If Nintendo doesn't release Switch games on the Wii U they are scums

Apparently the power gap between the docked Wii U and Switch isn't even big. The Wii U is likely more powerful than the undocked Switch.

Nintendo previously said they would end Wii U production. Console has been out for less than 5 years. Xbox 360/PS3 still get support over a decade after their release dates.

Splatoon 2, Mario Odyssey, Xenoblade 2 along with a bunch of others could run on the Wii U so why just ditch it and screw over millions of gamers who supported your garbage console?

That's a bit of an overreaction if I ever saw one. They want to drop the WiiU like the dead weight it is, and I certainly don't blame them.

Yeah...no

How is it an overreaction? You're announcing you're going to discontinue a system not even 5 years into its life and release a barely more capable one and won't release the games for the older one screwing 12 million of users in the process. That's a scumbag move.

Wait I thought everyone hated the Wii U.

I agree but that's why I didn't buy the pos, I knew the whole situation would be a disaster.

No they aren't.

Most people do. The change of heart occurred when Nintendo announced the Switch which is WiiU 2.0 without any real upgrade in performance. Now the WiiU looks like a gem.

Its not happening, why undercut their Switch sales?

@Pedro: So now what... the masses will just start supporting the Wii U and buying games for the Wii U out of spite? I doubt it.

SW been saying Nintendo needs to separate from the Wii U for years. Now they are, and knickers get twisted.

Exactly. The Wii-U hardware is no gem. It's still a POS. But when you release a system that barely beats the already existing POS, people are gonna ask - why not just keep supporting the POS? What Nintendo is doing here (marketing as a home console) makes no sense. This should have been marketed as the 3DS replacement, and the Wii-U should have had a hardware revision to keep it going 2 more years...both for those that already own the system and those that might get in with a hardware revision. That is until a proper next gen replacement home console could be conceived.

Switch is the perfect name for the system, as in Bait and Switch.

Porting the games over would take more effort than you think.

I don't think they are close in specs. If that is perceived in the software atm, then that is likely just early-console awkwardness and a lack of ground up development with the full hardware. The best guesses out there have the Switch at roughly twice the teraflops.

It's also a different architecture. Switch uses ARM chips. Switch doesn't have dual screen gaming. The WiiU doesn't have joycons.

So is it really worth it to Nintendo to port these over to the WiiU, when that system doesn't even have much user base to justify it? They must support the Switch above all right now, and that is the best way to serve Nintendo customers because the more the Switch sells, the more likely it is that third parties support the system.

The one thing I'd wonder about is MarioKart 8. It would be nice for Nintendo to at least port over some of those deluxe features to the WiiU version, seeing how it was a bit ridiculous that MK8 didn't have a proper battle mode. It couldn't be that hard to port that stuff over since it is the same game aside from that an a couple other things.

I am not sure how you drew that conclusion. Also Nintendo did not separate itself from the WiiU it actually repackaged it with more Wii functionality

Forget about the Wiiu for a second, will Nintendo continue supporting the 3DS with good games?

I think they will move away from it like there is no tomorrow. They will keep releasing games like Pokemon (shovelwares), though.

Nah...but I preordered breath of the wild on both wii u and switch. Gonna keep the wii u copy sealed. That thing is going to be a big collector's item. I doubt they'll make more after the initial launch.

I'll give them the pass on that if it improves the chances they rebound- and I think it will.

For leaving 12 million customers behind yes they are.

But if they do release them on the WiiU, they're idiots.

Rock and a hard place.

Eh, not really. The system is dead in the water, and has had years of support. They have no obligation to support an older system.

The overreaction is in calling them scum or scumbags.

Supporting the system isn't a sign of idiocy. It's a sign that you give back to your customers.

What customers? The minority that only manage to sell above 10 million? LOL!

It had 3 and a half years of support. Let's be honest, 2016 was dead for the Wii U.

The system still sold 12 million units and millions are still playing it. They have no obligation which is exactly why they're choosing not to. Thanks for stating the obvious.

@Pedro: I drew that conclusion because it is what is implied in the thread title.

I don't care how many more schmegabytes are in or not in the Switch. It's a new console with new games, I'm sorry if you can't accept that. Power is not why I go to consoles.

The Wii Sold 100 million units, and majority were still playing it, they had no obligation to abandon that fanbase for the Wii U which is now a failure.

Both MS and Sony are supporting their systems all the way to end. Even the 360 got Rise of Tomb Raider after 2 years of Xbox One being on the market. The PS4Pro and the Scorpio are not going to leave the original install base behind. So, it is a valid criticism. The Switch is not in a league of its own performance wise and is marginally better when docked. Games that can run on the Switch can also run on the WiiU. With its competitors supporting earlier systems it leaves Nintendo being the one to abandon their existing hardware for new hardware that is the most marginally better system to have exclusives.

It's not worth it to make games for both the Wii U and the Switch. Most of the current Wii U user base is probably moving on to the Switch so it's already small user base will be that much smaller.

Didn't stop devs from porting games from the PS3 to PS4 despite the architectural differences.

That just makes Nintendo seem more scummy.

The Wii was also supported for over 8 years. Wii U isn't even 5 years old.

Yeah, I mean in terms of running a business they'd be idiots lol.

I mean, I'm with you man. The portability of the Switch does nothing for me, I'm going to use it as a console. So of course I'd rather just get all those games on the WiiU instead of buying a new console. Unless there would be some sizable performance difference or something, I'd be just fine playing those games on WiiU if it were an option. I'D WELCOME THAT.

But Nintendo isn't going to see any more success from the WiiU. It was dead from the start, I'm surprised that they supported it as much as they did.

Now they're hoping to make some waves with a new platform. They're banking on new branding, portability, and a unified development ecosystem bringing them some success. Though Nintendo, much more so than any other console maker, depends on having exclusive content to move units. Without exclusive content on the Switch they'll be signing their own death sentence in the long run.

So yes, I do get your point. You're seeing Nintendos actions as anti-consumer and not "for the gamers", fine. But it would still be an idiotic decision for them nonetheless.

The WiiU was a failed system.. Nintendo knew this a few years ago (when people stopped buying it..lol).

The switch.. IMO.. will likely fail within 2 yrs.. unless i see a HUGE avalanche of 3rd party support.

Not going to happen. WiiU install base is too small to bother.

From a business standpoint I 100% understand their decision. From a customer standpoint I can't get on board with that. Guess which side I'm on?

They need to create incentive for people to buy their new product. It's shitty but it makes sense considering they are trying to make a profit.

Absolutely man, me too. Same stance I have on the Scalebound drama.

All I'm saying is that I understand the bottom line reality of the situation(s). And it seems you do too. So we're good lol.

I have one and I think it's garbage, it's better if people moved on. Nintendo should've gotten minus rep points for the way they handled the Wii U.

Stock does drop with every Switch announcement so people are vigilant at least.

Look at the pricing of the console, peripherals and soon to be the online service. You think they're not scummy?

You really expect Nintendo to tie the hands of their developers trying to support a dead platform? That's neither sensible or wise. They delivered Zelda for it as promised. They did their part to support the WiiU as best as they could with what they had. At least it is being sent off in admirable fashion.

Personally wished that Mario Kart 8 and Zelda weren't on Wii U.

I'd have more reason to buy a Switch then xD

Am I the only one that finds it strange when people apply moral standards (in terms of capital gains, political issues are a different story) in regards to corporations? Yeah, the criticism is absolutely reasonable in this case but let's not act like Nintendo owes Wii U owners anything. They don't care about you. No company cares about you. They care about your purchasing power. I mean, I'm not trying to stifle discussion but it's like, "Yup, the sky is blue." Like who on earth would expect them to continue to support a dead platform?

the better analogy would be porting from the ps4 to the ps3. It is much, much easier to port from old hardware to new hardware than the reverse. Extra power can smooth over architectural differences. Making up a power deficit takes a lot of work. That's why third parties were not quick to port to the wiiu, and it's the challenge the Switch faces now.

Nintendo is a scum.. They release a super under power console and dare to charge this kind of price!

So very true. It's like when the ps4 came out...you could get a game on both systems for a long time...and there's lots of games still coming out...Nintendo is terrible.

The switch is too overpriced imo

The Wii U has been on life support for a few years and now the decision has been made to formally pull the plug and/or remove the feeding tube. Unless you've just become familiar with the Wii U, the way Nintendo has addressed the U should be well known.

why support dead weight? only 13 million sold. the number still connecting to nintendos servers on a regular basis is probably way way lower than that (i would be surprised if its over 5 million world wide).

its not like porting wiiu games to the switch of switch games to the wiiu would be trivial. the performance may be similar but the architecture is completely different. the hardware is very different. porting would take money, people and time. money, people and time that could be used to improve output on the switch.

if the wiiu still had a high level of engagement. if it still had strong software sales then it could be justified. but it doesnt. its been dead for well over a year now. very few people use it on a regular basis. most are in mothballs.

Im not going to make villains out of Nintendo over something that makes business sense right now for them.

Sometimes drama gets tossed around in the gaming community and it can sometimes detract from the point.

By TCs logic, all Vita games should be on Ps3

As an owner of the Wii U, I want Nintendo to stop straddling themselves with the dang thing and jettison it as soon as they get the chance. Which was a year and a half ago, so they've already kept the stupid thing on life support for far too long in my estimation.

They should. I was very annoyed when SEGA did the same thing with the Saturn, so I held off on getting a Dreamcast for a few months, because as a consumer, they had lost my trust. Though to their credit, that was a huge jump in power, and the Dreamcast had an insanely good lineup.