I told ya'll Battlefield 3 was an updated version of medal of honor.......

I love the game and all that, its sweet....i got access to the beta this morning. the graphics look a little bit better than medal of honor and bad company 2, its not as live as the ones they keep showing on the trailer.[which i'm pretty sure every one knew] but its still nice, i just can't help but notice the gameplay reminds me ALOT of Medal of Honor which is a great game and deserved at least an 8

Wish I could play the Beta.

PC version?SaltyMeatballs

Honestly, it is almost impossible to fully judge how this game will be until we get a 64 player map and conquest. Rush is a solid mode, but this is Battlefield, not BC.

Honestly, it is almost impossible to fully judge how this game will be until we get a 64 player map and conquest. Rush is a solid mode, but this is Battlefield, not BC.

TreyoftheDead

Honestly, it is almost impossible to fully judge how this game will be until we get a 64 player map and conquest. Rush is a solid mode, but this is Battlefield, not BC.

TreyoftheDead

Wait until the 25th before you make that claim...

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Honestly, it is almost impossible to fully judge how this game will be until we get a 64 player map and conquest. Rush is a solid mode, but this is Battlefield, not BC.

wis3boi

[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="TreyoftheDead"]

Honestly, it is almost impossible to fully judge how this game will be until we get a 64 player map and conquest. Rush is a solid mode, but this is Battlefield, not BC.

viper-kid

Wait until the 25th before you make that claim...

mitu123

Got it in one

[QUOTE="viper-kid"][QUOTE="wis3boi"] ^ this. The beta is 32 players on a map in a subway tunnel, what more do you expect? We cant judge until we see 64 player conquest and vehiclesmillerlight89

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="viper-kid"] This is all you get on GS 'You can't judge until the game comes out'. I m pretty sure the BETA is meant to provide feedback not to be rushed by fanboys about 'Wait until it's out'. Why do Devs release trailers, demos and betas? To represent their game so opinions for those are noted for the full game.viper-kid

Its not like that though. We are basing judgements on what we've seen. While BF3 really went all out and looks great MW3 looks the same and looks like it plays the same too. So people are allowed to judge like that without having played it. We are judging based on what is presented before us.

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[QUOTE="millerlight89"] You can't judge the game when it's one map, one mode, and only 32 players. It's not that hard to understand.seanmcloughlin

Its not like that though. We are basing judgements on what we've seen. While BF3 really went all out and looks great MW3 looks the same and looks like it plays the same too. So people are allowed to judge like that without having played it. We are judging based on what is presented before us.

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[QUOTE="millerlight89"] You can't judge the game when it's one map, one mode, and only 32 players. It's not that hard to understand.seanmcloughlin

Its not like that though. We are basing judgements on what we've seen. While BF3 really went all out and looks great MW3 looks the same and looks like it plays the same too. So people are allowed to judge like that without having played it. We are judging based on what is presented before us.

Like I said if someone is not allowed to critisise a Beta (Because it's not the full game) then whats the point of a Beta? this is not a demo. viper-kid

To catch bugs and do balance changes. Really damn simple. A beta or demo is never a representation of the final product.

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[QUOTE="viper-kid"] With the BF fans you can't judge the game until release. But MW3 you are allowed to bash without playing whereas BF3 when you play it you still must stay silent. With that logic you can't praise BF3 since you haven't played the full game...

The_Pacific

Its not like that though. We are basing judgements on what we've seen. While BF3 really went all out and looks great MW3 looks the same and looks like it plays the same too. So people are allowed to judge like that without having played it. We are judging based on what is presented before us.

I guess you're right. There are a tonne of double standards when it comes to both games. Its basically the underdog story. BF3 is the underdog taking down the giant of COD. So people want to see it happen. Some people also feel like COD is passed its glory and BF3 deserves the limelight more. Maybe the healthy competition will wake up COD dev's and next time it will be a completely new game

didnt they say that? it will use the moh hud

So if what is 'presented before us' is not satisfactory then we are allowed to express those opinions as they may or may not be in the full game. Like I said if someone is not allowed to critisise a Beta (Because it's not the full game) then whats the point of a Beta? this is not a demo. viper-kid

[QUOTE="The_Pacific"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Its not like that though. We are basing judgements on what we've seen. While BF3 really went all out and looks great MW3 looks the same and looks like it plays the same too. So people are allowed to judge like that without having played it. We are judging based on what is presented before us.

seanmcloughlin

I guess you're right. There are a tonne of double standards when it comes to both games. Its basically the underdog story. BF3 is the underdog taking down the giant of COD. So people want to see it happen. Some people also feel like COD is passed its glory and BF3 deserves the limelight more. Maybe the healthy competition will wake up COD dev's and next time it will be a completely new game

Viper-Kid said one thing about BF3 beta and look what happened ? He got jumped on by BF fanboys just because he has a different opinion.

[QUOTE="The_Pacific"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Its not like that though. We are basing judgements on what we've seen. While BF3 really went all out and looks great MW3 looks the same and looks like it plays the same too. So people are allowed to judge like that without having played it. We are judging based on what is presented before us.

seanmcloughlin

I guess you're right. There are a tonne of double standards when it comes to both games. Its basically the underdog story. BF3 is the underdog taking down the giant of COD. So people want to see it happen. Some people also feel like COD is passed its glory and BF3 deserves the limelight more. Maybe the healthy competition will wake up COD dev's and next time it will be a completely new game

Viper-Kid said one thing about BF3 beta and look what happened ? He got jumped on by BF fanboys just because he has a different opinion.

The_Pacific

You must not read his other posts or know who he is then. If you did, you'd understand why people jump on his statements so quickly.

No.......just no.

I have played the alpha for an extensive period of time and had a few hours with the beta and its nothing like MOH.

BF3 is good whereas MOH is trash.

I am playing the game maxed out at 110+ FPS and it looks absolutely gorgeous.

Its not an underdog story :| BF is a multi-million dollar franchise with many games under its wings. People bash MW3 ANY chance they get and praise BF3 or make excuses.Viper-Kid said one thing about BF3 beta and look what happened ? He got jumped on by BF fanboys just because he has a different opinion.The_Pacific

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Viper-Kid said one thing about BF3 beta and look what happened ? He got jumped on by BF fanboys just because he has a different opinion.

ChubbyGuy40

You must not read his other posts or know who he is then. If you did, you'd understand why people jump on his statements so quickly.

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[QUOTE="The_Pacific"] Still a double standard. BF3 is held to a different standard than MW3 and the hypocrisy on SW is just amazing especially when people bash or criticize BF3.The_Pacific

I guess you're right. There are a tonne of double standards when it comes to both games. Its basically the underdog story. BF3 is the underdog taking down the giant of COD. So people want to see it happen. Some people also feel like COD is passed its glory and BF3 deserves the limelight more. Maybe the healthy competition will wake up COD dev's and next time it will be a completely new game

Viper-Kid said one thing about BF3 beta and look what happened ? He got jumped on by BF fanboys just because he has a different opinion.

Yeah sure they are multi million companies. But one has to be smaller than the other and its just so happens that DICE are WAY smaller than the COD guys.It makes DICE's multi million company seem a lot smaller. People see COD as been recycled and the same thing but they see BF3 as totally new. So they want BF3 to do better and be better because they feel like it deserves it more. That I think IS an underdog story. The fact that any game could come and shake up the COD camp so much. People will like COD again when it changes its ways and provides something fresh. People can't sfford many games anymore and they don't want to buy MW3 because it might be the same thing re done again. But BF3 looks new (even if its not) so they feel like it deserves their money more.

[QUOTE="The_Pacific"]

Viper-Kid said one thing about BF3 beta and look what happened ? He got jumped on by BF fanboys just because he has a different opinion.

ChubbyGuy40

You must not read his other posts or know who he is then. If you did, you'd understand why people jump on his statements so quickly.

Unless DICE let us play a REAL Battlefield map instead of the clustered up piece ofcrap that is Operation Metro; I don't think we can judge the final product yet. I mean there isn't even any vehicles in the beta and that's what Battlefield is known for...

Despite my little rant, I'm still enjoying the beta, just wish DICE chose a different map.:P

[QUOTE="viper-kid"]Like I said if someone is not allowed to critisise a Beta (Because it's not the full game) then whats the point of a Beta? this is not a demo. ChubbyGuy40

To catch bugs and do balance changes. Really damn simple. A beta or demo is never a representation of the final product.

CoD hasn't cornerd 90% of the market its just the most popular shooter now. Shooters are still being developed and selling millions. BF3 is nowhere near an "underdog" if you said Homefront than you'd have a point but BF3 will sell million of copies and gain critical success.The_Pacific

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Viper-Kid said one thing about BF3 beta and look what happened ? He got jumped on by BF fanboys just because he has a different opinion.

viper-kid

You must not read his other posts or know who he is then. If you did, you'd understand why people jump on his statements so quickly.

HA !! good one..

[QUOTE="viper-kid"][QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

You must not read his other posts or know who he is then. If you did, you'd understand why people jump on his statements so quickly.

seanmcloughlin

HA !! good one..

If you are not allowed to bash then you are not allowed to praise the game since you haven't played the full game.viper-kid

No one said you are not allowed to bash, but comparing it to something it's clearly not is going to receive backlash from other users.

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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

I guess you're right. There are a tonne of double standards when it comes to both games. Its basically the underdog story. BF3 is the underdog taking down the giant of COD. So people want to see it happen. Some people also feel like COD is passed its glory and BF3 deserves the limelight more. Maybe the healthy competition will wake up COD dev's and next time it will be a completely new game

seanmcloughlin

Viper-Kid said one thing about BF3 beta and look what happened ? He got jumped on by BF fanboys just because he has a different opinion.

Yeah sure they are multi million companies. But one has to be smaller than the other and its just so happens that DICE are WAY smaller than the COD guys.It makes DICE's multi million company seem a lot smaller. People see COD as been recycled and the same thing but they see BF3 as totally new. So they want BF3 to do better and be better because they feel like it deserves it more. That I think IS an underdog story. The fact that any game could come and shake up the COD camp so much. People will like COD again when it changes its ways and provides something fresh. People can't sfford many games anymore and they don't want to buy MW3 because it might be the same thing re done again. But BF3 looks new (even if its not) so they feel like it deserves their money more.

A. People enjoy the game and find a lot of value in the yearly product.

B. Its not trash like a lot of people like to tell themself it is

BF3 is deff making some headway and pushing the genre (graphically) into a new era but to say that people will all ofa sudden stop playing MW3 and hop on BF3 is wishful thinking.

[QUOTE="The_Pacific"] CoD hasn't cornerd 90% of the market its just the most popular shooter now. Shooters are still being developed and selling millions. BF3 is nowhere near an "underdog" if you said Homefront than you'd have a point but BF3 will sell million of copies and gain critical success.ActionRemix

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[QUOTE="viper-kid"] My other posts ain't relevant I m trying to understand why the BF fans can't take criticism about BF3 while I can take criticism about Cod without lashing out. And then defend BF by the 'wait until release' then they go on to bash a MW3 a game they haven't played, atleast the BF criticism has more weight since you are playing a represention of the full game. If you are not allowed to bash then you are not allowed to praise the game since you haven't played the full game.ActionRemix

HA !! good one..

Fail on his part....

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[QUOTE="viper-kid"] My other posts ain't relevant I m trying to understand why the BF fans can't take criticism about BF3 while I can take criticism about Cod without lashing out. And then defend BF by the 'wait until release' then they go on to bash a MW3 a game they haven't played, atleast the BF criticism has more weight since you are playing a represention of the full game. If you are not allowed to bash then you are not allowed to praise the game since you haven't played the full game.ActionRemix

HA !! good one..

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="The_Pacific"] CoD hasn't cornerd 90% of the market its just the most popular shooter now. Shooters are still being developed and selling millions. BF3 is nowhere near an "underdog" if you said Homefront than you'd have a point but BF3 will sell million of copies and gain critical success.The_Pacific

When compared to COD in terms of recognition, it is an underdog.

I just hate the consistent bashing of Cod in threads that have nothing to do with it and if you guys get made because you can't refute my point then thats coolviper-kid

If the game didn't have so many obvious flaws that most like to pretend don't exist, then people wouldn't bash it so.

Refute your point? Are you really telling us to refute YOUR opinion?

[QUOTE="The_Pacific"][QUOTE="ActionRemix"] Do you know what 90% and cornered mean? Just curious. :P DICE isn't disqualified from being an underdog just because it's a corporation.el3m2tigre

When compared to COD in terms of recognition, it is an underdog.

Look at all the marketing EA is putting behind it...doesn't seem like it need "recognition" to me.

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[QUOTE="The_Pacific"] Its not an underdog story :| BF is a multi-million dollar franchise with many games under its wings. People bash MW3 ANY chance they get and praise BF3 or make excuses.

Viper-Kid said one thing about BF3 beta and look what happened ? He got jumped on by BF fanboys just because he has a different opinion.

The_Pacific

Yeah sure they are multi million companies. But one has to be smaller than the other and its just so happens that DICE are WAY smaller than the COD guys.It makes DICE's multi million company seem a lot smaller. People see COD as been recycled and the same thing but they see BF3 as totally new. So they want BF3 to do better and be better because they feel like it deserves it more. That I think IS an underdog story. The fact that any game could come and shake up the COD camp so much. People will like COD again when it changes its ways and provides something fresh. People can't sfford many games anymore and they don't want to buy MW3 because it might be the same thing re done again. But BF3 looks new (even if its not) so they feel like it deserves their money more.

A. People enjoy the game and find a lot of value in the yearly product.

B. Its not trash like a lot of people like to tell themself it is

BF3 is deff making some headway and pushing the genre (graphically) into a new era but to say that people will all ofa sudden stop playing MW3 and hop on BF3 is wishful thinking.

[QUOTE="TreyoftheDead"]

Honestly, it is almost impossible to fully judge how this game will be until we get a 64 player map and conquest. Rush is a solid mode, but this is Battlefield, not BC.

millerlight89

Actually, this is Battlefield 3, not Battlefield 1, 2, or Bad Company.

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

HA !! good one..

viper-kid

to YOU BF may not be fun. but to us we think its more fun than COD. Stop trying to make your opinions facts. You say you hate the bashing that happens yet you openely and consistently get involved in it

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]HA !! good one..viper-kid