If MS did n't enter the gaming industry

 I think the PS3 would n't have had a blue-ray in it and the graphic will be Xbox graphics, and since nintendo doesn't care about graphic they are more innovative Sony wouldn't have pushed their console to far. and it stays between them both.

What you think.

If MS didn't enter the console market, we would have the ps2 until 2010.SIP_YEK_NOD

lol!

Nooo, it would just be a very boring PS3. 

If MS did n't enter the gaming industry...the industry would have been a better place.hyruledweller

The more competition the better. You have more choice.

Competition is a GOOD thing. I wish you fracking commies, could get a life.

 I think the PS3 would n't have had a blue-ray in it and the graphic will be Xbox graphics, and since nintendo doesn't care about graphic they are more innovative Sony wouldn't have pushed their console to far. and it stays between them both.

What you think.

SolidSnake2020

The Blue-ray isn't in PS3 because of Microsoft, its in there because Sony wanted to use its dominance in the game industry to push its format as a winner. Whether Microsoft was in the industry or not Sony would push its format in the PS3 because they didn't want another Betamax. It is actually a great thing that Microsoft entered the gaming industry because it served as a wake up call for Sony and maybe next time they wont be as arrogant as they were this generation.

If MS did n't enter the gaming industry...the industry would have been a better place.hyruledweller

Only a fanboy like yourself couldn't realize the contributions MS made in the gaming buisness.

[QUOTE="hyruledweller"]If MS did n't enter the gaming industry...the industry would have been a better place.Sir_Graham

The more competition the better. You have more choice.

 So where is the choice right now, with all the good games going multiplat?

If MS never existed in a gaming world, online gaming would be a disaster(Dreamcast). Halo would'nt be the single best Console FPS of all time for consoles, we wouldnt have HDD in our Consoles either. PS2 was supposed to last 10 years and thanks to MS releasing their next-gen console, some people get to enjoy PS3 and all its prowess, without the 10 year wait. Not to mention X360 was the first to shorten the gap between PC-like performance on a console.

Lets be realistic here, Online gaming probably wouldn't of evolved as much because Sony didn't have a good set-up for PS2 and Nintendo just plain DON'T care about it. I think without the Xbox, Halo would of been "another" great FPS on PC and most of the Xbox exclusives like Ninja Gaiden, Forza, KOTOR...Fable Etc...would of gone to PC and PS2.

I think the PS3 would of not been out until fall 2007..because 360 wouln't of exisited...no pressure from Nintendo as PS2 was resisting most Wii sales and Sony could launch PS3 with a smaller price point and more games. Mind you PS3 would of had a much bigger userbase of HD gamers.

[QUOTE="hyruledweller"]If MS did n't enter the gaming industry...the industry would have been a better place.DA_B0MB

Only a fanboy like yourself couldn't realize the contributions MS made in the gaming buisness.

yeah, their "bribe the developers so the game is exclusive on our system" strategy really helped the gaming business!

seriously, I can't stand their monopolistic tactics. they do this on as many fronts as possible: computers, operating systems, and now game consoles. they are sneaky and underhanded. don't give me the whole "but all game companies are like that!" spiel. microsoft is the worst, with their CEO as the most arrogant geek on the planet, more than all of sony. MS doesn't believe in competition, they believe in totally crushing all opposition in any way. honestly, they would not be this appealing once they achieved market dominance, jacking up the price with their "optional" add-ons to whatever console they will have in the future. I don't trust them, no matter how fun or appealing their games may be, they are still not nice people.

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[QUOTE="hyruledweller"]If MS did n't enter the gaming industry...the industry would have been a better place.Mordred19

Only a fanboy like yourself couldn't realize the contributions MS made in the gaming buisness.

yeah, their "bribe the developers so the game is exclusive on our system" strategy really helped the gaming business!

seriously, I can't stand their monopolistic tactics. they do this on as many fronts as possible: computers, operating systems, and now game consoles. they are sneaky and underhanded. don't give me the whole "but all game companies are like that!" spiel. microsoft is the worst, with their CEO as the most arrogant geek on the planet, more than all of sony. MS doesn't believe in competition, they believe in totally crushing all opposition in any way. honestly, they would not be this appealing once they achieved market dominance, jacking up the price with their "optional" add-ons to whatever console they will have in the future. I don't trust them, no matter how fun or appealing their games may be, they are still not nice people.

Agreed, thank you! 

If MS did n't enter the gaming industry...the industry would have been a better place.hyruledweller

No  

If MS did n't enter the gaming industry...the industry would have been a better place.hyruledweller

i disagree.   

If MS did n't enter the gaming industry...the industry would have been a better place.hyruledweller

How? Do you want a crappy PS3 with garbage graphics that costs like $1000???  MS has brought great things to the industry.

Well, when talking about the gaming industry I think Microsoft contribute a great deal, but as for the console market they've done nothing to say they were needed. PS2 already had plans to come with HDD and online. They was just slow to make it happen. As for Halo? That's giving credit to the wrong team. Thank Bungie not Microsoft. When it comes to console gaming Microsoft perfected the cut and paste tactic. If you realize how MS got it great games, it was all thanks to Windows OS money. Paying off a developer one at a time.Socrates88

if it wasn't for microsoft buying bungie; the halo would have remained a simple RTS game for the mac. so part of the credit does go to them.

Hm... i dont know.  M$ revolutionized online gaming (much more than the DC did).  Also, M$ have forced $ony to not milk their consumers as much and try to appeal to more people by making great games instead of just monopolizing the industry like they did with the PS1/2.

So, i think the industry is a better place now with M$. 

[QUOTE="Socrates88"]Well, when talking about the gaming industry I think Microsoft contribute a great deal, but as for the console market they've done nothing to say they were needed. PS2 already had plans to come with HDD and online. They was just slow to make it happen. As for Halo? That's giving credit to the wrong team. Thank Bungie not Microsoft. When it comes to console gaming Microsoft perfected the cut and paste tactic. If you realize how MS got it great games, it was all thanks to Windows OS money. Paying off a developer one at a time.lawlessx

if it wasn't for microsoft buying bungie; the halo would have remained a simple RTS game for the mac. so part of the credit does go to them.

If the guy who created Bungie wanted it to be a Buger joint and not a Gaming software company, we wouldn't even have the idea of a Halo. You see what i did there? 

[QUOTE="hyruledweller"]If MS did n't enter the gaming industry...the industry would have been a better place.bri360

How? Do you want a crappy PS3 with garbage graphics that costs like $1000???  MS has brought great things to the industry.

All multiplatform games would be only on PS3, looking like garbage with washed out colors, no A+HDR, and 1/2 the resolutioin textures than 360 gives

A pure disaster, 360 with the best hardware simply wins, i would rather have Wii or PS3 not release at all

Hm... i dont know.  M$ revolutionized online gaming (much more than the DC did).  Also, M$ have forced $ony to not milk their consumers as much and try to appeal to more people by making great games instead of just monopolizing the industry like they did with the PS1/2.

So, i think the industry is a better place now with M$. 

helium_flash

I'm sorry but how did the PS1/2 monopolize gaming? I'm pretty sure Sony never bought out any company, they all went to the PS1/2 themselves Sony never forced them to (unlike one company whos in the console gaming now).

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Hm... i dont know. M$ revolutionized online gaming (much more than the DC did). Also, M$ have forced $ony to not milk their consumers as much and try to appeal to more people by making great games instead of just monopolizing the industry like they did with the PS1/2.

So, i think the industry is a better place now with M$.

KrazyKev26

I'm sorry but how did the PS1/2 monopolize gaming? I'm pretty sure Sony never bought out any company, they all went to the PS1/2 themselves Sony never forced them to (unlike one company whos in the console gaming now).

A misinformed gamer he is...

1. Sony never monoplize the console market
2. Nintendo shun 3rd parties i.e. Squaresoft, and Sony welcome them with open arms
3. Nintendo always wanted the seal of approval on there games. 3rd parties didn't like it, so Sony was the preferred choice
4. Sony is a Japanese company. They don't need to pay out for a Japanese developing company to support them. Loyalty to ones nation.
5.  Even as today, people criticize Sony for not paying out the doe to keep their games exclusive.  No, I don't want Sony to scoop to the level of greed like Microsoft.

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Hm... i dont know. M$ revolutionized online gaming (much more than the DC did). Also, M$ have forced $ony to not milk their consumers as much and try to appeal to more people by making great games instead of just monopolizing the industry like they did with the PS1/2.

So, i think the industry is a better place now with M$.

Socrates88

I'm sorry but how did the PS1/2 monopolize gaming? I'm pretty sure Sony never bought out any company, they all went to the PS1/2 themselves Sony never forced them to (unlike one company whos in the console gaming now).

A misinformed gamer he is...

1. Sony never monoplize the console market
2. Nintendo shun 3rd parties i.e. Squaresoft, and Sony welcome them with open arms
3. Nintendo always wanted the seal of approval on there games. 3rd parties didn't like it, so Sony was the preferred choice
4. Sony is a Japanese company. They don't need to pay out for a Japanese developing company to support them. Loyalty to ones nation.
5.  Even as today, people criticize Sony for not paying out the doe to keep their games exclusive.  No, I don't want Sony to scoop to the level of greed like Microsoft.

Timed exclusives for GTA VC, and SA tell you Sony is just as 'greed' as MS.

If MS didn't enter the gaming department, there would be no such thing as pc games.Codename33

Blu-ray doesn't have anything to do with MS being in the game industry. If anything this generation would be far better without MS forcing it to start early. PS3 would've seen a staggered 2007 launch likely with a better GPU. This year is the year this gereration really starts..... MS just blew it starting way too early. MS is leeching off of PC gaming and transforming console gaming into this hybrid that really only appeals to a niche, albeit a "hard-core" one. Lazy_Boy88

Thats competition. How do you expect to grow/get better if you have nothing inspiring/competing againts you. There has to be a start somewhere to encourage change and growth. Why don't you realize this.

Microsoft has been in the game industry well before the Xbox...

If MS didn't enter the industry...Halo would be an RTS on the Mac. And Mac gaming would be what Microsoft is today.Bansheesdie

yeah, their "bribe the developers so the game is exclusive on our system" strategy really helped the gaming business!

Mordred19

LOL - what world are you living in? Sony has been doing this way way way waaaaay more often than any other console manufacturer out there have ever done. And still you crap on MS. Incredible.

A console market without MS would :

1) Have made us wait until at least 2010 before Sony stopped milking the PS2 and gave us some new hardware.

2) Not have online for consoles. Because 'it isn't needed' according to some companies...

3) Not have any great FPS-games for consoles - a trend largely started by XBox (and the online capabilities). 

If MS didn't enter the console market, we would have the ps2 until 2010.SIP_YEK_NOD

If MS didn't enter the "console gaming industry", I would still be only playing on my PC.

Haven't bought a console since the SNES, only been PC gaming since then. And if the 360 never came out, I most likely would of never bought either a PS3 or Wii and would still be PC gaming.

Competition is the key, having 3 consoles only makes it better for all console owners.

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[QUOTE="hyruledweller"]If MS did n't enter the gaming industry...the industry would have been a better place.Mordred19

Only a fanboy like yourself couldn't realize the contributions MS made in the gaming buisness.

yeah, their "bribe the developers so the game is exclusive on our system" strategy really helped the gaming business!

seriously, I can't stand their monopolistic tactics. they do this on as many fronts as possible: computers, operating systems, and now game consoles. they are sneaky and underhanded. don't give me the whole "but all game companies are like that!" spiel. microsoft is the worst, with their CEO as the most arrogant geek on the planet, more than all of sony. MS doesn't believe in competition, they believe in totally crushing all opposition in any way. honestly, they would not be this appealing once they achieved market dominance, jacking up the price with their "optional" add-ons to whatever console they will have in the future. I don't trust them, no matter how fun or appealing their games may be, they are still not nice people.

Every now and then, people make a post which guarantees they will never again be taken seriously on system wars. This is your post.

Bribe the developers? Are you kidding? They sign contracts. They make deals. It's been that way for decades? BRIBE the developers? It's not like Sony had a contract with Rockstar to keep Grand Theft Auto on their system for years, is it?  Sheesh.

And i love how you take the typical stance of "microsoft and bill gates are teh evil". Bill Gates gives more to charity every year than the entire sony game division even earns. I'd love to see Sony establsih a company with the soul purpose of finding people who need money and then giving it to them.

 And finally; i'd like to see one "underhanded" tactic you're whining about. It's not like Sony put rootkits on people's computers or anything.

Entire post = nonsense.