't play those games so it's FFXIV ftw.

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#5 Sollet
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FF14 is targeted to to those people that are still playing FF11 or used to play it... Sure it's not as big as WoW but at it's peak it had a couple of million of subscribers.
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#6 markinthedark
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More games = better no matter what there will be always someone that wants to play it. It is not like they will force you to buy it or anything...

Gue1

While i agree.

according to kinect/move haters, more choices = bad.

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#7 Raymundo_Manuel
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Well, it is a creation of SE, so no surprise.

Though I think what'll actually kill this game (on PC at least), is that the recommended specs are a Core i7, a GTX 460, and 4gb of ram.

....

......

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And that's to run it smoothly 1280x720

My friend thinks it'll become popular, and overshadow WoW, and all I know is that 99.9% of PC gamers don't have a Core i7, and a GTX 460, so I told him good luck with that.

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#8 Silverbond
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More games = better no matter what there will be always someone that wants to play it. It is not like they will force you to buy it or anything...

Gue1

I'm fairly sure that if a system only had games like Superman 64 and Big Rigs, that would be bad.

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#9 Keiji993
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Your opinion doesnt = the world.

Its always good to have choices than none at all.

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#10 davidkamayor
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Well, it is a creation of SE, so no surprise.

Though I think what'll actually kill this game (on PC at least), is that the recommended specs are a Core i7, a GTX 460, and 4gb of ram.

....

......

..

And that's to run it smoothly 1280x720

My friend thinks it'll become popular, and overshadow WoW, and all I know is that 99.9% of PC gamers don't have a Core i7, and a GTX 460, so I told him good luck with that.

Raymundo_Manuel

bu bu but..

Its on the PS3 (probably runs like crap there too)

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#11 Raymundo_Manuel
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[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

Well, it is a creation of SE, so no surprise.

Though I think what'll actually kill this game (on PC at least), is that the recommended specs are a Core i7, a GTX 460, and 4gb of ram.

....

......

..

And that's to run it smoothly 1280x720

My friend thinks it'll become popular, and overshadow WoW, and all I know is that 99.9% of PC gamers don't have a Core i7, and a GTX 460, so I told him good luck with that.

davidkamayor

bu bu but..

Its on the PS3 (probably runs like crap there too)

Well, the PS3 has teh cell which is a super computer that can evolve.

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#12 Silverbond
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Your opinion doesnt = the world.

Its always good to have choices than none at all.

Keiji993

I wouldn't want the choice to play a bad game... >_>

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#13 ronvalencia
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Well, it is a creation of SE, so no surprise.

Though I think what'll actually kill this game (on PC at least), is that the recommended specs are a Core i7, a GTX 460, and 4gb of ram.

....

......

..

And that's to run it smoothly 1280x720

My friend thinks it'll become popular, and overshadow WoW, and all I know is that 99.9% of PC gamers don't have a Core i7, and a GTX 460, so I told him good luck with that.

Raymundo_Manuel

At 1280x720, FFXIV runs smooth on my AMD Mobility Radeon HD 5730 (on the desktop, it's known as AMD Radeon HD 5570).

FFXIV not friendly on older mid-range NVIDIA GPUs i.e. runs slow on NVIDIA Geforce GT335M (72 CUDA processors).

From http://www.ffxivcore.com/wiki/Graphics_Card_Matrix

Graphics Cards (Minimum+)

Tier 6: 8800 Ultra, 9800 GTX, 9800 GTX+, GTS 250 HD 3870 X2, HD 4850, HD 5750, Mobility HD 4850, Mobility HD 5850
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Tier 7: 8800 GTX, 8800 GTS 512MB, Go GTX 280M, Go GTX M285 HD 4770, Mobility HD 4860
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Tier 8: 8800 GT 512 MB, 9800 GT, Go 9800M GTX, Go GTX 260M (112), Go GTS 360M (GDDR5), HD 4830, HD HD 5670, Mobility HD 5770 (GDDR5), Mobility HD 5750 (GDDR5)
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Tier 9: 8800 GTS 640 MB, 9600 GT, GT 240 (GDDR5), Go 9800M GTS, Go GTX 160M, HD 2900 XT, HD 3870, HD 5570 (GDDR5)
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Tier 10: 8800 GS, 9600 GSO, GT 240 (DDR3), Go GTX 260M (96), Go GTS 150M, Go GTS 360M (DDR3), HD 3850 512 MB, HD
4670, HD 5570 (DDR3), Mobility HD 3870, Mobility HD 5730 (GDDR3), Mobility HD 5650
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Tier 11: 8800 GT 256 MB, 8800 GTS 320 MB, GT 220, Go 8800M HD 2900 PRO, HD 3850 256 MB, 5550 (GDDR5), Mobility HD 3850

PS; Geforce GTS 360M (DDR3) has 96 CUDA processors. Geforce GTX 260M (96) looks to have 96 CUDA processors.

I don't think Final Fantasy 14 is using bandwidth saving DX11 BC6H and BC7 texture compression formats.

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#14 davidkamayor
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[QUOTE="davidkamayor"]

[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

Well, it is a creation of SE, so no surprise.

Though I think what'll actually kill this game (on PC at least), is that the recommended specs are a Core i7, a GTX 460, and 4gb of ram.

....

......

..

And that's to run it smoothly 1280x720

My friend thinks it'll become popular, and overshadow WoW, and all I know is that 99.9% of PC gamers don't have a Core i7, and a GTX 460, so I told him good luck with that.

Raymundo_Manuel

bu bu but..

Its on the PS3 (probably runs like crap there too)

Well, the PS3 has teh cell which is a super computer that can evolve.

U knowiit can grow MOAR cells

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#15 Keiji993
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[QUOTE="Keiji993"]

Your opinion doesnt = the world.

Its always good to have choices than none at all.

Silverbond

I wouldn't want the choice to play a bad game... >_>

Different taste different audiences.

People may think Dynasty Warriors/Samurai Warriors are bad games but i grown up playing it alot along with tekken/GT etc and i enjoy playing it.

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#16 Mystic-G
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Someone at MS must have played the game. FFXIV is so horrible. SE completely fell on there face while making this game. Won't compete once the big boys(Guild wars 2, SWToR, and WoW cataclysm) hot store shelves.

i5750at4Ghz
Or because MS doesn't wanna throw money at a game that they know won't work on their platform. I would imagine not many would be willing to pay monthly subscriptions on XBL.
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#17 Shewgenja
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LOL, I was waiting for a thread like this. Good show!

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#18 XenogearsMaster
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Someone at MS must have played the game. FFXIV is so horrible. SE completely fell on there face while making this game. Won't compete once the big boys(Guild wars 2, SWToR, and WoW cataclysm) hot store shelves.

i5750at4Ghz
Can you at least explain why the game is crap?
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#19 Squall18
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More games = better no matter what there will be always someone that wants to play it. It is not like they will force you to buy it or anything...

Gue1

I disagree

The Wii's image took a major hit because of this back in the past few years. Now, even though it has an awesome schedule, it's growing on hardcore gamers

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#20 Warriorboy1990
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Well, it is a creation of SE, so no surprise.

Though I think what'll actually kill this game (on PC at least), is that the recommended specs are a Core i7, a GTX 460, and 4gb of ram.

....

......

..

And that's to run it smoothly 1280x720

My friend thinks it'll become popular, and overshadow WoW, and all I know is that 99.9% of PC gamers don't have a Core i7, and a GTX 460, so I told him good luck with that.

Raymundo_Manuel
Yes, then Microsoft made a bad move to get Final Fantasy XIII too.
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#21 XboximusPrime
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lol, why are you acting like it was MS's choice wether or not it came out on their console to begin with? I think SE didnt want to do it because how tight locked Live is.

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#22 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

[QUOTE="davidkamayor"]

[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

Well, it is a creation of SE, so no surprise.

Though I think what'll actually kill this game (on PC at least), is that the recommended specs are a Core i7, a GTX 460, and 4gb of ram.

....

......

..

And that's to run it smoothly 1280x720

My friend thinks it'll become popular, and overshadow WoW, and all I know is that 99.9% of PC gamers don't have a Core i7, and a GTX 460, so I told him good luck with that.

bu bu but..

Its on the PS3 (probably runs like crap there too)

Well, the PS3 has teh cell which is a super computer that can evolve.

PS3's runtime datasets would be limited to less than 512 MB.
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#23 djsifer01
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I dont, why not add another game to the library? There are several games on all platforms so bad they should not of been released.
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#24 Nyuuuu
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Expect the PS3 version to look like

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#25 Pug-Nasty
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While I have no doubts the game is bad, I doubt MS didn't want the game because of that. They've had plenty of bad games, even some of their exclusives were bad. Bad sometimes means niche also.

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#26 XboximusPrime
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Expect the PS3 version to look like

Nyuuuu

Look a little like Valkryia Chronicles. Atleast the art does

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#27 Shewgenja
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Expect the PS3 version to look like

Nyuuuu

Will quote for future ownage. Maybe even make a sig.

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#28 Renzokucant
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Someone at MS must have played the game. FFXIV is so horrible. SE completely fell on there face while making this game. Won't compete once the big boys(Guild wars 2, SWToR, and WoW cataclysm) hot store shelves.

i5750at4Ghz
wow, well that settles it, game sux i5750at4Ghz said so, time to go home everyone
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#29 kussese
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[QUOTE="Nyuuuu"]

Expect the PS3 version to look like

XboximusPrime

Look a little like Valkryia Chronicles. Atleast the art does

That's FFXI and...I don't think that looks remotely like Valkyria Chronicles. Maybe it's just because I've played it so much but...eh o.o Anyways TC, how do you know it's going to suck? Have you played the final version? No? Then quit judging it.

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#30 i5750at4Ghz
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]

Someone at MS must have played the game. FFXIV is so horrible. SE completely fell on there face while making this game. Won't compete once the big boys(Guild wars 2, SWToR, and WoW cataclysm) hot store shelves.

XenogearsMaster
Can you at least explain why the game is crap?

1. UI designed around a controller in mind. 2. Software mouse only that lags like a SOB. 3. Game performance even on a good rig is choppy(Maybe because of beta, but the game does come out in 2 weeks) 4. Crafting is completely bogus, you have to try it to understand what I mean. Will take you days before you can even make anything remotely useful. 5. No Auction House instead you get a system of peer to peer trade without any type of search option. 6. Guildleve cooldown. Pretty much you can do 8 quests a day once you do those quests you can't do anymore for 48 hours. 7. Surplus, if you play one class too much you character will being to get less and less exp per kill. which can get all the way down to zero. 8. Mob placement makes no sense. You'll have a mob you can kill in 1 hit right next to a mob that kills you in 1 hit. 9. No way to tell if the mob your facing will kick your ass or not. The use a color system but a green mob in the same family as a blue mob you just killed can kick your ass. 10. If you're a caster MP doesn't regen. 11. But the biggest for me is lack of user friendliness. It takes far too long to figure out the most simple things in the game.
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#31 i5750at4Ghz
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FF14 is targeted to to those people that are still playing FF11 or used to play it... Sure it's not as big as WoW but at it's peak it had a couple of million of subscribers.Sollet
You would think this. But I played and loved 11. 14 takes almost nothing 11 did right, but everything it did wrong only it adds a myriad of it's own issues on top.
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#32 cametall
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Is Guild Wars REALLY one of the big boys?
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#33 v13_KiiLtz
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I'm pretty sure SE decided not to make FFXIV for the 360 because of Live's "closed environment". It was in my Game Informer magazine.
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#34 i5750at4Ghz
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Is Guild Wars REALLY one of the big boys? cametall
Guild wars has a huge user base. One look at the guild wars 2 dev docs and it's hard not to get excited for the game if you're at all into mmos.
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#35 Raymundo_Manuel
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Is Guild Wars REALLY one of the big boys? cametall

The first one sold 5-6 million in a year and a half or so. Then it kinda died off as far as I remember. Never heard of any other sales numbers.

I'm sure if they fix a lot of whatever was wrong in the first one that they could have another 6+ million seller. I don't think any retail MMO has pulled numbers like that since WoW launched in 2004, so it was quite impressive.

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#36 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="cametall"]Is Guild Wars REALLY one of the big boys? i5750at4Ghz
Guild wars has a huge user base. One look at the guild wars 2 dev docs and it's hard not to get excited for the game if you're at all into mmos.

is GW2 going to be a actual MMORPG this time or no?
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and instally 4+ dvds into hard drive
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#40 Diviniuz
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Someone at MS must have played the game. FFXIV is so horrible. SE completely fell on there face while making this game. Won't compete once the big boys(Guild wars 2, SWToR, and WoW cataclysm) hot store shelves.

i5750at4Ghz
Which is why microsoft lets worst games come to their console? I really doubt your reason is the reason
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[QUOTE="Diviniuz"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] It was bef
[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="cametall"]Is Guild Wars REALLY one of the big boys? lawlessx
Guild wars has a huge user base. One look at the guild wars 2 dev docs and it's hard not to get excited for the game if you're at all into mmos.

is GW2 going to be a actual MMORPG this time or no?

It has always been an actual MMO.
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#42 omho88
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Someone at MS must have played the game. FFXIV is so horrible. SE completely fell on there face while making this game. Won't compete once the big boys(Guild wars 2, SWToR, and WoW cataclysm) hot store shelves.

i5750at4Ghz
lol, MS has only forza and Halo as good franchises, i dun think we need to listen to its opinions in games.
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#43 tagyhag
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The Fatigue system destroys any reason to play this game. :P
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#44 93soccer
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]

Someone at MS must have played the game. FFXIV is so horrible. SE completely fell on there face while making this game. Won't compete once the big boys(Guild wars 2, SWToR, and WoW cataclysm) hot store shelves.

Mystic-G
Or because MS doesn't wanna throw money at a game that they know won't work on their platform. I would imagine not many would be willing to pay monthly subscriptions on XBL.

You don't need to pay for Xbox Live Gold to play MMO kinda games. You can have silver and just pay for MMO
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#45 Iantheone
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Lol nice one TC