I want you guys to name 5 things that GT5 has over Forza 3.

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#1 Meltedweasel
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Things that don't count: Graphics(we already know, PGR4 even looks better than Forza), amount of cars(1000 isn't impressive if they have a bunch of clones and basics in the collection). That's about it. I'm sure it shouldn't be hard but I want to know some of its features that make it soo much better.
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#2 15strong
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I could really care less about this, but why don't those count?

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#3 AdamPA1006
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Things that don't count: Graphics(we already know, PGR4 even looks better than Forza), amount of cars(1000 isn't impressive if they have a bunch of clones and basics in the collection). That's about it. I'm sure it shouldn't be hard but I want to know some of its features that make it soo much better.Meltedweasel
Um what does Forza have better??
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#4 Meltedweasel
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[QUOTE="Meltedweasel"]Things that don't count: Graphics(we already know, PGR4 even looks better than Forza), amount of cars(1000 isn't impressive if they have a bunch of clones and basics in the collection). That's about it. I'm sure it shouldn't be hard but I want to know some of its features that make it soo much better.AdamPA1006
Um what does Forza have better??

I don't know a thing about Forza, nice try though.
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#5 Meltedweasel
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I could really care less about this, but why don't those count?

15strong
...because I mentioned them already? I already told you why? You COULDN'T care less.
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#6 vaderhater
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[QUOTE="Meltedweasel"]Things that don't count: Graphics(we already know, PGR4 even looks better than Forza), amount of cars(1000 isn't impressive if they have a bunch of clones and basics in the collection). That's about it. I'm sure it shouldn't be hard but I want to know some of its features that make it soo much better.AdamPA1006
Um what does Forza have better??

A release date.....

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#7 Ribnarak
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idk :S

id have to go with graphics and overall set up of the game (this being from past gt games (gt4)

let me start off:
1) more racers in game. online.

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#8 POPEYE1716
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Why do we keep talking about this?:cry:

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[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"][QUOTE="Meltedweasel"]Things that don't count: Graphics(we already know, PGR4 even looks better than Forza), amount of cars(1000 isn't impressive if they have a bunch of clones and basics in the collection). That's about it. I'm sure it shouldn't be hard but I want to know some of its features that make it soo much better.vaderhater

Um what does Forza have better??

A release date.....

2010

  1. Superior Graphics
  2. 600 more vehicles
  3. Nascar and Rally
  4. Weather effects and night races
  5. GT TV

:)

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#10 campzor
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more tracks that youtube uploading feature i read about more cars on track thats 3...
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#11 DJ_Lae
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Why don't those count? Five things: -Graphics -Number of cars -Oil changes -Car washes -Pit crew
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#12 vaderhater
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[QUOTE="vaderhater"]

[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"] Um what does Forza have better??jakehouston88

A release date.....

2010

  1. Superior Graphics
  2. 600 more vehicles
  3. Nascar and Rally
  4. Weather effects and night races
  5. GT TV

:)

Solid NA release date:)

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  1. Better Gameplay
  2. More people will be online
  3. More tracks
  4. Nascar!
  5. Its Gran Turismo
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#14 Meltedweasel
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I already SAID why they don't count. If I already mentioned those things, then I already know about em ok? See so far you guys can't come up with anything worth mentioning.
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#15 zarshack
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I dont really care very much about this arguement but it seems rather ignorant of you to pose this question when GT5 has more then twice the amount of cars as forza 3.

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#16 Kenbo325
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Framerate?

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Why don't those count? Five things: -Graphics -Number of cars -Oil changes -Car washes -Pit crewDJ_Lae

You're joking when you try to pass off oil changes and car washes as advantages, you have to be. I suppose the next thing poly will add is birds flying over and pooping on the windshield and people will say it's an advantage....

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#19 zarshack
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I already SAID why they don't count. If I already mentioned those things, then I already know about em ok? See so far you guys can't come up with anything worth mentioning.Meltedweasel
SO you basicly just said. tell me what is better about the game besides the numerous things which i already know are better about it, if you cant then the game obviously doesnt have extra things... Get out now.

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#20 campzor
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I already SAID why they don't count. If I already mentioned those things, then I already know about em ok? See so far you guys can't come up with anything worth mentioning.Meltedweasel
i did u just ignored em.
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#21 MizFitAwesome
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  1. Better Gameplay
  2. More people will be online
  3. More tracks
  4. Nascar!
  5. Its Gran Turismo

heylokbing

how about something static and not speculation...

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[QUOTE="Meltedweasel"]I already SAID why they don't count. If I already mentioned those things, then I already know about em ok? See so far you guys can't come up with anything worth mentioning.zarshack

SO you basicly just said. tell me what is better about the game besides the numerous things which i already know are better about it, if you cant then the game obviously doesnt have extra things... Get out now.

If you know so many things, then why don't you list them buddy? I mean, it's so funny how you guys think I'm some how supporting Forza 3. The mighty GT5 is soooo much better than the competition yet you guys don't know why?
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#23 DJ_Lae
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[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]Why don't those count? Five things: -Graphics -Number of cars -Oil changes -Car washes -Pit crewMizFitAwesome

You're joking when you try to pass off oil changes and car washes as advantages, you have to be. I suppose the next thing poly will add is birds flying over and pooping on the windshield and people will say it's an advantage....

I am joking. I can't believe they still bother with oil changes and carwashes when you can't even change the colour of your cars without buying a new one.
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#24 asylumni
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[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"][QUOTE="Meltedweasel"]Things that don't count: Graphics(we already know, PGR4 even looks better than Forza), amount of cars(1000 isn't impressive if they have a bunch of clones and basics in the collection). That's about it. I'm sure it shouldn't be hard but I want to know some of its features that make it soo much better.Meltedweasel
Um what does Forza have better??

I don't know a thing about Forza, nice try though.

So we could just say any 5 things and you would just believe us?

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[QUOTE="Meltedweasel"][QUOTE="AdamPA1006"] Um what does Forza have better??asylumni

I don't know a thing about Forza, nice try though.

So we could just say any 5 things and you would just believe us?

It depends how stupid they sound.
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1. Lighting
2. Replay imaging
3. Photo mode
4. Youtube uploading
5. ...

Not exactly the most convincing list.

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5 is greater than 3. That's all I got.
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#28 asylumni
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I suppose the next thing poly will add is birds flying over and pooping on the windshield and people will say it's an advantage....

MizFitAwesome

Yeah, we wish...

That would be AWESOME!!

Ok, I'm done, now.

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#29 whatisazerg
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[QUOTE="vaderhater"]

[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"] Um what does Forza have better??jakehouston88

A release date.....

2010

  1. Superior Graphics
  2. 600 more vehicles
  3. Nascar and Rally
  4. Weather effects and night races
  5. GT TV

:)

I'll give you #1, #3 & #4....

but #2.... really.... most of those extra 600 cars are ever so slightly different versions of another car.... I don't know where the list is now... but I remember seeing the list and there are, in many cases, approx. 10 cars that are almost identical... Also... Turn 10 doesn't bother with putting crappy cars in the game that no one would want to be seen driving in real life.

#5..... I believe Forza3 has something very similar to the GT TV thingy.... sharing vids and what not.

Forza on the other hand has...

#1 more tracks

#2 livery design

#3 vehicle damage amongst all its cars

#4 Porsche

#5 Auction House + many other INNOVATIVE online features never b4 seen in a game like this.

#6 Better physics... as far as we know, but hard to judge til both games are on store shelves.

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#30 masiisam
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It would be nice if GT sported real time telemetry....

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[QUOTE="asylumni"]

So we could just say any 5 things and you would just believe us?

Meltedweasel

It depends how stupid they sound.

In that case, I'll give it a shot.

1) Better lighting

2) Youtube uploads

3) Better visual representation of car movement (small bumps, wieght transfers, etc. are more noticebly depicted)

4) Support for a wheel designed for the game that allows on-the-fly adjustments of the cars mechanics

5) GT TV

6) NASCAR!

7) Top Gear test track

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#32 vaderhater
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It would be nice if GT sported real time telemetry....

masiisam

Give them time.......They already played some FM3 and went from "we can release at any time now" to OMG 2010 sometime in NA!!!

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I don't know where the list is now... but I remember seeing the list and there are, in many cases, approx. 10 cars that are almost identical...whatisazerg

http://www.gtplanet.net/gt4/car_list/get_cars.php

170 cars will be "new" to GT5, while the other 830 will be upgrades from GT4. There are, over 50 R34 Skylines in GT4. Its the same exact car, changed merely by model year, slight differences associated with real-world counterparts (i.e. the V-Spec II Nur was a car tested and tuned on the Nurburgring), available colours and some racing versions.

I don't think the "1000 cars" argument is very sound, given that the highest rated iteration in the series (GT3) had the second least amount of cars (175 to the original GT's 170).

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#34 linkin_guy109
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4 previous sequals instead of 2

brand name, like it or not, brand names sell, just like halo gran turismo has a large following

thats all i got without sounding like a fanboy

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#35 Rza_rectah
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More cars

better graphics

more tracks

more content

day/night

weather

shall I continue?

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[QUOTE="Meltedweasel"]Things that don't count: Graphics(we already know, PGR4 even looks better than Forza), amount of cars(1000 isn't impressive if they have a bunch of clones and basics in the collection). That's about it. I'm sure it shouldn't be hard but I want to know some of its features that make it soo much better.AdamPA1006
Um what does Forza have better??

Damage modeling for one and online play. GT online has always been non-existent or not polished but that could change.

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#37 foxhound_fox
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More cars

better graphics

more tracks

more content

day/night

weather

shall I continue?

Rza_rectah


more =/= better
that has yet to be determined
Forza 3 has 100, GT5 is going to have 70
debatable
not confirmed
not confirmed
yes, please continue

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#38 0rin
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1. NASCAR 2. Rally 3. Day/night cycles, and weather effects 4. 16 players online (maybe more in NASCAR) 5. Youtube uploading 6. GT TV 7. Hybrids (don't think FM3 has these, they opted for SUV's, lol.) 8. Arguably a better choice of steering wheel perreferals 9. More tracks (correct me if I'm wrong) 10. PS3's first exclusive Racing simulator.. for what that is worth. now, don't get me wrong, Forza 3 has a good number of cool thing that GT5 won't (or isn't currently saying they will) have. like the livery editor (awesome) full rollover, that rewind feature (I don't like it, but its neat) and ... well.. whatever, a few other things I'm sure. at any rate, FM3 is coming out first, so I'd hold any speculation on GT5 for now. they have 6 months to work on it. My guess is they are saving some features for later.
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I'll give you #1, #3 & #4....

but #2.... really.... most of those extra 600 cars are ever so slightly different versions of another car.... I don't know where the list is now... but I remember seeing the list and there are, in many cases, approx. 10 cars that are almost identical... Also... Turn 10 doesn't bother with putting crappy cars in the game that no one would want to be seen driving in real life.

#5..... I believe Forza3 has something very similar to the GT TV thingy.... sharing vids and what not.

Forza on the other hand has...

#1 more tracks

#2 livery design

#3 vehicle damage amongst all its cars

#4 Porsche

#5 Auction House + many other INNOVATIVE online features never b4 seen in a game like this.

#6 Better physics... as far as we know, but hard to judge til both games are on store shelves.whatisazerg

#1. Since GT5 has 6 more months, it could change

#2. GT5 also has a livery editor

#3. It's been confirmed GT5 will have damage on all cars

#4. I think GT5 will have their own exclusive cars

#5. (look below)

#6. Debatable, but from the recent videos I seen earlier this month, GT5 has a better physics engine but I'd still wait 'til it comes out

GT5 features

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When did everyone on here become Nascar fans? I have for years seen very few of us on here, but now suddenly you all like it eh?

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#41 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"]

More cars

better graphics

more tracks

more content

day/night

weather

shall I continue?

foxhound_fox


more =/= better
that has yet to be determined
Forza 3 has 100, GT5 is going to have 70
debatable
not confirmed
not confirmed
yes, please continue

who said any thing about better

its still more cars which forza doesnt have.

from what I seen GT 5 has way better car models

maybe forza might take thatone

more content WRC/ NASCAR/GTTV/Youtube

more cars on the track Your really making start to hate the show reboot and i loved that show.

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#42 whatisazerg
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When did everyone on here become Nascar fans? I have for years seen very few of us on here, but now suddenly you all like it eh?

shawn7324

not me.... Nascar sucks.... hooray for driving in an oval for 200 laps..... Oh the fun! :roll:

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#43 SilverChimera
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1. Nascar 2. Rally 3. Youtube thing 4. more cars on track 5. weather
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#44 Rza_rectah
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When did everyone on here become Nascar fans? I have for years seen very few of us on here, but now suddenly you all like it eh?

shawn7324
its always good to have more content even if your never going to play it.
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#45 shawn7324
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[QUOTE="shawn7324"]

When did everyone on here become Nascar fans? I have for years seen very few of us on here, but now suddenly you all like it eh?

whatisazerg

not me.... Nascar sucks.... hooray for driving in an oval for 200 laps..... Oh the fun! :roll:

That is what I'm used to seeing from nearly everyone, however now things have changed & Gran Turismo fans love it. So who's ready for Dover?
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#46 Meltedweasel
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Out of the things mentioned so far, this is what I think GT5 actually has over Forza 3 and I'm going to assume Forza 3 does not have any of these things since you guys listed them: 1. Weather - I'm quite interested to see how realistic the rain is going to look since the cars look so great. Would be nice to see how the cars look with water drops all over em. 2. Youtube integration - Sounds promising, I would love to see how it turns out. Depending on the simplicity and quickness. If it gives me headaches, then it's not good. 3. Rally - I love Rallisport, and so far my favorite racing game of all time is Rallisport Challenge 2, it was an Xbox exclusive but not compatible with 360 even though the first one is. It was probably the best looking racer of last gen. So far, that's that. I want you guys to keep this going since I really am interested in the game.
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#47 asylumni
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When did everyone on here become Nascar fans? I have for years seen very few of us on here, but now suddenly you all like it eh?

shawn7324

I'll admit, I just recently got into it. A couple years ago, my brother happened upon a few tickets and took me to a race in Michigan. That got me.

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#48 munu9
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1) Graphics 2) Seniority =P 3) # of cars 4) attention to detail 5) did I mention graphics?
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#49 foxhound_fox
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who said any thing about better

its still more cars which forza doesnt have.

from what I seen GT 5 has way better car models

maybe forza might take thatone

more content WRC/ NASCAR/GTTV/Youtube

more cars on the track Your really making start to hate the show reboot and i loved that show.

Rza_rectah


This thread is all about "better." I'd rather have more variety of cars than just a bunch of copies of the same car. Since most of the ones in GT5 are straight out of GT5, that means there is 170 new ones.

GT5 isn't out yet, nor has a demo. All that has been shown is pre-rendered cinematics (probably laced with touch-up CGI) and blatant bullshots.

Forza has V8/Le Mans and other forms of racing. Having brand-name racing means nothing if the integration is ****. Why use NASCAR if you can't put 40 unique cars on a track to properly recreate the NASCAR experience?

Less smart cars >>> more dumb cars. If GT5's AI is nothing but a bunch of dumb road-blocks, it will be a hindrance and detriment to the experience. And more cars online opens the door for more dumbasses online... which if the damage model and physical model aren't significantly overhauled from previous iterations, then it'll be an even worse experience with more cars on track. I hear GT5P's online is absolute garbage.

ReBoot is awesome. Just because you don't share my stance on these things, doesn't mean you can't love the show any less. I'm being realistic and looking at the facts here. You are looking through your rose-tinted racing goggles and thinking Polyphony is better than they are.

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#50 shawn7324
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When did everyone on here become Nascar fans? I have for years seen very few of us on here, but now suddenly you all like it eh?

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its always good to have more content even if your never going to play it.

Really, how about don't mention something about the game of your choice that you clearly hate? That makes more sense to me.