I too hate the fact that we have to PAY for Xbox Live Gold.

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#1 Blue-Sky
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however,

I went to corner store and bought a pack of Newports, a lighter and 20z Pepsi for around 5 bucks. Yeah it was good for that moment, but what do I have to show for it? Nothing but empty calories and black lungs.

That same 5 bucks could of gave me onlineCTF in Halo, Fights in DOA, deathmatches in TF2 for 30 days. Sucks that we're paying for p2p mp we can get elsewhere for free, but at the same time I probably would of spend that same 5 bucks on something worthless.

Do I want to pay for XBL? No. Is it worth it? Yeah...

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Agreed, it's definitely worth it. I never experience lag, and there's always people to play against.
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#3 Dante2710
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agreed...i havent experienced any problems and i have had my 360 for almost two years =)
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#4 Slyprince
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Its a bad analogy

but I agree with you

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#5 Miles0T0Prower
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IF u bought a 300$+ system and pay 40-60 dollars a game then u should not have to worry anout 5$ a month I love xbla nd dont mind paying
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#6 MetroidPrimePwn
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But you could've spent that 5 Bucks on 1/10th of a game!
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#7 manningbowl135
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It's not the money, it's the principle. P2P should be free.
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#8 musicalmac  Moderator
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I love this thread. Seriously. Bravo, TC.
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#9 Out_Kast3000
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That's Microsoft for you.

They overprice things and sale you defective hardware(XBOX 360).

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#10 MrEpyx
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What people don't realize is that the only reason Microsoft charges for it is because they can. I'm sure people are not happy paying $500 for a PS3 which has worse graphics than a $279 Xbox 360, but guess what? People are buying it anyway. At least the people paying for XBL are getting something worthwhile.
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#11 nikolajz1
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It wierd why MSFT charges you for Xbox Live. I pay 60 dollars for a game and I have to pay even more to unlock a feature that is bulit into the game. Wierd!
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It wierd why MSFT charges you for Xbox Live. I pay 60 dollars for a game and I have to pay even more to unlock a feature that is bulit into the game. Wierd!nikolajz1
Says he with the Crackdown avatar :lol:
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#13 Supernova_86
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I agree completely. We consumers hate paying money for playing online, but at least the Xbox 360 has QUALITY online gameplay that is actually worth paying for. I would rather pay money for good online instead of recieving free online if its poor.

Put it this way: would you prefer a basket of rotten apples for free, orwould youtake a basket of ripe apples and pay money for it?

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I can't even get on right now... It wont even let me try to trouble shoot... each time I try to sign into my account it sits there for a few minutes and then goes back to the select account screen... Its really pissing me off right now... and before some one calls me an moron I've had live for 2 years and nothing is wrong with my internet because I'm on this right now. Is this happening to anyone else (I just got on so this is the first topic I've been to incase there is a bunch of topics about this)
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[QUOTE="nikolajz1"]It wierd why MSFT charges you for Xbox Live. I pay 60 dollars for a game and I have to pay even more to unlock a feature that is bulit into the game. Wierd!musicalmac
Says he with the Crackdown avatar :lol:


What's so funny? Crackdown is probably one of the best games  I have played in a while. I could care less if you dont like it. An open-ended platformer/shooter done right. 
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I agree completely. We consumers hate paying money for playing onle, but at least the Xbox 360 has QUALITY online gameplay that is actually worth paying for. I would rather pay money for good online instead of recieving free online if its poor.

Put it this way: would you prefer a basket of rotten apples for free, or would you take a basket of ripe apples and pay money for it?

Supernova_86

Who are you to say that our online is poor? I get a ton of hours playing warhawk, resistance, and now COD4. There is nothing and I am going to say it again nothing wrong with PSN. Its free and in the end it gets the main point of playing online across, yet xbl, u have to pay $50.

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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="nikolajz1"]It wierd why MSFT charges you for Xbox Live. I pay 60 dollars for a game and I have to pay even more to unlock a feature that is bulit into the game. Wierd!nikolajz1
Says he with the Crackdown avatar :lol:


What's so funny? Crackdown is probably one of the best games  I have played in a while. I could care less if you dont like it. An open-ended platformer/shooter done right. 

Where did I say I didn't like it :| I got it the morning it was released, and enjoyed it frequently. I was just pointing out the irony after your "pay for more features" statement. Anyone who owns Crackdown knows what I'm talking about. EDIT: For goodness sakes, man, it's in my sig! :shout:
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#18 Son_Of_Synyster
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I'm beginning to despise people who complain about paying for Gold. You know what's HORRIDLY overpriced? $20+ for a tee-shirt that costs $2 to make. Yet, we buy them. $7.50 to see a movie in theaters. Yet, we see them. Everything in life is over-priced, it's business. When it comes down to it though, I feel I'm MORE than getting my moneys worth. I'd rather pay $50 for Live than nothing for something like Wii's service.
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#19 chillpill100
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1 solution , Wii , wii has free online, and its decent to
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#20 nikolajz1
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[QUOTE="nikolajz1"][QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="nikolajz1"]It wierd why MSFT charges you for Xbox Live. I pay 60 dollars for a game and I have to pay even more to unlock a feature that is bulit into the game. Wierd!musicalmac
Says he with the Crackdown avatar :lol:


What's so funny? Crackdown is probably one of the best games  I have played in a while. I could care less if you dont like it. An open-ended platformer/shooter done right. 

Where did I say I didn't like it :| I got it the morning it was released, and enjoyed it frequently. I was just pointing out the irony after your "pay for more features" statement. Anyone who owns Crackdown knows what I'm talking about. EDIT: For goodness sakes, man, it's in my sig! :shout:


Sorry about that...lol...didnt see your sig!
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#21 Supernova_86
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[QUOTE="Supernova_86"]

I agree completely. We consumers hate paying money for playing onle, but at least the Xbox 360 has QUALITY online gameplay that is actually worth paying for. I would rather pay money for good online instead of recieving free online if its poor.

Put it this way: would you prefer a basket of rotten apples for free, or would you take a basket of ripe apples and pay money for it?

shazanarkand

Who are you to say that our online is poor? I get a ton of hours playing warhawk, resistance, and now COD4. There is nothing and I am going to say it again nothing wrong with PSN. Its free and in the end it gets the main point of playing online across, yet xbl, u have to pay $50.

I am not referring to PS3 online. I have never played PS3 online so I cannot have a comment...I am referring to Wii online. Friend codes anyone?

Yeah, Wii online is crap.

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#22 musicalmac  Moderator
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Sorry about that...lol...didnt see your sig!nikolajz1
No worries ;) 'Tis a rockin' game.
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#23 ocdog45
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paying for xbox live sucks, but like everybody says....you get what you pay for. the system is almost flawless.
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1 solution , Wii , wii has free online, and its decent tochillpill100

:lol: Wii online isn't even comparable to the other consoles. Not to mention it has no good online titles.

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[QUOTE="chillpill100"]1 solution , Wii , wii has free online, and its decent to-Tretiak

:lol: Wii online isn't even comparable to the other consoles. Not to mention it has no good online titles.

I totally agree with that, but xbox, and playstation had online, Gamecube didnt , so the Wii is still new to the online buisness, and they are getting prgressivly better. As for the no good online titles, well there is mario strikers which is a good online game, but besids that your right...for now, you are forgetting abut MoH h2, it will have 32 people online! that is hug for the wii that only has a few online games, as well as Brawl, that is a GREAT multiplayer game , and online makes it better.

besids all that my point is still......its free

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#26 nikolajz1
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[QUOTE="-Tretiak"]

[QUOTE="chillpill100"]1 solution , Wii , wii has free online, and its decent tochillpill100

:lol: Wii online isn't even comparable to the other consoles. Not to mention it has no good online titles.

I totally agree with that, but xbox, and playstation had online, Gamecube didnt , so the Wii is still new to the online buisness, and they are getting prgressivly better. As for the no good online titles, well there is mario strikers which is a good online game, but besids that your right...for now, you are forgetting abut MoH h2, it will have 32 people online! that is hug for the wii that only has a few online games, as well as Brawl, that is a GREAT multiplayer game , and online makes it better.

besids all that my point is still......its free


True but besides Mario Strikers the Wii has no online games. Smash Brothers might make up for that though
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#27 King_of_Sorrow
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PSN is just as good as XBL when it comes to actually playing a game online.
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#28 Lidve
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And than u complain when u have to pay for WOW...

U can play WOW 24/7for whole month for same price of..lets say one movie ticket.And movie is like 3 hours long.

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And than u complain when u have to pay for WOW...

U can play WOW 24/7for whole month for same price of..lets say one movie ticket.And movie is like 3 hours long.

Lidve
Live is a much better deal than WoW. Can you honestly be comparing these two?
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#30 -Karmum-
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But you'll pay for a pack of smokes? (may I add buying them at least 3 or 4 times a month?)
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[QUOTE="Lidve"]

And than u complain when u have to pay for WOW...

U can play WOW 24/7for whole month for same price of..lets say one movie ticket.And movie is like 3 hours long.

musicalmac

Live is a much better deal than WoW. Can you honestly be comparing these two?

Yes,they are both pay 2 enjoy.

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just because it's cheap doesn't make it worth it.
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#33 Compression
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however,

I went to corner store and bought a pack of Newports, a lighter and 20z Pepsi for around 5 bucks. Yeah it was good for that moment, but what do I have to show for it? Nothing but empty calories and black lungs.

That same 5 bucks could of gave me onlineCTF in Halo, Fights in DOA, deathmatches in TF2 for 30 days. Sucks that we're paying for p2p mp we can get elsewhere for free, but at the same time I probably would of spend that same 5 bucks on something worthless.

Do I want to pay for XBL? No. Is it worth it? Yeah...

Blue-Sky

You could have bought 5 condoms for that price. But instead, now you have 5 kids. Should have skipped the ctf match now shouldn't you?

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I agree completely. We consumers hate paying money for playing online, but at least the Xbox 360 has QUALITY online gameplay that is actually worth paying for. I would rather pay money for good online instead of recieving free online if its poor.

Put it this way: would you prefer a basket of rotten apples for free, orwould youtake a basket of ripe apples and pay money for it?

Supernova_86
Are you trying to say PSN online play is like rotten apples because if you are then boy are you wrong, COD4 no lag at all.... Free, no thanks i'll pay for that, free is too cheap and i dont want to sound cheap!! couldn't possible admit that PSN has lag free online gameplay with a community that is building by the day.
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="Lidve"]

And than u complain when u have to pay for WOW...

U can play WOW 24/7for whole month for same price of..lets say one movie ticket.And movie is like 3 hours long.

Lidve

Live is a much better deal than WoW. Can you honestly be comparing these two?

Yes,they are both pay 2 enjoy.

Yes, of course. However, you feel paying a possible 15$ a month is equal to paying 5$ a month for as many games as the 360 has? *musicalmac does not.
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#36 PimpiNbananas
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For those ppl still complaining I just thought you should know that in my country Xbox Live is $120 /year
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I don't mind paying for what i get. $50/1 year of play isn't much for virtually lag free online gaming. Only game i've basically ever gotten lag in is TF2...and that's because of Valve and their lackluster coding. Hell, even TF2's searching doesn't detect all the games everytime. Sometimes you'll get 5 games and then you'll back out and do it again and you'll get 20. That's Valves fault though. I don't get lag very much in TF2 anymore since the update...but it's still there every so often.

It's a small price for what you get (providing you have even the slightest source of income). They will lower/drop the price eventually too no doubt.

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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="Lidve"]

And than u complain when u have to pay for WOW...

U can play WOW 24/7for whole month for same price of..lets say one movie ticket.And movie is like 3 hours long.

Lidve

Live is a much better deal than WoW. Can you honestly be comparing these two?

Yes,they are both pay 2 enjoy.

No, just no.

One is a yearly charge of $50 and supports every Xbox Live game with virtuallyzero lag.The other is $75 for 6 months of play and it's WoW only.

They're not comparable.

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You bought all that for 5 measly bucks? How much do cigarettes cost in the states these days? (You are from the US right?) No wonder Americans are so unhealthy. In Canada you'd be lucky to pay $10 for a pack of smokes by themselves.
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#40 Hewkii
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They will lower/drop the price eventually too no doubt.

Puckhog04

yeah, that's a good idea. lose a potential cashcow when people are willing to pay for it.

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#41 voxware00
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its worth it in terms of

if the 360 is your only console that has an online connection

yeah maybe, especially if you dont buy new games often(or old ones you havent played before)

in terms of what it REALLY brings you, other than "unlocking" online

hell no ... absolutely no value

for 5$... yeah you can play the games youve played to death... now online!

or.. you can start buying some used xbox games that you never supported when they needed you (ie pdo, phantom dust, psyconauts)

but stellar example using smoking to prove how much of a great value live is..

now thats really desperate when you have to start making such claims to defend getting milked

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#42 GIJames248
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It's not the money, it's the principle. P2P should be free.manningbowl135

Exactly.

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#43 Blue-Sky
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[QUOTE="manningbowl135"]It's not the money, it's the principle. P2P should be free.GIJames248

Exactly.

You're right. However, boycotting the service due to price does not justify the principle. In fact, its hypocritical. Not paying for XBL simply because you feel you're being ripped off (although understandable) is no different from countless overprice products on the market today.

i.e. the pack of cigarettes I bought is probably worth a fraction of the amount I paid for. I shouldn't have to pay that muchbut I want them. Just like I want to play Halo online. I have no choice but to comform. Life sucks that way...