I think nintendo may have the wrong message all along.

Sure the wii and the ds have had the appeal for a large variety of people, but I think they send out the wrong message. After studing all their advertisement campain from the start of this gen, I realize that nintendo is fine with the idea of having video games viewed as toys for people.

I think I agree now with the notion that nintendo doesn't want to evolve, or at least they don't want to go out of their own self-imposed philosophy. I understand that it's the way they make money, butI certainly don't want people to view it as such.

Nintendo got the industry running by selling the Nintendo as a toy. That's how Consoles are viewed. The only System that's not a Toy is a PC because it has more uses outside of play (even though, the PC can be used as a Toy too.)

Nintendo got the industry running by selling the Nintendo as a toy. That's how Consoles are viewed. The only System that's not a Toy is a PC because it has more uses outside of play (even though, the PC can be used as a Toy too.)

LegatoSkyheart

basically this /thread

What do you expect, games are toys. Very few "games" manage to break that marginalizing definition and even once they do they don't stack up well against other mediums in terms of maturity or sophisticated intellectual/emotional impact. The medium is developing but it's still in its infancy, one birthed by the aformentioned Nintendo.

they dont want to evolve?

they keep changing the industry

they dont want to evolve?

they keep changing the industry

munchlax99

[QUOTE="munchlax99"]

they dont want to evolve?

they keep changing the industry

Dibdibdobdobo

haha yea :P

nintendo makes consoles and games that appeal to everyone...

if the wii is a toy then so is the ps3 and 360.

Lol. Video games are toys. But not all toys are for kids.foxhound_fox

It's been said, but it stands repeating. Vidoe games are toys. Toys are for adults and kids. Nintendo has tried to make thier consoles and games appeal to both.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Lol. Video games are toys. But not all toys are for kids.edo-tensei

wait so there are no video games for kids? am i missing something?

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Lol. Video games are toys. But not all toys are for kids.munchlax99

wait so there are no video games for kids? am i missing something?

Gaming systems are toys.

Toys are for Kids and weird Adults.Deniable_Ops

Indeed and, again, deal with it: You are a weird adult. That's why you play video games.

[QUOTE="munchlax99"]

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"] Lol then I guess gaming will never be as mainstream as music or movies. A market that won't grow as much as people claim is doing.edo-tensei

wait so there are no video games for kids? am i missing something?

Why does that bother you?vashkey

It's insecurity. Nerds are, by definition, very insecure. That's why they don't read comics; they read "graphic novels." They don't play video games, they verbalize the noun and "game... Video games."

And here's the funny part: Those female humans some of you may have read about on the Internet will be more than willing to accept all your weird hobbies if you embrace the fact that they are all part of your inner child, who's still alive and healthy, because there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Once you start going all "THEY ARE NOT TOYS! THEY ARE FIGURINES I USE TO PLAY TEH L33T STRATEGY GAME KNOWN AS WARHAMMER WHICH IS A VERY MATURE ACTIVITY FOR MATURE PEOPLE SUCH AS MYSELF," you are in trouble.

I wouldn't really call game consoles "toys" -- I would call them entertainment devices. The word "toy" has a connotation that something only children play with, which is not the case; the average gamer is actually much older. Maybe this is just semantics though.

It is true that Nintendo does cater to a younger audience than either Sony or Microsoft (or many third parties) because it tries to cater to everyone, but that much has always been true, really. To say that is the "wrong message" is rather debatable, considering how much the Wii and DS have sold, and how great many of their recent games have been. So I'm not sure what you're getting at here.

i dont think is a toy , i think toy means something that can be played for children only, videogames are meant to be played for adults too, like movies and music which are for everyone, a toy ( a barbie for example) its not made for adults (i know there are adult people can play with it but is the minority

Video games are toys. The sooner you grow up, the sooner you will be ok with that.

i dont think is a toy , i think toy means something that can be played for children only, videogames are meant to be played for adults too, like movies and music which are for everyone, a toy ( a barbie for example) its not made for adults (i know there are adult people can play with it but is the minority

christiankhs-2

Movies and music aren't play things or games with objectives where you can win or lose, that's why they're not toys.

Video Games are not Toys. Toys are for Kids and weird Adults. Video Games can be for either Adults or Children.Deniable_Ops

What about sex toys? Those are still toys. LOL

Video games are toys.

Games can deliver more than fun. Nintendo focusses on fun. I think it's fine. Very few big developers focus on fun. They focus on a license, on technology, on mass appeal, on cinematic rather than fun, and more often than not I find those games not as awesome as a nintendo game.

Video games are toys. The sooner you grow up, the sooner you will be ok with that.

goblaa

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Video games are toys. The sooner you grow up, the sooner you will be ok with that.

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

Video games are toys. The sooner you grow up, the sooner you will be ok with that.

edo-tensei

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]This is the correct way of looking at it. All other theories on the subject is wrong.

Bigboi500

Just because people refer to them as toys doesn't equate to its meaning as such.

edo-tensei

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"]

Just because people refer to them as toys doesn't equate to its meaning as such.

Bigboi500

Then what the heck are they?

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"]

Just because people refer to them as toys doesn't equate to its meaning as such.

edo-tensei

Remember, Sony systems are called Play...station, a station where one 'plays'. What does that name suggest to you?

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Then what the heck are they?

shinrabanshou

[QUOTE="vashkey"]Why does that bother you?LordQuorthon

It's insecurity. Nerds are, by definition, very insecure. That's why they don't read comics; they read "graphic novels." They don't play video games, they verbalize the noun and "game... Video games."

And here's the funny part: Those female humans some of you may have read about on the Internet will be more than willing to accept all your weird hobbies if you embrace the fact that they are all part of your inner child, who's still alive and healthy, because there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Once you start going all "THEY ARE NOT TOYS! THEY ARE FIGURINES I USE TO PLAY TEH L33T STRATEGY GAME KNOWN AS WARHAMMER WHICH IS A VERY MATURE ACTIVITY FOR MATURE PEOPLE SUCH AS MYSELF," you are in trouble.

Haha, great post man.

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Then what the heck are they? Daily brain enhancers? Macho man trainers? Dexterity builders? :lol:

Bigboi500

Remember, Sony systems are called Play...station, a station where one 'plays'. What does that name suggest to you?

nintendo makes consoles and games that appeal to everyone...

if the wii is a toy then so is the ps3 and 360.

KBFloYd

Nintendo only makes games for their fans and casuals. Sony is the only one tha provides games for everyone.

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Then what the heck are they?

nintendoboy16

For starters, some words used to describe this industry like "video games" are not the best use of those words, and I'll leave it at that... Also, I wasn't implying that nintendo is a toy, I said that their add campain aims for that opinion, which isn't helping this industry at all. But then again money is money , companies don't really care for the well being of an industry as log as they maximize profits.

edo-tensei

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"]

For starters, some words used to describe this industry like "video games" are not the best use of those words, and I'll leave it at that... Also, I wasn't implying that nintendo is a toy, I said that their add campain aims for that opinion, which isn't helping this industry at all. But then again money is money , companies don't really care for the well being of an industry as log as they maximize profits.

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

nintendo makes consoles and games that appeal to everyone...

if the wii is a toy then so is the ps3 and 360.

GD1551

Nintendo only makes games for their fans and casuals. Sony is the only one tha provides games for everyone.

Some just do it better than others, like Super Mario Galaxy for example. It appeals to children and adults by having something for both, or everyone. Children can pick it up and play it and have fun, and those gamers who expect something deeper and challenging can enjoy the deep gameplay that exists within the game by accessing the more difficult parts that children and casuals will not be able to reach. That's why it's such a masterpiece and critically acclaimed as such. Kinect's Sesame Street on the other hand is solely focused on young children and has no attractive value for more dedicated gamers and adults.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"]

For starters, some words used to describe this industry like "video games" are not the best use of those words, and I'll leave it at that... Also, I wasn't implying that nintendo is a toy, I said that their add campain aims for that opinion, which isn't helping this industry at all. But then again money is money , companies don't really care for the well being of an industry as log as they maximize profits.

edo-tensei