If the old republic does not meet expectations...end of bioware.

Somehow whats happening here is similar to what happened to Westwood.

If Star Wars:The Old Republic tanks you can be sure this will be imminent.

Bioware will be fine. They're such a large developer and they have other franchises they can rely on. EA will be peeved if it flops, but I'm pretty sure it won't.

Bioware will be fine. They're such a large developer and they have other franchises they can rely on. EA will be peeved if it flops, but I'm pretty sure it won't.

Vari3ty

It won't meet the expectation that EA has of it taking over WoW.

[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

Bioware will be fine. They're such a large developer and they have other franchises they can rely on. EA will be peeved if it flops, but I'm pretty sure it won't.

killzonexbox

Also there is a lot behind this project so for it to outright fail is pretty much guaranteed not to happen. Even if it ends up really lame there is a strong star wars and D20 fanbase that will still probably play it regularly.

Even assuming it does fail, it's not like this is the only project Bioware is investing in. Mass Effect 3 and other titles are coming up and Dragon Age 2 just sold more than a million copies so there really aren't any signs that TOR is the make or break game here.

At worst, the game will sell horribly, in which case I could see EA trimming the fat and fusing studios so Bioware's quality remains consistant, but I can't imagine they would just go "nope sorry, that's it, game didn't live up to everyones expectations, go find other jobs."

even if it were to bomb and lose tons of money, people still buy bioware single player games. ea wouldnt axe a viable developer of one area because they couldnt expand to another. at worst it would effect budget.

of course, its unlikely it will bomb. the combination of ea's marketing push with the star wars and bioware names will get a lot of people to try it out. i doubt bioware will make a niche mmo to turn away the majority.

They only need 500k subs to be profitable. http://www.gamesradar.com/pc/star-wars-the-old-republic/news/ea-the-old-republic-only-needs-500000-subscribers-to-turn-a-profit/a-20110203102848828093/g-20081021163120143024i5750at4Ghz

This pretty much.. and it's definitely going to get more than that.

Somehow whats happening here is similar to what happened to Westwood.

If Star Wars:The Old Republic tanks you can be sure this will be imminent.

killzonexbox

Yes, they make not a spectacual AAA game this generation and suddenly, their are on a lifeline.

Whatever, Im still very salty they didn't make KOTOR 3. I dont think Bioware will go down if tor tanks tho,

If it flops, off to another dragon age they go. :P

Progressively gets worse every time.

If it flops, off to another dragon age they go. :P

Progressively gets worse every time.

PSdual_wielder

I would much rather have a Mass Effect MMO :P

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]They only need 500k subs to be profitable. http://www.gamesradar.com/pc/star-wars-the-old-republic/news/ea-the-old-republic-only-needs-500000-subscribers-to-turn-a-profit/a-20110203102848828093/g-20081021163120143024Espada12

This pretty much.. and it's definitely going to get more than that.

I would much rather have a Mass Effect MMO :P

JLF1

Bioware will be fine. They're such a large developer and they have other franchises they can rely on. EA will be peeved if it flops, but I'm pretty sure it won't.

Vari3ty

What other franchises? Mass Effect is reaching the end. Dragon Age's future doesn't look that bright after the second. SW tor is a huge huge risk and no, it will not be only EA that will be peeved. Bioware and EA are one after all, EA is not just a publisher, EA owns Bioware as well as everything Bioware makes.

The new gameplay videos from pax east prove it will not fail. Check it out on youtube, people playing it on the show floor, and it looks excellent.

1. I doubt it will fail.

2. Bioware won't "end" even if it does.

Bioware Austin and Mythic may take some serious damage, but not the canadian one. Bioware has more than one studio, no need to remove all of them just because one messes up.

bioware will survive. this game does look like garbage though

I don't think this game is going to tank. Sure, there are some disappointing features, or lack of content, but for the most part I see this game being a success. I also see it as a stepping stone into a Mass Effect MMO. Mass Effect has the lore to pull it off, and I think Bioware can capitalize on that after Mass Effect 3.

Firstly, i don't think the game will be such a major disaster.

Secondly, they are backed by EA and have a very good reputation (regardless of the tripe that was dragon age series) with hardcore gamers. EA is like swimming in a heck lot of money, so no worries about (lol) an 'end of bioware'.

Or they'll just be dead to the PC community.......which I already think they are.

its going to be a huge let down.. will it be a abd game only time will tell but ALOT of folks are going to leave with sad faces tears and popped baloons from that circus.

will ti kill bioware hardly.. thats like saying a sherman can slay a panther with its reference short barrel...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrQfw9sA5Ys

i assure you that its never going to happen

Ea already killed bioware :PJohn_Read

[QUOTE="John_Read"]Ea already killed bioware :Pkillzonexbox

They haven't 'killed' Bioware but Bioware at the same time isn't the same company it was during its prime.

The Old Republic is awesome. I can't stop playing it.Zero5000X

Got into the beta? :P

Honestly, virtually nothing is actually even known about this game. Very much has been kept secret. Given that its one of the most expensive games in the hisotry of the industry (if not the most) with a budget thats been rumured to be as high as 300 mil, its not very clear where that budget is going. EA clearly has a lot of experience with MMO's, so I doubt its simply going to waste.

I dont think it will be a better game then Guild Wars 2, but I can see it being far more profitable.

Honestly, virtually nothing is actually even known about this game. Very much has been kept secret. Given that its one of the most expensive games in the hisotry of the industry (if not the most) with a budget thats been rumured to be as high as 300 mil, its not very clear where that budget is going. EA clearly has a lot of experience with MMO's, so I doubt its simply going to waste.

I dont think it will be a better game then Guild Wars 2, but I can see it being far more profitable.

cobrax55

I think TOR will be profitable but no where near what EA wants. You don't spend the kind of money they are spending to be middle of the pack in terms of profitability and 5th or 6th in terms of paid subscribers. They're spending top two money and it's unilikey to happen.

[QUOTE="cobrax55"]

Honestly, virtually nothing is actually even known about this game. Very much has been kept secret. Given that its one of the most expensive games in the hisotry of the industry (if not the most) with a budget thats been rumured to be as high as 300 mil, its not very clear where that budget is going. EA clearly has a lot of experience with MMO's, so I doubt its simply going to waste.

I dont think it will be a better game then Guild Wars 2, but I can see it being far more profitable.

KC_Hokie

I think TOR will be profitable but no where near what EA wants. You don't spend the kind of money they are spending to be middle of the pack in terms of profitability and 5th or 6th in terms of paid subscribers. They're spending top two money and it's unilikey to happen.

I meant EA Mythic, in the sense that they own a MMO dedicaded studio, and Warhammer online was profitable for them.

Bioware seems to be doing okay to me... i think they'll be fine either way.

[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]The Old Republic is awesome. I can't stop playing it.Espada12

Got into the beta? :P