If it allowed more AAA PC exclusives, would you accept Always online DRMs?

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#1 NoodleFighter
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If it meant you could get High quality High End AAA budget PC exclusives, would you put with always online DRM. If said issues such as Diablo 3 were none existant would you put up with it?

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#2 ActicEdge
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I personally don't care much but I would prefer if |I didn't need to waste internet on a game I paid full price for. Do I need to be online to listen to the music I bought off iTunes?

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#3 tagyhag
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Would it only disconnect when my actual internet disconnects and not their servers f*cking up? Then sure.
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#4 Arach666
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Being online is hardly an issue to me,when I´m playing games I´m online most of the time anyway so it doesn´t really make a difference.
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#5 Zurrur
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If its online game like diablo 3 strict online DRM is only good thing since less cheaters

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#6 rjdofu
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DRM = deal breaker to me. My area's internet disconnect me every few hours.

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#7 rjdofu
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If its online game like diablo 3 strict online DRM is only good thing since less cheaters

Zurrur
Are you living in lala-land? http://www.ownedcore.com/forums/diablo-3/diablo-3-bots-programs/
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#8 Kiro0
Member since 2009 • 1176 Posts

No. A lot of multiplats are actually giving decent video options again and since I will always game on PC exclusives aren't a huge deal for me there. The stupidity of always-online DRM however, is a huge deal.

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#9 James161324
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Don't care but always online doesn't fix piracy if that is what this thread about.

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#10 k2theswiss
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i dont care very much. im always online

BUT

it sucks to have stupid crap like that

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#11 HaloinventedFPS
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Diablo 3 got away with it because its Diablo, arguably the biggest PC franchise of all time and it was always an online game anyway, the only time i played D2 offline was to use a trainer and try out builds.

other games will not get away with it, there is a reason Ubisoft took away the DRM. because it didnt help sales and only increased piracy.

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#12 lostrib
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I don't see the correlation

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#13 HaloinventedFPS
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If its online game like diablo 3 strict online DRM is only good thing since less cheaters

Zurrur

but cheating was a part of Diablo 2, everyone had a map hack or a bot running baal/chaos sanc runs (which helped low levels to lvl faster/get gear)

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#14 santoron
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Nope. My connection, isn't perfect, and neither is theirs. And an outage takes enough entertainment off the table for me as is. If the game is designed for on.ine only, that's one thing, but forcing a connection purely as DRM is a no go.
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#15 k2theswiss
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Diablo 3 got away with it because its Diablo, arguably the biggest PC franchise of all time and it was always an online game anyway, the only time i played D2 offline was to use a trainer and try out builds.

other games will not get away with it, there is a reason Ubisoft took away the DRM. because it didnt help sales and only increased piracy.

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isn't diablo a online game anyways? so what would be the point of playing offline even if u could? IDK never played it, the gameplay dont look fun to me.
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#16 HaloinventedFPS
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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

Diablo 3 got away with it because its Diablo, arguably the biggest PC franchise of all time and it was always an online game anyway, the only time i played D2 offline was to use a trainer and try out builds.

other games will not get away with it, there is a reason Ubisoft took away the DRM. because it didnt help sales and only increased piracy.

k2theswiss

isn't diablo a online game anyways? so what would be the point of playing offline even if u could? IDK never played it, the gameplay dont look fun to me.

Diablo 1/2 could be played offline, but most people played it online anyway, since you couldnt bring your single player character online, so it was a waste of time playing offline.

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#17 lordreaven
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I still haven't bought Diablo 3 due to always online DRM. If that answers the quetsion.

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#18 Masculus
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Depends on DRM, if, says you were bound to use GFWL, I would rather play gameboy games.

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#19 ShadowDeathX
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No thanks. I'm always online but still, no thanks.
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#20 loosingENDS
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I did not but Diablo 3 (and never will) because of the online only gameplay

And will probably never buy any such game ever

I would rather quit gaming than become the puppet of any company

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#21 AdrianWerner
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Sure. The inconvienence od always online DRM isn't a huge deal breaker for me. Especially since there would still be many games without such DRM to play on the rare ocassion when I'm offline.

I would like however for developers to release patches that remove that DRM few years after the game's premiere.

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#22 agpickle
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Never bought a game with always online, never will.

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#23 badtaker
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why SP needs this DRM ?

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#24 AdrianWerner
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why SP needs this DRM ?

badtaker

Some games do. Diablo III benefits from it. For others there's no need, but it might help calm the publishers' paranoia.

It would be nice if such DRM would give something back. Anno 2070 is such case. Yeah..online DRM sucks in it, but the devs have integrated online so much into the game that it actually enchances the experience immensely, which makes the DRM easier to swallow.

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#25 DragonfireXZ95
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If its online game like diablo 3 strict online DRM is only good thing since less cheaters

Zurrur
Except Diablo 3 has a ton of players who use bots.
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#26 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="badtaker"]

why SP needs this DRM ?

AdrianWerner

Some games do. Diablo III benefits from it. For others there's no need, but it might help calm the publishers' paranoia.

It would be nice if such DRM would give something back. Anno 2070 is such case. Yeah..online DRM sucks in it, but the devs have integrated online so much into the game that it actually enchances the experience immensely, which makes the DRM easier to swallow.

Diablo 3 benefited from the series being popular and being made by Blizzard...
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#27 silversix_
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Will never accept always online drm because i'm not always online and when u spend 60$ per game and can't play it=gtfo
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#28 skrat_01
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No.
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#29 SamiRDuran
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I dont understand pc gamers sometimes... The biggest pc games atm are online only (LOL, WOW D3) yet they wont accept it.
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#30 tenaka2
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I'm always online anyway so can't see it making much difference.

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#31 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="badtaker"]

why SP needs this DRM ?

Jebus213

Some games do. Diablo III benefits from it. For others there's no need, but it might help calm the publishers' paranoia.

It would be nice if such DRM would give something back. Anno 2070 is such case. Yeah..online DRM sucks in it, but the devs have integrated online so much into the game that it actually enchances the experience immensely, which makes the DRM easier to swallow.

Diablo 3 benefited from the series being popular and being made by Blizzard...

Sure, but it also benefited from being constantly online

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#32 The_RedLion
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DMR is BS, I'm happy I don't have to deal with it.
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#33 SamiRDuran
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DMR is BS, I'm happy I don't have to deal with it.The_RedLion
lol every single console is just a big DRM platform.
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#34 dj_pulserfan
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I would rather quit gaming than become the puppet of any company

loosingENDS


Oh the irony.

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#35 Rocker6
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No,to me,AO-DRM is the exact same thing as not having the game at all...

Makes no difference to me,I'll never support that crap...

Also,when I buy a game,I expect to be able to play it whenever I want,with AO-DRM,servers will get shut down sooner or later,usually 3-6 years,I'd say,and pubs aren't legally bound to release an off-line fix.They can just kill the game whenever they want...

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#36 Rocker6
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Diablo 3 got away with it because its Diablo, arguably the biggest PC franchise of all time and it was always an online game anyway, the only time i played D2 offline was to use a trainer and try out builds.

other games will not get away with it, there is a reason Ubisoft took away the DRM. because it didnt help sales and only increased piracy.

HaloinventedFPS

Exactly,D3 is nearly an MMO,also,Blizzard can do whatever they want to their games,and lots of people will still buy,due to their reputation among the PC community...

Anyone other than Blizzard has no chance,AO-DRM games either flop at sales(AC2,HAWX2,C&C4),or the DRM is removed after public backlashes(Brotherhood,From Dust)...

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#37 Mozelleple112
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Yes. I have an extremely stable internet connection and I have a 2.5mb/s download speed. It took me only a few hours to download even the largest Steam games, some only took 30-45 mins. My mum hardly uses the internet so its pretty much just me.

I only play games when I have Xfire running and counting my hours so in a way.. I only play games online anyways, even SP games for DEM HOURS.

So playing as I usally do + more AAA exclusives for the best platform? please please please

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#38 The_RedLion
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[QUOTE="The_RedLion"]DMR is BS, I'm happy I don't have to deal with it.SamiRDuran
lol every single console is just a big DRM platform.

But I don't have to be online all the time to play it.
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#39 Rocker6
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I dont understand pc gamers sometimes... The biggest pc games atm are online only (LOL, WOW D3) yet they wont accept it.SamiRDuran

SP=/=MP

I rarely play MP games,give me one reason why I should be on-line to play my SP game?

I want to enjoy my games,not worry about Internet drop-outs,sever issues,and eventual sever shutdown,that permanently disables your game,the one you paid for.As I said,pubs aren't legally bound to release off-line fixes,for them,pulling the plug is by far the easiest solution...

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#40 skrat_01
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lol every single console is just a big DRM platform.SamiRDuran
No, it's a system of hardware that's designed to process specific hardware. Not prevent you from playing games when a company sees that you're actively visible and constantly handshaking their servers.
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#41 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Some games do. Diablo III benefits from it. For others there's no need, but it might help calm the publishers' paranoia.

It would be nice if such DRM would give something back. Anno 2070 is such case. Yeah..online DRM sucks in it, but the devs have integrated online so much into the game that it actually enchances the experience immensely, which makes the DRM easier to swallow.

AdrianWerner

Diablo 3 benefited from the series being popular and being made by Blizzard...

Sure, but it also benefited from being constantly online

Swings both ways really, it's arguable it isn't and it arguable it is. As far as I'm concerned it nuked my enthusiasm, but for most people interested in Diablo that didn't seem to be an issue. What is telling is the prevalent issues and the long run.
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#42 parkurtommo
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No.

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#43 whiskeystrike
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No. My work takes me overseas and whatnot, where Internet is not a given. Would hate not being able to play.

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#44 Kickinurass
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Not me. I barely get along well with Steam DRM, and that's fairly unobtrusive most of the time.

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#45 loosingENDS
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6 million people bought Diablo 3, which makes this poll rather obsolete

The gamers have spoken, they have decided to become slaves of the game companies as long as they provide good games

Soon Blizzard will ask gamers to stand on one foot, give them your women and children and play online only sitting in a torture chair and i am sure Diablo 4 sales will go to 8-10 million

Personally i will never touch Diablo again until they offer offline gaming

Blizzard and its games are like non existent for me right now

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#46 Gladestone1
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6 million people bought Diablo 3, which makes this poll rather obsolete

The gamers have spoken, they have decided to become slaves of the game companies as long as they provide good games

Soon Blizzard will ask gamers to stand on one foot, give them your women and children and play online only sitting in a torture chair and i am sure Diablo 4 sales will go to 8-10 million

Personally i will never touch Diablo again until they offer offline gaming

Blizzard and its games are like non existent for me right now

loosingENDS

Unfortunatly its where all games are going to go from here on in..Its a sad trend in the pc erra we are in..Thats how these companies are stopping pirating..Thats the biggest thing i think as of right now..Until pirates figure out a way to break them..Its what its coming down to..It will happen pirates will break them..It might take awhile..How ever until that happens blizzard wins the battle..So right now bliz thinks they won the pirating war..Hate it really..Also hate how short d3 is compared to d2..The items are flat and boring..Game becomes boring later on..Its nothing like d1 and 2 where..Here comes the flames an jimmy crack corn an i dont care..Its my opinion..

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#47 C_Rule
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No. PC has enough good exclusives. More are always great, but always on online DRM is not a good trade-off.
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#48 Inconsistancy
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Some games do. Diablo III benefits from it. For others there's no need, but it might help calm the publishers' paranoia.

It would be nice if such DRM would give something back. Anno 2070 is such case. Yeah..online DRM sucks in it, but the devs have integrated online so much into the game that it actually enchances the experience immensely, which makes the DRM easier to swallow.

AdrianWerner

Diablo 3 benefited from the series being popular and being made by Blizzard...

Sure, but it also benefited from being constantly online

How? It would have had an always online mp feature regardless of its wretched DRM. Kitablo3 the Auction House Simulator. I'd rather have been able to 'exploit' and actually play the game, since they did the balancing so cheaply, than have some stupid anti-cheat bs in a game where there is no real competition in the first place. Blizzard even made sure that it was known that it wasn't a competitive game. Screw anti-cheat in casual games... funny that SC2 which needs (and has) anti-cheating components is moddable, yet that piece of crap Diablo isn't.

@Loosey, name sold the game, they didn't speak in favor of the onerous protection methods.

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#49 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="k2theswiss"][QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"] isn't diablo a online game anyways? so what would be the point of playing offline even if u could? IDK never played it, the gameplay dont look fun to me.

[QUOTE="The_RedLion"]DMR is BS, I'm happy I don't have to deal with it.SamiRDuran
lol every single console is just a big DRM platform.

LOL care to explain?
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#50 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"] Diablo 3 benefited from the series being popular and being made by Blizzard...Inconsistancy

Sure, but it also benefited from being constantly online

How? It would have had an always online mp feature regardless of its wretched DRM. Kitablo3 the Auction House Simulator. I'd rather have been able to 'exploit' and actually play the game, since they did the balancing so cheaply, than have some stupid anti-cheat bs in a game where there is no real competition in the first place. Blizzard even made sure that it was known that it wasn't a competitive game. Screw anti-cheat in casual games... funny that SC2 which needs (and has) anti-cheating components is moddable, yet that piece of crap Diablo isn't.

@Loosey, name sold the game, they didn't speak in favor of the onerous protection methods.

The fact that it had DRM decreased pirated versions. And that is what all companies should do I suppose, if they can't trust players to even buy their games, there has to be a penalty...