mass effect, oblvioin, lost odessey, blue dragon, fable 2, elveon (as far as rpgs go), then the likes of ninja gaiden, assassins creed, dead rising, Gta, banjo 3, too human, two worlds etc etc all of which are not shooters. JPOBS
I knew this would happen and I was hoping to cut it off. Guess some thing really are impossible.
Like I said, the 360 is moving in the right direction. But so far there is no guarantee that those games you list will end up the minority as the console's life goes on.  This is why I mainly talked about the PS2. The PS2 had all kinds of crazy games coming out in all genres.  If MS wants the 360 to really start killing in sales, and especially sell better than the original Xbox, they need to start providing the library PS2 had.     While MS is improving, I still feel they are in their old mindset that if they can't hype and brag about a game then it isn't worth mentioning. So we see lists like what you made, but those games won't appeal to everybody. If MS wants 100 million users, they need to just scatter tons of games and let the consumer decide, instead of trying to only offer games that are going to be hyped.
Furthermore, the lack of sim titles and strategy games is not exclusive to the 360. ALL console are and always have been lacking in these genres.
I never said it was exlcusive. It's also why I mostly referenced last gen. But I would assume an MS console would have way more SIM titles since there are so many available for PC. And you seem to WANT to deliberately put words in my mouth so you can desperately defend MS from attacks I am not making. I never said other consoles had those games as a majority or even a ton. But they certainly have been more available in the past on other consoles than on MS consoles so far.Â
And in your last paragraph, you make it sound as if the 360 isnt moving fast enough to gobble up gamers who want puzzle, sim and rpg games. Well, as far as i can tell, the 360 has more rpgs on the way than both the ps3 and wii so what does it have to worry about? and puzzle games has never been a mass market to the console industry, so i doubt it has anything to worry about.
THis is just an extremely ignorant statement. I shouldn't even comment on it since you clearly are just a knee-jerk MS fan who can't tell the difference between constructive criticism and attacks. Clearly you won't be happy unless I say MS and the 360 are perfect and couldn't possibly improve. But I'll bite.
Absolutely MS isn't moving fast enough to gobble up those other gamers. I honestly believe that MS officials believe the only games that matter are shooters racers and sports titles. I honestly believe that anything else is a token effort to get people to buyu the console but they have little desire to flesh out those genres. While MS isn't going to be hurt by this thinking, they aren't going to dominate either. The 360, while having a much more diverse library than the Xbox, is still seen as the FPS/arcade racer console. Having a couple token RPGs isn't going to change that. RPG fans will still think back to the PS1 and PS2 and the 100 RPGs that came out every single year. Sure, they weren't all awesome, or even ground breaking, but it's what RPG fans want to play and consumers always want a choice.
You basically confirm my whole point. You say, well because they don't sell massive amounts, who cares? PEOPLE care. CONSUMERS care. If MS wants to be #1 they have to care about all gamers and all consumers. Not just those gamers who used to play Counter Strike all day long and then bought an Xbox. I'm not saying those genres should dominate either, but they shouldn't be burried because MS thinks all anybody really wants is shooters and racing games. Â
and if the "agressive jock type who only care about guns and fast car" are the minority of gamers, explain to me why halo, gran turismo, and grand theft auto were the highest selling games last gen? thnxinadvance. Â
Well, if you make a product that appeals to the majority of a certain market, then it will sell huge. Also, as I said, the average Xbox buyer is the market that buys the FPS and Racer. The casual gamer and gamer who wants more bought the PS2...hence the massive sales numbers to this very day. First of all, if you can appeal to %90 of a niche group, you can accomplish very high sales. It's called knowing your base.Â
But compare Halo to GT.  While Halo sold millions and probably a majority of Xbox fans bought it...GT sold millions but was a VERY small percentage of PS2 users.  See my point? Both sold huge numbers and are very popular, but in terms of percentage of user base, the PS2 game was much lower because the console appealed to a much more diverse audience.Â
As for GTA. Well, I wouldn't call that a shooter or a racer AND when GTA3 came out it was different from anything gamers had seen so far. So that helped also. Plus, the notoriety really got people interested in checking out what the fuss was about. So that is a bad example. But again, it sold like 10 million on PS2...out of roughly 100 million PS2s sold. Still a small percentage.
So your examples only probe my point. If MS wants the 360 to be the #1 console, they need all kinds of games and lots of them. They can't just rely on the same small market to taje them to the top. Â
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