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#1 Fireboy78
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I think i found out the reason that xbox 360's graphic is little more better than Playstation 3. Main reason is Xbox 360's video card got DirectX 10.1, look closely 10.1. Sincely Microsoft have made the deal between ATI (video card company) that's which is enemy is Nvidia. ATI video card company have DirectX 10.1 while Nvidia not. Nvidia is all about "power" video card, more power and more expensive than ATI. ATI video card is cheaper, less power and tiny more better graphic than Nvidia. What you guys think about this issue that I bring it out? Sorry about my grammar, I sucks at grammar. Thanks Guys

Proof: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3529980&CatId=3670

Scroll down this website page and you will see "DirectX 10.1", you will NEVER see Nvidia video card features that say DirectX 10.1.

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I think i found out the reason that xbox 360's graphic is little more better than Playstation 3. Main reason is Xbox 360's video card got DirectX 10.1, look closely 10.1. Sincely Microsoft have made the deal between ATI (video card company) that's which is enemy is Nvidia. ATI video card company have DirectX 10.1 while Nvidia not. Nvidia is all about "power" video card, more power and more expensive than ATI. ATI video card is cheaper, less power and tiny more better graphic than Nvidia. What you guys think about this issue that I bring it out? Sorry about my grammar, I sucks at grammar. Thanks Guys

Proof: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3529980&CatId=3670

Scroll down this website page and you will see "DirectX 10.1", you will NEVER see Nvidia video card features that say DirectX 10.1.

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blah, blah, blah enough of this already
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#3 Fireboy78
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[QUOTE="Fireboy78"]

I think i found out the reason that xbox 360's graphic is little more better than Playstation 3. Main reason is Xbox 360's video card got DirectX 10.1, look closely 10.1. Sincely Microsoft have made the deal between ATI (video card company) that's which is enemy is Nvidia. ATI video card company have DirectX 10.1 while Nvidia not. Nvidia is all about "power" video card, more power and more expensive than ATI. ATI video card is cheaper, less power and tiny more better graphic than Nvidia. What you guys think about this issue that I bring it out? Sorry about my grammar, I sucks at grammar. Thanks Guys

Proof: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3529980&CatId=3670

Scroll down this website page and you will see "DirectX 10.1", you will NEVER see Nvidia video card features that say DirectX 10.1.

~Fireboy78

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patrickjw333

blah, blah, blah enough of this already

I just bring it up the good topic about "PS3 vs Xbox 360", maybe you try shut me up cuz you are Xbox 360 fanboy!

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#4 VINCENT299
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you my friend are going to flamed by ps3 fanboys good luck with that :D

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#5 HHH316
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I think i found out the reason that xbox 360's graphic is little more better than Playstation 3. Main reason is Xbox 360's video card got DirectX 10.1, look closely 10.1. Sincely Microsoft have made the deal between ATI (video card company) that's which is enemy is Nvidia. ATI video card company have DirectX 10.1 while Nvidia not. Nvidia is all about "power" video card, more power and more expensive than ATI. ATI video card is cheaper, less power and tiny more better graphic than Nvidia. What you guys think about this issue that I bring it out? Sorry about my grammar, I sucks at grammar. Thanks Guys

Proof: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3529980&CatId=3670

Scroll down this website page and you will see "DirectX 10.1", you will NEVER see Nvidia video card features that say DirectX 10.1.

~Fireboy78

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Fireboy78

How about ifyou just play games!!!

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whatever RSX lacks, cell makes up for it

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LOL This thread is about to be full of Uncharted 2 pics...
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I think i found out the reason that xbox 360's graphic is little more better than Playstation 3. Main reason is Xbox 360's video card got DirectX 10.1, look closely 10.1. Sincely Microsoft have made the deal between ATI (video card company) that's which is enemy is Nvidia. ATI video card company have DirectX 10.1 while Nvidia not. Nvidia is all about "power" video card, more power and more expensive than ATI. ATI video card is cheaper, less power and tiny more better graphic than Nvidia. What you guys think about this issue that I bring it out? Sorry about my grammar, I sucks at grammar. Thanks Guys

Proof: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3529980&CatId=3670

Scroll down this website page and you will see "DirectX 10.1", you will NEVER see Nvidia video card features that say DirectX 10.1.

~Fireboy78

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there isnt a single part of this remotly true.

-The 360 does not do Direct X 10.1. It does not even do DirectX 10.

-Nvidia cards have had DirectX 10.1 for a while now, I believe they even beat ATI to it by a couple of months.

-Graphiclly there is no difference at all for what ATI and Nvidia produce for 99% of games.

-In terms of Nvidia vs ATI, that balance tends to fluctuate every half year or so. Right now in terms of power over price ratio, they are very very similar.

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#9 sikanderahmed
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LOL This thread is about to be full of Uncharted 2 pics...Doolz2024

well uncharted doesnt really have realistic graphics

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#10 Fireboy78
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[QUOTE="Fireboy78"]

I think i found out the reason that xbox 360's graphic is little more better than Playstation 3. Main reason is Xbox 360's video card got DirectX 10.1, look closely 10.1. Sincely Microsoft have made the deal between ATI (video card company) that's which is enemy is Nvidia. ATI video card company have DirectX 10.1 while Nvidia not. Nvidia is all about "power" video card, more power and more expensive than ATI. ATI video card is cheaper, less power and tiny more better graphic than Nvidia. What you guys think about this issue that I bring it out? Sorry about my grammar, I sucks at grammar. Thanks Guys

Proof: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3529980&CatId=3670

Scroll down this website page and you will see "DirectX 10.1", you will NEVER see Nvidia video card features that say DirectX 10.1.

~Fireboy78

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there isnt a single part of this remotly true.

-The 360 does not do Direct X 10.1. It does not even do DirectX 10.

-Nvidia cards have had DirectX 10.1 for a while now, I believe they even beat ATI to it by a couple of months.

-Graphiclly there is no difference at all for what ATI and Nvidia produce for 99% of games.

-In terms of Nvidia vs ATI, that balance tends to fluctuate every half year or so. Right now in terms of power over price ratio, they are very very similar.

Ohh...I see, I try my best to find out what's wrong with Ps3's greaphic cuz xbox 360 graphic is little better than ps3's

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#11 osan0
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nope. firstly the 360s GPU is much much older than that card. its older than a HD 2000 series GPU and that was a DX10 chip secondly, the 360s GPU is not even remotely close to be powerful enough to run DX 10 code. its only got 48 shaders running at 500MHz. the card you have linked to has 320 and the latest cards have 800. thirdly....you seem to be going under the assumption that the 360 has the best graphics. thats very very debateable. games like killzone2 and uncharted 2 make a very strong case for the PS3. gears 2 is also a great looking game...but is it better looking? ooo im not going to get into that here. but yea....the 360s GPU is not even remotely close to being up to DX10.1 spec. it has nowhere near enough shaders to get the job done.
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#12 Rza_rectah
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this thread failed at more realistic.

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#13 quicksilverXP24
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Either the TC is foreign... or is a 5th grader that never made it past grammar lessons.

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I think i found out the reason that xbox 360's graphic is little more better than Playstation 3. Main reason is Xbox 360's video card got DirectX 10.1, look closely 10.1. Sincely Microsoft have made the deal between ATI (video card company) that's which is enemy is Nvidia. ATI video card company have DirectX 10.1 while Nvidia not. Nvidia is all about "power" video card, more power and more expensive than ATI. ATI video card is cheaper, less power and tiny more better graphic than Nvidia. What you guys think about this issue that I bring it out? Sorry about my grammar, I sucks at grammar. Thanks Guys

Proof: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3529980&CatId=3670

Scroll down this website page and you will see "DirectX 10.1", you will NEVER see Nvidia video card features that say DirectX 10.1.

~Fireboy78

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Fireboy78

I couldn't continue reading due to the fact that statement is false.

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[QUOTE="patrickjw333"][QUOTE="Fireboy78"]

I think i found out the reason that xbox 360's graphic is little more better than Playstation 3. Main reason is Xbox 360's video card got DirectX 10.1, look closely 10.1. Sincely Microsoft have made the deal between ATI (video card company) that's which is enemy is Nvidia. ATI video card company have DirectX 10.1 while Nvidia not. Nvidia is all about "power" video card, more power and more expensive than ATI. ATI video card is cheaper, less power and tiny more better graphic than Nvidia. What you guys think about this issue that I bring it out? Sorry about my grammar, I sucks at grammar. Thanks Guys

Proof: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3529980&CatId=3670

Scroll down this website page and you will see "DirectX 10.1", you will NEVER see Nvidia video card features that say DirectX 10.1.

~Fireboy78

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Fireboy78

blah, blah, blah enough of this already

I just bring it up the good topic about "PS3 vs Xbox 360", maybe you try shut me up cuz you are Xbox 360 fanboy!

If he was a 360 fanboy he would support your arguement. :roll::|

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I think i found out the reason that xbox 360's graphic is little more better than Playstation 3. Main reason is Xbox 360's video card got DirectX 10.1, look closely 10.1. Sincely Microsoft have made the deal between ATI (video card company) that's which is enemy is Nvidia. ATI video card company have DirectX 10.1 while Nvidia not. Nvidia is all about "power" video card, more power and more expensive than ATI. ATI video card is cheaper, less power and tiny more better graphic than Nvidia. What you guys think about this issue that I bring it out? Sorry about my grammar, I sucks at grammar. Thanks Guys

Proof: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3529980&CatId=3670

Scroll down this website page and you will see "DirectX 10.1", you will NEVER see Nvidia video card features that say DirectX 10.1.

~Fireboy78

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NO video card used in consoles have direct x 10. I am not sure they even use direct x as PCs do. Not to mention that direct x 10.1 or 10 wasnt even out when either consoles came out (or so i remember :?)
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#17 Hanass
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LOL This thread is about to be full of Uncharted 2 pics...Doolz2024

Uncharted 2 has cartoony graphics, not exactly the definition of realistic.

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I think i found out the reason that xbox 360's graphic is little more better than Playstation 3. Main reason is Xbox 360's video card got DirectX 10.1, look closely 10.1. Sincely Microsoft have made the deal between ATI (video card company) that's which is enemy is Nvidia. ATI video card company have DirectX 10.1 while Nvidia not. Nvidia is all about "power" video card, more power and more expensive than ATI. ATI video card is cheaper, less power and tiny more better graphic than Nvidia. What you guys think about this issue that I bring it out? Sorry about my grammar, I sucks at grammar. Thanks Guys

Proof: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3529980&CatId=3670

Scroll down this website page and you will see "DirectX 10.1", you will NEVER see Nvidia video card features that say DirectX 10.1.

~Fireboy78

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Fireboy78

WTF? Are you trying to fool ignorant consolites or what?

DirectX is a API for Windows PCs, and only used on Windows PCs. The 360 uses a API similar to DirectX, but still it is not DirectX. Both consoles GPUs are based on PC GPUs that utilized DirectX 9 technology. :|

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I really don't see much difference between the two...
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#20 360hammer
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http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/playstation-three2.htm

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/xbox-three-sixty3.htm

2 completely different approaches. I prefer the PS3 myself and I like the fact if a dev wants to do a true 1080p game without upscaling it can be done on the PS3.

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[QUOTE="Fireboy78"]

I think i found out the reason that xbox 360's graphic is little more better than Playstation 3. Main reason is Xbox 360's video card got DirectX 10.1, look closely 10.1. Sincely Microsoft have made the deal between ATI (video card company) that's which is enemy is Nvidia. ATI video card company have DirectX 10.1 while Nvidia not. Nvidia is all about "power" video card, more power and more expensive than ATI. ATI video card is cheaper, less power and tiny more better graphic than Nvidia. What you guys think about this issue that I bring it out? Sorry about my grammar, I sucks at grammar. Thanks Guys

Proof: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3529980&CatId=3670

Scroll down this website page and you will see "DirectX 10.1", you will NEVER see Nvidia video card features that say DirectX 10.1.

~Fireboy78

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glez13

WTF? Are you trying to fool ignorant consolites or what?

DirectX is a API for Windows PCs, and only used on Windows PCs. The 360 uses a API similar to DirectX, but still it is not DirectX. Both consoles GPUs are based on PC GPUs that utilized DirectX 9 technology. :|

Hmmm, I wonder where the name xbox came from? Direct X in a box maybe?

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Realistic or not is up to the dev and the engine used to develop a game not directX because that would make windows 7's graphics.... godly like :| since it will be using directX 1000 or whatever..
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#23 Brownesque
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[QUOTE="Fireboy78"]

I think i found out the reason that xbox 360's graphic is little more better than Playstation 3. Main reason is Xbox 360's video card got DirectX 10.1, look closely 10.1. Sincely Microsoft have made the deal between ATI (video card company) that's which is enemy is Nvidia. ATI video card company have DirectX 10.1 while Nvidia not. Nvidia is all about "power" video card, more power and more expensive than ATI. ATI video card is cheaper, less power and tiny more better graphic than Nvidia. What you guys think about this issue that I bring it out? Sorry about my grammar, I sucks at grammar. Thanks Guys

Proof: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3529980&CatId=3670

Scroll down this website page and you will see "DirectX 10.1", you will NEVER see Nvidia video card features that say DirectX 10.1.

~Fireboy78

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NO video card used in consoles have direct x 10. I am not sure they even use direct x as PCs do. Not to mention that direct x 10.1 or 10 wasnt even out when either consoles came out (or so i remember :?)

Direct X10 came out after the Xbox 360, that I'm sure of. The first DX10 card was the Nvidia 8800 releasing in November 8, 2006, a full year after the launch of the Xbox 360. ATI released their FIRST DX10 card based off the R600 architecture several months later, in 2007. Well over a year after the launch of the XBox 360.

The fact of the matter is that the Xbox 360 includes basic architectural similarities to the R600, a basis ATI DX10 cards shared. It has a unified shader, for instance. It is not capable of running DX10 and in fact runs DX9. This has been known for ages. Please, please, don't use bad information on these forums, you're only hurting the community. http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3153097

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#24 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="360hammer"]

[QUOTE="glez13"]

[QUOTE="Fireboy78"]

I think i found out the reason that xbox 360's graphic is little more better than Playstation 3. Main reason is Xbox 360's video card got DirectX 10.1, look closely 10.1. Sincely Microsoft have made the deal between ATI (video card company) that's which is enemy is Nvidia. ATI video card company have DirectX 10.1 while Nvidia not. Nvidia is all about "power" video card, more power and more expensive than ATI. ATI video card is cheaper, less power and tiny more better graphic than Nvidia. What you guys think about this issue that I bring it out? Sorry about my grammar, I sucks at grammar. Thanks Guys

Proof: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3529980&CatId=3670

Scroll down this website page and you will see "DirectX 10.1", you will NEVER see Nvidia video card features that say DirectX 10.1.

~Fireboy78

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WTF? Are you trying to fool ignorant consolites or what?

DirectX is a API for Windows PCs, and only used on Windows PCs. The 360 uses a API similar to DirectX, but still it is not DirectX. Both consoles GPUs are based on PC GPUs that utilized DirectX 9 technology. :|

Hmmm, I wonder where the name xbox came from? Direct X in a box maybe?

no just no lol.
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#25 Brownesque
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nope. firstly the 360s GPU is much much older than that card. its older than a HD 2000 series GPU and that was a DX10 chip secondly, the 360s GPU is not even remotely close to be powerful enough to run DX 10 code. its only got 48 shaders running at 500MHz. the card you have linked to has 320 and the latest cards have 800. thirdly....you seem to be going under the assumption that the 360 has the best graphics. thats very very debateable. games like killzone2 and uncharted 2 make a very strong case for the PS3. gears 2 is also a great looking game...but is it better looking? ooo im not going to get into that here. but yea....the 360s GPU is not even remotely close to being up to DX10.1 spec. it has nowhere near enough shaders to get the job done.osan0

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_8300_mgpu_us.html

This is a Geforce 8300. It can run DirectX10 code.

It's dramatically slower than the 8500 GT:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_8500.html

Which also runs DirectX10 code, and yet only has 16 processor cores, 1/3 of the Xenos' quantity of unified shaders. Granted, neither of these cards run DX10 code very well, they don't even run DX9 code very well at all.

But even the 9800 GT, which is essentially just a rebuffed 8800 GT, has only 112 processor cores.

This is the GTX280, which is a monstrosity that runs well over $250 and yet only has 240 stream processors.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gtx_280_us.html

So to begin with, it's not necessary to have a lot of processor cores to run DX10 code. Second, modern processors can chew DX10 code pretty well, despite the fact that they only have a fraction of the stream processors you mentioned.

Granted, ATI DX10 cards seem to generally have more stream processors than their Nvidia counterparts. However, this doesn't seem to help their performance. Nvidia cards generally outperform DX10 ATI cards.

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#26 osan0
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[QUOTE="osan0"]nope. firstly the 360s GPU is much much older than that card. its older than a HD 2000 series GPU and that was a DX10 chip secondly, the 360s GPU is not even remotely close to be powerful enough to run DX 10 code. its only got 48 shaders running at 500MHz. the card you have linked to has 320 and the latest cards have 800. thirdly....you seem to be going under the assumption that the 360 has the best graphics. thats very very debateable. games like killzone2 and uncharted 2 make a very strong case for the PS3. gears 2 is also a great looking game...but is it better looking? ooo im not going to get into that here. but yea....the 360s GPU is not even remotely close to being up to DX10.1 spec. it has nowhere near enough shaders to get the job done.Brownesque

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_8300_mgpu_us.html

This is a Geforce 8300. It can run DirectX10 code.

It's dramatically slower than the 8500 GT:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_8500.html

Which also runs DirectX10 code, and yet only has 16 processor cores, 1/3 of the Xenos' quantity of unified shaders. Granted, neither of these cards run DX10 code very well, they don't even run DX9 code very well at all.

But even the 9800 GT, which is essentially just a rebuffed 8800 GT, has only 112 processor cores.

This is the GTX280, which is a monstrosity that runs well over $250 and yet only has 240 stream processors.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gtx_280_us.html

So to begin with, it's not necessary to have a lot of processor cores to run DX10 code. Second, modern processors can chew DX10 code pretty well, despite the fact that they only have a fraction of the stream processors you mentioned.

Granted, ATI DX10 cards seem to generally have more stream processors than their Nvidia counterparts. However, this doesn't seem to help their performance. Nvidia cards generally outperform DX10 ATI cards.

your comparing geforce cards to radeon cards.....which is pointless. they work very differently. their architecture is completly different. a geforce 8300 or 8500 are also absolutely, positively dreadful cards....absolutely woeful. they were woeful when they were released. nice for a media center PC but for games....not woth the cost of the cardboard the were packed with. as you said, they can technically run DX10.....but good look to any developer that tries it. it gets very messy so i wont go into detail....but lets just say that 1 nvidia shader is not equal to one ati shader. the way they are arranged at the hardware level and the way data is dealt with is also completly different. a more apt comparison is the 360s GPU vs a HD 2000 series radeon. that was based on 360 tech. again technically they could run DX10 code (even the really low end ones)...but it wasnt a good idea. the 2000 series will not be fondly remembered....especially for its DX10 performance. the latest radeons have 800 shaders (no that doesent mean there better than nvidia cards) and they do run DX10 code well. but that architecture has been greatly refined and improved since the 360.....and well it has roughly 8X as many shaders. it would actually be interesting to see if the 360s GPU could run DX10 code. it does have a unified shader architecture....so its possible i think. but of course as far as games concerned.....the GPU is a non runner for DX10. it just doesnt have the nexessary grunt. if a high end HD 2000series with 320 processors struggeled sturggeled with DX10...what chance has an older version of that chip with 48 shaders got at running DX10 code and DX10 effects in an actual game. it may be technically capable of running DX10....but in reality no dev is going to do it. they would end up with a pretty slide show.
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who cares about the tech and crap about this stuff.. the Xbox 360 is better. End of.
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#28 Rza_rectah
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who cares about the tech and crap about this stuff.. the Xbox 360 is better. End of.Dweedledude5000
is better based on your opinion, perception or the tech and crap?
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#29 Dweedledude5000
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[QUOTE="Dweedledude5000"]who cares about the tech and crap about this stuff.. the Xbox 360 is better. End of.Rza_rectah
is better based on your opinion, perception or the tech and crap?

im a Doom player. it means I have the most skill in FPS so that is why my opinion is fact
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#30 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="Dweedledude5000"]who cares about the tech and crap about this stuff.. the Xbox 360 is better. End of.Dweedledude5000
is better based on your opinion, perception or the tech and crap?

im a Doom player. it means I have the most skill in FPS so that is why my opinion is fact

i was a doom 2 player too man i beat the last level like 20 times a day i was hooked. I shot that head on the stake everyday after school. But in doom their is no y axis so i hardly see how that relates to current games. Unless u were referring to doom3. I know CS:S players that would mop the floor with you.
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#31 Dweedledude5000
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[QUOTE="Dweedledude5000"][QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] is better based on your opinion, perception or the tech and crap?Rza_rectah
im a Doom player. it means I have the most skill in FPS so that is why my opinion is fact

i was a doom 2 player too man i beat the last level like 20 times a day i was hooked. I shot that head on the stake everyday after school. But in doom their is no y axis so i hardly see how that relates to current games. Unless u were referring to doom3. I know CS:S players that would mop the floor with you.

Umm.. Source ports say hello... So does Custom Doom wads.. You havn't played Doom till you play it with a Source Port and a Custom Wad. Doom2.wad sucks.. you need a Quality Custom Wad like Reqium or Momento Mori.. and Plutonia 2 is THE best Custom set EVER. Play em all under Zdoom or Risen3D and if you want Mouselook then just enable it.
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#32 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="Dweedledude5000"] im a Doom player. it means I have the most skill in FPS so that is why my opinion is factDweedledude5000
i was a doom 2 player too man i beat the last level like 20 times a day i was hooked. I shot that head on the stake everyday after school. But in doom their is no y axis so i hardly see how that relates to current games. Unless u were referring to doom3. I know CS:S players that would mop the floor with you.

Umm.. Source ports say hello... So does Custom Doom wads.. You havn't played Doom till you play it with a Source Port and a Custom Wad. Doom2.wad sucks.. you need a Quality Custom Wad like Reqium or Momento Mori.. and Plutonia 2 is THE best Custom set EVER. Play em all under Zdoom or Risen3D and if you want Mouselook then just enable it.

I have no clue what you are talking about all i know is idkfa, idqdq and idclip:P. Do you have a youtube clip so i can understand?
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#33 bubbleboyii
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For all the hype that Xbox owners are putting on DX, don't you think Sony's developed and distributed a set of tools with similar to DX for developers?

...I don't actually know, I'm just guessing.

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#34 Dweedledude5000
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[QUOTE="Dweedledude5000"][QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] i was a doom 2 player too man i beat the last level like 20 times a day i was hooked. I shot that head on the stake everyday after school. But in doom their is no y axis so i hardly see how that relates to current games. Unless u were referring to doom3. I know CS:S players that would mop the floor with you.Rza_rectah
Umm.. Source ports say hello... So does Custom Doom wads.. You havn't played Doom till you play it with a Source Port and a Custom Wad. Doom2.wad sucks.. you need a Quality Custom Wad like Reqium or Momento Mori.. and Plutonia 2 is THE best Custom set EVER. Play em all under Zdoom or Risen3D and if you want Mouselook then just enable it.

I have no clue what you are talking about all i know is idkfa, idqdq and idclip:P. Do you have a youtube clip so i can understand?

Download this Port for Doom 2. http://zdoom.org/News Should come with a textfile to help you set it up.. trust me you aint played Doom till you play it with Zdoom
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#35 osan0
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For all the hype that Xbox owners are putting on DX, don't you think Sony's developed and distributed a set of tools with similar to DX for developers?

...I don't actually know, I'm just guessing.

bubbleboyii
the PS3 uses OpenGL for its graphics API actually to clarify. directX is a whole bunch of API that cover things from graphics to sound and keyboards and mouse. its sort of an all in one API for developers on the PC to use. its broken down into many components and the one were talking about here is direct3d. OpenGL is an alternative to Direct3D. its an open source API. both the wii and PS3 use openGL (no that doesent mean the wii can do everything the Ps3 can do of course) though i think sony and ninty modify it a bit and cut out some of the fluff thats not needed (openGL is used alot for movies and scientific research). but basically yea...its openGL. as to whether they update it? i dont think they really need to since the hardware cant support anything new. the reason PCs get new versions of directX and openGL is because the hardware keeps changing and improving so stuff is added to the APIs to take advantage of it. we only see new major versions really when new hardware is coming out. that doesent apply to consoles. i dont think MS have made any major overhauls to the version of DX used in the 360 since its launch either.
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#36 360hammer
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[QUOTE="360hammer"]

[QUOTE="glez13"]

WTF? Are you trying to fool ignorant consolites or what?

DirectX is a API for Windows PCs, and only used on Windows PCs. The 360 uses a API similar to DirectX, but still it is not DirectX. Both consoles GPUs are based on PC GPUs that utilized DirectX 9 technology. :|

Rza_rectah

Hmmm, I wonder where the name xbox came from? Direct X in a box maybe?

no just no lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX

Are you sure? LOL I think I may be onto something here 8).

DirectX 9 Logo looks really familiar.

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#37 mike_on_mic
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I think i found out the reason that xbox 360's graphic is little more better than Playstation 3. Main reason is Xbox 360's video card got DirectX 10.1, look closely 10.1. Sincely Microsoft have made the deal between ATI (video card company) that's which is enemy is Nvidia. ATI video card company have DirectX 10.1 while Nvidia not. Nvidia is all about "power" video card, more power and more expensive than ATI. ATI video card is cheaper, less power and tiny more better graphic than Nvidia. What you guys think about this issue that I bring it out? Sorry about my grammar, I sucks at grammar. Thanks Guys

Proof: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3529980&CatId=3670

Scroll down this website page and you will see "DirectX 10.1", you will NEVER see Nvidia video card features that say DirectX 10.1.

~Fireboy78

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Fireboy78

Direct-x 10.1 How the hell does this mean the 360 is better than the PS3, the ATI and NVidia difference. Yeah I can't EVER seeing nVidia supporting the next update to Direct-X 10. Nor supporting the next full version of Direct-X when it comes out. What kind of argument is that. Have you seen the difference between Direct-X 10 and 10.1 . Perhaps one should look those up before commenting on support for the drivers of a PC video card.

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#38 slvrraven9
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whatever RSX lacks, cell makes up for it

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they both suck in comparison to actual reality.
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#39 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="360hammer"]

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="360hammer"]

Hmmm, I wonder where the name xbox came from? Direct X in a box maybe?

no just no lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX

Are you sure? LOL I think I may be onto something here 8).

DirectX 9 Logo looks really familiar.

Hmmm that does kinda look like the old xbox X. You might be on to something. I should check out some of my old gamepros and EGM's i think they had an x box issue or something.
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#40 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="slvrraven9"][QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

whatever RSX lacks, cell makes up for it

they both suck in comparison to actual reality.

Reality is too complex to ever be mimicked in a video game no matter how advanced technology is. Even if they do get it down it will take 20 years to develop 1 game.
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#41 360hammer
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[QUOTE="360hammer"]

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] no just no lol.Rza_rectah

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX

Are you sure? LOL I think I may be onto something here 8).

DirectX 9 Logo looks really familiar.

I probibly should have emphisized the link more. Any here is a quote from it.

"The name DirectX was coined as shorthand term for all of these APIs (the X standing in for the particular API names) and soon became the name of the collection. When Microsoft later set out to develop a gaming console, the X was used as the basis of the name Xbox to indicate that the console was based on DirectX technology[citation needed]. The X initial has been carried forward in the naming of APIs designed for the Xbox such as XInput and XACT, superseding the Direct branding just as these newer APIs supersede DirectX predecessors such as DirectInput and DirectSound."

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#42 bizzy420
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[QUOTE="Fireboy78"]

I think i found out the reason that xbox 360's graphic is little more better than Playstation 3. Main reason is Xbox 360's video card got DirectX 10.1, look closely 10.1. Sincely Microsoft have made the deal between ATI (video card company) that's which is enemy is Nvidia. ATI video card company have DirectX 10.1 while Nvidia not. Nvidia is all about "power" video card, more power and more expensive than ATI. ATI video card is cheaper, less power and tiny more better graphic than Nvidia. What you guys think about this issue that I bring it out? Sorry about my grammar, I sucks at grammar. Thanks Guys

Proof: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3529980&CatId=3670

Scroll down this website page and you will see "DirectX 10.1", you will NEVER see Nvidia video card features that say DirectX 10.1.

~Fireboy78

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you have no idea what you are talking about, stop embarrassing yourself.
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#43 simslifer
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[QUOTE="Fireboy78"]

I think i found out the reason that xbox 360's graphic is little more better than Playstation 3. Main reason is Xbox 360's video card got DirectX 10.1, look closely 10.1. Sincely Microsoft have made the deal between ATI (video card company) that's which is enemy is Nvidia. ATI video card company have DirectX 10.1 while Nvidia not. Nvidia is all about "power" video card, more power and more expensive than ATI. ATI video card is cheaper, less power and tiny more better graphic than Nvidia. What you guys think about this issue that I bring it out? Sorry about my grammar, I sucks at grammar. Thanks Guys

Proof: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3529980&CatId=3670

Scroll down this website page and you will see "DirectX 10.1", you will NEVER see Nvidia video card features that say DirectX 10.1.

~Fireboy78

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W1NGMAN-

I couldn't continue reading due to the fact that statement is false.

lol I stopped there too.

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#44 Hanass
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"I think i found out the reason that xbox 360's graphic is little more better than Playstation 3."

A little more better? What has the Internet become?:cry:

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#45 Leo-Magic
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[QUOTE="360hammer"]

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/playstation-three2.htm

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/xbox-three-sixty3.htm

2 completely different approaches. I prefer the PS3 myself and I like the fact if a dev wants to do a true 1080p game without upscaling it can be done on the PS3.

no. definitely not as easy as you think.
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#46 Leo-Magic
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[QUOTE="bizzy420"][QUOTE="Fireboy78"]

I think i found out the reason that xbox 360's graphic is little more better than Playstation 3. Main reason is Xbox 360's video card got DirectX 10.1, look closely 10.1. Sincely Microsoft have made the deal between ATI (video card company) that's which is enemy is Nvidia. ATI video card company have DirectX 10.1 while Nvidia not. Nvidia is all about "power" video card, more power and more expensive than ATI. ATI video card is cheaper, less power and tiny more better graphic than Nvidia. What you guys think about this issue that I bring it out? Sorry about my grammar, I sucks at grammar. Thanks Guys

Proof: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3529980&CatId=3670

Scroll down this website page and you will see "DirectX 10.1", you will NEVER see Nvidia video card features that say DirectX 10.1.

~Fireboy78

Please answer this topic, thanks :D

you have no idea what you are talking about, stop embarrassing yourself.

and you know what you are talking about ??
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#47 DragonfireXZ95
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This thread is full of misinformation and fail by the TC. It's all wrong.

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#48 360hammer
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[QUOTE="360hammer"]

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/playstation-three2.htm

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/xbox-three-sixty3.htm

2 completely different approaches. I prefer the PS3 myself and I like the fact if a dev wants to do a true 1080p game without upscaling it can be done on the PS3.

Leo-Magic

no. definitely not as easy as you think.

I know it's not easy or else we would see more true 1080p games. Saying 1080p on the back of the game box doesn't mean native 1080p. I tried to find a link but unsuccessful, I think NBA 09 The Inside is a native 1080p game though.

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#49 painguy1
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And i thought people couldnt get any stupider. before i start i am neither a ps3 fanboy nor 360 fanboy. i have a 360, wii, and a gaming PC WHY THE **** IS EVERYONE SO ******* COMPUTER ILLITERATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the 360 has a derivative of directx 9. its not even full DX9. just cause something has an nvidia card doesnt mean it automatically has DX10.1. Im TIRED OF IDIOTS SAYING **** THEY DONT EVEN KNOW.

THE REAL REASON Y THE 360 LOOKS BETTER THAN THE PS3 (PLZZZZZZZZZZ READ THIS CONSOLE FANBOYS AND TECH ILITERATE USERS)

i dont have the ps3, but i will admit that it has technically superior hardware than the 360. the reason its game look worse than the 360 is because

sony made powerful hardware, but designed the chip itself so stupidly it underpreforms the 360.

The 360 was made before DX10, and is not powerful enough to run the DX10 code. aside from that the 360 does not use a standard PC GPU (even though it is similar). that makes it incompatible with any DX which is y it only partially uses DX9 and uses some other API as its base.

stupid console fanboy. i(im rly sry but i have had enough of this stupiity. i cant help but curse and flame. dont take my insults seriously)

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#50 jrhawk42
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this gen is all about software, and the xbox 360's development tools are just easier to use hence better products.