If Microsoft launches next system early

How much trouble do you think Sony will be in if any?

How much trouble do you think Sony will be in if any?

keabrown79

How much trouble do you think Sony will be in if any?

keabrown79

At least this much trouble.

If microsoft launches early, they will be in more trouble than sony. They will lose exclusives because developers don't want to put that much money into a game that will only go on a system that will be on the market for 4 or 5 years, and won't get a huge base. They will loose support of a lot of people who bought the 360 (especially later) becuase those people don't want to have to get a new system all of the time in order to be able to play games. If microsoft rushes the next xbox, there is a good chance it will have another major problem like RROD and if that happens, no one will trust xbox. I don't see how rushing the xbox could be good for microsoft at all. For sony, I don't think it would hurt much. Most of those poeple, and developers who abandon microsoft will go to sony.

Plus, I can't see most people paying 300-600 dollars for a small increase in power that would result from new console released in the next few years.

If microsoft launches early, they will be in more trouble than sony. They will lose exclusives because developers don't want to put that much money into a game that will only go on a system that will be on the market for 4 or 5 years, and won't get a huge base. They will loose support of a lot of people who bought the 360 (especially later) becuase those people don't want to have to get a new system all of the time in order to be able to play games. If microsoft rushes the next xbox, there is a good chance it will have another major problem like RROD and if that happens, no one will trust xbox. I don't see how rushing the xbox could be good for microsoft at all. For sony, I don't think it would hurt much. Most of those poeple, and developers who abandon microsoft will go to sony.

Jacobistheman

i dont think sony is gonna be in trouble in japan as mr. kurt russel seems to think. but I dont see the advantage of launching a new xbox right now. the graphical improvement would be really small compared to the previous generational leaps.lloveLamp

Obviously, you haven't seen what PCS are doing now. A 100$ graphics card can max most multiplats at 2560x1600 at 30-45 FPS.

More reliability problems me thinks.

[QUOTE="lloveLamp"]i dont think sony is gonna be in trouble in japan as mr. kurt russel seems to think. but I dont see the advantage of launching a new xbox right now. the graphical improvement would be really small compared to the previous generational leaps.ChrisJ2004

Obviously, you haven't seen what PCS are doing now. A 100$ graphics card can max most multiplats at 2560x1600 at 30-45 FPS.

Which ones? Do you know? I want to buy one.

Depends what you think is early. Theres another thread talking about 2 years from now being too soon. I would think a 12.12.12 launch date would be awesome and about right.

If microsoft launches early, they will be in more trouble than sony. They will lose exclusives because developers don't want to put that much money into a game that will only go on a system that will be on the market for 4 or 5 years, and won't get a huge base. They will loose support of a lot of people who bought the 360 (especially later) becuase those people don't want to have to get a new system all of the time in order to be able to play games. If microsoft rushes the next xbox, there is a good chance it will have another major problem like RROD and if that happens, no one will trust xbox. I don't see how rushing the xbox could be good for microsoft at all. For sony, I don't think it would hurt much. Most of those poeple, and developers who abandon microsoft will go to sony.

Plus, I can't see most people paying 300-600 dollars for a small increase in power that would result from new console released in the next few years.

Jacobistheman

The irony is that the opposite has shown itself to be true. MS gained devs and took exclusives by launching early this gen. Despite losing money on RROD, they gained market share and users as well.

If MS launched a new Xbox in 2011, and Sony doesn't launch the new PS within a year, then Sony will be screwed. The same cycle will repeat itself. Devs will jump ship to make games for PC and the new Xbox(which is basically 2 for 1), the hardcore gaming base will adopt the NextBox even faster than they did for the 360, and MS will have Natal to get the casuals. MS owned Sony. The Blu-Ray dominance plan failed.

Sony won't be in trouble, they'd just be laughing their asses off at how backed up the repair centers get from Microsoft releasing another console too early.

How much trouble do you think Sony will be in if any?

keabrown79

Heck look how far into the gen we are now and Sony is last in console and handheld sales and this is off of the success of ps1 and ps2. I have to admit i am loving this!

If microsoft launches early, they will be in more trouble than sony. They will lose exclusives because developers don't want to put that much money into a game that will only go on a system that will be on the market for 4 or 5 years, and won't get a huge base. They will loose support of a lot of people who bought the 360 (especially later) becuase those people don't want to have to get a new system all of the time in order to be able to play games. If microsoft rushes the next xbox, there is a good chance it will have another major problem like RROD and if that happens, no one will trust xbox. I don't see how rushing the xbox could be good for microsoft at all. For sony, I don't think it would hurt much. Most of those poeple, and developers who abandon microsoft will go to sony.

Plus, I can't see most people paying 300-600 dollars for a small increase in power that would result from new console released in the next few years.

Jacobistheman

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How much trouble do you think Sony will be in if any?

CanYouDiglt

Heck look how far into the gen we are now and Sony is last in console and handheld sales and this is off of the success of ps1 and ps2. I have to admit i am loving this!

ya i think microsoft wants to make that mistake again and watch nintendo zoom right passed them ,,

haha ya that wont spell trouble for sony , because loo kat whats happening now, wii and ps3 are out selling 360s worldwide ,

with wii having a substansail lead ,

so if ms repeats mistake 1-release a faulty console for 300 , i am certainally not paying ,

because i have already had 7 360s break due to 3 major problems rrod disc drive problems and power problems and it has also scratched and cracked some of my games mostly gta iv ,, , for some reason and saints row `1

so ya . , good luck ms fans youll need it

they will be known as the disasters of the video game industry

and they didnt win , , if you look at these facts

1 million -so far total xboxs were modded and banned off xbox live , there for only 19 million legal 360s were sold ,

the extra is coming from those modders

2 ,, if the 360 hadnt had problems in the masses half these sales wouldnt exist -i had 4 total bought with 3 times sent into repair

so ya

plus a year lead that did not help them stay out front , in fact it was only a year later ironically ,, wii had already out sold the 360 in total sales

so do you really think after reasearch , that microsoft benefited from the extra year start?

no they actually paid the price , , billions lost to repairs ,,

and they did not lead the generation of consoles available, much like sega , has never lead their console, they had popular much more popularity the ms but they did not come close to its nearest competitor nintendo , ms is comparable to that

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How much trouble do you think Sony will be in if any?

furomaster_99

Heck look how far into the gen we are now and Sony is last in console and handheld sales and this is off of the success of ps1 and ps2. I have to admit i am loving this!

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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]I am sure they will be in a lot more trouble they are this gen. Last 2 gens they were the clear winner but this gen still last in sales and going by this website still behind the 360 in game scores. So two gens in a row of getting beat up like this Sony has no chance.

Heck look how far into the gen we are now and Sony is last in console and handheld sales and this is off of the success of ps1 and ps2. I have to admit i am loving this!

CanYouDiglt

If microsoft launches early, they will be in more trouble than sony. They will lose exclusives because developers don't want to put that much money into a game that will only go on a system that will be on the market for 4 or 5 years, and won't get a huge base. They will loose support of a lot of people who bought the 360 (especially later) becuase those people don't want to have to get a new system all of the time in order to be able to play games. If microsoft rushes the next xbox, there is a good chance it will have another major problem like RROD and if that happens, no one will trust xbox. I don't see how rushing the xbox could be good for microsoft at all. For sony, I don't think it would hurt much. Most of those poeple, and developers who abandon microsoft will go to sony.

Plus, I can't see most people paying 300-600 dollars for a small increase in power that would result from new console released in the next few years.

Jacobistheman

You're wrong. Let me explain why you're wrong:

"They will lose exclusives because developers don't want to put that much money into a game that will only go on a system that will be on the market for 4 or 5 years,"
A typical Gen is 4-5 years. Many developers said the reason why they released sequels to 360 first was because they got their developers kits way before SONY. They wanted to work on next gen right away [remember Xbox had 4 years]

"won't get a huge base."
Low install bases are lucrative for a publisher because it gives them the opportunity to release new IPs. This is why many devs switch to a new gen once a dev kits roll out because they know if they have the hottest game on a brand new console, most likely everyone who picks the system up will pick the game up.

"They will loose support of a lot of people who bought the 360 (especially later) becuase those people don't want to have to get a new system all of the time in order to be able to play games."
This is the same for all consoles. People buy consoles every 4-5 years, people in 2005-2007 will be upgrading while the recent adopters probably won't for another 3-4.

"If microsoft rushes the next xbox, there is a good chance it will have another major problem like RROD and if that happens, no one will trust xbox."
How do you know theres a "good chance" that will happen? Launching early just means they're releasing before the competition. It doesn't mean they are "rushing"

"Most of those poeple, and developers who abandon microsoft will go to sony."
Support isn't just console to console, its company to company relationships. Microsoft have been successfully building these relationships with third party devs. They are in and it isn't going away. I'd be more worried about MS's first party.

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="furomaster_99"]MS is 2nd place 2 gens in a row, and still way behind first place. That's considered awesome? Second place is the first loser, so at least you lems are first at something. ;)

furomaster_99

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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]360 is ahead of the PS3 and I am sure most lems on here just smile from ear to ear knowing that fact. The leader of the last 2 gens is still watching the backsides of the 360 and the wii after all this time.CanYouDiglt

If microsoft launches early, they will be in more trouble than sony. They will lose exclusives because developers don't want to put that much money into a game that will only go on a system that will be on the market for 4 or 5 years, and won't get a huge base. They will loose support of a lot of people who bought the 360 (especially later) becuase those people don't want to have to get a new system all of the time in order to be able to play games. If microsoft rushes the next xbox, there is a good chance it will have another major problem like RROD and if that happens, no one will trust xbox. I don't see how rushing the xbox could be good for microsoft at all. For sony, I don't think it would hurt much. Most of those poeple, and developers who abandon microsoft will go to sony.

Plus, I can't see most people paying 300-600 dollars for a small increase in power that would result from new console released in the next few years.

I think if Microsoft shouldnt really release a whole new console, but upgrade the 360 with Blu-Ray, package it with Natal w/ game, and maybe even do a hardware upgrade for better performance. All you have to do is swap the hard drive from your old 360 into the new one.

Depends completely on what both MS and Sony are trying to do. After the flat-lining Wii sales, i dont think neither of them is considering going casual anymore.GulliversTravel

explain why wii still beat both hardcore consoles last month then

and anyway MS would probably release their console in 2011 since many different engines would come by then. Although I dont expect a major jump from this gen I do expect NATAL to be bundled with it and I expect a $300 price tag because as the WII and the PS3 haveproven price is a major factor in console purchases.

[QUOTE="lloveLamp"]i dont think sony is gonna be in trouble in japan as mr. kurt russel seems to think. but I dont see the advantage of launching a new xbox right now. the graphical improvement would be really small compared to the previous generational leaps.ChrisJ2004

Obviously, you haven't seen what PCS are doing now. A 100$ graphics card can max most multiplats at 2560x1600 at 30-45 FPS.

None becuz they most likely will want alot of money for the new console that they are not going to get from most people this time around due to the high failure rate of next gen console systems. Its bound to be alot worse.

Usually it takes awhile for these companies out there to decide if they even want to cover someting that is their fault. As MS recently did something about rrod but it took awhile and sony does nothing right now with ylod but that could change. Like I said when its their fault they are looking to make as much as possilbe whether its ethical or unethical.

If microsoft launches early, they will be in more trouble than sony. They will lose exclusives because developers don't want to put that much money into a game that will only go on a system that will be on the market for 4 or 5 years, and won't get a huge base. They will loose support of a lot of people who bought the 360 (especially later) becuase those people don't want to have to get a new system all of the time in order to be able to play games. If microsoft rushes the next xbox, there is a good chance it will have another major problem like RROD and if that happens, no one will trust xbox. I don't see how rushing the xbox could be good for microsoft at all. For sony, I don't think it would hurt much. Most of those poeple, and developers who abandon microsoft will go to sony.

Plus, I can't see most people paying 300-600 dollars for a small increase in power that would result from new console released in the next few years.

Jacobistheman

did it hurt when you pulled all that out your ***?

am a xbox fan,but if sony didnt compete nex gen it would make me mad and sad,but there still nintendo!

What is "early"?

Because 2011 is "ontime".

Plus, I can't see most people paying 300-600 dollars for a small increase in power that would result from new console released in the next few years.

Jacobistheman

There will most likely be a bigger leap in power going from this gen to next than there was last gen to this gen.

Mainly because of how this gen is going to last longer than last gen.

Personally, I cant wait. :)

i think the new console will be launched in late 2011, there is no reason to launch a new one right now the 360 is doing great, i suspect Sony will launch a new console early too to make up for the PS3's utter failureWings_008

[QUOTE="Wings_008"]i think the new console will be launched in late 2011, there is no reason to launch a new one right now the 360 is doing great, i suspect Sony will launch a new console early too to make up for the PS3's utter failurefuromaster_99

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]360 is ahead of the PS3 and I am sure most lems on here just smile from ear to ear knowing that fact. The leader of the last 2 gens is still watching the backsides of the 360 and the wii after all this time.furomaster_99

They don't care about being in 1st place, or whatever. Just as long as their console is profitable. Plus Nintendo may have won in sales, but they didn't win in the most important category of the gaming industry: Games.

The irony is that the opposite has shown itself to be true. MS gained devs and took exclusives by launching early this gen. Despite losing money on RROD, they gained market share and users as well.

If MS launched a new Xbox in 2011, and Sony doesn't launch the new PS within a year, then Sony will be screwed. The same cycle will repeat itself. Devs will jump ship to make games for PC and the new Xbox(which is basically 2 for 1), the hardcore gaming base will adopt the NextBox even faster than they did for the 360, and MS will have Natal to get the casuals. MS owned Sony. The Blu-Ray dominance plan failed.

gamecubepad

Indeed. A lot of people aren't going to care if a certain gaming system comes out much, much later. Look at both Gamecube & X-Box 1. X-Box first arrived back on November 15, 2001 in the U.S., while Gamecube first arrived in September 14, 2001 in Japan. They came out longer after the PS2 came out, & both of them were more powerful than the PS2, but last gen was already decided that the PS2 was the winner (with X-Box coming in 2nd place with 22 million units, & Gamecube came out in 3rd place with about 21.74 million units), & they already have about 140+ million units sold. People want to play games now, not later.

[QUOTE="furomaster_99"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]It seems like the xbox is used to watching a back side for two gens in a row...Going for a third?

garland51

They don't care about being in 1st place, or whatever. Just as long as their console is profitable.

The irony is that the opposite has shown itself to be true. MS gained devs and took exclusives by launching early this gen. Despite losing money on RROD, they gained market share and users as well.

If MS launched a new Xbox in 2011, and Sony doesn't launch the new PS within a year, then Sony will be screwed. The same cycle will repeat itself. Devs will jump ship to make games for PC and the new Xbox(which is basically 2 for 1), the hardcore gaming base will adopt the NextBox even faster than they did for the 360, and MS will have Natal to get the casuals. MS owned Sony. The Blu-Ray dominance plan failed.

gamecubepad

Indeed. A lot of people aren't going to care if a certain gaming system comes out much, much later. Look at both Gamecube & X-Box 1. X-Box first arrived back on November 15, 2001 in the U.S., while Gamecube first arrived in September 14, 2001 in Japan. They came out longer after the PS2 came out, & both of them were more powerful than the PS2, but last gen was already decided that the PS2 was the winner (with X-Box coming in 2nd place with 22 million units, & Gamecube came out in 3rd place with about 21.74 million units), & they already have about 140+ million units sold. People want to play games now, not later.

Sony is releasing systems left and right, not only systems but good quality ones too. They are also releasing constant updates for the PS3 System, as well as the PSP System. The only thing I will give Microsoft, is that whenever I owned an Xbox 360 Elite, I got the dashboard update that added the ability to have clothes and whatnot for your avatar. So far though Sony has a rather large head start in the gaming industry.