If M$/Sony take the Wii route next gen?

Lets say M$/Sony get tired of burning cash (360 RROD warranty escape/PS3 Cell debacle) and see how Nintendo is laughing and sweating all the way from the bank carrying all that cash....and decide enough is enough....

So what we get is both machines with SAME hardware with some kind of motion control....

If they do that what you gonna do?

Lets say M$/Sony get tired of burning cash (360 RROD warranty escape/PS3 Cell debacle) and see how Nintendo is laughing and sweating all the way from the bank carrying all that cash....and decide enough is enough....

So what we get is both machines with SAME hardware with some kind of motion control....

If they do that what you gonna do?

True_Gamer_

not gonna happen.

the hardware will improve. i still do not want to see motion controls. just improve the hardware.

but if it happens. the graphics will be improved, the hardware better, hopefully better hardware quality, and probably motion controls. but atleast we get the graphics to go with it hopefully.

ill be pissed if the the graphics are not improved with the hardware and they take a ninty approach.

I have no problem with that...Just as long as MS or Sony could measure it out by releasing MORE hardcore games than casual ones.sargentbotk

Mind you they both having SAME hardware as current gen...

not gonna happen.

the hardware will improve. i still do not want to see motion controls. just improve the hardware.

but if it happens. the graphics will be improved, the hardware better, hopefully better hardware quality, and probably motion controls. but atleast we get the graphics to go with it hopefully.

ill be pissed if the the graphics are not improved with the hardware and they take a ninty approach.

xbox360isgr8t

Is it me or your appear to be the definition of a graphics w****e? :) just joking...

I most likely will quit gaming unless motion sensing proves itself in my eyes.too_much_eslim

I qould welcome motion sensing controls with open arms if they implement it correctly and actually put it to really good use.

I will game exclusively on PC and handhelds.VanHelsingBoA64

[QUOTE="xbox360isgr8t"]

not gonna happen.

the hardware will improve. i still do not want to see motion controls. just improve the hardware.

but if it happens. the graphics will be improved, the hardware better, hopefully better hardware quality, and probably motion controls. but atleast we get the graphics to go with it hopefully.

ill be pissed if the the graphics are not improved with the hardware and they take a ninty approach.

True_Gamer_

Is it me or your appear to be the definition of a graphics w****e? :) just joking...

no i want to see atleast sony and ms continue to push the graphics as best they can on the consoles. i do not want to see them take steps back. i know ninty aint all about graphics thats why i no longer go with them. no im not a pc gamer either. i just like my consoles.

Then very sadly, after 22 years of gaming (will be more than that by then) I will hang up my controllers for good.

Still may play some pc games though.

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]I most likely will quit gaming unless motion sensing proves itself in my eyes.sargentbotk

I qould welcome motion sensing controls with open arms if they implement it correctly and actually put it to really good use.

Nintendo followed the Sony route. Sony lost its way by trying to cater to the hardcore. They'll find their way back.

MS is already heading that way. Look at them promote Lips. They want that game to do extremely well.

I will game exclusively on PC and handhelds.VanHelsingBoA64

PC is the most casual system out there, even more so than the Wii. Not one game can beat out Solitaire and the myriad of free casual games on the internet that the PC has access to.

Handhelds are already casual.

PC is the most casual system out there, even more so than the Wii. Not one game can beat out Solitaire and the myriad of free casual games on the internet that the PC has access to.

Handhelds are already casual.

Zhengi

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]PC is the most casual system out there, even more so than the Wii. Not one game can beat out Solitaire and the myriad of free casual games on the internet that the PC has access to.

Handhelds are already casual.

foxhound_fox

Who's talking about core games? We're talking about casual games. Please don't go off subject. All that stuff you wrote still doesn't make it untrue that the most casual system is the PC. In fact, since those casual games haven't affected the PC's performance, why is everyone fretting as if having casual games on any system is a bad thing? Just boggles the mind.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Zhengi"]PC is the most casual system out there, even more so than the Wii. Not one game can beat out Solitaire and the myriad of free casual games on the internet that the PC has access to.

Handhelds are already casual.

Zhengi

Who's talking about core games? We're talking about casual games. Please don't go off subject. All that stuff you wrote still doesn't make it untrue that the most casual system is the PC. In fact, since those casual games haven't affected the PC's performance, why is everyone fretting as if having casual games on any system is a bad thing? Just boggles the mind.

[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Zhengi"]PC is the most casual system out there, even more so than the Wii. Not one game can beat out Solitaire and the myriad of free casual games on the internet that the PC has access to.

Handhelds are already casual.

too_much_eslim

Who's talking about core games? We're talking about casual games. Please don't go off subject. All that stuff you wrote still doesn't make it untrue that the most casual system is the PC. In fact, since those casual games haven't affected the PC's performance, why is everyone fretting as if having casual games on any system is a bad thing? Just boggles the mind.

I think the Wiimote will be a standard from now on. There are just more benefits to having motion control than not having it. We really are getting closer and closer to virtual reality and I'm glad this is happening, and hopefully it'll be realized in my lifetime cause I'd hate to miss out on this revolution.

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Zhengi"]

Who's talking about core games? We're talking about casual games. Please don't go off subject. All that stuff you wrote still doesn't make it untrue that the most casual system is the PC. In fact, since those casual games haven't affected the PC's performance, why is everyone fretting as if having casual games on any system is a bad thing? Just boggles the mind.

Zhengi

I think the Wiimote will be a standard from now on. There are just more benefits to having motion control than not having it. We really are getting closer and closer to virtual reality and I'm glad this is happening, and hopefully it'll be realized in my lifetime cause I'd hate to miss out on this revolution.

Also unless motion sensing really proves itself it can't become a standard. It hasn't really shown its benefits.

Who's talking about core games? We're talking about casual games. Please don't go off subject. All that stuff you wrote still doesn't make it untrue that the most casual system is the PC. In fact, since those casual games haven't affected the PC's performance, why is everyone fretting as if having casual games on any system is a bad thing? Just boggles the mind. Zhengi

They won't.

It's simple; Nintendo + hardcore= lose

Nintendo - hardcore= a crapload of gamers who said, "Screw it, I'm going elsewhere."

If they go casual, they lose a TON, if not all of their fanbase.

Not only that, but they'll be exposed as copycats, and suddenly that's one fanbase they'll never recover.

virtual reality will never happen because it will deal with your mental state. ANything that confuse you and make you see and react to things that aren't really there will cause problems. I was once excited about that concept, but i think it is best not to get involve with something that can really do harm.

Also unless motion sensing really proves itself it can't become a standard. It hasn't really shown its benefits.

too_much_eslim

We'll see about virtual reality. It's quite possible that our vision of virtual reality will be quite different from the actual realization. I'm just glad we're taking steps towards it rather than relying purely on buttons.

Well, I think you're wrong about that. Motion control has actually shown a lot of benefits including bringing more people into the folds of gaming. If you think about it, the Wii is truly the first successful system to effectively bring motion sensing technology to the masses. This could have further implications outside of gaming. I wish I could think up of some examples, but if I could, I would probably be a millionaire rather than working for scraps here right now :lol:

I just think there will be a lot that will come out of this.

But the casual games on the Wii are affecting the core offerings... they are becoming fewer and far between as time goes on while we are bombarded by shelf-loads of crap. There are some great games on the Wii but there is far, *far* too much crap. At least the PC offers a fair dose of everything for everyone.foxhound_fox

How are they affecting the core offerings? Did you see TGS? Loads of core games being announced along with casual games. And it only seems like it's few and far between because generally, core games take longer to make than casual games. This has always been the case. Do you think that the 360 or PS3 would not be inundated with shovelware if they were the leading console saleswise? Imagine the start of this year. Casual game after casual game being released until last month. You would feel that the core games would also be few and far in between as well.

How are they affecting the core offerings? Did you see TGS? Loads of core games being announced along with casual games. And it only seems like it's few and far between because generally, core games take longer to make than casual games. This has always been the case. Do you think that the 360 or PS3 would not be inundated with shovelware if they were the leading console saleswise? Imagine the start of this year. Casual game after casual game being released until last month. You would feel that the core games would also be few and far in between as well.Zhengi