if the DS has taught you wii haters anything its that...

shovelware is all part of a inovative consoles beginings, developers needed to grasp the limits of what the DS and its touch screen control was capable of, it took a bit before games on the DS either used the touch screen to truely bring up gameplay value or stick with the buttons, barely using the touch screen if at all, casual games were also a huge part ofthe DSes beginings, but look at what we have now, we have truely hardcore games like contra 4, mario kart and megaman ZX.

i'm gona pull a cow here and say to you all " Just wait, DS had an exparimental cycle and its share of casual games, now we have truely hardcore titles on DS, same will be true for the wii, just wait."

Since when are games such as mario kart and Contrea hardcore?

shovelware is all part of a inovative consoles beginings, developers needed to grasp the limits of what the DS and its touch screen control was capable of, it took a bit before games on the DS either used the touch screen to truely bring up gameplay value or stick with the buttons, barely using the touch screen if at all, casual games were also a huge part ofthe DSes beginings, but look at what we have now, we have truely hardcore games like contra 4, mario kart and megaman ZX.

i'm gona pull a cow here and say to you all " Just wait, DS had an exparimental cycle and its share of casual games, now we have truely hardcore titles on DS, same will be true for the wii, just wait."

darkspineslayer

My DShave turned to crap on me, I can't even play a decent game of Mortal Kombat Online without the system cutting off in the middle of the game. Now I got to deal with Nintendo's pushy warranty and repair service. I still love it.

Wii what?

[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]

shovelware is all part of a inovative consoles beginings, developers needed to grasp the limits of what the DS and its touch screen control was capable of, it took a bit before games on the DS either used the touch screen to truely bring up gameplay value or stick with the buttons, barely using the touch screen if at all, casual games were also a huge part ofthe DSes beginings, but look at what we have now, we have truely hardcore games like contra 4, mario kart and megaman ZX.

i'm gona pull a cow here and say to you all " Just wait, DS had an exparimental cycle and its share of casual games, now we have truely hardcore titles on DS, same will be true for the wii, just wait."

flashattackfina

Since when are games such as mario kart and Contra hardcore?

omgimba

Your kidding right? Contra has always been a hardcore game.

Since when are games such as mario kart and Contrea hardcore?

omgimba

I hope to God that there is a game by the name of Contrea for the DS, because Contra IS a hardcore series. The difficulty alone is hardcore.

[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]

shovelware is all part of a inovative consoles beginings, developers needed to grasp the limits of what the DS and its touch screen control was capable of, it took a bit before games on the DS either used the touch screen to truely bring up gameplay value or stick with the buttons, barely using the touch screen if at all, casual games were also a huge part ofthe DSes beginings, but look at what we have now, we have truely hardcore games like contra 4, mario kart and megaman ZX.

i'm gona pull a cow here and say to you all " Just wait, DS had an exparimental cycle and its share of casual games, now we have truely hardcore titles on DS, same will be true for the wii, just wait."

flashattackfina

hence the newly underlined, i'm not becoming one, i'm just doing what there saying CONSTANTLY

just like the DS we should expect...

Only first party games to sell.

TONS and I mean TONS OF GARBAGE games. Not just loads...TRUCK LOADS of absolute trash. Way beyond anything the PS2 has ever experienced.

Very few cool third party titles. VERY FEW.

And the best games are all mario, zelda, metroid, and the same old franchises we've seen for years?

Wow not looking good for the Wii at all.

Oh and the innovative controls are abused by third parties and amount to nothing in the end? I mean that second screen is reduced to map screen status right now.

Since when are games such as mario kart and Contrea hardcore?

omgimba

Contra is hardcore. That game is about as hardcore as it gets.....it's so difficult.

just like the DS we should expect...

Only first party games to sell.

TONS and I mean TONS OF GARBAGE games. Not just loads...TRUCK LOADS of absolute trash. Way beyond anything the PS2 has ever experienced.

Very few cool third party titles. VERY FEW.

And the best games are all mario, zelda, metroid, and the same old franchises we've seen for years?

Wow not looking good for the Wii at all.

Oh and the innovative controls are abused by third parties and amount to nothing in the end? I mean that second screen is reduced to map screen status right now.

Bread_or_Decide

DS actually has less trash than the PS2.

And the DS has more than just first party titles, you just have to start importing them >_> Americans don't buy enough DS games for whatever reason.

just like the DS we should expect...

Only first party games to sell.

TONS and I mean TONS OF GARBAGE games. Not just loads...TRUCK LOADS of absolute trash. Way beyond anything the PS2 has ever experienced.

Very few cool third party titles. VERY FEW.

And the best games are all mario, zelda, metroid, and the same old franchises we've seen for years?

Wow not looking good for the Wii at all.

Oh and the innovative controls are abused by third parties and amount to nothing in the end? I mean that second screen is reduced to map screen status right now.

Bread_or_Decide

can you say thread winner? o_O

Since when are games such as mario kart and Contrea hardcore?

omgimba

Contra is as hardcore as you can get :|

Since when are games such as mario kart and Contrea hardcore?

omgimba

Oh......my.......God. :|

Are you saying that the Wii will be getting games at the DS rate? 'Cause that would be sad.pins_basic

The DS is hailed as one of the greatest handhelds of all-time and has one of the top '08 lineups of all systems.

[QUOTE="omgimba"]

Since when are games such as mario kart and Contrea hardcore?

Video_Game_King

I hope to God that there is a game by the name of Contrea for the DS, because Contra IS a hardcore series. The difficulty alone is hardcore.

Contra 4 just came out. It got an 8.0 at IGN

If you're a Contra fan there's nothing not to like with it.

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="omgimba"]

Since when are games such as mario kart and Contrea hardcore?

MikeE21286

I hope to God that there is a game by the name of Contrea for the DS, because Contra IS a hardcore series. The difficulty alone is hardcore.

Contra 4 just came out. It got an 8.0 at IGN

If you're a Contra fan there's nothing not to like with it.

hold up, an 8/10 is bad now?

just like the DS we should expect...

Only first party games to sell.

TONS and I mean TONS OF GARBAGE games. Not just loads...TRUCK LOADS of absolute trash. Way beyond anything the PS2 has ever experienced.

Very few cool third party titles. VERY FEW.

And the best games are all mario, zelda, metroid, and the same old franchises we've seen for years?

Wow not looking good for the Wii at all.

Oh and the innovative controls are abused by third parties and amount to nothing in the end? I mean that second screen is reduced to map screen status right now.

Bread_or_Decide

You obviously don't know anything about the DS. Since it's by far and wide the handheld that has been the most viable to third parties in gaming history. Even when you adjust the size ratio to the DS and comapre it towards the PSP the DS still has higher thid party sales.

Also to say that there are now good third party games is just ridiculous there are......you know what it's not even worth it for get it.

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="omgimba"]

Since when are games such as mario kart and Contrea hardcore?

Sonick54

I hope to God that there is a game by the name of Contrea for the DS, because Contra IS a hardcore series. The difficulty alone is hardcore.

Contra 4 just came out. It got an 8.0 at IGN

If you're a Contra fan there's nothing not to like with it.

hold up, an 8/10 is bad now?

:? What?

[QUOTE="Sonick54"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="omgimba"]

Since when are games such as mario kart and Contrea hardcore?

MikeE21286

I hope to God that there is a game by the name of Contrea for the DS, because Contra IS a hardcore series. The difficulty alone is hardcore.

Contra 4 just came out. It got an 8.0 at IGN

If you're a Contra fan there's nothing not to like with it.

hold up, an 8/10 is bad now?

:? What?

whoops, misread it, my bad

just like the DS we should expect...

Only first party games to sell.

TONS and I mean TONS OF GARBAGE games. Not just loads...TRUCK LOADS of absolute trash. Way beyond anything the PS2 has ever experienced.

Very few cool third party titles. VERY FEW.

And the best games are all mario, zelda, metroid, and the same old franchises we've seen for years?

Wow not looking good for the Wii at all.

Oh and the innovative controls are abused by third parties and amount to nothing in the end? I mean that second screen is reduced to map screen status right now.

Bread_or_Decide

very few huh?

Final Fantasy IV

Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings

Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles Ring of Fates

Dragon Quest IV

Dragon Quest V

Dragon Quest VI

Dragon Quest IX

Dragon Quest Monsters Joker

Ninja Gaiden Dragon Sword

Tales of Innocence

Phoenix Wright

Trauma Center

and many more

DS is the king of handheld RPGs and original games this gen

The Mega third party DS list! (Add add add!)

• Contra 4
• Trauma Center: Under the Knife
• Etrian Odyssey
• Contact
• Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings
• Final Fantasy III
• Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker
• Final Fantasy Tactics A2 (import)
• Tales of Innocence (import)
• Professor Layton and the Curious Village (import)
• Professor Layton and the Pandora's Box (import)
• Itadaki Street (import)
• Planet Puzzle League
• Picross DS
• Dragon Quest 4 (import)
• Drawn to Life
• Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
• Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Justice for All
• Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trials and Tribulations
• Jump! Superstars (import)
• Jump! Ultimate Stars (import)
• Luminous Arc
• Rune Factory: A Fantasy Harvest Moon
• Hotel Dusk: Room 215
• Sonic Rush
• Sonic Rush Adventures
• Geometry Wars: Galaxies
• Dementium: The Ward
• Electroplankton
• Custom Robo Arena
• Game Centre CX (import)
• It's a Wonderful World (import)

Since when are games such as mario kart and Contrea hardcore?

omgimba

Those games are like guitar hero 3, halo, super mario galaxy and GTA -- all break the boundry between hardcores and casuals.

Are you saying that the Wii will be getting games at the DS rate? 'Cause that would be sad.pins_basic

The Mega third party DS list! (Add add add!)

• Contra 4
• Trauma Center: Under the Knife
• Etrian Odyssey
• Contact
• Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings
• Final Fantasy III
• Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker
• Final Fantasy Tactics A2 (import)
• Tales of Innocence (import)
• Professor Layton and the Curious Village (import)
• Professor Layton and the Pandora's Box (import)
• Itadaki Street (import)
• Planet Puzzle League
• Picross DS
• Dragon Quest 4 (import)
• Drawn to Life
• Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
• Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Justice for All
• Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trials and Tribulations
• Jump! Superstars (import)
• Jump! Ultimate Stars (import)
• Luminous Arc
• Rune Factory: A Fantasy Harvest Moon
• Hotel Dusk: Room 215
• Sonic Rush
• Sonic Rush Adventures
• Geometry Wars: Galaxies
• Dementium: The Ward
• Electroplankton
• Custom Robo Arena
• Game Centre CX (import)
• It's a Wonderful World (import)

Eponique

Also other bolded titles are first party games too... Still, yes... My DS has about 50% of Nintendo and Third Party games. A nice balance, but.... Bread dude is... well arrogant and lacks the knowledge of anything in Nintendo. He just flames away.

just like the DS we should expect...

Only first party games to sell.

TONS and I mean TONS OF GARBAGE games. Not just loads...TRUCK LOADS of absolute trash. Way beyond anything the PS2 has ever experienced.

Very few cool third party titles. VERY FEW.

And the best games are all mario, zelda, metroid, and the same old franchises we've seen for years?

Wow not looking good for the Wii at all.

Oh and the innovative controls are abused by third parties and amount to nothing in the end? I mean that second screen is reduced to map screen status right now.

Bread_or_Decide

Since when are games such as mario kart and Contrea hardcore?

omgimba

Since when are they not hardcore?

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

just like the DS we should expect...

Only first party games to sell.

TONS and I mean TONS OF GARBAGE games. Not just loads...TRUCK LOADS of absolute trash. Way beyond anything the PS2 has ever experienced.

Very few cool third party titles. VERY FEW.

And the best games are all mario, zelda, metroid, and the same old franchises we've seen for years?

Wow not looking good for the Wii at all.

Oh and the innovative controls are abused by third parties and amount to nothing in the end? I mean that second screen is reduced to map screen status right now.

Sonick54

can you say thread winner? o_O

No.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

Oh and the innovative controls are abused by third parties and amount to nothing in the end? I mean that second screen is reduced to map screen status right now.

Shinobishyguy

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

Oh and the innovative controls are abused by third parties and amount to nothing in the end? I mean that second screen is reduced to map screen status right now.

nintendofreak_2

Then he's never played Elite Beat Agents, Age of Empires, Trauma Center, Final Fantasy III....

shovelware is all part of a inovative consoles beginings, developers needed to grasp the limits of what the DS and its touch screen control was capable of, it took a bit before games on the DS either used the touch screen to truely bring up gameplay value or stick with the buttons, barely using the touch screen if at all, casual games were also a huge part ofthe DSes beginings, but look at what we have now, we have truely hardcore games like contra 4, mario kart and megaman ZX.

i'm gona pull a cow here and say to you all " Just wait, DS had an exparimental cycle and its share of casual games, now we have truely hardcore titles on DS, same will be true for the wii, just wait."

darkspineslayer

[QUOTE="omgimba"]

Since when are games such as mario kart and Contrea hardcore?

Video_Game_King

I hope to God that there is a game by the name of Contrea for the DS, because Contra IS a hardcore series. The difficulty alone is hardcore.

ROFL! :lol:

Contrea. :roll:

Then he's never played Elite Beat Agents, Age of Empires, Trauma Center, Final Fantasy III....

mjarantilla

[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]

shovelware is all part of a inovative consoles beginings, developers needed to grasp the limits of what the DS and its touch screen control was capable of, it took a bit before games on the DS either used the touch screen to truely bring up gameplay value or stick with the buttons, barely using the touch screen if at all, casual games were also a huge part ofthe DSes beginings, but look at what we have now, we have truely hardcore games like contra 4, mario kart and megaman ZX.

i'm gona pull a cow here and say to you all " Just wait, DS had an exparimental cycle and its share of casual games, now we have truely hardcore titles on DS, same will be true for the wii, just wait."

AIH_PSP

If you want people to laugh at you, go right ahead.

LMAO. Mario Kart is hardcore?!?!?!?! This is going in my sig!AIH_PSP

Since when are games such as mario kart and Contrea hardcore?

omgimba

someone eat him, NAO!

Funniest Quote Ever:
"casual games were also a huge part ofthe DSes beginings, but look at what we have now, we have truely hardcore games like contra 4, mario kart and megaman ZX."
AIH_PSP

What's so funny about your sig.? That's true. :|

ROFL! :lol:

Contrea. :roll:

goblaa

It's as I've stated before, most gamers now a days started gaming last generation.

Since when are games such as mario kart and Contrea hardcore?

omgimba

Wait. What did you just say?

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="omgimba"]

Since when are games such as mario kart and Contrea hardcore?

MikeE21286

I hope to God that there is a game by the name of Contrea for the DS, because Contra IS a hardcore series. The difficulty alone is hardcore.

Contra 4 just came out. It got an 8.0 at IGN

If you're a Contra fan there's nothing not to like with it.

I said it was hardcore, I didn't insult the quality. Its just not a series known for an easy learning curve/low difficulty level. Its known for fast paced action and guns launching slow spheres of death everywhere, powered up by floating letters :P.

*Reminds Wii is year younger than 360, more popular=gets more shovelware.

Give it some time. Brawl isn't even out yet. I mean, what did the DS have its first year besides Mario Kart and MP:H? Not much.