I think sony should come out with a new version for the PS3, to save it.

I think they should first make a ps3 that hasa stripped downblue ray player or DVD that devs could still make games on for both verison, if thats even possiable. This way if someone really wants the dvd player in their ps3 they would just end up buying the $600 version. I think they should take out the WIFI, and drop the 60gb down to a 30 gb. Also, take out all backwards capabilities technology. Then sell the system for $300 without a wireless controller and with a wired one. Also, take out the HDMI ports it that save money too.

This way they get there price cut without having to lose more money and go into the red zone deeper. They would probably reach deep into the 100 million fan pool all more.

And right before i would launch this down graded version, i would have MGS3, FFIII, and KZ2 (assuming it would live up to the hype) ready forbuyingthe same day as the new console.

I think they would sell millions more consoles, and then they could focus on getting more third party support. After, two of the down graded versiion is or they started seeing that they have broke even or was making a profit drop the down graded verison and introduce our 600 version for 450, and then have another ps3, that would have some amazing features like playing 600 channels of tv through the ps3 that would rival any satilight or cable networks. and beable to fully fuction as a fast pc. Alos, coming up with a brilliant new control system that dwarfs the wii. Then i would not sell very many and cause the gaming divion to go into the red, but i would slowily introduce it into the market at 150 more than it would cost to make, probabley around 800. I wwould want to market it so the games would look more like an a side thing rather than a gaming system. I would want to target fathers, and not moms, kids. It would have every sports channle. easy to use recording devise to be able to record several games at once then watch them all latter. If the PS3 is really 1/4 the power of a super computer i would take full advatage of every thing i could and market it to the real descison makers. THe dads

well MS should come out with an xbox 360 that doesnt break but i still love my 360BDSch

true im on my third but i still love my 360

What? The games require blu ray, they might aswell let it play movies. No blu ray at all won't play any games lol.Taz-Bone

Let's make a new PS3 that doesn't play PS3 games, what a great idea!

What? The games require blu ray, they might aswell let it play movies. No blu ray at all won't play any games lol.Taz-Bone

Ps3 with no blu ray=A ps3 that cant play any of the ps3's current games

They cant take out the blu ray drive out now , its too late.They should have let the games run on dvds instead of blu rays like the360dvd and hd dvd thing.Its not as if any games take advantage of the blu ray.They fill the 60 gigs full of uncompressed files and text support in 20 languages

Microsoft has already announced that it is making deals to bring internet tv through the 360 so I don't know if Sony would want to go against MS with this.

Sony can't bring out a strip out version as all the games getting made are based on using blu-ray disks so no games being made just now would work on the stripped down PS3. You can't take out blu-ray and DVD player as you need one of them to load the disks.

The best thing Sony can do to help the PS3 is to focus on bring out games and fix the PSN.

Ps3 with no blu ray=A ps3 that cant play any of the ps3's current games

They cant take out the blu ray drive out now , its too late.They should have let the games run on dvds instead of blu rays like the360dvd and hd dvd thing.Its not as ifany games take advantage of the blu ray.They fillthe 60 gigs full of uncompressed files and text support in 20 languages

whocares4peace

Ps3 with no blu ray=A ps3 that cant play any of the ps3's current games

They cant take out the blu ray drive out now , its too late.They should have let the games run on dvds instead of blu rays like the360dvd and hd dvd thing.Its not as if any games take advantage of the blu ray.They fill the 60 gigs full of uncompressed files and text support in 20 languages

whocares4peace

Resistence used 22gigs

Lair will use at least 50gigs

MGS4 will use at least 50 gigs

FFXIII will use at least 50gigs

[QUOTE="whocares4peace"]

Ps3 with no blu ray=A ps3 that cant play any of the ps3's current games

They cant take out the blu ray drive out now , its too late.They should have let the games run on dvds instead of blu rays like the360dvd and hd dvd thing.Its not as ifany games take advantage of the blu ray.They fillthe 60 gigs full of uncompressed files and text support in 20 languages

Dogmatic923

OK guys, just STOP,

The ability of the PS3 to play Bluray movies and DVD movies is all done in SOFTWARE. If they took out movie playback, the price would be the same. I get to play Bluray movie as a FREE BONUS. I'm really glad you guys are not in charge of Sony8)

Microsoft has already announced that it is making deals to bring internet tv through the 360 so I don't know if Sony would want to go against MS with this.

Sony can't bring out a strip out version as all the games getting made are based on using blu-ray disks so no games being made just now would work on the stripped down PS3. You can't take out blu-ray and DVD player as you need one of them to load the disks.

The best thing Sony can do to help the PS3 is to focus on bring out games and fix the PSN.

campbell1874

[QUOTE="whocares4peace"]

Ps3 with no blu ray=A ps3 that cant play any of the ps3's current games

They cant take out the blu ray drive out now , its too late.They should have let the games run on dvds instead of blu rays like the360dvd and hd dvd thing.Its not as if any games take advantage of the blu ray.They fill the 60 gigs full of uncompressed files and text support in 20 languages

mztazmz

Resistence used 22gigs

Lair will use at least 50gigs

MGS4 will use at least 50 gigs

FFXIII will use at least 50gigs

[QUOTE="mztazmz"][QUOTE="whocares4peace"]

Ps3 with no blu ray=A ps3 that cant play any of the ps3's current games

They cant take out the blu ray drive out now , its too late.They should have let the games run on dvds instead of blu rays like the360dvd and hd dvd thing.Its not as if any games take advantage of the blu ray.They fill the 60 gigs full of uncompressed files and text support in 20 languages

Dogmatic923

Resistence used 22gigs

Lair will use at least 50gigs

MGS4 will use at least 50 gigs

FFXIII will use at least 50gigs

LOL...are you kidding...

Those gigs he is talking about are the gigs used on the blu ray disk, not the gigs used on the PS3s HDD, lol. Man you really should be the last one talking about what Sony should or shouldnt do seeing as you dont even fully understand what they are currently providing. It sounds like you desperatly want a PS3 but cant afford it. Wait till the price drop this christmas and get one but stop bashing a console you have absolutly NO KNOWLEDGE of.

Points wrong in your argument:

1. Why talk about a stripped down system when Sony has already dropped the 20GB version? It's clear that they do not want to do a bare bones system. If I was Sony and wanted to, I'd revamp the 20GB model so it actually earns money, not introduce a new one.
2. You need the Blu Ray player for the games. Sony has already stood firm on this point (that they would use Blu Ray for the PS3). If they suddenly changed format, they'd lose even more money. Consumers would feel betrayed by this and wouldn't buy the PS3 any more.
3. You need HDTV. Sony already expressed how the PS3 has so much more graphical horsepower than the 360. Now, this may be true, but where's the proof? You still need an HDTV to make the best use out of the system.
4. If the games are rushed into completion so it can match the timing of the launch of the new system, they will not live up to the hype. Rushed games are not good. Even if they had more people working on the games, that would push other games' launches further back. Then we would have a shortage of PS3 games. And Sony can't just hire people; it just doesn't work that way.
5. Long time cost. This bare bones system is obviously aimed at the working class market. Now, they may be able to buy the PS3, but what about the running costs? How are they going to pay for new games? What about maintenance (which is expensive) if it breaks down after the warranty? Have you factored in that the market it aims toward will only be able to buy very few games a year?

So overall, I think your point is invalid. It's nice to see someone who wants affordability so it's accessible to everyone, but the way Sony's played it out so far, it's just not possible.

[QUOTE="Dogmatic923"][QUOTE="mztazmz"][QUOTE="whocares4peace"]

Ps3 with no blu ray=A ps3 that cant play any of the ps3's current games

They cant take out the blu ray drive out now , its too late.They should have let the games run on dvds instead of blu rays like the360dvd and hd dvd thing.Its not as if any games take advantage of the blu ray.They fill the 60 gigs full of uncompressed files and text support in 20 languages

Javy03

Resistence used 22gigs

Lair will use at least 50gigs

MGS4 will use at least 50 gigs

FFXIII will use at least 50gigs

LOL...are you kidding...

Those gigs he is talking about are the gigs used on the blu ray disk, not the gigs used on the PS3s HDD, lol. Man you really should be the last one talking about what Sony should or shouldnt do seeing as you dont even fully understand what they are currently providing. It sounds like you desperatly want a PS3 but cant afford it. Wait till the price drop this christmas and get one but stop bashing a console you have absolutly NO KNOWLEDGE of.

Points wrong in your argument:

1. Why talk about a stripped down system when Sony has already dropped the 20GB version? It's clear that they do not want to do a bare bones system. If I was Sony and wanted to, I'd revamp the 20GB model so it actually earns money, not introduce a new one.
2. You need the Blu Ray player for the games. Sony has already stood firm on this point (that they would use Blu Ray for the PS3). If they suddenly changed format, they'd lose even more money. Consumers would feel betrayed by this and wouldn't buy the PS3 any more.
3. You need HDTV. Sony already expressed how the PS3 has so much more graphical horsepower than the 360. Now, this may be true, but where's the proof? You still need an HDTV to make the best use out of the system.
4. If the games are rushed into completion so it can match the timing of the launch of the new system, they will not live up to the hype. Rushed games are not good. Even if they had more people working on the games, that would push other games' launches further back. Then we would have a shortage of PS3 games. And Sony can't just hire people; it just doesn't work that way.
5. Long time cost. This bare bones system is obviously aimed at the working class market. Now, they may be able to buy the PS3, but what about the running costs? How are they going to pay for new games? What about maintenance (which is expensive) if it breaks down after the warranty? Have you factored in that the market it aims toward will only be able to buy very few games a year?

So overall, I think your point is invalid. It's nice to see someone who wants affordability so it's accessible to everyone, but the way Sony's played it out so far, it's just not possible.

akodikosako

Stopped reading when you said they should take out the blu ray player....Don't they need that to read blu ray discs?