If MGS4 was done with the 360 hardware in mind....

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#1 Eyezonmii
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would have we seen the same game, but with better textures?

MGS4 currently has insane looking character models, but enviromental textures are pretty bad, besides a few areas (very few) that have high rez ones.

Due to the PS3's Ram issues (being 256+256 split) and OS..etc.

I think we would have, thoughts?

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#2 AgentA-Mi6
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I prefer not think about such a thing

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#3 MotoJ19
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Good Question, but i dont htink i know enough about a console's technological capabilities to determine a valid answer.
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#4 MojondeVACA
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Like i dont even care it would be the same meh game with pretty textures.
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would have we seen the same game, but with better textures?

MGS4 currently has insane looking character models, but enviromental textures are pretty bad, besides a few areas (very few) that have high rez ones.

Due to the PS3's Ram issues (being 256+256 split) and OS..etc.

I think we would have, thoughts?

Eyezonmii

I think the devs at konami concentrated on the cutscenes and character models rather than all the textures, although the textures are not as bad as you say, there are some places where they aren't that good but the game overall look insane, it's a definite contender for console graphics of the year :P

Btw i don't think the OS of the ps3 has anything to do with the textures :P Uncharted is better in terms of textures than MGS4 cuz the main thing about uncharted are the graphics, the main thing about MGS4 is the story :P

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#6 SnakePS360Gamer
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This thread failed when you said “IF” What IF PS3 lived up to PS2's hype. I hate what if discussions. The answers are unknown and the questions are stupid most of the time.
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#7 Eyezonmii
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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

would have we seen the same game, but with better textures?

MGS4 currently has insane looking character models, but enviromental textures are pretty bad, besides a few areas (very few) that have high rez ones.

Due to the PS3's Ram issues (being 256+256 split) and OS..etc.

I think we would have, thoughts?

Al3x_n90

I think the devs at konami concentrated on the cutscenes and character models rather than all the textures, although the textures are not as bad as you say, there are some places where they aren't that good but the game overall look insane, it's a definite contender for console graphics of the year :P

Btw i don't think the OS of the ps3 has anything to do with the textures :P Uncharted is better in terms of textures than MGS4 cuz the main thing about uncharted are the graphics, the main thing about MGS4 is the story :P

First of all, MGS4 suffers from A LOT of low enviromental textures, with good ones here and there.

2nd, I didn't mean the OS had something to do with the texture, but that the OS takes up more RAM, that COULD'VE been used for textures.

MGS4's graphical highs come from character models, and also draw distance.

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#8 Eyezonmii
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This thread failed when you said "IF" What IF PS3 lived up to PS2's hype. I hate what if discussions. The answers are unknown and the questions are stupid most of the time.SnakePS360Gamer

okay, MR REALITY...my bad, it will not happen again.

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#9 Juggernaut140
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would have we seen the same game, but with better textures?

MGS4 currently has insane looking character models, but enviromental textures are pretty bad, besides a few areas (very few) that have high rez ones.

Due to the PS3's Ram issues (being 256+256 split) and OS..etc.

I think we would have, thoughts?

Eyezonmii

Not really :|

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#10 spike6566
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it woud of been on 5-6 disc. since the 360 doenst have a hdd as standard :(
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#11 cifru
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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

would have we seen the same game, but with better textures?

MGS4 currently has insane looking character models, but enviromental textures are pretty bad, besides a few areas (very few) that have high rez ones.

Due to the PS3's Ram issues (being 256+256 split) and OS..etc.

I think we would have, thoughts?

Juggernaut140

Not really :|

oh Really? :|

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#12 Juggernaut140
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[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

would have we seen the same game, but with better textures?

MGS4 currently has insane looking character models, but enviromental textures are pretty bad, besides a few areas (very few) that have high rez ones.

Due to the PS3's Ram issues (being 256+256 split) and OS..etc.

I think we would have, thoughts?

cifru

Not really :|

oh Really? :|

YA RLY

They're good but they're not "INSANE" or "XXXTREME"

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#13 Al3x_n90
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[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

would have we seen the same game, but with better textures?

MGS4 currently has insane looking character models, but enviromental textures are pretty bad, besides a few areas (very few) that have high rez ones.

Due to the PS3's Ram issues (being 256+256 split) and OS..etc.

I think we would have, thoughts?

Eyezonmii

I think the devs at konami concentrated on the cutscenes and character models rather than all the textures, although the textures are not as bad as you say, there are some places where they aren't that good but the game overall look insane, it's a definite contender for console graphics of the year :P

Btw i don't think the OS of the ps3 has anything to do with the textures :P Uncharted is better in terms of textures than MGS4 cuz the main thing about uncharted are the graphics, the main thing about MGS4 is the story :P

First of all, MGS4 suffers from A LOT of low enviromental textures, with good ones here and there.

2nd, I didn't mean the OS had something to do with the texture, but that the OS takes up more RAM, that COULD'VE been used for textures.

MGS4's graphical highs come from character models, and also draw distance.

Yeah :P anyway screw the graphics the game still pwns :P and gameplay>>>>>>>>>graphics

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#14 treelog82
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I think we would have seen higher quality textures, but at the expense of more repetition. The quality of the texture work in MGS4 is nothing to write home about, but the sheer amount of different textures in the game is mind numbing if you take the time to look around. Not only the textures used for the environments, equipment and characters, but also the amount of textures used for the Octocamo since they arent exactly copy/pasted from the environment. Im pretty sure thats what the 50 gigs was used for. Uncompressed sound, tons of textures and tons of models.
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#15 LordQuorthon
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Kojima once said he wished he could make a game that would destroy itself, as in, the disc would destroy itself, every time you died, and you would have to go to the store and buy another copy if you wanted to play again.

DID U C WUT I DID DER? :lol:

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#16 CreepyBacon
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You'd have seen a superior game.
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#17 Leo-Magic
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The overall for MGS4 is pretty good, cant really ask for more.

and please dont bring up the comparison with gears 2 again even though I love gears 2 more.

they are truly the GOTY for both console.

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#18 metalgear-solid
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No, the characters models would have been way inferior. So would the sound and pretty much everything else.
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#19 ejstrup
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The sound quality probably wouldn't have been very great...

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

would have we seen the same game, but with better textures?

MGS4 currently has insane looking character models, but enviromental textures are pretty bad, besides a few areas (very few) that have high rez ones.

Due to the PS3's Ram issues (being 256+256 split) and OS..etc.

I think we would have, thoughts?

Juggernaut140

Not really :|

yes really.

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#20 WilliamRLBaker
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No, the characters models would have been way inferior. So would the sound and pretty much everything else.metalgear-solid

on a cold day in hell, it would have been superior in every single way, too bad it still wouldn't be good enough id never have played it MGS4 was simply bad.

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#21 treelog82
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[QUOTE="metalgear-solid"]No, the characters models would have been way inferior. So would the sound and pretty much everything else.WilliamRLBaker

on a cold day in hell, it would have been superior in every single way, too bad it still wouldn't be good enough id never have played it MGS4 was simply bad.

Sarcasm FTW?

I you dont like MGS4, cool, whatever, its all about opinion, but inferior in every way? No sorry, but you have to realize both of these consoles have their strengths and weaknesses. Not that I agree with the guy saying the models would have been way inferior, but certain aspects would be better, or worse on each console.

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#22 Phazevariance
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It would have been better on the 360. Take out dolby true HD audio and make it 5.1 dolby surround sound and the game woul dhave fit better onto less than 6 dvd's. But in reality, i don't care cause MGS is not that great of a series to me.

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#23 Blazerdt47
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It would have been better on the 360. Take out dolby true HD audio and make it 5.1 dolby surround sound and the game woul dhave fit better onto less than 6 dvd's. But in reality, i don't care cause MGS is not that great of a series to me.

Phazevariance

Wow this is getting out of hand. So the 360 can have better textures on it? So wrong, do you guys know how many different types of textures are in the game? Probably about 10 times more than GeOW1 to be exact. Add in the character models and the amazing draw distance on the landscapes. This is technically the console graphics king.

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#24 Eyezonmii
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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

would have we seen the same game, but with better textures?

MGS4 currently has insane looking character models, but enviromental textures are pretty bad, besides a few areas (very few) that have high rez ones.

Due to the PS3's Ram issues (being 256+256 split) and OS..etc.

I think we would have, thoughts?

Juggernaut140

Not really :|

lol..that made me laugh.

someone hasn't played the game.

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#25 Espada12
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[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

would have we seen the same game, but with better textures?

MGS4 currently has insane looking character models, but enviromental textures are pretty bad, besides a few areas (very few) that have high rez ones.

Due to the PS3's Ram issues (being 256+256 split) and OS..etc.

I think we would have, thoughts?

Eyezonmii

Not really :|

lol..that made me laugh.

someone hasn't played the game.

It really doesn't. They are good but not *insane*

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#26 mo0ksi
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[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

would have we seen the same game, but with better textures?

MGS4 currently has insane looking character models, but enviromental textures are pretty bad, besides a few areas (very few) that have high rez ones.

Due to the PS3's Ram issues (being 256+256 split) and OS..etc.

I think we would have, thoughts?

Eyezonmii

Not really :|

lol..that made me laugh.

someone hasn't played the game.

They're not that great TBH. I've seen games with much better character models. Then again it's all down to taste.
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#27 Juggernaut140
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[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

would have we seen the same game, but with better textures?

MGS4 currently has insane looking character models, but enviromental textures are pretty bad, besides a few areas (very few) that have high rez ones.

Due to the PS3's Ram issues (being 256+256 split) and OS..etc.

I think we would have, thoughts?

Eyezonmii

Not really :|

lol..that made me laugh.

someone hasn't played the game.

Played it and beat it on my PSTRIPLE

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#28 ExtremeOne316
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yes we would have the same game.

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#29 UnnDunn
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MGS4 optimized for 360 would probably have slightly (slightly!) less detailed character models but sharper textures and more subtle effects, making for an overall better looking game.
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#30 Adrian_Cloud
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NO.
Cell+RSX>360.
That simple, no ands ifs or buts about it.
Uncharted, REsistance 2, Ratchet and Clank: TOD, GT5: P all have proved this. not only that... its the same amount of RAM as 360.. doh!

If MGS4 was made for 360 in mind.. it would look better simply because of the ease of the development and they would have had more time to develop the game( this is if it was exclusive.. if was multi-plat then PS3)
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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

would have we seen the same game, but with better textures?

MGS4 currently has insane looking character models, but enviromental textures are pretty bad, besides a few areas (very few) that have high rez ones.

Due to the PS3's Ram issues (being 256+256 split) and OS..etc.

I think we would have, thoughts?

Juggernaut140

Not really :|

O really?? I hate when people lie.

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If it was done on 360, it'd look like Mega Man 9.
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#33 Juggernaut140
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[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

would have we seen the same game, but with better textures?

MGS4 currently has insane looking character models, but enviromental textures are pretty bad, besides a few areas (very few) that have high rez ones.

Due to the PS3's Ram issues (being 256+256 split) and OS..etc.

I think we would have, thoughts?

dream431ca

Not really :|

O really?? I hate when people lie.

They're good but they aren't better than Mass Effects

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#34 Brainhunter
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MGS4 isn't all about its raw texture resolution : the high-resolution character models, the general level design, the combination of draw distance and amount of data being processed on the screen simultaneously (explosions, gunfire), the 7.1 uncomprssed surround sound and the technical prowess from the developers of Konami, under the head of Mr. Kojima, pulling all of this together without dropping to unplayable framerates is truly a mark of a great game done well.
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#35 TheGrat1
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Downgrade the sound even if its still uncompressed, take out roaming enemies, downgrade the draw distance, reduce the number of textures for the octocamo, slap it on at least 4 DVDs (licensing fees would be insane), and you get MGS4 on 360 :)
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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

would have we seen the same game, but with better textures?

MGS4 currently has insane looking character models, but enviromental textures are pretty bad, besides a few areas (very few) that have high rez ones.

Due to the PS3's Ram issues (being 256+256 split) and OS..etc.

I think we would have, thoughts?

Juggernaut140

Not really :|

IMO best thing about the game

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#37 EuroMafia
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Just to be safe, let's just say it'll look the same and leave it at that?
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#38 AgentA-Mi6
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If it was done on 360, it'd look like Mega Man 9. SolidGame_basic

Final Fantasy Always looked better than MGS4 to me and it can and WILL be done for 360

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#39 thegoldenpoo
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MGS4 optimized for 360 would probably have slightly (slightly!) less detailed character models but sharper textures and more subtle effects, making for an overall better looking game.UnnDunn

but in general i think it would look the same, some stuff better some stuff worse. like a multiplat. all those who say that MGS4 is not possible on the 360 are deluded.... or stupid...

or both as is shown here;

NO.
Cell+RSX>360.
That simple, no ands ifs or buts about it.
Uncharted, REsistance 2, Ratchet and Clank: TOD, GT5: P all have proved this. not only that... its the same amount of RAM as 360.. doh! (oh rly?)

If MGS4 was made for 360 in mind.. it would look better simply because of the ease of the development and they would have had more time to develop the game( this is if it was exclusive.. if was multi-plat then PS3)
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#40 Fizzman
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the game would have probably been longer since they couldnt put in 23hours of movies, and 7hours of gameplay.

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#41 rolo107
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This thread failed when you said "IF" What IF PS3 lived up to PS2's hype. I hate what if discussions. The answers are unknown and the questions are stupid most of the time.SnakePS360Gamer

You're a pretty boring individual :S. Why do you game? Anyways? Isn't the whole point of gaming, what if? What if I was a soldier fighting in WW2? : l

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#42 imprezawrx500
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there would be next to no difference. ps3/x360 are basicly the same in terms of power