if the wiimote is so revolutionary...

think of it as an 'accessory'. :P

And I assume it's still taking some devs. a while to wrap their heads around the motion-sensing concept.

SSBB is recommended highly with the old Gamecube controller, which proves the Wii-mote is NOT the answer for all future games.PhoebusFlows

yeah, that and don't forget the new mario kart too that they say controls horrendously with the wiimote...

normally we'ld blame the developers for being lazy and not doing too good a job, but these games SSBB and the wii's mario kart are first party titles.....

SSBB is recommended highly with the old Gamecube controller, which proves the Wii-mote is NOT the answer for all future games.PhoebusFlows

yeah, that and don't forget the new mario kart too that they say controls horrendously with the wiimote...

normally we'ld blame the developers for being lazy and not doing too good a job, but these games SSBB and the wii's mario kart are first party titles.....

SSBB is recommended highly with the old Gamecube controller, which proves the Wii-mote is NOT the answer for all future games.PhoebusFlows

And your basing this on one game?

SSBB is recommended highly with the old Gamecube controller, which proves the Wii-mote is NOT the answer for all future games.PhoebusFlows

and the PS controller works well for fighters. doesn't make it true or false that the 360's controller is superior to it.

It's safe to say that the Wii-mote is not ideal for fast and furious fighting games, that's for sure.

The same way I wouldnt want to see Wii-mote used on Soul Calibur 4 or Street Fighter 4. But I dont have to worry about that, those games arent coming to Wii anyways. lol

[QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]SSBB is recommended highly with the old Gamecube controller, which proves the Wii-mote is NOT the answer for all future games.Hewkii

and the PS controller works well for fighters. doesn't make it true or false that the 360's controller is superior to it.

[QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]SSBB is recommended highly with the old Gamecube controller, which proves the Wii-mote is NOT the answer for all future games.Jakendo

And your basing this on one game?

uhm...y not? i'm just sayin', if the wiimote is so revolutionary, it should be able to control the game at least averagely, especially considering all the research nintendo must have poured into it....u shouldn't need to have to buy another controller(if u own neither the classic or the gamecube controller) to get the average experience..

It's saf eto say that the Wii-mote is not ideal for fast and furious fighting games, that's for sure.

The same way I wouldnt want to see Wii-mote used on Soul Calibur 4 or Street Fighter 4. But I dont have to worry about that, those games arent coming to Wii anyways. lol

PhoebusFlows

Yea the Wiimote isn't really suited to the fighting genre at all but at least there are other control options to make up for it.

Fighting and car racing are the two genres that I haven't seen done well on the Wii yet (in terms of wiimote useage).

It's safe to say that the Wii-mote is not ideal for fast and furious fighting games, that's for sure.

The same way I wouldnt want to see Wii-mote used on Soul Calibur 4 or Street Fighter 4. But I dont have to worry about that, those games arent coming to Wii anyways. lol

PhoebusFlows

And? Its not good for fighting games... and that what makes it not the answer for future games?

[QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]SSBB is recommended highly with the old Gamecube controller, which proves the Wii-mote is NOT the answer for all future games.Jakendo

And your basing this on one game?

MK Wii is said to be also better using the GC controller... :D

[QUOTE="Hewkii"]

[QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]SSBB is recommended highly with the old Gamecube controller, which proves the Wii-mote is NOT the answer for all future games.tok1879

and the PS controller works well for fighters. doesn't make it true or false that the 360's controller is superior to it.

[QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]SSBB is recommended highly with the old Gamecube controller, which proves the Wii-mote is NOT the answer for all future games.Jakendo

And your basing this on one game?

uhm...y not? i'm just sayin', if the wiimote is so revolutionary, it should be able to control the game at least averagely, especially considering all the research nintendo must have poured into it....u shouldn't need to have to buy another controller(if u own neither the classic or the gamecube controller) to get the average experience..

[QUOTE="Jakendo"]

[QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]SSBB is recommended highly with the old Gamecube controller, which proves the Wii-mote is NOT the answer for all future games.nitekids2004

And your basing this on one game?

MK Wii is said to be also better using the GC controller... :D

You do know that different people play better with different controls right? One person might be better with the wiimote while someone else could be better with the GC controller.

[QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]

It's safe to say that the Wii-mote is not ideal for fast and furious fighting games, that's for sure.

The same way I wouldnt want to see Wii-mote used on Soul Calibur 4 or Street Fighter 4. But I dont have to worry about that, those games arent coming to Wii anyways. lol

Jakendo

And? Its not good for fighting games... and that what makes it not the answer for future games?

I said it's not ideal for all genres. There will be some genres the Wii-mote doesnt handle well.

What, so it got a high score on SMG and Metroid, so that means it's the answer to all FPS and platforming games? So that means no need to make another Halo, Call of Duty or Banjo, just only make Nintendo Wii-mote games since it's so revolutionary based on those scores? I see sheep basing Wii's victory on just ONE game on ONE website, SSBB's score here at Gamespot. I think they're the ones that need a peptalk.

It's safe to say that the Wii-mote is not ideal for fast and furious fighting games, that's for sure.

The same way I wouldnt want to see Wii-mote used on Soul Calibur 4 or Street Fighter 4. But I dont have to worry about that, those games arent coming to Wii anyways. lol

PhoebusFlows

DONT WANT EM sf4 WILL SUCK HARD.

[QUOTE="Hewkii"]

[QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]SSBB is recommended highly with the old Gamecube controller, which proves the Wii-mote is NOT the answer for all future games.tok1879

and the PS controller works well for fighters. doesn't make it true or false that the 360's controller is superior to it.

[QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]SSBB is recommended highly with the old Gamecube controller, which proves the Wii-mote is NOT the answer for all future games.Jakendo

And your basing this on one game?

uhm...y not? i'm just sayin', if the wiimote is so revolutionary, it should be able to control the game at least averagely, especially considering all the research nintendo must have poured into it....u shouldn't need to have to buy another controller(if u own neither the classic or the gamecube controller) to get the average experience..

You must not have brawl fanboy, cause I can easily use the wiimote nunchuck combo then go to sideways controller.

[QUOTE="tok1879"][QUOTE="Hewkii"]

[QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]SSBB is recommended highly with the old Gamecube controller, which proves the Wii-mote is NOT the answer for all future games.Jakendo

and the PS controller works well for fighters. doesn't make it true or false that the 360's controller is superior to it.

[QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]SSBB is recommended highly with the old Gamecube controller, which proves the Wii-mote is NOT the answer for all future games.Jakendo

And your basing this on one game?

uhm...y not? i'm just sayin', if the wiimote is so revolutionary, it should be able to control the game at least averagely, especially considering all the research nintendo must have poured into it....u shouldn't need to have to buy another controller(if u own neither the classic or the gamecube controller) to get the average experience..

it's not?? that's not what i heard...

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"][QUOTE="Jakendo"]

[QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]SSBB is recommended highly with the old Gamecube controller, which proves the Wii-mote is NOT the answer for all future games.Jakendo

And your basing this on one game?

MK Wii is said to be also better using the GC controller... :D

You do know that different people play better with different controls right? One person might be better with the wiimote while someone else could be better with the GC controller.

yeah? different ppl play with different controls?? well, i bet u more ppl will rather play with the GC controller...and no it's not just because they're more used to it...

[QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]SSBB is recommended highly with the old Gamecube controller, which proves the Wii-mote is NOT the answer for all future games.tok1879

yeah, that and don't forget the new mario kart too that they say controls horrendously with the wiimote...

normally we'ld blame the developers for being lazy and not doing too good a job, but these games SSBB and the wii's mario kart are first party titles.....

Is this true? I am not buying anythiong for my Wii lol I will play Bowling and Wii fit! I will continue my real gaming on the PS3.

[QUOTE="tok1879"]

[QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]SSBB is recommended highly with the old Gamecube controller, which proves the Wii-mote is NOT the answer for all future games.Khansoul

yeah, that and don't forget the new mario kart too that they say controls horrendously with the wiimote...

normally we'ld blame the developers for being lazy and not doing too good a job, but these games SSBB and the wii's mario kart are first party titles.....

Is this true? I am not buying anythiong for my Wii lol I will play Bowling and Wii fit! I will continue my real gaming on the PS3.

Call me in 7 hours. :D

wow :shock: you are the first person to say this! you should call a news paper or something!Raoul_Duke_HST

wow :shock: you've mastered the art of sarcasm...u should get a BS in "sarcasiology"!!!!

....why does the wii still NEED the classic controller and gamecube controller?? i mean ps3 and the 360 have a standard controller that seems to work, i believe, for most to all the games on them...tok1879

[QUOTE="Raoul_Duke_HST"]wow :shock: you are the first person to say this! you should call a news paper or something!tok1879

wow :shock: you've mastered the art of sarcasm...u should get a BS in "sarcasiology"!!!!

its good for some titles...but awkwards for other....such as BRAWL....very weird feelingi_Pwn_TheVuhJay

well you don't even use motion controls for that.. On default motion smashs are off..

wow....same topic over and over.

not every game needs to use motion control. but you don't NEED the classic controller for SSBB or mario kart , it's just an extra option....

so your question is just a justification for YOU to miss out.

wow....same topic over and over.

not every game needs to use motion control. but you don't NEED the classic controller for SSBB or mario kart , it's just an extra option....

so your question is just a justification for YOU to miss out.

Always-Honest

i feel that motion controls are the only thing that can save the upcoming mario kart from feeling like a complete gamecube rehash that happens to include online

[QUOTE="Always-Honest"]

wow....same topic over and over.

not every game needs to use motion control. but you don't NEED the classic controller for SSBB or mario kart , it's just an extra option....

so your question is just a justification for YOU to miss out.

i_Pwn_TheVuhJay

i feel that motion controls are the only thing that can save the upcoming mario kart from feeling like a complete gamecube rehash that happens to include online

The online alone would make it worth the purchase quite honestly..

[QUOTE="Always-Honest"]

wow....same topic over and over.

not every game needs to use motion control. but you don't NEED the classic controller for SSBB or mario kart , it's just an extra option....

so your question is just a justification for YOU to miss out.

i_Pwn_TheVuhJay

i feel that motion controls are the only thing that can save the upcoming mario kart from feeling like a complete gamecube rehash that happens to include online

online is the most important thing this time. it will feel a littlle re-hashy sometimes i'm afraid, but i just Have to ply this game.

online mariokart is tooo much fun

[QUOTE="i_Pwn_TheVuhJay"][QUOTE="Always-Honest"]

wow....same topic over and over.

not every game needs to use motion control. but you don't NEED the classic controller for SSBB or mario kart , it's just an extra option....

so your question is just a justification for YOU to miss out.

Always-Honest

i feel that motion controls are the only thing that can save the upcoming mario kart from feeling like a complete gamecube rehash that happens to include online

online is the most important thing this time. it will feel a littlle re-hashy sometimes i'm afraid, but i just Have to ply this game.

online mariokart is tooo much fun

and i totally agree with you on that point....it just dissapoints me because this game could of really benefited from some stellar graphics......but im sure it will be fun...but i also dont think that nintendo should make me accept that its graphics will be meh....they made brawl and smg look great now why not mario kart

[QUOTE="Always-Honest"][QUOTE="i_Pwn_TheVuhJay"][QUOTE="Always-Honest"]

wow....same topic over and over.

not every game needs to use motion control. but you don't NEED the classic controller for SSBB or mario kart , it's just an extra option....

so your question is just a justification for YOU to miss out.

i_Pwn_TheVuhJay

i feel that motion controls are the only thing that can save the upcoming mario kart from feeling like a complete gamecube rehash that happens to include online

online is the most important thing this time. it will feel a littlle re-hashy sometimes i'm afraid, but i just Have to ply this game.

online mariokart is tooo much fun

and i totally agree with you on that point....it just dissapoints me because this game could of really benefited from some stellar graphics......but im sure it will be fun...but i also dont think that nintendo should make me accept that its graphics will be meh....they made brawl and smg look great now why not mario kart

IMO the biggest flaw of Nintendo this gen is not the graphical capabilities its the Online, or lack of.. Brawl for instance after playing iit for some time have found it to be an amazingly indepth game thats awesome.. But it could have been legendary if it gave a real online support...

I could only imagine how amazing it would be with a online like Halo 3 for instance.. Where a person could go in, random max make, play with buddies, choose the game mode, actually communicate, etc etc..

[QUOTE="Always-Honest"][QUOTE="i_Pwn_TheVuhJay"][QUOTE="Always-Honest"]

wow....same topic over and over.

not every game needs to use motion control. but you don't NEED the classic controller for SSBB or mario kart , it's just an extra option....

so your question is just a justification for YOU to miss out.

i_Pwn_TheVuhJay

i feel that motion controls are the only thing that can save the upcoming mario kart from feeling like a complete gamecube rehash that happens to include online

online is the most important thing this time. it will feel a littlle re-hashy sometimes i'm afraid, but i just Have to ply this game.

online mariokart is tooo much fun

and i totally agree with you on that point....it just dissapoints me because this game could of really benefited from some stellar graphics......but im sure it will be fun...but i also dont think that nintendo should make me accept that its graphics will be meh....they made brawl and smg look great now why not mario kart

yeah..i'd like that too.

I could only imagine how amazing it would be with a online like Halo 3 for instance.. Where a person could go in, random max make, play with buddies, choose the game mode, actually communicate, etc etc..

sSubZerOo

yeah, i agree

SSBB is recommended highly with the old Gamecube controller, which proves the Wii-mote is NOT the answer for all future games.PhoebusFlows

and i totally agree with you on that point....it just dissapoints me because this game could of really benefited from some stellar graphics......but im sure it will be fun...but i also dont think that nintendo should make me accept that its graphics will be meh....they made brawl and smg look great now why not mario kart

IMO the biggest flaw of Nintendo this gen is not the graphical capabilities its the Online, or lack of.. Brawl for instance after playing iit for some time have found it to be an amazingly indepth game thats awesome.. But it could have been legendary if it gave a real online support...

I could only imagine how amazing it would be with a online like Halo 3 for instance.. Where a person could go in, random max make, play with buddies, choose the game mode, actually communicate, etc etc..

i think that those are the two major flaws that keep me from giving a damn about my wii that seems so hard for others to find/buy.....online is a big deal for me and wii's approach is poor at the very best....and i cant help it but for the most part wii's graphics make me feel bad for putting my hdtv thru so much anguish(i have a graphic OCD....cant help it)

[QUOTE="Raoul_Duke_HST"]wow :shock: you are the first person to say this! you should call a news paper or something!tok1879

wow :shock: you've mastered the art of sarcasm...u should get a BS in "sarcasiology"!!!!

a BS! roffles to the double entendre!

SSBB is recommended highly with the old Gamecube controller, which proves the Wii-mote is NOT the answer for all future games.PhoebusFlows

i dont think anyone ever said it was the answer to all games

....why does the wii still NEED the classic controller and gamecube controller?? i mean ps3 and the 360 have a standard controller that seems to work, i believe, for most to all the games on them...tok1879

It's just an option. Mostly for little kids who may have a hard time learning the new Wiimote and are used to the old NES and SNES controllers. Just about ALL the Wii games use the Wiimote and Nunchuk, but it's time to have an option to use the old tried and true controllers.

It's safe to say that the Wii-mote is not ideal for fast and furious fighting games, that's for sure.

The same way I wouldnt want to see Wii-mote used on Soul Calibur 4 or Street Fighter 4. But I dont have to worry about that, those games arent coming to Wii anyways. lol

PhoebusFlows

You finally make a valid statement but then go and ruin it by throwing in a stupid anti-Wii remark at the end. There is little hope for you. :|

Even though those games may never come to the Wii, you can be sure that some form of at least Street Figther most likely will. I mean, it is Capcom afterall.

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"][QUOTE="Jakendo"]

[QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]SSBB is recommended highly with the old Gamecube controller, which proves the Wii-mote is NOT the answer for all future games.Jakendo

And your basing this on one game?

MK Wii is said to be also better using the GC controller... :D

You do know that different people play better with different controls right? One person might be better with the wiimote while someone else could be better with the GC controller.

uhh..have you even read the IGN preview of MK Wii???

SSBB is recommended highly with the old Gamecube controller, which proves the Wii-mote is NOT the answer for all future games.PhoebusFlows

It's only "highly recommended with the old Gamecube controller" by people who played it on the Gamecube and are used to it that way. Some people can't comprehend playing a game in a new way. Personally, I think the GC controller is the worst since the Power Glove.

SSBB is recommended highly with the old Gamecube controller, which proves the Wii-mote is NOT the answer for all future games.PhoebusFlows

i think wii mario kart also is best played with GC controller

[QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]SSBB is recommended highly with the old Gamecube controller, which proves the Wii-mote is NOT the answer for all future games.mingo123

i think wii mario kart also is best played with GC controller

Kind of hard to say until it comes out. I don't put much faith in that IGN review, considering the guy's actions in the pictures are so completely backwards for the controllers. Tilting the GC controller, lifeless with the Wiimote....