I wish all games were made with as much care, dedication, and effort as SW:TFU.

If you've been following the developer interviews and dev diaries, and if you've seen the post-mortem interview that was put up with the review, you'd know that the devs really wanted to please fans with addictive gameplay using over the top powers, and a compelling story.

They spent a year building the concept for this game, and years meshing the different technologies (Euphoria, DMM, Havok) together to form fluid gameplay that wasn't just a tech demo, but had art and style. If you played the demo, you know that they achieved this.

Reviews are a fickle thing. Taking a game, dissecting it, breaking it's wholeness into pieces and criticising them individually lead to misleading conclusions. I know that a game with this much heart poured into it's development can't be a bad game. Maybe it's not going to be as legendary as the KOTOR experience, but this SW game is one you have to pick up.

Support the devs, enjoy a new and exciting Star Wars tale, and buy this game.

Here's hoping for a sequel. Or at least another new star wars with the same concept, but improved upon with added gameplay twists and such. Not anytime soon though. These guys took their time and I'm glad they did.

Go buy the game.

dude im buying this game regardless. i played the demo and i loved it! it got a 7.5 here on gs and a 7.3 on ign. thats good enough for me and this apparently has one of the best star wars stories! thats an instant win for me!

although the concept may be cool from the tech demos the ign reviews did say that the technology seems bit too far ahead of our time and its use in the game isnt as good or promising as the tech demos once showed us.

never the less im getting it :)

Wow, so you mean to tell me that the devs interviews and dev diaries said that they really did a good job on their OWN piece of work? Wow, what a concept that is to say that you worked really hard to please the fans on something you worked on...

If you've been following the developer interviews and dev diaries, and if you've seen the post-mortem interview that was put up with the review, you'd know that the devs really wanted to please fans with addictive gameplay using over the top powers, and a compelling story.

They spent a year building the concept for this game, and years meshing the different technologies (Euphoria, DMM, Havok) together to form fluid gameplay that wasn't just a tech demo, but had art and style. If you played the demo, you know that they achieved this.

Reviews are a fickle thing. Taking a game, dissecting it, breaking it's wholeness into pieces and criticising them individually lead to misleading conclusions. I know that a game with this much heart poured into it's development can't be a bad game. Maybe it's not going to be as legendary as the KOTOR experience, but this SW game is one you have to pick up.

Support the devs, enjoy a new and exciting Star Wars tale, and buy this game.

Here's hoping for a sequel. Or at least another new star wars with the same concept, but improved upon with added gameplay twists and such. Not anytime soon though. These guys took their time and I'm glad they did.

Go buy the game.

deluxemando

I guess this is the damage control post that follows any poorly reviewed game with any media attention.Hewkii

Lol you think you're clever. This is a multiplat game; everyone gets the same quality. So how could there possibly be damage control? Also, this isn't just a game with "any media attention", it's star wars, heavily influenced by lucas himself. Finally, 7.5 is not a score to 'damage control' over. It's a solid score. It's not like I'm defending a 5.5. People like you make system wars what it is; hilarious.

I guess this is the damage control post that follows any poorly reviewed game with any media attention.Hewkii

Damage control for who? the game is multiplat.

Wow, so you mean to tell me that the devs interviews and dev diaries said that they really did a good job on their OWN piece of work? Wow, what a concept that is to say that you worked really hard to please the fans on something you worked on...

[QUOTE="deluxemando"]

If you've been following the developer interviews and dev diaries, and if you've seen the post-mortem interview that was put up with the review, you'd know that the devs really wanted to please fans with addictive gameplay using over the top powers, and a compelling story.

They spent a year building the concept for this game, and years meshing the different technologies (Euphoria, DMM, Havok) together to form fluid gameplay that wasn't just a tech demo, but had art and style. If you played the demo, you know that they achieved this.

Reviews are a fickle thing. Taking a game, dissecting it, breaking it's wholeness into pieces and criticising them individually lead to misleading conclusions. I know that a game with this much heart poured into it's development can't be a bad game. Maybe it's not going to be as legendary as the KOTOR experience, but this SW game is one you have to pick up.

Support the devs, enjoy a new and exciting Star Wars tale, and buy this game.

Here's hoping for a sequel. Or at least another new star wars with the same concept, but improved upon with added gameplay twists and such. Not anytime soon though. These guys took their time and I'm glad they did.

Go buy the game.

feryl06

You have to watch the vids to understand what I'm talking about. They could have whipped out some crummy star wars game and watch the sales go just on the name star wars itself. Instead they made a quality title and you should support their effort.

7.5 - Flop. Consolites got owned.

You have to watch the vids to understand what I'm talking about. They could have whipped out some crummy star wars game and watch the sales go just on the name star wars itself. Instead they made a quality title and you should support their effort.

deluxemando

Release it on the PC and i will buy it. But i am not spending £40-50 on the PS3 as it stands.

I've been playing the game all weekend......the review is spot on. There were a whole host of glitches and poor design. It was almost like this game was rushed to retail. It had a ton of potential but it lacked the polish to be a great game. I have not beat the game yet but so far the story is pretty good. The biggest issue I had was targeting items.....if they would have just worked out a manual way to target something the game would have been much more fun. Oh and the graphics sometimes are down right laughable. The fact that the cut scenes look like a dubbed movie.....why the heck couldn't they at least attempt to make the the lips match the words coming out? It looked like a foreign movie.

Overall the game is great if you like starwars......not sure if it is worth full retail price though (I got mine for free).

[QUOTE="Hewkii"]I guess this is the damage control post that follows any poorly reviewed game with any media attention.Khansoul

Damage control for who? the game is multiplat.

Star Wars fans?

If this is "CARE DEDICATION and EFFORT" than... :roll:

+ they deserved FLOP because of "caring" and "dedication to" their MOST LOYAL fans (PC gamers)

[QUOTE="Hewkii"]I guess this is the damage control post that follows any poorly reviewed game with any media attention.Khansoul

Damage control for who? the game is multiplat.

True but a lot of people hyped this game when it was demoed 2 years ago.......back then I thought this game was going to be amazing. After playing it......it's just average.

So that's 90% of all games released this year then? Face it, this game isn't anything special. It's just a shallow, generic beat-em-up. It wasn't made with any real dedication or care, there are Star Wars games made over 5 years ago that were better than this. Silent-Hal

Actually it is a lot of fun. The frustating parts where you are trying to target an item to throw it at people is where this game fails. The second boss in the game on the junk planet for instance......jesus that was frustrating as hell. Essentially you are put in a small mini council chamber......bacially you have to target debris from outside the room and throw it at the jedi master you are fighting to win. It was INSANE because it was so hard to target the debris in such a small space as the jedi master was pounding me every which way.

But like the review said when you get into wide open spaces......look out, I've never had more fun in a starwars game. Everyone should at least rent it because the postives definetly outweight the negatives. Heck if you people can stand Ninja Gaiden's poor camera this should be right up your alley.

dude im buying this game regardless. i played the demo and i loved it! it got a 7.5 here on gs and a 7.3 on ign. thats good enough for me and this apparently has one of the best star wars stories! thats an instant win for me!

although the concept may be cool from the tech demos the ign reviews did say that the technology seems bit too far ahead of our time and its use in the game isnt as good or promising as the tech demos once showed us.

never the less im getting it :)

superjim42

Have you even ever heard of KOTOR?

dude im buying this game regardless. i played the demo and i loved it! it got a 7.5 here on gs and a 7.3 on ign. thats good enough for me and this apparently has one of the best star wars stories! thats an instant win for me!

although the concept may be cool from the tech demos the ign reviews did say that the technology seems bit too far ahead of our time and its use in the game isnt as good or promising as the tech demos once showed us.

never the less im getting it :)

superjim42

Starkiller's entry on Star Wars open-source encyclopedia Wookiepedia reads like bad fanfiction. Of course, it's also massive spoilers.

I'm sure the team poured a ton of effort on the technology side to make Force Unleashed work properly, and it seems like a pretty cool game. But there are a lot of other quality titles coming out this fall, some of which seem like they will be more polished from beginning to end than TFU.

The sad truth is that most games are made by dedicated teams who pour a ton of effort and care into their titles. But that doesn't mean all of them are good. If I had been basing my purchase of Alone in the Dark off the developer diaries, I would have bought it in a second, but it turned out that team's ambitions overshot their ability to pull all the features they wanted into an interface that worked properly. This example isn't quite as extreme, but it's the same principle.

It would be great to support every development team that tried their best, but I'm not made of money.

[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"]So that's 90% of all games released this year then? Face it, this game isn't anything special. It's just a shallow, generic beat-em-up. It wasn't made with any real dedication or care, there are Star Wars games made over 5 years ago that were better than this. darthogre

Actually it is a lot of fun. The frustating parts where you are trying to target an item to throw it at people is where this game fails. The second boss in the game on the junk planet for instance......jesus that was frustrating as hell. Essentially you are put in a small mini council chamber......bacially you have to target debris from outside the room and throw it at the jedi master you are fighting to win. It was INSANE because it was so hard to target the debris in such a small space as the jedi master was pounding me every which way.

But like the review said when you get into wide open spaces......look out, I've never had more fun in a starwars game. Everyone should at least rent it because the postives definetly outweight the negatives. Heck if you people can stand Ninja Gaiden's poor camera this should be right up your alley.

I just finished the second boss. And I agree that the targeting is probably the weakest mechanic of the game.

But overall, I find the game highly enjoyable. I can see that great care and detail went into crafting the levels, the progression of the action and the pacing of the storyline.

You're right in that the good outweighs the bad. Any Star Wars fan will appreciate the game and I think anyone can really enjoy it.

It's a solid "Rent" in general. And a "Buy" for any Star Wars fan.

Go and play x-wing on pc (its old so you'll need dosbox or something) and then come back and tell me this game is any good.Bazfrag

I played both X-wing and Tie-fighter.......they are completely two different games so you can't compare them. But to answer your question, I enjoyed the Force Unleashed more overall but Tie-Fighter I must say was VERY addicting and fun because of the online. What's funny is my friend and I hacked the code to that game to make us Master's in the online leader boards. The problem was we increased our level so high that anytime someone beat us it made them instant masters lol.

Go and play x-wing on pc (its old so you'll need dosbox or something) and then come back and tell me this game is any good.Bazfrag

I did. And my opinion stands. Force Unleashed is a good game.

I just dont understand when people think only in extremes. If its not fantastic, then it must be the worst game in the world. There are, you know, whole spectrums of good and bad.

Force Unleashed skewes more toward good then it does bad.

No, its not perfect. But its faults dont detract from the game so much that its not enjoyable.

[QUOTE="deluxemando"]

You have to watch the vids to understand what I'm talking about. They could have whipped out some crummy star wars game and watch the sales go just on the name star wars itself. Instead they made a quality title and you should support their effort.

crozon

Release it on the PC and i will buy it. But i am not spending £40-50 on the PS3 as it stands.

QFT. Only when it's on the PC will I buy it. I have a wii but I'll be passing on it just like LA passed on it's PC fanbase.

but Tie-Fighter I must say was VERY addicting and fun because of the online.

darthogre

[QUOTE="Khansoul"]

[QUOTE="Hewkii"]I guess this is the damage control post that follows any poorly reviewed game with any media attention.darthogre

Damage control for who? the game is multiplat.

True but a lot of people hyped this game when it was demoed 2 years ago.......back then I thought this game was going to be amazing. After playing it......it's just average.

Ya, there has been a ton of hype for this game. It is damage control, damage control for a game someone had really high hopes for that kind of flopped.

[QUOTE="darthogre"]

but Tie-Fighter I must say was VERY addicting and fun because of the online.

Teufelhuhn

Don't Forget Xwing Alliance.. I don't understand why any one ever mentions this game, it was the newest Starwars space sim.. And it was a very good game.

If you've been following the developer interviews and dev diaries, and if you've seen the post-mortem interview that was put up with the review, you'd know that the devs really wanted to please fans with addictive gameplay using over the top powers, and a compelling story.

They spent a year building the concept for this game, and years meshing the different technologies (Euphoria, DMM, Havok) together to form fluid gameplay that wasn't just a tech demo, but had art and style. If you played the demo, you know that they achieved this.

Reviews are a fickle thing. Taking a game, dissecting it, breaking it's wholeness into pieces and criticising them individually lead to misleading conclusions. I know that a game with this much heart poured into it's development can't be a bad game. Maybe it's not going to be as legendary as the KOTOR experience, but this SW game is one you have to pick up.

Support the devs, enjoy a new and exciting Star Wars tale, and buy this game.

Here's hoping for a sequel. Or at least another new star wars with the same concept, but improved upon with added gameplay twists and such. Not anytime soon though. These guys took their time and I'm glad they did.

Go buy the game.

deluxemando

Too bad you can't decapitate/dismember enemies with your lightsaber.:x You'd think that on the newer systems they could've included a feature seen five years ago in Jedi Academy.

why does it matter how much time they spent if they still didn't get it right? it's like saying 'my mom spent 5 hours on this dinner, it doesn't matter that it tastes like crap'.

enemy AI has no fear of a DARK JEDI with a light sabre. they line up for the slaughter so to speak. levels are rehashed and used over and over again - the game only has 9 unique areas.

the protagonist is called 'starkiller'............. obviously the lovechild of the deathstar and the 2nd script for A New Hope. I get the inside joke, but it's still incredibly emo and lame.

this game had potential, but it fell short. sure it has some neat effects (just like the newer SW movies) - but it still kinda stinks on the whole.

why does it matter how much time they spent if they still didn't get it right? it's like saying 'my mom spent 5 hours on this dinner, it doesn't matter that it tastes like crap'.

enemy AI has no fear of a DARK JEDI with a light sabre. they line up for the slaughter so to speak. levels are rehashed and used over and over again - the game only has 9 unique areas.

the protagonist is called 'starkiller'............. obviously the lovechild of the deathstar and the 2nd script for A New Hope. I get the inside joke, but it's still incredibly emo and lame.

this game had potential, but it fell short. sure it has some neat effects (just like the newer SW movies) - but it still kinda stinks on the whole.

3picuri3

I agree with you but I am going to stick up for your mom. If your mom spent five hours making dinner even if it tastes like crap the time spent does matter.

Carry on....

Don't listen to reviews. Reviewers have biases just like every other person who ever existed.Zero5000X

[QUOTE="Bazfrag"]Go and play x-wing on pc (its old so you'll need dosbox or something) and then come back and tell me this game is any good.VoodooHak

I did. And my opinion stands. Force Unleashed is a good game.

I just dont understand when people think only in extremes. If its not fantastic, then it must be the worst game in the world. There are, you know, whole spectrums of good and bad.

Force Unleashed skewes more toward good then it does bad.

No, its not perfect. But its faults dont detract from the game so much that its not enjoyable.

This is a very good point, however there are a lot of gamers who will only purchase games that are fantastic and rent the rest. So yes, it may be enjoyable in spite of its flaws, but that still means a lot of people will only rent it.

I am personally still going to buy it. I am very excited for this game.

7.5 - Flop. Consolites got owned.

vlin1108

[QUOTE="darthogre"]

but Tie-Fighter I must say was VERY addicting and fun because of the online.

Teufelhuhn

That's the one. I remember Tiefigher was in the name though. I played all those sims games for starwars, those were really great games. I'm actually surprised no one has tried to do them on a console, you would think consoles could handle them by now.

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="darthogre"]

but Tie-Fighter I must say was VERY addicting and fun because of the online.

darthogre

That's the one. I remember Tiefigher was in the name though. I played all those sims games for starwars, those were really great games. I'm actually surprised no one has tried to do them on a console, you would think consoles could handle them by now.

It would really suck to play such a game with eitehr a DS3 or a 360 controller. I loved them, but you really needed a good joystick to play them right.

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

[QUOTE="Bazfrag"]Go and play x-wing on pc (its old so you'll need dosbox or something) and then come back and tell me this game is any good.Bulova

I did. And my opinion stands. Force Unleashed is a good game.

I just dont understand when people think only in extremes. If its not fantastic, then it must be the worst game in the world. There are, you know, whole spectrums of good and bad.

Force Unleashed skewes more toward good then it does bad.

No, its not perfect. But its faults dont detract from the game so much that its not enjoyable.

This is a very good point, however there are a lot of gamers who will only purchase games that are fantastic and rent the rest. So yes, it may be enjoyable in spite of its flaws, but that still means a lot of people will only rent it.

I am personally still going to buy it. I am very excited for this game.

Renting is fine. In the least, renters will still get a chance to experience the game. I'm just afraid that those that pass up the game entirely are going to miss out.

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

why does it matter how much time they spent if they still didn't get it right? it's like saying 'my mom spent 5 hours on this dinner, it doesn't matter that it tastes like crap'.

enemy AI has no fear of a DARK JEDI with a light sabre. they line up for the slaughter so to speak. levels are rehashed and used over and over again - the game only has 9 unique areas.

the protagonist is called 'starkiller'............. obviously the lovechild of the deathstar and the 2nd script for A New Hope. I get the inside joke, but it's still incredibly emo and lame.

this game had potential, but it fell short. sure it has some neat effects (just like the newer SW movies) - but it still kinda stinks on the whole.

Coyo7e

I agree with you but I am going to stick up for your mom. If your mom spent five hours making dinner even if it tastes like crap the time spent does matter.

Carry on....

hehe. fair enough. to be honest i wouldn't have the heart to tell her it was bad :)

[QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="darthogre"]

but Tie-Fighter I must say was VERY addicting and fun because of the online.

NielsNL

That's the one. I remember Tiefigher was in the name though. I played all those sims games for starwars, those were really great games. I'm actually surprised no one has tried to do them on a console, you would think consoles could handle them by now.

Yeah I had top gun controller flight stick, it was perfect for me. A regular controller wouldn't be as much fun, so you're right in that respect. Maybe it comes with its own controller? Heck I'll buy it even if I have to pay extra for the controller.

It would really suck to play such a game with eitehr a DS3 or a 360 controller. I loved them, but you really needed a good joystick to play them right.

Yeah you are right....I think I had the top gun flight controller if memory serves me right. If they could include a flight controller with the game, I would buy it (as long as the game was of quality)

[QUOTE="NielsNL"][QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="darthogre"]

but Tie-Fighter I must say was VERY addicting and fun because of the online.

darthogre

That's the one. I remember Tiefigher was in the name though. I played all those sims games for starwars, those were really great games. I'm actually surprised no one has tried to do them on a console, you would think consoles could handle them by now.

Yeah I had top gun controller flight stick, it was perfect for me. A regular controller wouldn't be as much fun, so you're right in that respect. Maybe it comes with its own controller? Heck I'll buy it even if I have to pay extra for the controller.

It would really suck to play such a game with eitehr a DS3 or a 360 controller. I loved them, but you really needed a good joystick to play them right.

Well.. it should be a damn good game for me to get an extra controller especially for it. Would also depend on the price of the controller I guess. But I do totally agree that it would truly roch o have a new Tie fighter iteration. Just like Wing Commander by the way. Same genre, same quality, i also loved that.