I think a lot of sheep don't realise the graphical gap between Wii and PS3 / 360

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#1 Timstuff
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Sure, everyone knows that Wii does not play games in HD. However, I am constantly reading comments from Sheep that imply that HD is the ONLY noticeable difference between Wii and the next gen powerhouses, and this annoys me to no end. Wii games, even in standard definition, look no-where near as impressive as Xbox 360 and PS3. The graphical jump between Wii and the other systems goes way beyond just 480i to 720p / 1080p. The lighting, textures, polygon counts, and so on are way more advanced when you have a powerful system, even if you're viewing in standard definition. In fact, HD may very well be one of the less noticeable improvements you'll see between a last gen game and a next gen game.

As I said, the difference between Wii and PS3 / Xbox 360 is way more than just an increase in resolution. It's an increase in EVERYTHING, and you don't need a 60" 1080p LCD screen to see it. So please, do not act like the only difference between Wii and the other systems is that Wii can't output in HD.

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#2 Nickman71
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REALLY?!
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#3 iunderstand
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I never saw anyone say that?
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#4 Zerostatic0
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I disagree. I think that the vast majority of posters on Gamespot, Nintendo fans included, know that there is a big difference from a graphical standpoint.
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#5 Izuki_Ghost
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Isn't it also possible that they just don't care about the difference?
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#6 Redmoonxl2
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I think the sheep have been aware of the graphical gap since day one, they just don't care.
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#7 Bread_or_Decide
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The Wii could be 16 bit and sheep would defend its graphics.

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#8 norfair_dweller
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Please show me a link to where that is said, because I have never seen anybody say HD is the only difference.
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Bu... sales!
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Sure, everyone knows that Wii does not play games in HD. However, I am constantly reading comments from Sheep that imply that HD is the ONLY noticeable difference between Wii and the next gen powerhouses, and this annoys me to no end. Wii games, even in standard definition, look no-where near as impressive as Xbox 360 and PS3. The graphical jump between Wii and the other systems goes way beyond just 480i to 720p / 1080p. The lighting, textures, polygon counts, and so on are way more advanced when you have a powerful system, even if you're viewing in standard definition. In fact, HD may very well be one of the less noticeable improvements you'll see between a last gen game and a next gen game.

As I said, the difference between Wii and PS3 / Xbox 360 is way more than just an increase in resolution. It's an increase in EVERYTHING, and you don't need a 60" 1080p LCD screen to see it. So please, do not act like the only difference between Wii and the other systems is that Wii can't output in HD.

Timstuff

Dude, true that.

Even at SD my 360 and PS3 look way better than anything on the Wii. Textures, models, etc, all of that.

Artstyle can only carry you so far as well.

Hell 8 bit graphics are cool... in a kitschy nostalgic sort of way. I don't want sprite based characters to become the norm again, just because Nintendo stresses gameplay over graphics. As a matter of fact, does Nintendo even make games anymore?*

* The sentence mentioned above was sarcasm. I know someone will quote me on that "OMG MARIO GALAXY LOLZ!!!!" or something to that effect. Again, that was sarcasm, aight?

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#11 wklzip
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The Wii could be 16 bit and sheep would defend its graphics.

Bread_or_Decide

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#12 Zerostatic0
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The Wii could be 16 bit and sheep would defend its graphics.Bread_or_Decide

Why are you obssessed with the Wii? I don't get how someone could dislike something and then talk about it so much? Wouldn't you rather discuss systems you like and games you like?

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#13 iunderstand
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

The Wii could be 16 bit and sheep would defend its graphics.Zerostatic0

Why are you obssessed with the Wii? I don't get how someone could dislike something and then talk about it so much? Wouldn't you rather discuss systems you like and games you like?

Then you would know which company he works for! :lol:

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#14 Hoffgod
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Oh, I'm perfectly well aware of the graphical gap between the Wii and 360. I have both of them hooked up to the same SDTV. There's asignificant difference between the best Wii games and the best 360 games.

Your mistake is assuming I care.

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#15 KirbyFan10101
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If Nintendo had released a console with incredible graphics sheep would be all over it also.

These people defend brands, not products.

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#16 da1on2
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I never saw anyone say that?iunderstand
Only a little before launch, when websites where aaying PS3 looks like garbage in SD, but hthat comparison was to the PS3 in HD and not with other consoles.
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#17 marioraider
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Some do, some don't. I'm sort of a sheep, and the Wii games look worse than 360/PS3 games. That's a fact. But here's the thing, I still play those games :o. Yes, shocking I know.

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Slow day, eh?
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#19 _en1gma_
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I'm pretty sure the sheep know that the Wii's hardware is a joke.
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#20 Firelore29
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I realize the difference. I simply don't care.

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In other news, the world is round, there are seven continents, the moon is in space, black is the inclusion of all colors and Paulie Shore's career is as dead Lindsey Lohan after a drinking party at a Hollywood shin-dig.
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#22 Bread_or_Decide
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I realize the difference. I simply don't care.

Firelore29

Gotta love this one. Classic sheep response.

Of course they'd care if they had it lol.

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#23 Lazy_Boy88
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Yeah the gap is shall we say... generational? Wii is last gen hardware, period. I wouldn't care at all and would own one myself if it were actually price accordingly.... $150 tops. $250 for what amounts to Gamecube hardware is frankly insulting.
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In other news, the world is round, there are seven continents, the moon is in space, black is the inclusion of all colors and Paulie Shore's career is as dead Lindsey Lohan after a drinking party at a Hollywood shin-dig.Redmoonxl2

NO NO THIS CAN'T BE TRUE! :cry:

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#25 Redmoonxl2
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[QUOTE="Firelore29"]

I realize the difference. I simply don't care.

Bread_or_Decide

Gotta love this one. Classic sheep response.

Of course they'd care if they had it lol.

This is a pretty stupid comment to tell you the truth.

If they cared, and I mean truly cared, why would they have a Wii in the first place? There's nothing stopping them from trading it in for a 360 or a PS3 outside of cost that is.

Maybe I'm just thinking too logically.

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#26 deactivated-5967f36c08c33
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The Wii could be 16 bit and sheep would defend its graphics.Bread_or_Decide

So would any other fanboy with their respective console.:wink:

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#27 Izuki_Ghost
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Maybe I'm just thinking too logically.

This is system wars: unless things have changed alot since I was last here logic is for the week.

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The Wii could be 16 bit and sheep would defend its graphics.

Bread_or_Decide

Why would someone care...Where there not great games that came out during the 16 bit time frame? I say that well playing Space Quest at the same time.

It not that Nintendo fans defend graphics it just they don't care about graphics....Graphics don't make a game

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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

The Wii could be 16 bit and sheep would defend its graphics.

HarlockJC

Why would someone care...Where there not great games that came out during the 16 bit time frame? I say that well playing Space Quest at the same time.

It not that Nintendo fans defend graphics it just they don't care about graphics....Graphics don't make a game

No I mean release a brand new console in 2006 with 16 bit graphics and charging 250 for it.

Well technically games are made up of graphics. They certainly aint made of puppy dogs and sunshine. Some of the best games wouldn't be possible without the upgrade in graphics we get every generation. Super Mario World not possible on the NES, etc etc etc.

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#30 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

The Wii could be 16 bit and sheep would defend its graphics.

Bread_or_Decide

Why would someone care...Where there not great games that came out during the 16 bit time frame? I say that well playing Space Quest at the same time.

It not that Nintendo fans defend graphics it just they don't care about graphics....Graphics don't make a game

No I mean release a brand new console in 2006 with 16 bit graphics and charging 250 for it.

Well technically games are made up of graphics. They certainly aint made of puppy dogs and sunshine. Some of the best games wouldn't be possible without the upgrade in graphics we get every generation. Super Mario World not possible on the NES, etc etc etc.

You get what you pay for I bought a GC that had Blue Tooth, online, Wii channels, hard drive "kinda", WiiSports and able to download VC games. That not really a bad deal for $250, I would love a PS3 but with 2 kids I can't just go out and spend $500 on a game system.

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#31 SonicBalla
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I don't care as long as the gameplay is fun.I mean look at all the Snes games all fun but graphically it sucks compared to this generation but I still play it.
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#32 JustE32007
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wii looks bad compared to even most PS2 games....
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#33 coreygames
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The Wii could be 16 bit and sheep would defend its graphics.

Bread_or_Decide
The Wii cold be 1080i+ and you would still hate it. I know the difference in the graphics, I just don't think it matters much unless a game is taking a stylistic approach and would NEED that extra bundle of polygons.
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Okay I don't know who Sheep is, unless it's a metaphor for consumers and gamers, but I don't think may people dissagree about the difference. Anyone who does is a lier and in denial. This coming from a DIE HARD NINTENDO AND WII FAN.

However the real problem is that the Wii CAN output graphics that significantly dwindel that gap and that look nothing less than stellar. Even in comparison. Look at MEtroid and Galaxy for that proof.

Now we just need ALL DEVELOPERS to stop being lazy and realize how powerful the Wii really is. Thank god for RE:Umbrella Chronicles and Final Fantasy: CC. They both look amazing.

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#35 Darth-Samus
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Oh and I'm sorry, not to be a "cliched hater", But the PS3 could not be more of a waste of money. This is not a fanboy talking, this is damn near fact.

Look at the library: Genji (crap), Gundam (uber crap), Resistence (decent and fun), and Full auto 2 (meh). Can anyone else name another title that's already released that is only available on the PS3 and will STAY that way? I'm pretty sure there's nothing and Full Auto 2 is on the PSP of all things. I was just trying to "help" Sony's cause.

The fact is is that next to these FOUR (4!) titles, EVERY SINGLE GAME ON THE PS3 EXISTS OR WILL SOON EXIST ON OTHER CONSOLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My god man for more money thatn the other two consoles how can this thing exist? Out of principle it's offensive!

And Say the words "Blu-Ray" and I'll hunt you down lol. NEVER will that be an excuse for this madness.

And for what it's worth I really do wish this weren't true. It'd be nice if Sony wasn't wasting gamers' time. I'd like to enjoy the PS3.....

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#36 Silenthps
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how can you guys even judge the graphical gap if so far, no company has even taken the wii's graphics seriously? if you compare this... http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21802.html to the average 360 game, the graphical leap isn't as huge as most cows/lemms would have you believe
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#37 frankeyser
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hmm i have a52 inch sony bravia 1080p tv.. with my wii ps3 and 360 hooked up to it... i can see the difference.... but who cares i have just as much fun playing wii games as i do 360 and ps3 games. take tramau center for example. that game has ds graphics. but once i am playing it i am so into the game i could care less what it looked like. the graphics get the job done. just like when i am playing gears of war or resistance. i don't stop playing in the middle of a multiplayer match and go, jee willikers this is a gorgeous game... no i play it and have fun. graphics dont make a game man. the game and how fun it is makes the game.
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#38 HuhJustaBox
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Stop with these stupid comparisons. You cannot compare the Wii to the PS3/360.

I explain why in my thread, so go there if you wish to discuss, as I won't repost it all again.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25787671

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[QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"]In other news, the world is round, there are seven continents, the moon is in space, black is the inclusion of all colors and Paulie Shore's career is as dead Lindsey Lohan after a drinking party at a Hollywood shin-dig.marioraider

NO NO THIS CAN'T BE TRUE! :cry:

NA-OOOOOOOOOOOOO :cry:......................buddy

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#40 elektrixxx
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I don't care.
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#41 m_machine024
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Many sheep were only like that before the first wii games were revealed at E3. They were like "you won't notice the difference on SDTVs" etc... lol good old revolution days.

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Sure, everyone knows that Wii does not play games in HD. However, I am constantly reading comments from Sheep that imply that HD is the ONLY noticeable difference between Wii and the next gen powerhouses, and this annoys me to no end. Wii games, even in standard definition, look no-where near as impressive as Xbox 360 and PS3. The graphical jump between Wii and the other systems goes way beyond just 480i to 720p / 1080p. The lighting, textures, polygon counts, and so on are way more advanced when you have a powerful system, even if you're viewing in standard definition. In fact, HD may very well be one of the less noticeable improvements you'll see between a last gen game and a next gen game.

As I said, the difference between Wii and PS3 / Xbox 360 is way more than just an increase in resolution. It's an increase in EVERYTHING, and you don't need a 60" 1080p LCD screen to see it. So please, do not act like the only difference between Wii and the other systems is that Wii can't output in HD.

Timstuff

Maybe "sheep" don't really care a whole lot about graphics.

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#43 kiruyama
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Captain obvious strikes again.
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#44 CPM_basic
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I disagree. I think that the vast majority of posters on Gamespot, Nintendo fans included, know that there is a big difference from a graphical standpoint.Zerostatic0

I can't agree more. TC is out of the loop.

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#45 gander448
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i wouldn't call myself a sheep, but i do own the wii and i know there is a huge gap between them, my 360 craps all over my wii, if anyone says otherwise they are a fanboy
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#46 NobuoMusicMaker
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Who wants to compare Mario Kart Wii to GT5? :lol:
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#47 zombiepigeon
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I don't think they care.
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#48 dracula_16
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Who wants to compare Mario Kart Wii to GT5? :lol:NobuoMusicMaker

I just realized..Mario Kart is the closest thing to a racing sim on the Wii!

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#49 TacoJelly
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youd have to be an idiot to not notice that.

Anyway, I dont care.

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#50 wii4panta
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if I cared so much about the grafix I wouldnt buy a wii...I wouldnt buy a 360/ps3 either.;)