id's comments about Rage on the 360 taken too far?

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#1 odin2019
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There has been 3 or maybe 4 different articles that come out about this in the last day or two. Who said this who said that. Anyway do you think its gotten out of hand? The guy comes out and says a couple of things and then there is 2 or 3 other articles about the guy saying he didnt' mean to say what he did. Its not like he insulted the 360 he just gave the facts as they were observed by him. What are your thoughts?
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#2 efrucht
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When you tell MS and their legions of followers the truth, expect a negative reaction. Nobody likes to hear that their system has flaws, especially from Id, these guys are like gods to gamers. If their statements circulated too much, MS would begin to feel repercussions, I think.
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#3 gamecubepad
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This man claimed the PS3s design makes it difficult for developers, but he pesevered and overcame that obstacle. Now he is taking on the next big technical challenge...strong-arming MS to drop royalty charges for a 3rd disc. One of those parties needs to give or I won't even consider getting Rage. There have been some great games that ship on 3 discs, even more sometimes.
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There has been 3 or maybe 4 different articles that come out about this in the last day or two. Who said this who said that. Anyway do you think its gotten out of hand? The guy comes out and says a couple of things and then there is 2 or 3 other articles about the guy saying he didnt' mean to say what he did. Its not like he insulted the 360 he just gave the facts as they were observed by him. What are your thoughts?odin2019
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When you tell MS and their legions of followers the truth, expect a negative reaction. Nobody likes to hear that their system has flaws, especially from Id, these guys are like gods to gamers. If their statements circulated too much, MS would begin to feel repercussions, I think.efrucht

Well he didnt actually say any content was removed. That was assumed by article writers based on the fact that they said they moved from five or six small areras to two largeones to better fit the two disk structure of the 360 version. So yes the game was changed because of the 360 but no content was removed. You cant say its backtracking damage control because he is not going back on his original statement at all. Of course its now a system wars fact and ill be posting this link for years to come.

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#6 SpruceCaboose
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Any time any developer says anything about a system that is anything less than high praise gets a heap of unwarranted press. But hey, free publicity for them, huh?
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[QUOTE="odin2019"]There has been 3 or maybe 4 different articles that come out about this in the last day or two. Who said this who said that. Anyway do you think its gotten out of hand? The guy comes out and says a couple of things and then there is 2 or 3 other articles about the guy saying he didnt' mean to say what he did. Its not like he insulted the 360 he just gave the facts as they were observed by him. What are your thoughts?Sony_Narutendo
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#8 67gt500
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They're not the only developers out there who have expressed concern about the limitations of DVD-9...
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#9 TOAO_Cyrus1
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From another forum but it kinda explains the whole situation well

Willits originally said: "I wouldn't say the overall story was changed in any way in order to fit on the Xbox 360 version...but how the player experiences Rage's story has been altered."

And by THAT, he meant (aka his clarification later):

"I had the story all written out, and we decided to make it into two acts, with a logical place in the middle where players will remove one disc and stick the other disc in, and they never have to load that other disc up,"elaborated Willits. "The story is constructed in such a way that I would be very sad if we had to make it fit into three discs, because where would you switch the disc if it's three and you had a two-act story?"

BUT OF COURSE, 1up felt it was better to interpret the original quote as:

"Unfortunately, that means the experience has been altered across all platforms. This is one of the first signs we've received of the 360's older DVD media showing its age, but we expect some fans won't be terribly pleased that it's affecting other versions of the game as well."

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#10 WilliamRLBaker
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Id hasn't made a good game in a long long time, and the last time rage was mentioned they said the 360 version wouldn't look as good as the ps3 or pc version, then it came out that it was exadgerated that it wouldn't look as good in places you'd never go, and never see like the inside of eye ball textures they just weren't that white. lol

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In other news: The current hardware limits the kind of graphical effects that can be utilized. *GASP* WHO WOULD HAVE KNOWN!
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#12 TOAO_Cyrus1
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Id hasn't made a good game in a long long time, and the last time rage was mentioned they said the 360 version wouldn't look as good as the ps3 or pc version, then it came out that it was exadgerated that it wouldn't look as good in places you'd never go, and never see like the inside of eye ball textures they just weren't that white. lol

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well yeah everyone knows the 360 version probably wont look as good but they didnt cut content.

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#13 Il_Exile_lI
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I think it was stupid of him to make it public that the game is different because of the 360, this has a real potential to hurt sales, and no one would have known had he said nothing.
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#14 TOAO_Cyrus1
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I think it was stupid of him to make it public that the game is different because of the 360, this has a real potential to hurt sales, and no one would have known had he said nothing.Il_Exile_lI

LOL no. Most people wont even hear about it and if the final game is great who cares? Anyway all that was changed was the story structure to fit two acts and they combined the planned five ot six smaller areas into two large ones. The other versions are in no way compromized by the 360 version just different. That kind of change happens all the time during game development.