If you have a Wii, you're not a hardcore gamer - Hewlett Packard Philippines

*facepalm

The statement is made by HP Philippine's Business Development Manager, Jonathan Que, at Youth Congress for IT. He was talking about Cloud computing and OnLive. It's pretty sad that even fanboyism or shall we say ignorance is present in other computer related companies about video games even for middle aged people. The above statement is hard to take seriously and for that he loses any credibility. sigh....

Have you heard of other ignorant statements from other companies pertaining to video games?

Someone will probably ask for a link. It just sounds like PR. They don't actually need to believe or care about a word they say. I wouldn't worry about it.

Someone will probably ask for a link. It just sounds like PR. They don't actually believe or care about a word they say. I wouldn't worry about it.

LovePotionNo9

Tell that to my friend who not only owns a Wii he owns and Xbox360 PS3 Original Xbox, 2 Playstations 2s, 1 PS1 (fat) Atari 2600 Coleco vision NES SNES Sega Genisis and a pretty nice gaming PC, and if we count handhelds he has 3 Gameboy advances and has had 4 PSP's including the red god of war edition. the only system he really wishes he hadnt sold is his Gamecube.

Wii is my only current gen console. I've been gaming my whole life. I play video games everyday. I dunno, but I wouldn't really call myself a casual gamer..

How is it facepalm worthy? How is the Wii a hardcore gamer platform? Why do some of you insist on defeding the Wii as a hardcore platform? It's THE most casual family, young children focused platform in the history of the gaming industry. It is what it is, I don't get why some of you get angered by the truth.

[QUOTE="JohnDead80"]

How is it facepalm worthy? How is the Wii a hardcore gamer platform? Why do some of you insist on defeding the Wii as a hardcore platform? It's THE most casual family, young children focused platform in the history of the gaming industry. It is what it is, I don't get why some of you get angered by the truth.

Birdy09

If you only have a Wii you're not a core gamer, but thats true for any single console owner. If you think you're a core gamer with only one system you're fooling yourself. Owning a Wii in it's self doesn't make you casual though. Wii has some solid core games, they just all look like crap.

Gamers should not care about what other people play.

This industry isn't just for YOU anyway, it's meant to be played by a diverse and large audience.

The Wii has enough games to satisfy a core demographic, just like the other consoles.

Gamers should not care about what other people play.

This industry isn't just for YOU anyway, it's meant to be played by a diverse and large audience.

The Wii has enough games to satisfy a core demographic, just like the other consoles.

Haziqonfire

Well, the wii barely has any games that caters to the core audience.

[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="JohnDead80"]

How is it facepalm worthy? How is the Wii a hardcore gamer platform? Why do some of you insist on defeding the Wii as a hardcore platform? It's THE most casual family, young children focused platform in the history of the gaming industry. It is what it is, I don't get why some of you get angered by the truth.

lordlors

Wii is my only current gen console. I've been gaming my whole life. I play video games everyday. I dunno, but I wouldn't really call myself a casual gamer..

trugs26

[QUOTE="trugs26"]

Wii is my only current gen console. I've been gaming my whole life. I play video games everyday. I dunno, but I wouldn't really call myself a casual gamer..

Blabadon

If he says so!

Now where does that leave us?

[QUOTE="trugs26"]

Wii is my only current gen console. I've been gaming my whole life. I play video games everyday. I dunno, but I wouldn't really call myself a casual gamer..

Blabadon

[QUOTE="trugs26"]

Wii is my only current gen console. I've been gaming my whole life. I play video games everyday. I dunno, but I wouldn't really call myself a casual gamer..

Blabadon

Why feel sorry for me when I'm enjoying video games?

I don't have the time or money to play every single game on every single platform. I'd rather stick to one platform I enjoy, and explore the platform to its fullest potential. There is no need to feel sorrow here. If I had more money and had 16 hours of the without the worry of studies, work and my social life, then maybe I'd consider another console.

As of now, my Wii and handheld give me plenty of hours and fun every day.

[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

Well, the wii barely has any games that caters to the core audience.

trugs26

Ignorance.

How is it facepalm worthy? How is the Wii a hardcore gamer platform? Why do some of you insist on defeding the Wii as a hardcore platform? It's THE most casual family, young children focused platform in the history of the gaming industry. It is what it is, I don't get why some of you get angered by the truth.JohnDead80

How is it facepalm worthy? How is the Wii a hardcore gamer platform? Why do some of you insist on defeding the Wii as a hardcore platform? It's THE most casual family, young children focused platform in the history of the gaming industry. It is what it is, I don't get why some of you get angered by the truth.JohnDead80

Where do I begin?

1. Owning a game or system does not automaticly turn someone into a hardcore gamer or casual gamer.
2. There are games on the Wii that are definatively more hardcore than your average HD twin game.
3. One can only play Wii Sports or The Sims and still be hardcore. Heck, I know plenty in the Sims community who only play The Sims and are far more hardcore than your average gamer
4. There is a term for people I use to describe people who are obsessed with Hardcore or casual (usually considering themselves hardcore), I wont mention the term though.
5. There are plenty of core games on the Wii if you know where to look. Just check the spreadsheet.
6. Hardcore and casual are terms we will never agree on anyway. I just wish those two terms could go away.
7. I play roguelikes and I play on the Wii. I have also shown strong dedication to some of the games I have played.

I really doubt that's what he meant, and people choose when to "get" or not to "get" what someone is saying just becasue they feel like argueing. JohnDead80

^ can I settle this? or try to anyway.

The statement is too generalised since there are plenty of gamer who picked up a Wii to supplement whatever else they had. Not to mention, the "hardcore" typically don't only own just one system or play just one type of game (unless they are truly broke or blind to anything other than thier platform of choice). Preferring the Wii also doesn't mean you have to turn in your nerd card--trust me if you're on these forums, you're in the club.

For those on the other side of the argument that swear up and down that Wii is a hardcore-gaming mecca you are equally deluded. The Wii has missed a boatload of good games over the last six years that PS360 owners have enjoyed. There is no denying that. Saying "well Mario, Zelda, Metroid is all I need" only makes you look ridiculous. These games are great, sure, but here's the thing: Not everybody likes them. Mario Galaxy 1 and 2, apparently the holy grail of gaming... and I'm the only person in my group of friends that even likes the game. I've tried getting my buddies into it. They usually play for about 15 minutes and return the controller. "Bu bu but they aren't gamers!" Think again. At a glance some of them look like your typical "bro" gamers, but some of them also like rpgs, some get into fighting games, puzzle games, one of them even likes visual novels and RTS.

Not to mention that Iwata himself that the "core" moved away from the Wii. There is no way he wouldn't admit to that unless it was already painfully obvious to anyone that's paying attention.

ok. it felt good getting that off my chest. come at me.

How is it facepalm worthy? How is the Wii a hardcore gamer platform? Why do some of you insist on defeding the Wii as a hardcore platform? It's THE most casual family, young children focused platform in the history of the gaming industry. It is what it is, I don't get why some of you get angered by the truth.JohnDead80

ignorance even in corporations but w.e they obviously missing out on how great the wii is

If its the only thing you play now you barely have a core experiance... thats just how it is.... the system sorely lacks in modern standards its not just about graphics.... dont care what happened in the past...Birdy09

There are 75 AA and above games on the Wii, of these 35 are exclusive. Plenty of core experiences to be had. Core and hardcore gamers can enjoy casual games as well.

[QUOTE="JohnDead80"]I really doubt that's what he meant, and people choose when to "get" or not to "get" what someone is saying just becasue they feel like argueing. Some-Mist

If its the only thing you play now you barely have a core experiance... thats just how it is.... the system sorely lacks in modern standards its not just about graphics.... dont care what happened in the past...Birdy09

[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="Some-Mist"]so if you own every console ever created, play the most hardcore games ever created, play videogames the majority of the day every day, own an insane library of games in basically every genre...but you own a wii you're not hardcore?Maroxad

There are 75 AA and above games on the Wii, of these 35 are exclusive. Plenty of core experiences to be had. Core and hardcore gamers can enjoy casual games as well.

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

[QUOTE="Birdy09"] If its the only thing you play now you barely have a core experiance... thats just how it is.... the system sorely lacks in modern standards its not just about graphics.... dont care what happened in the past...Birdy09

There are 75 AA and above games on the Wii, of these 35 are exclusive. Plenty of core experiences to be had. Core and hardcore gamers can enjoy casual games as well.

gaming on the wii does not make you any less hardcore then gaming on the hd twins

And here I thought idiotic statements revolving around video games only happened in SW...

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

[QUOTE="Birdy09"] If its the only thing you play now you barely have a core experiance... thats just how it is.... the system sorely lacks in modern standards its not just about graphics.... dont care what happened in the past...Birdy09

There are 75 AA and above games on the Wii, of these 35 are exclusive. Plenty of core experiences to be had. Core and hardcore gamers can enjoy casual games as well.

Exclusivewise, it beats the PS3 and 360.

However, I will agree with you that its overall library, its online, hardware and social elements are weak. Even then, it is my favorite console this gen, because it supports my PC perfectly.

I don't see what the controversy is all about. :o

I kid, I kid though I'm not a Wii fan, it's a console with it's fair share of core games but I'm just no fan of needing to use Wiimote for such games and don't get me started on the visuals. :P

[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="Maroxad"]

There are 75 AA and above games on the Wii, of these 35 are exclusive. Plenty of core experiences to be had. Core and hardcore gamers can enjoy casual games as well.

Mario1331

gaming on the wii does not make you any less hardcore then gaming on the hd twins

[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="Maroxad"]

There are 75 AA and above games on the Wii, of these 35 are exclusive. Plenty of core experiences to be had. Core and hardcore gamers can enjoy casual games as well.

Maroxad

Exclusivewise, it beats the PS3 and 360.

However, I will agree with you that its overall library, its online, hardware and social elements are weak. Even then, it is my favorite console this gen, because it supports my PC perfectly.

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="Birdy09"] And yet compared to the other big 3 systems that isnt impressive... then graphics, online, competitive/social scenes are next to non existant... the only online game I have been slightly impressed with wasMario Kart Wii in terms of online... what he says is correct.... for a core gamer experiance it is by far the most lacking.Birdy09

gaming on the wii does not make you any less hardcore then gaming on the hd twins

i have all 3 so im good:) but from a corporate standpoint there is much to be dissappointed by what this man said, its like he doesnt even know games

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

[QUOTE="Birdy09"] And yet compared to the other big 3 systems that isnt impressive... then graphics, online, competitive/social scenes are next to non existant... the only online game I have been slightly impressed with wasMario Kart Wii in terms of online... what he says is correct.... for a core gamer experiance it is by far the most lacking.Birdy09

Exclusivewise, it beats the PS3 and 360.

However, I will agree with you that its overall library, its online, hardware and social elements are weak. Even then, it is my favorite console this gen, because it supports my PC perfectly.

While it is true I wouldnt be happy with only a Wii, I wouldnt be happy with only a PS3 or 360 either. Oh and an avid gamer could go through this generation fine with just a Wii. It dephends a lot on many factors. Longetivity of games, free time available for games, personal taste, virtual console/gamecube games that may have been missed, ect.