If it isnt a 9+ its a flop?

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#1 Hathesulacon
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Why is it that the word "FLOP" has become so popular in these last few days/ weeks? People are just using it left and right and i used to beleive without question that all of the games people said were flops, were indeed flops. When in fact all of you people dont look at metacritic. You only look at gamespot. Halo wars didnt flop it got a high B i think and all of my friends including me love that game to death. RE5 has never appealed to me but my friend randy says its fine. IT ALL boils down to opinion.

Too human was fun IMO just a little repetetive at times but if you paid attention to the story it was actually kind of cool. I think a flop is when a game actually S U C K S I.e Bikini Samurai Squad! that game is a waste of coding. The designers should be BEATEN. Generally you people understand what i mean.

If i may throw some opinion in

L4D>RE5

K2 graphics > Gears of War 2 graphics

Gow2 gameplay>K2 gameplay

Halo3>all lol (its a very good game and nothing really beats it, you can look at scores/sales ;D)

anyone who says halo is bad is just a lemming because we all know it is a very good game. No one said the best ever made but it very much is the best multiplayer shooter IMO.

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#2 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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A SW flop is one that doesn't meet the hype. That's all.

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#3 AAllxxjjnn
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It's a flop if it's hyped to a certain level and doesn't meet that hype.
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#4 clembo1990
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Yep it's a flop. Flop doesn't mean a bad game. Some of the best games this gen are flops.
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#5 GreenGoblin2099
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Nope, if it doesn't reach the score expected by most users, it is a flop... like Madworld was hyped to get a better score by pretty much everybody here. Id didn't, so it flopped.

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#6 treedoor
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No no no. The word flop here means that the game did not live up to it's hype.

If you hype an upcoming game as AAA on Gamespot, and Gamespot only gives it a AA, then it's a flop. It doesn't actually make it a bad game.

Don't think of flop as bad when you read it on the Gamespot forums.

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#7 Hathesulacon
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[QUOTE="treedoor"]

No no no. The word flop here means that the game did not live up to it's hype.

If you hype an upcoming game as AAA on Gamespot, and Gamespot only gives it a AA, then it's a flop. It doesn't actually make it a bad game.

Don't think of flop as bad when you read it on the Gamespot forums.

OOOH thank you all so much, i honestly did think that a flop ment that a game had a bad rating or something. OOOOOO than.... Killzone flopped lol to most people. and MGS4 got it perfect supposedly. So i guess people who hype games AAAA have REALLY high hopes? (killzone 2)
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Im pretty sure Lemmings are 360 owners... You just made yourself look like an idiot, or I did. Either way, one of us is wrong :lol: Anyways, any game that doesnt live up to the hype is a flop now. Its pathetic really. Oh, and Halo 3 does suck. Scores= Opinions of different people. Sales= Have no meaning to whether a game is good or bad. I think it sucks.
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#9 GreenGoblin2099
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[QUOTE="treedoor"]

No no no. The word flop here means that the game did not live up to it's hype.

If you hype an upcoming game as AAA on Gamespot, and Gamespot only gives it a AA, then it's a flop. It doesn't actually make it a bad game.

Don't think of flop as bad when you read it on the Gamespot forums.

Hathesulacon

OOOH thank you all so much, i honestly did think that a flop ment that a game had a bad rating or something. OOOOOO than.... Killzone flopped lol to most people. and MGS4 got it perfect supposedly. So i guess people who hype games AAAA have REALLY high hopes? (killzone 2)

I don't consider KZ2 a flop, because GS took away a whole point because it had "weak story"... like FPS have the deepest stories in gaming :roll: Also, the story was good enough for me to make me look for the original KZ.

Just remember, in the end it all comes down to opinions.

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#10 Hathesulacon
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Im pretty sure Lemmings are 360 owners... You just made yourself look like an idiot, or I did. Either way, one of us is wrong :lol: Anyways, any game that doesnt live up to the hype is a flop now. Its pathetic really. Oh, and Halo 3 does suck. Scores= Opinions of different people. Sales= Have no meaning to whether a game is good or bad. I think it sucks.Morning_Revival
i was using my common sense to decide what i thought was a flop. O and btw Give me 3 reasons halo 3 sucks? I dont think you can because its a good story, good multiplayer, a good stream of good dlc, and good merchandising. Its good deal with it. Both owners are lems.
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#11 GreenGoblin2099
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[QUOTE="Morning_Revival"]Im pretty sure Lemmings are 360 owners... You just made yourself look like an idiot, or I did. Either way, one of us is wrong :lol: Anyways, any game that doesnt live up to the hype is a flop now. Its pathetic really. Oh, and Halo 3 does suck. Scores= Opinions of different people. Sales= Have no meaning to whether a game is good or bad. I think it sucks.Hathesulacon
i was using my common sense to decide what i thought was a flop. O and btw Give me 3 reasons halo 3 sucks? I dont think you can because its a good story, good multiplayer, a good stream of good dlc, and good merchandising. Its good deal with it. Both owners are lems.

You don't even know what a lemming is... so yeah, he's right.

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#12 PSdual_wielder
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Its funny how I was just thinking about last night that Eric lanksherr(whatever his name is) claimed killzone 2 was flop because it didn't have the same score as halo 3. Honestly, to answer TC's question, no a score has nothing to do with it being a flop or not. I remember for warhawk, nobody gave it much expectations, but since it got a 8.5 in the end most people including me were quite surprised that is actually good and many people ended up getting the game, and did find it really fun.

And really, a score and the expectations of a game has nothing to do with it being fun or not, since they're completely detached from the contents of the game. Ratings are only a tool, and nothing to do with the quality of the game itself, not completely 100% word for word anyways.

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#13 LookAnDrolL
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CS > Halo
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#15 vashkey
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A SW flop is one that doesn't meet the hype. That's all.

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Not really.
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#16 chocolate1325
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A flop is a game that looks so amazing but fails to live up to expectations.

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#17 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

A SW flop is one that doesn't meet the hype. That's all.

vashkey

Not really.

It seems so based on what I've seen here. If not, what is it?

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#18 thinicer
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I think "flop" should be used for games that actually deserve that extreme designation.

To me, Lair was CLEARLY a flop. I mean look at what it scored. It was a game lots of people were excited about, and it ended up being utter tripe.

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#19 Lionheart08
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I think "flop" should be used for games that actually deserve that extreme designation.

To me, Lair was CLEARLY a flop. I mean look at what it scored. It was a game lots of people were excited about, and it ended up being utter tripe.

thinicer

That's the true definition. Here it system wars it just a game that doesn't live up to hype.

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#20 thinicer
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[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

A SW flop is one that doesn't meet the hype. That's all.

jimkabrhel

Not really.

It seems so based on what I've seen here. If not, what is it?

A game that many people are excited about and it ends up being a bad game, falling FAR below expectations. That's a flop. A game that doesn't quite meet expectations is not a flop. It's more like a trip.
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#21 SolidTy
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HERE in SW, a FLOP is a HYPE GAME.

You see, if everyone hypes up MADWORLD for instance, to get a AAA or AA score from GS, and it gets an A or less, it's a FLOP.

IF Halo has AAA hype, and GS gives it an 8.5, it's a FLOP.

Halo would still be a good game, but a FLOP here in SW.

Get it?

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#22 thinicer
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HERE in SW, a FLOP is a HYPE GAME.

You see, if everyone hypes up MADWORLD for instance, to get a AAA or AA score from GS, and it gets an A or less, it's a FLOP.

IF Halo has AAA hype, and GS gives it an 8.5, it's a FLOP.

Halo would still be a good game, but a FLOP here in SW.

Get it?

SolidTy

Why would anybody want to buy a game considered a flop?

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#23 GreenGoblin2099
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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="vashkey"] Not really. thinicer

It seems so based on what I've seen here. If not, what is it?

A game that many people are excited about and it ends up being a bad game, falling FAR below expectations. That's a flop. A game that doesn't quite meet expectations is not a flop. It's more like a trip.

When I got here to SW for the 1st time, I remember saying: "That makes no sense" at some other topic (not this one).

The reply was "Welsome to SW, leave all common sense behind"

And he couldn't be more right, normal stuff doesn't apply in this board :P

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#24 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

HERE in SW, a FLOP is a HYPE GAME.

You see, if everyone hypes up MADWORLD for instance, to get a AAA or AA score from GS, and it gets an A or less, it's a FLOP.

IF Halo has AAA hype, and GS gives it an 8.5, it's a FLOP.

Halo would still be a good game, but a FLOP here in SW.

Get it?

thinicer

Why would anybody want to buy a game considered a flop?

You are confusing the REAL world with SW world.

8.5 in the real world isn't a FLOP. only in SW could that be possible.

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#25 thinicer
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[QUOTE="thinicer"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

HERE in SW, a FLOP is a HYPE GAME.

You see, if everyone hypes up MADWORLD for instance, to get a AAA or AA score from GS, and it gets an A or less, it's a FLOP.

IF Halo has AAA hype, and GS gives it an 8.5, it's a FLOP.

Halo would still be a good game, but a FLOP here in SW.

Get it?

SolidTy

Why would anybody want to buy a game considered a flop?

You are confusing the REAL world with SW world.

8.5 in the real world isn't a FLOP. only in SW could that be possible.

It's called fanboyism and exaggerating the smallest things. Has nothing to do with being in the real world or not. I think it's pretty silly to call games "flops" and then in the same sentence say "but it's still a good game!"

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#26 Master-Thief-09
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Flop doesn't mean bad. If it doesn't meet the hype, then it's a flop. That goes for any score: For e.g. if hyped 8.0 and gets 7.5 then it's a flop, and so on.
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#27 GreenGoblin2099
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It's called fanboyism and exaggerating the smallest things. Has nothing to do with being in the real world or not. I think it's pretty silly to call games "flops" and then in the same sentence say "but it's still a good game!"

thinicer

Again, you're not getting what we say: This is SW, it was meant for fanboys, not for people trying to agree.

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#28 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="thinicer"]

Why would anybody want to buy a game considered a flop?

thinicer

You are confusing the REAL world with SW world.

8.5 in the real world isn't a FLOP. only in SW could that be possible.

It's called fanboyism and exaggerating the smallest things. Has nothing to do with being in the real world or not. I think it's pretty silly to call games "flops" and then in the same sentence say "but it's still a good game!"

Of course it's silly! I was answering the TOPIC CREATOR, I didn't create this place!

It is what it is, a crazy SW world. It's crazy like owning only two of the three systems out, but that's how it goes around these parts.

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#29 no_handlebars
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[QUOTE="Master-Thief-09"]Flop doesn't mean bad. If it doesn't meet the hype, then it's a flop. That goes for any score: For e.g. if hyped 8.0 and gets 7.5 then it's a flop, and so on.

I've been meaning to ask, but where is the gif in your sig from?
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#30 grr320
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actually if the game isnt a 10 it's a flop.

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#31 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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Lawlz at SW hype determining how good a game is.

RE5 = Best TPS Action game this gen!

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#32 mitu123
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actually if the game isnt a 10 it's a flop.

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We have so many flops this gen then.
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#33 BuryMe
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No. It's a flop if it didn't meet the hye it recieved.

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#34 Lostboy1224
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Flop to me would be numerous game scores giving it D to F levels. I guess you can consider overhyped games getting so so scores a flop in a sense but I am sure there would be some people who could over look the flaws and still have fun with it.