I think MGS4 will flop real hard here in gamespot

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#1 heaven_in_hell
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why??? because its a ps3 exclusive

lol

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#2 XD88FDB
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Nah
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#3 loudharley
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I dont think gamespot is bias.I think its more super sony fanboys wanting the ps3 games to be 10s even if there not.
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#4 Joshywaa
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I can see MGS4 getting a 9 or 9.5

anything lower then those will cause chaos unlike we've ever seeeeeeeen

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#5 BreakingPoint8
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No, mainly Sony first party titles flop. MGS4 is a third party title.
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#6 DeathIsARight
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I agree. I am starting to think PS3 will never get a AAA exclusive title here.
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#7 Tiefster
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I dont think gamespot is bias.I think its more super sony fanboys wanting the ps3 games to be 10s even if there not.loudharley


It wouldn't be a problem if the average score for game x that was released today wasn't 92%. I mean if it was A right across the board no harm no foul but this is really odd. Haven't seen something like this since TP and its leaving me confused.
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#8 ss_49
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Nah, won't flop. I can see it getting 8.5 here but after todays uhh....incident...I highly doubt the cows will have the balls to hype it AAA.

I'll be hyping triple A for sure though, I have faith in Kojima :)

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#9 finalfantasy94
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I dont think gamespot is bias.I think its more super sony fanboys wanting the ps3 games to be 10s even if there not.loudharley

After what happend to R&C you should really put the pieces together.

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#10 BreakingPoint8
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[QUOTE="loudharley"]I dont think gamespot is bias.I think its more super sony fanboys wanting the ps3 games to be 10s even if there not.Tiefster


It wouldn't be a problem if the average score for game x that was released today wasn't 92%. I mean if it was A right across the board no harm no foul but this is really odd. Haven't seen something like this since TP and its leaving me confused.

The only review site/magazine that I trust is Gametrailers. They earned my respect after their FFXII review that I felt was spot on.

But I respect Gamespots opinion, Gamespy gave it an 8.0 I believe. I was so sure this was going to be atleast AA here too.

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#11 finalfantasy94
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Nah, won't flop. I can see it getting 8.5 here but after todays uhh....incident...I highly doubt the cows will have the balls to hype it AAA.

I'll be hyping triple A for sure though, I have faith in Kojima :)

ss_49

Its not about having less faith in Kojima ( I have 100% faith in him) its having faith in GS which i have -100% faith in them. IGN all the way.

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#13 BlazeDragon132
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If it does, Jechtshot78 will kill the reviewer.

Still, I only take GI, GameTrailers, and IGN seriously, so it can get 6 here for all it wants.

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#14 BreakingPoint8
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[QUOTE="ss_49"]

Nah, won't flop. I can see it getting 8.5 here but after todays uhh....incident...I highly doubt the cows will have the balls to hype it AAA.

I'll be hyping triple A for sure though, I have faith in Kojima :)

finalfantasy94

Its not about having less faith in Kojima ( I have 100% faith in him) its having faith in GS which i have -100% faith in them. IGN all the way.

IGN is less credible than Gamespot. Actually most reviewers are, because it's one persons opinion of the game.
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"][QUOTE="ss_49"]

Nah, won't flop. I can see it getting 8.5 here but after todays uhh....incident...I highly doubt the cows will have the balls to hype it AAA.

I'll be hyping triple A for sure though, I have faith in Kojima :)

BreakingPoint8

Its not about having less faith in Kojima ( I have 100% faith in him) its having faith in GS which i have -100% faith in them. IGN all the way.

IGN is less credible than Gamespot.

How? They scored Halo 3 and Orange Box the same scores as GS.

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#16 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"][QUOTE="ss_49"]

Nah, won't flop. I can see it getting 8.5 here but after todays uhh....incident...I highly doubt the cows will have the balls to hype it AAA.

I'll be hyping triple A for sure though, I have faith in Kojima :)

BreakingPoint8

Its not about having less faith in Kojima ( I have 100% faith in him) its having faith in GS which i have -100% faith in them. IGN all the way.

IGN is less credible than Gamespot. Actually most reviewers are, because it's one persons opinion of the game.

How is ign less credible?

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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"][QUOTE="ss_49"]

Nah, won't flop. I can see it getting 8.5 here but after todays uhh....incident...I highly doubt the cows will have the balls to hype it AAA.

I'll be hyping triple A for sure though, I have faith in Kojima :)

BreakingPoint8

Its not about having less faith in Kojima ( I have 100% faith in him) its having faith in GS which i have -100% faith in them. IGN all the way.

IGN is less credible than Gamespot.

Not anymore it's not.

TC: Normally I would scold you for trolling, but you're probably right. Expect like an 8.0 here, especially if that sports-loving Thomas guy reviews it.

Not enough basketball in it for him!

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[QUOTE="BreakingPoint8"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"][QUOTE="ss_49"]

Nah, won't flop. I can see it getting 8.5 here but after todays uhh....incident...I highly doubt the cows will have the balls to hype it AAA.

I'll be hyping triple A for sure though, I have faith in Kojima :)

BlazeDragon132

Its not about having less faith in Kojima ( I have 100% faith in him) its having faith in GS which i have -100% faith in them. IGN all the way.

IGN is less credible than Gamespot.

How? They scored Halo 3 and Orange Box the same scores as GS.

Folklore 9.0? The average is 75 at Metacritic. Which is just as bad as Gamespot giving R&C a 7.5, neither review is reliable.
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#19 ss_49
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[QUOTE="ss_49"]

Nah, won't flop. I can see it getting 8.5 here but after todays uhh....incident...I highly doubt the cows will have the balls to hype it AAA.

I'll be hyping triple A for sure though, I have faith in Kojima :)

finalfantasy94

Its not about having less faith in Kojima ( I have 100% faith in him) its having faith in GS which i have -100% faith in them. IGN all the way.

If you would underhype a game for the sole purpose of avoiding "ownage" on SW...that makes me sad :(

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#20 tribalTox
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[QUOTE="loudharley"]I dont think gamespot is bias.I think its more super sony fanboys wanting the ps3 games to be 10s even if there not.finalfantasy94

After what happend to R&C you should really put the pieces together.

I dont think MGS4 is in the same class of R&C..It'll score good here. Also i have never let a review dictate what game i buy or how much fun i am gonna have playing it

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#21 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="BlazeDragon132"][QUOTE="BreakingPoint8"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"][QUOTE="ss_49"]

Nah, won't flop. I can see it getting 8.5 here but after todays uhh....incident...I highly doubt the cows will have the balls to hype it AAA.

I'll be hyping triple A for sure though, I have faith in Kojima :)

BreakingPoint8

Its not about having less faith in Kojima ( I have 100% faith in him) its having faith in GS which i have -100% faith in them. IGN all the way.

IGN is less credible than Gamespot.

How? They scored Halo 3 and Orange Box the same scores as GS.

Folklore 9.0? The average is 75 at Metacritic. Which is just as bad as Gamespot giving R&C a 7.5, neither review is reliable.

Yea, buts basicly saying that all review sites are usless.

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#22 pins_basic
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Was GS bias against the PS2.
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#23 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="loudharley"]I dont think gamespot is bias.I think its more super sony fanboys wanting the ps3 games to be 10s even if there not.tribalTox

After what happend to R&C you should really put the pieces together.

I dont think MGS4 is in the same class of R&C..It'll score good here. Also i have never let a review dictate what game i buy or how much fun i am gonna have playing it

That sir is very true. Iv played 5 and up games and I still have fun. Its just when it comes to opinions I want to hear ign is first. Then its the GS bords not the GS review staff.

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#24 BreakingPoint8
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Well, to me Gametrailers is usually spot on.
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#25 finalfantasy94
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Was GS bias against the PS2.pins_basic

Ever heard of the term flip-flop? Thats what GS is doing.

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#26 Joshywaa
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[QUOTE="pins_basic"]Was GS bias against the PS2.finalfantasy94

Ever heard of the term flip-flop? Thats what GS is doing.

:|

i think you need some sleep

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#27 BreakingPoint8
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I don't think Gamespot or IGN is biased, it's just they lack consistency. But all reviews suffer from that problem.

Heavenly Sword is a decent Example

7.0 at IGN and 8.0 here at Gamespot.

Folklore 9.0 IGN and a 7.0 here at Gamespot.

Folklore is NOT better than Heavenly Sword. I spit on that review.

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#28 ss_49
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[QUOTE="tribalTox"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="loudharley"]I dont think gamespot is bias.I think its more super sony fanboys wanting the ps3 games to be 10s even if there not.finalfantasy94

After what happend to R&C you should really put the pieces together.

I dont think MGS4 is in the same class of R&C..It'll score good here. Also i have never let a review dictate what game i buy or how much fun i am gonna have playing it

That sir is very true. Iv played 5 and up games and I still have fun. Its just when it comes to opinions I want to hear ign is first. Then its the GS bords not the GS review staff.

Truthful opinions are extremely few and far between in forums though...

Hell, 99% of the people bashing/defending R&C haven't even played the full game yet. I doubt even half of them have played the demo.

If you want truth stay as far away from SW as you can. Just read all the major reviews...yes even GS. Seeing a great game from a negetive point of view is never a bad thing.

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#29 ss_49
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I don't think Gamespot or IGN is biased, it's just they lack consistency. But all reviews suffer from that problem.

Heavenly Sword is a decent Example

7.0 at IGN and 8.0 here at Gamespot.

Folklore 9.0 IGN and a 7.0 here at Gamespot.

Folklore is NOT better than Heavenly Sword. I spit on that review.

BreakingPoint8

Exactly.

Cows after HS IGN Review:"You can't spell ignorant without IGN!!!!"

Cows after RC GS Review:"Screw GS, it's all about IGN baby!!!!"

*I really don't mean to single out the PS3 folk but it's the most recent example I can think of...in actuallity I have seen this from every fanboy sect*

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#30 BlazeDragon132
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Actually, I agreed with the 7. It is too short and lacking of gameplay.

Different opinions I guess, I thought Folklore was AA game also.

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#31 Gamer46
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I dont think gamespot is bias.I think its more super sony fanboys wanting the ps3 games to be 10s even if there not.loudharley

It has more to do with the fact that R&C is definitely better than a 7.5, period. But anyway, MGS scores have vaired from AA to AAA here so it's too hard to predict. I'd expect 8.5 since I don't think it's going to be too mind-blowing outside of its graphics.

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#32 Gamer46
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"][QUOTE="tribalTox"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="loudharley"]I dont think gamespot is bias.I think its more super sony fanboys wanting the ps3 games to be 10s even if there not.ss_49

After what happend to R&C you should really put the pieces together.

I dont think MGS4 is in the same class of R&C..It'll score good here. Also i have never let a review dictate what game i buy or how much fun i am gonna have playing it

That sir is very true. Iv played 5 and up games and I still have fun. Its just when it comes to opinions I want to hear ign is first. Then its the GS bords not the GS review staff.

Truthful opinions are extremely few and far between in forums though...

Hell, 99% of the people bashing/defending R&C haven't even played the full game yet. I doubt even half of them have played the demo.

If you want truth stay as far away from SW as you can. Just read all the major reviews...yes even GS. Seeing a great game from a negetive point of view is never a bad thing.

Unless the low review was for a 360 game, then I'm sure most here defending the R&C review would have a major problem with it. Don't have to worry about that though.

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#33 PS360Fanboy
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have you seen other MGS Gamespot revews?

this will no doubt get a 9.5 or even.... 10!

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#34 sxs_alex
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why??? because its a ps3 exclusive

lol

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people are starting to realize that. it's no secret.

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#35 Planeforger
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have you seen other MGS Gamespot revews?

this will no doubt get a 9.5 or even.... 10!

PS360Fanboy

Must I do this again?

MGS1 - 8.5
MGS2 - 9.6
MGS2 remake - 7.5
MGS3 - 8.7
MGS3 remake - 9.0

Average = 8.66

Only one non-remade MGS game was AAA, so your statement is false. If the games' score can be predicted from previous scores, then it'll probably follow the trend and get 8.5-9.0.

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#36 The_Ish
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Nah, won't flop. I can see it getting 8.5 here but after todays uhh....incident...I highly doubt the cows will have the balls to hype it AAA.

I'll be hyping triple A for sure though, I have faith in Kojima :)

ss_49

Same here. :D

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#37 Gamer46
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MGS series has reviews all over the place, it's impossible to predict what 4 will get.
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#38 Mandingo101
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Nah, won't flop. I can see it getting 8.5 here but after todays uhh....incident...I highly doubt the cows will have the balls to hype it AAA.

I'll be hyping triple A for sure though, I have faith in Kojima :)

ss_49
i think its pretty much confirmed its AAA hype. a hype thread when the time comes will only confirm that. if there is any chance at AAAE within the next year on ps3 its that game. especially now that it has an online component, but it didnt even need that IMO, thats just overkill.
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#39 Gamer46
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Snake Eater was hyped AAA as well and the first iteration flopped. I'd tred lightly if I were hyping this one.
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#40 ljlrj
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i dont think mgs4 going 2 get below and 9 but then again mgs3 got and 8.7 not substance
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#41 Mandingo101
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Snake Eater was hyped AAA as well and the first iteration flopped. I'd tred lightly if I were hyping this one.Gamer46
snake eater didnt have an online portion and it was set in an unpopular era. MGS4 has online features and is in the future, with all the robots and technology, etc etc. there is only so much you can do with the 60s era, those floating soldier platforms was pushing it.
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#42 mynameisdigo
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After MGS3's review, I don't really know what to expect.

I trusted GS for many years, but really, they are X360 fans, it's way too obvious. R&C getting a 7.5 when pretty much everybody else gives it AAA? Meh :(

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#43 Thompsonwhore
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why??? because its a ps3 exclusive

lol

:)

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#44 Always-Honest
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not funny. and i'm not even a cow.
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#45 sam280992
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why??? because its a ps3 exclusive

lol

:)

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Agreed...

" Its too much like a movie which makes it fun to watch but when you do get the chance to play it, its boring to play"

7.5

I can actually imagine that happening

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#46 the-very-best
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Don't think I'd mind.

MGS and MGS3 got AA here and they're 2 of my favourite games.

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#47 sam280992
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My God! Ratchet and clank got a 9.4 on IGN, I didn't even notice that... Yup I lost faith with Gamespot
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#48 -Serpahim-
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Im changing my MGS4 hype from AAA to B...that seems like the only logical way to go about it. GS seems adamant to make sure PS3 games are docked points more severly for flaws that many other games share too.
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#49 ByFly
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affcourse it will flop... they want to bring out 2 versions of MGS4.... MGS online only and MGS4... thats plain stupid and afcourse smart way to milk the cows same way GT5 prolouge and GT5 are gonna be milked... gamespot will probably flop MGS4 just cuz of that..
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#50 Sollet
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hahawatch it get 8.5...

I am still hyping it 9.5 ;)