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#1 Salt_The_Fries
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another such good 1st party as Turn 10, only in different genre(s).

Who's with me?

Considering such small amount of 1st parties for Microsoft, it's almost unreal to think that they have someone that good.

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another such good 1st party as Turn 10, only in different genre(s).

Who's with me?

Considering such small amount of 1st parties for Microsoft, it's almost unreal to think that they have someone that good.

Salt_The_Fries

i wish M$ would respect the gaming industry instead of trying to monopollize it by buying out excluisves, rely primarily on profiting off Live and dlc and having little to do with 1st party support

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#3 clyde46
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[QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"]

another such good 1st party as Turn 10, only in different genre(s).

Who's with me?

Considering such small amount of 1st parties for Microsoft, it's almost unreal to think that they have someone that good.

-snorlax-

i wish M$ would respect the gaming industry instead of trying to monopollize it by buying out excluisves, rely primarily on profiting off Live and dlc and having little to do with 1st party support

This, I think MS is starting to hurt now, since devs are begining to grasp the ps3's hardware so multiplat games are becoming equal on both machines. The balance is swinging away from MS i think.
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#4 Sully28
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[QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"]

another such good 1st party as Turn 10, only in different genre(s).

Who's with me?

Considering such small amount of 1st parties for Microsoft, it's almost unreal to think that they have someone that good.

-snorlax-

i wish M$ would respect the gaming industry instead of trying to monopollize it by buying out excluisves, rely primarily on profiting off Live and dlc and having little to do with 1st party support

The game industry isnt the same as the computer industry and microsoft hasnt recognized this yet. They get good dlc, good XBLA games, and multiplates but their excluisves arent anything to brag about. Sony has it down on what makes a console good, and that is great first party games, excelent downloadable games, and still keeping multiplates.

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#5 nhl0994
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microsoft is just milking out the halo series, what other great exclusive do they have in their future?
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#6 SolidTy
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Unfortunately, it doesn't matter what we think of M$ shrinking 1st party support and devs, because the masses just care about the multiplats, and that's all that's really needed.

The Hardcore's are satified with the Exclusive DLC/Timed Multiplat Exclusives.

If M$ didn't use their money for DLC/Timed Multiplats, then we would see more money going towards first party, but that wasn't working out so well.

It's a different strategy, and besides, we already bought our 360's, this plan is to win over NEW customers, and it's working.

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microsoft is just milking out the halo series, what other great exclusive do they have in their future?nhl0994
How are the milking halo?
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who thought MS had creativity??? last time i checked they only had a lot of money to throw around to get ppl onboard with the console MS has always been this way and its why there isnt much in the exclusive pipeline unless they stumble apon another hit like the did with bungie

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who thought MS had creativity??? last time i checked they only had a lot of money to throw around to get ppl onboard with the console MS has always been this way and its why there isnt much in the exclusive pipeline unless they stumble apon another hit like the did with bungie

yonnex
Ok, how is Sony creative? They did/do the same thing.
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#10 aflakian
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[QUOTE="nhl0994"]microsoft is just milking out the halo series, what other great exclusive do they have in their future?pyromaniac223
How are the milking halo?



Even though it's their mainstay franchise, they've actually done a decent job of not exploiting its popularity/appeal.
It's one of those rare cases where MS takes strides to ensure that quality takes precedence over all else.

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[QUOTE="yonnex"]

who thought MS had creativity??? last time i checked they only had a lot of money to throw around to get ppl onboard with the console MS has always been this way and its why there isnt much in the exclusive pipeline unless they stumble apon another hit like the did with bungie

xsubtownerx
Ok, how is Sony creative? They did/do the same thing.

Except they took their internal gaming division seriously and actually contributed alongside 3rd parties which gives me the impression theyre here for the long term, and not just a rich passer by looking to make a quick buck.
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#12 yonnex
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sony has alot more quality first party titles then microsoft seriously what has microsoft done apart from pay out bungie studios and sign a contract with epic? and $$$$$ for DLC

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They had to make sure their brand is relevant when videogames are mentioned, that was their strategy from the beginning, third parties makes or brakes a console.

MS needed to be competitive and their first party were/are not as good as nintendo's or Sony's because MS weren't hiring console developers, what they are doing is great for them at the time being, they must establish their first party and hire some good talent that knows how to deal with console gamers demands, RARE, not so much, they need new blood for RARE to bring back their glory days.

Turn 10 is a developer for racing games so it's easy to attract any type of gamer.

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[QUOTE="-snorlax-"]

[QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"]

another such good 1st party as Turn 10, only in different genre(s).

Who's with me?

Considering such small amount of 1st parties for Microsoft, it's almost unreal to think that they have someone that good.

clyde46

i wish M$ would respect the gaming industry instead of trying to monopollize it by buying out excluisves, rely primarily on profiting off Live and dlc and having little to do with 1st party support

This, I think MS is starting to hurt now, since devs are begining to grasp the ps3's hardware so multiplat games are becoming equal on both machines. The balance is swinging away from MS i think.

Becoming equal works in favor of the cheaper machine it seems.
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[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="yonnex"]

who thought MS had creativity??? last time i checked they only had a lot of money to throw around to get ppl onboard with the console MS has always been this way and its why there isnt much in the exclusive pipeline unless they stumble apon another hit like the did with bungie

-snorlax-

Ok, how is Sony creative? They did/do the same thing.

Except they took their internal gaming division seriously and actually contributed alongside 3rd parties which gives me the impression theyre here for the long term, and not just a rich passer by looking to make a quick buck.

Yes, Sony took it seriously by buying any devs they could to keep those devs from producing for anyone sle. Heck if MS bought out as many devs as Sony did, everyone would be screaming. Sad part is all of Sony's devs seem to be unable to produce anything worth playing...

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[QUOTE="-snorlax-"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"] Ok, how is Sony creative? They did/do the same thing.AlphaGamer469

Except they took their internal gaming division seriously and actually contributed alongside 3rd parties which gives me the impression theyre here for the long term, and not just a rich passer by looking to make a quick buck.

Yes, Sony took it seriously by buying any devs they could to keep those devs from producing for anyone sle. Heck if MS bought out as many devs as Sony did, everyone would be screaming. Sad part is all of Sony's devs seem to be unable to produce anything worth playing...

It would be amazing if u could say that with a straight face.
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microsoft is just milking out the halo series, what other great exclusive do they have in their future?nhl0994
so a trilogy, expansion and spin off are milking, but 4 full mgs games and the numerous reeditions isnt millking
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[QUOTE="nhl0994"]microsoft is just milking out the halo series, what other great exclusive do they have in their future?-SAMCRO
so a trilogy, expansion and spin off are milking, but 4 full mgs games and the numerous reeditions isnt millking



The difference is that the MGS series is actually good.

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#19 yonnex
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[QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]

[QUOTE="-snorlax-"] Except they took their internal gaming division seriously and actually contributed alongside 3rd parties which gives me the impression theyre here for the long term, and not just a rich passer by looking to make a quick buck.-snorlax-

Yes, Sony took it seriously by buying any devs they could to keep those devs from producing for anyone sle. Heck if MS bought out as many devs as Sony did, everyone would be screaming. Sad part is all of Sony's devs seem to be unable to produce anything worth playing...

It would be amazing if u could say that with a straight face.

agreed

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[QUOTE="-SAMCRO"][QUOTE="nhl0994"]microsoft is just milking out the halo series, what other great exclusive do they have in their future?raynimrod

so a trilogy, expansion and spin off are milking, but 4 full mgs games and the numerous reeditions isnt millking



The difference is that the MGS series is actually good.

Halo was good too. They lost me as a fan after the Halo 2 cliffhanger.

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#21 -SAMCRO
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[QUOTE="-SAMCRO"][QUOTE="nhl0994"]microsoft is just milking out the halo series, what other great exclusive do they have in their future?raynimrod

so a trilogy, expansion and spin off are milking, but 4 full mgs games and the numerous reeditions isnt millking



The difference is that the MGS series is actually good.

although i rspect that you have your own opinion, the success of the halo franchise certainly places it in the "good" catergory

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[QUOTE="-snorlax-"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"] Ok, how is Sony creative? They did/do the same thing.AlphaGamer469

Except they took their internal gaming division seriously and actually contributed alongside 3rd parties which gives me the impression theyre here for the long term, and not just a rich passer by looking to make a quick buck.

Yes, Sony took it seriously by buying any devs they could to keep those devs from producing for anyone sle. Heck if MS bought out as many devs as Sony did, everyone would be screaming. Sad part is all of Sony's devs seem to be unable to produce anything worth playing...

What do you mean? Their devs have basically made all the quality titles on the PS3 thus far.
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[QUOTE="-SAMCRO"][QUOTE="nhl0994"]microsoft is just milking out the halo series, what other great exclusive do they have in their future?raynimrod

so a trilogy, expansion and spin off are milking, but 4 full mgs games and the numerous reeditions isnt millking



The difference is that the MGS series is actually good.

They're both good.

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[QUOTE="-snorlax-"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"] Ok, how is Sony creative? They did/do the same thing.AlphaGamer469

Except they took their internal gaming division seriously and actually contributed alongside 3rd parties which gives me the impression theyre here for the long term, and not just a rich passer by looking to make a quick buck.

Yes, Sony took it seriously by buying any devs they could to keep those devs from producing for anyone sle. Heck if MS bought out as many devs as Sony did, everyone would be screaming. Sad part is all of Sony's devs seem to be unable to produce anything worth playing...

What games are not worth playing? could you make a list?
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[QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]

[QUOTE="-snorlax-"] Except they took their internal gaming division seriously and actually contributed alongside 3rd parties which gives me the impression theyre here for the long term, and not just a rich passer by looking to make a quick buck.Zoso-8

Yes, Sony took it seriously by buying any devs they could to keep those devs from producing for anyone sle. Heck if MS bought out as many devs as Sony did, everyone would be screaming. Sad part is all of Sony's devs seem to be unable to produce anything worth playing...

What do you mean? Their devs have basically made all the quality titles on the PS3 thus far.

It's called being a fanboy I do love the response though. All fanboys seem to love the "if" clause. They all take so much ownage from what isn't or never was.


And I do wish they had a few more first party. I do think Sony may have taken it a bit excessively, since it has to be expensive to maintain that many studios, but oh well. I do like Rare and Lionhead, but you can only work those guys so hard to produce so many titles.

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[QUOTE="nhl0994"]microsoft is just milking out the halo series, what other great exclusive do they have in their future?pyromaniac223
How are the milking halo?

And that's just some of what's available now, nearing 2 years later, so no more soda, cereal, etc.

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#27 xsubtownerx
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[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="yonnex"]

who thought MS had creativity??? last time i checked they only had a lot of money to throw around to get ppl onboard with the console MS has always been this way and its why there isnt much in the exclusive pipeline unless they stumble apon another hit like the did with bungie

-snorlax-
Ok, how is Sony creative? They did/do the same thing.

Except they took their internal gaming division seriously and actually contributed alongside 3rd parties which gives me the impression theyre here for the long term, and not just a rich passer by looking to make a quick buck.

And how is that being creative? It's just another form of money usage.
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[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

[QUOTE="-SAMCRO"] so a trilogy, expansion and spin off are milking, but 4 full mgs games and the numerous reeditions isnt millkingpyromaniac223



The difference is that the MGS series is actually good.

They're both good.



The Halo series was horrible. Obviously this is all opinion, as was your comment :)

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[QUOTE="-snorlax-"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"] Ok, how is Sony creative? They did/do the same thing.xsubtownerx
Except they took their internal gaming division seriously and actually contributed alongside 3rd parties which gives me the impression theyre here for the long term, and not just a rich passer by looking to make a quick buck.

And how is that being creative? It's just another form of money usage.

Who said anything about being more creative? just compare Sonys first party to M$ first party and youll notice who has their priorities in order

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[QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"]

another such good 1st party as Turn 10, only in different genre(s).

Who's with me?

Considering such small amount of 1st parties for Microsoft, it's almost unreal to think that they have someone that good.

-snorlax-

i wish M$ would respect the gaming industry instead of trying to monopollize it by buying out excluisves, rely primarily on profiting off Live and dlc and having little to do with 1st party support

I am confused by the logic you expressed......At the end of the day exclusive (anything) are factors that constituent monopolizing industries. With that said... how did MS "disrespect" the gaming industry "if" they bought out previous exclusive titles? If anything MS opened the door so there is less monopolizing and more competition in the market... Games going multi-plat had more to do with the cost of developing than anything MS has done.

What you have said is completely backwards and does not make any sense in the content you provided.