If Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 were Xbox 360 exclusives...

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#1 teh_cell
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...the xbots would be screaming about how this is absolute cast iron proof that the 360 is more powerful. Because they aren't they make feeble excuses about the poor ol' 360 not getting game sufficently optimised for the platform. So there argument is that the 360 is more pwoerful, but don't expect to ever see any proof in terms of game graphics.

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#2 SolidTy
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Well, of course, that was happening just three years ago.

However, thw fun world of "If" is just a fun neverending story.

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#3 ActicEdge
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Sorry but I live in a world of what is, not what if. Also, was it necessary to tell his how SW works but act like its some revelation? Its rather annoying.

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#4 RAGINGxPONY
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All fanboys are going to say things that make their system sound better.

Just like Cows said sales don't matter, now their are atleast 10+ threads a day about how the PS3 is outselling the 360. And now Lems are saying bu..but sales don't matter.

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#5 SilverChimera
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All fanboys are like this. Another example was right before E3 2009, MGS series was still a movie and it sucked. But after MGS:R was announced for 360, OMG TEH OWNAGE!!@#!!#$$#
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#6 G-O-M-J
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360 is just as powerfull, resident evil 5 is the best looking console game imo.
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#7 timmy00
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...the xbots would be screaming about how this is absolute cast iron proof that the 360 is more powerful. Because they aren't they make feeble excuses about the poor ol' 360 not getting game sufficently optimised for the platform. So there argument is that the 360 is more pwoerful, but don't expect to ever see any proof in terms of game graphics.

teh_cell

A wild troll appears!

I decided to translate what you said TC

"HAI GUYZ I'm going to state bullcrap and show how much of a fanboy I am!!!!"

This topic is pointless and you are an Obvious troll.

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#8 SexySasquatch11
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If those 2 were on the xbox Uncharted would still be amazing and Killzone would suck as much as it does. A game on one system or another doesn't make it and better or worse. Games stand on their own merits not a consoles.

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#9 drakecool1
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All fanboys are going to say things that make their system sound better.

Just like Cows said sales don't matter, now their are atleast 10+ threads a day about how the PS3 is outselling the 360. And now Lems are saying bu..but sales don't matter.

RAGINGxPONY

and around 10 threads of lemmings now saying sales dont mean anything now but back then it did.

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#10 RAGINGxPONY
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[QUOTE="RAGINGxPONY"]

All fanboys are going to say things that make their system sound better.

Just like Cows said sales don't matter, now their are atleast 10+ threads a day about how the PS3 is outselling the 360. And now Lems are saying bu..but sales don't matter.

drakecool1

and around 10 threads of lemmings now saying sales dont mean anything now but back then it did.

Yeah man, I know that is my point.

Fanboys are going to say what is convient for them to say, to make their system sound good.

Lems, Cows Hermits, Sheep,their all the same.

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#11 SPYDER0416
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Everyone is a hypocrite on SW, even if exclusive games on one system are great, you will still hear poorly done negative reviews from lems and cows alike. First sales don't matter to cows but they do to lems, now you'll hear Cows talking about how much PS3 is selling and lems talking about how sales don't make for game quality (even though this is the ONLY argument they use for saying game x is best). You also use to have lems talking about how great 360 graphics are back in 06 and 07 when Gears of War was out, now its all "is not the graphics, its the gameplay" and cows everywhere ragging on 360 games like the lems did.

Its a vicious cycle, plus I believe U2 couldn't be done on 360.

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#12 InfiniteBlak
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360 is just as powerfull, resident evil 5 is the best looking console game imo.G-O-M-J
You Fail!!!! KZ2 and Uncharted are the best looking games by far.
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#13 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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What I honestly dont get is vgchartz. They show charts on console sales and even when the ps3 dropped $100 the sales stayed the same and so did the xbox 360 sales, I dont even believe their charts and facts anymore because not once did I see the ps3 even close to the sales of 360 even when everyone wanted such a huge price drop which happened yet it is still like that, I really just cannot believe that does anyone know a site that is accurate?

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#14 jyoung312
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What I honestly dont get is vgchartz. They show charts on console sales and even when the ps3 dropped $100 the sales stayed the same and so did the xbox 360 sales, I dont even believe their charts and facts anymore because not once did I see the ps3 even close to the sales of 360 even when everyone wanted such a huge price drop which happened yet it is still like that, I really just cannot believe that does anyone know a site that is accurate?

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Dude I learned back in 2007 that they are full of crap.
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#15 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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Yeah lol according to them the ps3 has always seemed to sell 27 million units, I hear everywhere that the ps3 outsells xbox 360 at times and yet I see the same 27 million ps3, 34 million xbox 360. I heard that since the price drop the ps3 sales went up 200% (this was when it dropped to $399.99) yet again, 27 million. Now it dropped to $299.99 and yet a gain it says 27 million units for ps3 and 34 million units for xbox 360, im pretty sure that the xbox 360 sales might have gone up very slightly im not sure but ps3 sales stay the same which is obviously not true. Oh and when Killzone and Uncharted become xbox 360 exclusives, well, thats when the world will end.

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#16 oajlu
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if they are 360's exculsives with same graphics, we can expect seeing a lot more RROD. lol

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#17 A-l-g-r-e-n
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Honestly I don't think the 360 can handle Uncharted 2... I mean, the PS3 is more powerful and still it almost has its ass kicked by U2... I can't play it for like 4 hours in a row or else my system freezes :(

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#18 A-l-g-r-e-n
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[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

Everyone is a hypocrite on SW, even if exclusive games on one system are great, you will still hear poorly done negative reviews from lems and cows alike. First sales don't matter to cows but they do to lems, now you'll hear Cows talking about how much PS3 is selling and lems talking about how sales don't make for game quality (even though this is the ONLY argument they use for saying game x is best). You also use to have lems talking about how great 360 graphics are back in 06 and 07 when Gears of War was out, now its all "is not the graphics, its the gameplay" and cows everywhere ragging on 360 games like the lems did.

Its a vicious cycle, plus I believe U2 couldn't be done on 360.

I agree. People also used to say CryEngine 2 couldn't run on either console, but now CryEngine 3 (Crysis 2) is coming out for both. I wonder what those people have to say now. By the way... What are cows and lems?
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[QUOTE="G-O-M-J"]360 is just as powerfull, resident evil 5 is the best looking console game imo.InfiniteBlak
You Fail!!!! KZ2 and Uncharted are the best looking games by far.

Looks are subjective... That's why he put "IMO."
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#20 A-l-g-r-e-n
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[QUOTE="InfiniteBlak"][QUOTE="G-O-M-J"]360 is just as powerfull, resident evil 5 is the best looking console game imo.Vadamee
You Fail!!!! KZ2 and Uncharted are the best looking games by far.

Looks are subjective... That's why he put "IMO."

You can't really argue about which textures and facial animations in each game come closer to reality. And in Uncharted 2, they come closer than in RE5. Opinions don't matter here. I also think Killzone 2 and RE5 are more pleasant and attractive to the eye than Uncharted 2, for some reason. But U2 has obviously the better graphics.
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If KZ2 would of come out on the 360, the PS3 would of surpassed the 360 in sales by April due to the fact that the XBL community would commit suicide for passing that rubbish off as a viable shooter....

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#22 93soccer
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If Killzone 2 or Uncharted 2 were on Xbox 360, they would've sold better. That's it. Most lems didn't care about "powerful hardwar and graphix" until KZ2 came out followed by all the sheeps comments claiming it to be the best looking game ever. Then they got shown a pic of Crysis. They shut up until UC2 came out and now the same thing is happening again
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#23 A-l-g-r-e-n
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If KZ2 would of come out on the 360, the PS3 would of surpassed the 360 in sales by April due to the fact that the XBL community would commit suicide for passing that rubbish off as a viable shooter....

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...the xbots would be screaming about how this is absolute cast iron proof that the 360 is more powerful. Because they aren't they make feeble excuses about the poor ol' 360 not getting game sufficently optimised for the platform. So there argument is that the 360 is more pwoerful, but don't expect to ever see any proof in terms of game graphics.

teh_cell
no, maybe uncharted that seems to look really nice, but i've played through killzone, and for the most part its a good looking game but the enviroments seem kind of barren, they would have done nicely making a bit more alive, theres absolutly no levels with any type of vegetation, in face i don't think there is a tree in the game. I'm not saying its a bad looking game, but on a technical level its not really achieving much, mainly animations and physics and lighting, but everything else seems to have been sacrificed for that and are kind of fairly standard.
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#25 A-l-g-r-e-n
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="teh_cell"]

...the xbots would be screaming about how this is absolute cast iron proof that the 360 is more powerful. Because they aren't they make feeble excuses about the poor ol' 360 not getting game sufficently optimised for the platform. So there argument is that the 360 is more pwoerful, but don't expect to ever see any proof in terms of game graphics.

no, maybe uncharted that seems to look really nice, but i've played through killzone, and for the most part its a good looking game but the enviroments seem kind of barren, they would have done nicely making a bit more alive, theres absolutly no levels with any type of vegetation, in face i don't think there is a tree in the game. I'm not saying its a bad looking game, but on a technical level its not really achieving much, mainly animations and physics and lighting, but everything else seems to have been sacrificed for that and are kind of fairly standard.

Oh c'mon. KZ2 looks unbelievable. It's the kind of game I looked at and felt weird actually playing it... I dunno, it just feels so WEIRD. Its graphics are SO GUD that it doesn't quite look like a game... It looks like a video... I can barely believe I'm actually controlling all of that.
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#26 TBoogy
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[QUOTE="G-O-M-J"]360 is just as powerfull, resident evil 5 is the best looking console game imo.InfiniteBlak
You Fail!!!! KZ2 and Uncharted are the best looking games by far.

I have a friend who sold his xbox for a ps3 and always says how much the Xbox is over rated, and how Halo sucks now (he hated part 3). He swears KZ2 is better, and loves Uncharted as well. Yet, he thinks Gears Of War is the best looking game this gen still.

"Best looking" is a matter of opinion much like everything else we fight over in System Wars.

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#27 djsifer01
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360 is just as powerfull, resident evil 5 is the best looking console game imo.G-O-M-J
Well then you should get your eyes checked, RE5 dosent hold a candle to KZ2 or UC2. If its just as powerful, were are the games that match KZ2 and UC2 both technically and graphically? Maybe if MS had any game development talent instead of closed studios we might see one but im afraid its just not going to happen. The 360 dose have some graphically impressive games just not on the level of the PS3 exclusives i mentioned.
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#28 SPYDER0416
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Honestly I don't think the 360 can handle Uncharted 2... I mean, the PS3 is more powerful and still it almost has its ass kicked by U2... I can't play it for like 4 hours in a row or else my system freezes :(

A-l-g-r-e-n

Wow, you should probably get your PS3 checked since that could mean an impending hardware malfunction. Seriously, U2 doesn't cause freezes like a maxed game would on PC.

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#29 A-l-g-r-e-n
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[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

[QUOTE="A-l-g-r-e-n"]

Honestly I don't think the 360 can handle Uncharted 2... I mean, the PS3 is more powerful and still it almost has its ass kicked by U2... I can't play it for like 4 hours in a row or else my system freezes :(

Wow, you should probably get your PS3 checked since that could mean an impending hardware malfunction. Seriously, U2 doesn't cause freezes like a maxed game would on PC.

I have a friend who has the same problem... I'm gonna talk to him then :O thanks for the heads up. I hope Crysis 2 doesn't screw my PS3 over either, cuz the CryENGINE 3 demo looks just as good as UC2 if not better.
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#30 gamefan274
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...the xbots would be screaming about how this is absolute cast iron proof that the 360 is more powerful. Because they aren't they make feeble excuses about the poor ol' 360 not getting game sufficently optimised for the platform. So there argument is that the 360 is more pwoerful, but don't expect to ever see any proof in terms of game graphics.

teh_cell


If the 360 had Uncharted, I'd be pretty unbiased. I love my exclusives on my PS3, but the 360 would be even with KZ2 and Uncharted. And what is wrong with capitalizing on success? The PS3 has the graphics king, its usually not very debatable. It is widely accepted that those games look better than anything on consoles. If the 360 had both with the same graphics and the PS3 didn't, I think there would be no deniing its superior tech. It would have better multiplats and exclusives.

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#31 savagetwinkie
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="teh_cell"]

...the xbots would be screaming about how this is absolute cast iron proof that the 360 is more powerful. Because they aren't they make feeble excuses about the poor ol' 360 not getting game sufficently optimised for the platform. So there argument is that the 360 is more pwoerful, but don't expect to ever see any proof in terms of game graphics.

A-l-g-r-e-n
no, maybe uncharted that seems to look really nice, but i've played through killzone, and for the most part its a good looking game but the enviroments seem kind of barren, they would have done nicely making a bit more alive, theres absolutly no levels with any type of vegetation, in face i don't think there is a tree in the game. I'm not saying its a bad looking game, but on a technical level its not really achieving much, mainly animations and physics and lighting, but everything else seems to have been sacrificed for that and are kind of fairly standard.

Oh c'mon. KZ2 looks unbelievable. It's the kind of game I looked at and felt weird actually playing it... I dunno, it just feels so WEIRD. Its graphics are SO GUD that it doesn't quite look like a game... It looks like a video... I can barely believe I'm actually controlling all of that.

it looks good but what i'm saying all its rendering aside from people is walls and dirt, realisticly xbox and ps3 are capable of outputing almsot identicle images, mainly due to the limitation on the ram. What kz2 does is make alot of trade offs, it probably has more processing power but since either system can only use the same amount of data at any given time we really won't see one game excel over the other. KZ2 did look good, but i was unimpressed since the enviroments really didn't spring to life in any way, and the dynamic shadows were really weak, most were lo rez, sometimes they were non existant where they were supposed to be. if i new how to post screens i would but just look at the differences in most screens between gears and kz2. i'm not saying gears on a technical level is doing more then kz2. But is is doing more on scale and diversity, limiting the technical side of the graphics. Its adding more and the quality suffers for it. And thats really the truth, each system has roughly 512mb to play with, so dev's have to play with the resources to get the best image quality making sacrifices to make other parts of the game to look good.