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The Media talks about it because it's so different from the competition and it's targeted towards casual gamers. But a lot of gamers prefer a High end system with HD.WildTurkey00Obviously more people prefer the Wii as its outselling the 360 and PS3 consistanlty
People are buying the Wii because....IT IS CHEAP! It sure isn't for the games that are out for it.MikeE21286
Exactly all casuals see is.......250 >>> 600
Sheep can't get it thorugh their head that for hardcore gamers success is not measure by sales.MikeE21286really? So how are System Wars won?
[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]People are buying the Wii because....IT IS CHEAP! It sure isn't for the games that are out for it.HoffgodAh, the old impulse buy argument. Tell me, if you need to wake up early on Sunday and wait in line for it, is it really an impusle buy?
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I never said it was an impulse buy. I said it was CHEAP. They see the difference in price tags and pick the cheaper one.Â
Sheep can't get it thorugh their head that for hardcore gamers success is not measure by sales.MikeE21286
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If you call yourself a hardcore gamer then your not a hardcore gamer... hardcore gamers are so hardcore that they don't take time to praise themselves and talk themselves up as hardcore gamers.
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Oh, and yes I play a lot of games, and Like the Wii. Â
Ah, the old impulse buy argument. Tell me, if you need to wake up early on Sunday and wait in line for it, is it really an impusle buy?[QUOTE="Hoffgod"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]People are buying the Wii because....IT IS CHEAP! It sure isn't for the games that are out for it.MikeE21286
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I never said it was an impulse buy. I said it was CHEAP. They see the difference in price tags and pick the cheaper one.
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I suppose Nintendo is the only one who knows about this cheapness factor... You would think Microsoft or Sony would want to capitalize on it too. Â
People are buying the Wii because....IT IS CHEAP! It sure isn't for the games that are out for it.MikeE21286
Just like they bought the gamecube because it was cheap? I can see maybe buying it because it's easy to play, but the price theory holds no water, it has been seen several times in the past that the more expensive system sells more.
[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]People are buying the Wii because....IT IS CHEAP! It sure isn't for the games that are out for it.Franklinstein
Just like they bought the gamecube because it was cheap? I can see maybe buying it because it's easy to play, but the price theory holds no water, it has been seen several times in the past that the more expensive system sells more.
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That is why the Gamecube was as big a flop as it was......the fact that it had the price advantage and could not take control over it. If you wanna try and argue that price is not a determing factor or directly correlated to sales then my friend you can go ahead and try .
People are buying the Wii because....IT IS CHEAP! It sure isn't for the games that are out for it.MikeE21286
Indeed. It being only $250 with a free game is a major reason why it's selling so well. Another reason being the Wiimote itself. Sony has made an incredibly stupid blunder by alienating it's PS fans with a $600 price tag.Â
Because this forum is full of hardcore gamers not just a bunch of noob casuals.-Sir-Poof-
Would the 360 be only for casuals if it was mopping the floor with the competition?
[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]Sheep can't get it thorugh their head that for hardcore gamers success is not measure by sales.shungokustasureally? So how are System Wars won?
I guess you could try to average the sales between games that are hyped on system wars with the amount of systems sold and get a rough estimate how many of those are hardcore gamers? I don't really know another way... and that way is too much work anyway.Â
[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]Sheep can't get it thorugh their head that for hardcore gamers success is not measure by sales.shungokustasureally? So how are System Wars won?
"System Wars" are not won or lost by gamers.....but companies. Gamers win with games..... not salesÂ
People are buying the Wii because....IT IS CHEAP! It sure isn't for the games that are out for it.MikeE21286Actually it is, casuals/nongamers just like different games than hardcore
[QUOTE="-Sir-Poof-"]Because this forum is full of hardcore gamers not just a bunch of noob casuals.-The-G-Man-
Would the 360 be only for casuals if it was mopping the floor with the competition?
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No because we have a variety of games to pick from? I DON'T KNOW!!! Uh... sureÂ
Ah, the old impulse buy argument. Tell me, if you need to wake up early on Sunday and wait in line for it, is it really an impusle buy?[QUOTE="Hoffgod"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]People are buying the Wii because....IT IS CHEAP! It sure isn't for the games that are out for it.MikeE21286
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I never said it was an impulse buy. I said it was CHEAP. They see the difference in price tags and pick the cheaper one.Â
No otherwise they would own other cheap consoles, no they see the new gameplay and motion sensing[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]Ah, the old impulse buy argument. Tell me, if you need to wake up early on Sunday and wait in line for it, is it really an impusle buy?[QUOTE="Hoffgod"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]People are buying the Wii because....IT IS CHEAP! It sure isn't for the games that are out for it.AvinashTyagi
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I never said it was an impulse buy. I said it was CHEAP. They see the difference in price tags and pick the cheaper one.
No otherwise they would own other cheap consoles, no they see the new gameplay and motion sensingÂ
What other new and cheap consoles do you see out there? No other cheap consoles are going to have a reasonable amount of new games released for them.Â
[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]Ah, the old impulse buy argument. Tell me, if you need to wake up early on Sunday and wait in line for it, is it really an impusle buy?[QUOTE="Hoffgod"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]People are buying the Wii because....IT IS CHEAP! It sure isn't for the games that are out for it.MikeE21286
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I never said it was an impulse buy. I said it was CHEAP. They see the difference in price tags and pick the cheaper one.
No otherwise they would own other cheap consoles, no they see the new gameplay and motion sensingÂ
What other new and cheap consoles do you see out there? No other cheap consoles are going to have a reasonable amount of new games released for them.Â
PS2, you=owned, its cheap with a ton of gamesreally? So how are System Wars won?[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]Sheep can't get it thorugh their head that for hardcore gamers success is not measure by sales.MikeE21286
"System Wars" are not won or lost by gamers.....but companies. Gamers win with games..... not sales
So a hardcore gamer can say Xbox or Gamecube won last gen?[QUOTE="-Sir-Poof-"]Because this forum is full of hardcore gamers not just a bunch of noob casuals.-The-G-Man-
Would the 360 be only for casuals if it was mopping the floor with the competition?
no but if it was full of kiddy games gamecube grfx and a 250 dollar price tag it would
[QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]Ah, the old impulse buy argument. Tell me, if you need to wake up early on Sunday and wait in line for it, is it really an impusle buy?[QUOTE="Hoffgod"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]People are buying the Wii because....IT IS CHEAP! It sure isn't for the games that are out for it.AvinashTyagi
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I never said it was an impulse buy. I said it was CHEAP. They see the difference in price tags and pick the cheaper one.
No otherwise they would own other cheap consoles, no they see the new gameplay and motion sensingÂ
What other new and cheap consoles do you see out there? No other cheap consoles are going to have a reasonable amount of new games released for them.
PS2, you=owned, its cheap with a ton of gamesRead my post please......... "reasonable amount of new games released for them." What is gonna have more games released for it .....Wii or PS2......Can you please atleast try and read first.
[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]really? So how are System Wars won?[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]Sheep can't get it thorugh their head that for hardcore gamers success is not measure by sales.shungokustasu
"System Wars" are not won or lost by gamers.....but companies. Gamers win with games..... not sales
So a hardcore gamer can say Xbox or Gamecube won last gen?Â
Why not? If they had the most fun with that system versus the other systems out then why not? It won for them didn't it.
[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]Ah, the old impulse buy argument. Tell me, if you need to wake up early on Sunday and wait in line for it, is it really an impusle buy?[QUOTE="Hoffgod"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]People are buying the Wii because....IT IS CHEAP! It sure isn't for the games that are out for it.MikeE21286
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I never said it was an impulse buy. I said it was CHEAP. They see the difference in price tags and pick the cheaper one.
No otherwise they would own other cheap consoles, no they see the new gameplay and motion sensingÂ
What other new and cheap consoles do you see out there? No other cheap consoles are going to have a reasonable amount of new games released for them.
PS2, you=owned, its cheap with a ton of gamesRead my post please......... "reasonable amount of new games released for them." What is gonna have more games released for it .....Wii or PS2......Can you please atleast try and read first.
I thought you were arguing that they were buying Wii for the price not the games? See the argument that its the price only is bogus, games and gameplay are more important[QUOTE="ShakeNBake1491"]You people act like having the cheapest console is a cheat code or something.Sonick54I say the GC won last gen because of it's price !!!!! Lol, I say it's winning now, because I got Timesplitters 2 and Fire Emblem for $20 altogether :D Gamecube FTW!
[QUOTE="Sonick54"][QUOTE="ShakeNBake1491"]You people act like having the cheapest console is a cheat code or something.ShakeNBake1491I say the GC won last gen because of it's price !!!!! Lol, I say it's winning now, because I got Timesplitters 2 and Fire Emblem for $20 altogether :D Gamecube FTW! Woot! Nice :)
[QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]Ah, the old impulse buy argument. Tell me, if you need to wake up early on Sunday and wait in line for it, is it really an impusle buy?[QUOTE="Hoffgod"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]People are buying the Wii because....IT IS CHEAP! It sure isn't for the games that are out for it.AvinashTyagi
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I never said it was an impulse buy. I said it was CHEAP. They see the difference in price tags and pick the cheaper one.
No otherwise they would own other cheap consoles, no they see the new gameplay and motion sensingÂ
What other new and cheap consoles do you see out there? No other cheap consoles are going to have a reasonable amount of new games released for them.
PS2, you=owned, its cheap with a ton of gamesRead my post please......... "reasonable amount of new games released for them." What is gonna have more games released for it .....Wii or PS2......Can you please atleast try and read first.
I thought you were arguing that they were buying Wii for the price not the games? See the argument that its the price only is bogus, games and gameplay are more importantÂ
Yeah, price as opposed to the new consoles. Â
[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]Ah, the old impulse buy argument. Tell me, if you need to wake up early on Sunday and wait in line for it, is it really an impusle buy?[QUOTE="Hoffgod"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]People are buying the Wii because....IT IS CHEAP! It sure isn't for the games that are out for it.MikeE21286
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I never said it was an impulse buy. I said it was CHEAP. They see the difference in price tags and pick the cheaper one.
No otherwise they would own other cheap consoles, no they see the new gameplay and motion sensingÂ
What other new and cheap consoles do you see out there? No other cheap consoles are going to have a reasonable amount of new games released for them.
PS2, you=owned, its cheap with a ton of gamesRead my post please......... "reasonable amount of new games released for them." What is gonna have more games released for it .....Wii or PS2......Can you please atleast try and read first.
I thought you were arguing that they were buying Wii for the price not the games? See the argument that its the price only is bogus, games and gameplay are more importantÂ
Yeah, price as opposed to the new consoles. Â
Nope, because that's not what casuals/nongamers would care about, if last gen didn't matter then PS2 wouldn't still be beating the 360 and PS3 in sales, only Wii is selling more, and that's because of the controls, and games that use the controls, like Wii sports, it appeals to the casuals/nongamers as well as the hardcore who want the motion control experienceWait, wii is selling only because of the price and not it's games? :o Well then, i guess we can all agree that Gamecube won last gen seeing as how it was the cheapest console. :) Seriously, do not think of the other option? That it is selling because of games?!Sonick54
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Well that was then but we are in the now and when you look at a $600 PS3 and then the $250 Wii most people are gonna by the Wii because it is a helluva lot cheaper, me personally I have a wii and an xbox 360 i think i would have been better off just buying 5 more games for it and a pair of jordans
I don't really see the Wii as a true competitor against PS3 and 360. It's a totally different market segment. Many casual gamers that just won't spend +$500 on a console will spend a few hundred for a simpler system for the family. Many hardcore gamers will buy both the Wii and another console. So they're not really competing against each other.
The Wii will do great because it emphasizes fun, playing together, and it's very accessible to people who know nothing about video games. I have friends who really struggle with FPS games like Rainbow Six on my 360 as they just can't get a hang of the whole complexity of controlling movement and aiming simultaneously with their thumbs. For me, it's easy because I'm used to it. But for them, a Wii is just so easy and accessible as they can just aim instinctively. Still, these friends would never buy a 360 or PS3 in the first place since most games are just too complicated for them.
 I suppose if the 360 or PS3 came out with a similar control device (I know SixAxis has motion sensing, but it's not the same) as the Wii with a similar range of games, they could then perhaps be considered competition. But atm they just aren't competing for the same consumers. I'll probably pick up a Wii later this year for my family and perhaps for times when friends are over, but I'll keep playing my 360 the majority of the time.
You people act like having the cheapest console is a cheat code or something.ShakeNBake1491
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People are buying the Wii because....IT IS CHEAP! It sure isn't for the games that are out for it.MikeE21286People are buying the wii because, there are some people like me that are tired of the same controller over and over again. its time to play games different. and second is the price. but the first is the new way of playing games. The wii-mote.
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