If game resolution is such a big deal...

Why doesn't anyone notice games are sub HD before someone "confirms" a game may be sub HD? Surely we should notice straight away a game is sub 720p, as it is such an important issue?

May aswell quit console gaming and get a gaming rig for some true, true HD.

BTW, Alan Wake is confirmed 720p.
http://forum.alanwake.com/showpost.php?p=68521&postcount=10

"The game is 720p"

if you sit far away enough from the display then you may not notice subtle changes. But really the reason you dont notice is because unless you own a PC then you have nothing to compare the game to. The game would look better, but without a basis of comparison you wouldnt notice anyway.

The way people noticed in the first place is because the HUD was being displayed in a different resolution then the rest of the game.

in the case of the Alan Wake screenshot, upon seeing it people immediately reacted with "that looks blurry"

resolution adds a lot of sharpness, i play all of my PC games in high resolutions so when i play something that's not in those high resolutions you see it immediately

it's just a matter of being used to something, you notice it more, if you're used to see sharper games then when you see a sub-HD game you notice it immediately, if you're used to sub-HD then you don't notice anything out of the ordinary

Screenshots are downsized, and are rarely released at 1280×720 dimensions. Once you've downsized and compressed into a JPEG, you lose a bit of image quality.

if you sit far away enough from the display then you may not notice subtle changes. But really the reason you dont notice is because unless you own a PC then you have nothing to compare the game to. The game would look better, but without a basis of comparison you wouldnt notice anyway.

The way people noticed in the first place is because the HUD was being displayed in a different resolution then the rest of the game.

cobrax25

Damn, i thought the AW threads were slowing down for a second.FIipMode

For the most part, the only ones who care are the fanboys on each side trying to claim some sort of ownage. If you guys didn't pay so much attention to them then it wouldn't be big.

But you feed them, and they keep coming back.

This of course is a generalized post.

Wait, so the point of the thread was to point out resolution isn't a big deal yet you felt it necessary to point out what the Remedy CM said.

I don't get why it's such a big deal to console owners.

If you want all your games at 1080p you should own a PC, but since you don't you shouldn't complain.

It'd be like me complaining that the DS doesn't have good graphics. I mean if that's all I cared about I wouldn't have gotten the DS!

Like Chutebox said, it's all about the ownage. People will find new ways to spin things to favor them too if certain games are/aren't HD.

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]Damn, i thought the AW threads were slowing down for a second.SaltyMeatballs

If game resolution wasn't a big deal then people would be loving the Wii and would have accepted the iPod/Phone/Pad as a gaming device.

I completely agree. Resolution is such a stupid thing to argue over. Oh and people will just say your link means nothing, as it was just the community manager who said that.Anjunaddict

I notice, and to be honest, resolution has always been somewhat of a big deal for me. I remember playing Modern Warfare 2 on PS3 and wondering how it could possibly run at such a low res. Am I a snob? Sure. :P

For the most part, the only ones who care are the fanboys on each side trying to claim some sort of ownage. If you guys didn't pay so much attention to them then it wouldn't be big.

But you feed them, and they keep coming back.

This of course is a generalized post.

Wait, so the point of the thread was to point out resolution isn't a big deal yet you felt it necessary to point out what the Remedy CM said.

Chutebox

If game resolution wasn't a big deal then people would be loving the Wii and would have accepted the iPod/Phone/Pad as a gaming device.

LegatoSkyheart

I think the most important thing for console games is that the game runs at the native res. Playing a 540p game on a 720p TV is irksome to me, while playing a 720p native game on a 720p TV looks good, because it is running at the TV's native res.

Yeah, I have a PS3 and the only game I have on it is Demon's Souls. And it really does look pretty bad at such a low res. It runs at 720p and it's hard to really appreciate the textures, 3D models and animations when the whole screen is just a jagged mess. I really am disappointed.

Really, the consoles are only good for Blu-Ray, and the few decent exclusives you can't get on PC. GT5, I'm looking at you!

A lot of people do overplay its importance. Resolution that is. Personally, I'm more concerned about framerate than resolution.Skittles_McGee

Well yeah, you want to aim for 60 fps. I'll tone down eye candy to make sure I hit 60 fps.

A lot of people do overplay its importance. Resolution that is. Personally, I'm more concerned about framerate than resolution.Skittles_McGee

amen, as should anyone that actually likes games.

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]A lot of people do overplay its importance. Resolution that is. Personally, I'm more concerned about framerate than resolution.lespaul1919

amen, as should anyone that actually likes games.

I actually like games. Resolution is important to me. Combo breaker?

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]A lot of people do overplay its importance. Resolution that is. Personally, I'm more concerned about framerate than resolution.Domobomb

Well yeah, you want to aim for 60 fps. I'll tone down eye candy to make sure I hit 60 fps.

it's important, but not nearly as important as framerate.

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]A lot of people do overplay its importance. Resolution that is. Personally, I'm more concerned about framerate than resolution.psn8214

amen, as should anyone that actually likes games.

I actually like games. Resolution is important to me. Combo breaker?

[QUOTE="Domobomb"]

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]A lot of people do overplay its importance. Resolution that is. Personally, I'm more concerned about framerate than resolution.DJ_Headshot

Well yeah, you want to aim for 60 fps. I'll tone down eye candy to make sure I hit 60 fps.

Yes, by eye candy I meant in game settings. If I can't hit 60fps at 1080p on lowest settings, then it's time for an upgrade, imo.

[QUOTE="psn8214"]

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

amen, as should anyone that actually likes games.

SaltyMeatballs

I actually like games. Resolution is important to me. Combo breaker?

True... :P It's definitely not as big a deal on consoles, especially considering most TVs run at 720p native. As long as it's running at the native res, it looks good.

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

A lot of people do overplay its importance. Resolution that is. Personally, I'm more concerned about framerate than resolution.Skittles_McGee

amen, as should anyone that actually likes games.

I actually like games. Resolution is important to me. Combo breaker?

I notice, and to be honest, resolution has always been somewhat of a big deal for me. I remember playing Modern Warfare 2 on PS3 and wondering how it could possibly run at such a low res. Am I a snob? Sure. :P

psn8214

res is VERY important to anybody who plays on a PC

the difference in resolution isn't as noticeable on tv's, but on a monitor it's unforgiving, especially when high res just looks sooooooooooooooo good

it's just an excuse for haters to bash the game because they have no other ammo

It's only a big deal because it's a number. Usually when you argue about graphics all you can do is post pictures and say "I think this looks better than that", and anyone is free to disagree with you. But nobody can argue that 720 isn't bigger than 640p, or whatever. So people latch onto it and make it a big deal.

For the average gamer it probably doesn't mean anything. If I didn't have a gaming rig to compare it to, I probably wouldn't care either.

It's only a big deal because it's a number. Usually when you argue about graphics all you can do is post pictures and say "I think this looks better than that", and anyone is free to disagree with you. But nobody can argue that 720 isn't bigger than 640p, or whatever. So people latch onto it and make it a big deal.

Teufelhuhn

Well, resolution really is kind of a big deal.

in the case of the Alan Wake screenshot, upon seeing it people immediately reacted with "that looks blurry"

resolution adds a lot of sharpness, i play all of my PC games in high resolutions so when i play something that's not in those high resolutions you see it immediately

it's just a matter of being used to something, you notice it more, if you're used to see sharper games then when you see a sub-HD game you notice it immediately, if you're used to sub-HD then you don't notice anything out of the ordinary

88mphSlayer

In my opinion with these consoles right now and all the game coming out at or closer to 720p it is better to have a 720p TV if gaming is your main thing.

People tend to forget that no matter what you input into these tv's that the tv will scale the game or program to its (the TV's) native resolution. So yes if you do have a 1080p TV anything below that is scaled up to 1080p by whatever scaler chip is in the set. So it is best to not buy a cheap 1080p set because chances are the TV's scaler chip might be crap. Now I know if your watching a 1080p source like blu-ray you would be fine of course but these are games we are talking about here.

So really to go against a game which may be a little lower rez than 720p is silly because really lets not forget that for many console gamers a game that is at 720p has got to get scaled up quite a bit more on a 1080p set leaving you at the mercy of how good your TV set can scale that picture.

[QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

in the case of the Alan Wake screenshot, upon seeing it people immediately reacted with "that looks blurry"

resolution adds a lot of sharpness, i play all of my PC games in high resolutions so when i play something that's not in those high resolutions you see it immediately

it's just a matter of being used to something, you notice it more, if you're used to see sharper games then when you see a sub-HD game you notice it immediately, if you're used to sub-HD then you don't notice anything out of the ordinary

alexfla

i notice it with 720p as well, fyi

i definitely noticed it with MGS4, it's always been a blurry game to me

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]A lot of people do overplay its importance. Resolution that is. Personally, I'm more concerned about framerate than resolution.psn8214

amen, as should anyone that actually likes games.

I actually like games. Resolution is important to me. Combo breaker?

In the case of the current gen COD's, the resolution is quite noticeable.

I agree...most games that are sub-HD I wouldn't even notice if someone didn't point it out :?. I mean, only a few days ago did I find out MGS 4 was sub-HD. Doesn't exactly mean the game isn't a graphical powerhouse, because all those supposedly "not high definition" were some sweet looking games :D. DethSkematik

[QUOTE="psn8214"]

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

amen, as should anyone that actually likes games.

SilverChimera

I actually like games. Resolution is important to me. Combo breaker?

I almost feel sorry for you console kiddies always creating topics about graphics king, resolution, fps, the Cell processor, and a bunch of BS. If resolution isnt such a big deal, then why buy an HDTV? Why buy a 1920x1200 monitor when you can buy a 1280x1024 monitor?

As much as I love HD to death, in this case in what I've seen of AW, Resolution isn't a big deal. It does bother me when games are lower resoltion, but it depends on the game. I'm sure Alan Wake will NOT be one of those games that bothers me whether it's 540p or 720p. It's not like 720p is the pinnacle anyways.

That being said, after 1000 Alan Wake threads, this thread is just one giant thread of Damage Control, just in case it doesn't pan out, like ownage insurance.

I don't care what resolution AW is, I just want to play it and enjoy it, but just for the record, this thing has a chance at going either way.

It's 50/50. You flip a coin, and that's that. A "Community Manager" isnt' a reliable quote...but he said what he needed to say, and we all have to wait for AW to come out in the meantime. I would guess this thread will be long gone by the time AW comes out.

Back to waiting to actually play AW now.

I love how console gamers say resolution isn't important when they haven't played a single game at 1080p :lol:

I love how console gamers say resolution isn't important when they haven't played a single game at 1080p :lol:

anshul89

How can you possibly know that, when it's clear you don't know about 1080p native games on consoles.(NOT UPSCALED)

There isn't many native console 1080p games, but they do indeed exist.

For the record, PS3 has more of them, but it's a small list for both consoles. I still can't believe you declared that.

[QUOTE="anshul89"]

I love how console gamers say resolution isn't important when they haven't played a single game at 1080p :lol:

SolidTy

How can you possibly know that, when it's clear you don't know about 1080p native games on consoles.(NOT UPSCALED)

There isn't many native console 1080p games, but they do indeed exist.

For the record, PS3 has more of them, but it's a small list for both consoles. I still can't believe you declared that.