If you were Microsoft and/or the Big N, would you put xbox gamepass on the Switch? Why or why not?

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#1 MarkoftheSivak
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Just a good divisive thought I had.

Preface: I own and play on PS4, Xbox 1X and PC and still love my 3DS. (Yet to own a Switchm but it's inevitable.)

Reason I thought of it, is if they released gamepass on Switch, I would go and try actively buy one.

Gamepass on the go just seems like it would be ridiculously fun.

If i were an executive at either company i totally would, because in my non-professional opinion it would just print money for both companies.

What do you all think?


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#2 Archangel3371
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If I were Microsoft I’d definitely would want to put Game Pass on the Switch. It would be a great way for them to tap into the Japanese market that way.

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If you are Microsoft you want Gamepass on both PS and Nintendo and whatever else it can reach but both Nintendo and PS has their own online service they want to protect.

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#4 NathanDrakeSwag
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If I was Nintendo I wouldn't allow it on my platform. They already make money hand over fist on software sales. They don't need to create the expectation for their base that games should be given away for free through search engine rewards or accessed with $1 trials.

Microsoft is mad that gamers don't buy their 4/10 games so they want to force the rest of the industry to start giving their games away for free too.

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@sakaixx said:

If you are Microsoft you want Gamepass on both PS and Nintendo and whatever else it can reach but both Nintendo and PS has their own online service they want to protect.

Yea. It's more like the other way around. MS should be demanding Nintendo and Sony games on their console.😆

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

If I was Nintendo I wouldn't allow it on my platform. They already make money hand over fist on software sales. They don't need to create the expectation for their base that games should be given away for free through search engine rewards or accessed with $1 trials.

Microsoft is mad that gamers don't buy their 4/10 games so they want to force the rest of the industry to start giving their games away for free too.

EA and UBI.

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#7 blamix
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Nintendo and Playstation are doing great with GP. The only reason it gets mentioned a lot cause Lems has no games to talk about

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#8 NathanDrakeSwag
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@lundy86_4 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

If I was Nintendo I wouldn't allow it on my platform. They already make money hand over fist on software sales. They don't need to create the expectation for their base that games should be given away for free through search engine rewards or accessed with $1 trials.

Microsoft is mad that gamers don't buy their 4/10 games so they want to force the rest of the industry to start giving their games away for free too.

EA and UBI.

I can do a few Bing searches and get Origin Access and UPlay+ for free every month? Or alternate between a couple accounts to get $1 trials every months?

No I can't. I'd have to pay the full $15 a month or $100 a year. I don't pay a penny for GP and still get to play everything they release (which isn't saying much because they don't release anything worth a damn).

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#9 deactivated-654dc0d1e0e5b
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Over 3/4ths of the games on Game Pass aren't going to be ported to the inferior Switch, so sadly this cannot happen.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

I can do a few Bing searches and get Origin Access and UPlay+ for free every month? Or alternate between a couple accounts to get $1 trials every months?

No I can't. I'd have to pay the full $15 a month or $100 a year. I don't pay a penny for GP and still get to play everything they release (which isn't saying much because they don't release anything worth a damn).

EA Play was just on sale for a dollar via Steam. It's just gone up to $5 a month. GP has also gone up in price, barring the loophole posted on SW.

Care to try again?

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@lundy86_4 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

I can do a few Bing searches and get Origin Access and UPlay+ for free every month? Or alternate between a couple accounts to get $1 trials every months?

No I can't. I'd have to pay the full $15 a month or $100 a year. I don't pay a penny for GP and still get to play everything they release (which isn't saying much because they don't release anything worth a damn).

EA Play was just on sale for a dollar via Steam. It's just gone up to $5 a month. GP has also gone up in price, barring the loophole posted on SW.

Care to try again?

EA Play doesn't include day one releases. They don't put their games on it until they're done selling.

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No because MS games would have to be heavily modified to run on the Switch (notice how you see Switch ports way later) so a waste of time & money to do so, and sheep mostly like Nintendo's kiddy type games, so they wouldn't get enough subscriptions anyway.

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#13 NathanDrakeSwag
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@i_p_daily said:

No because MS games would have to be heavily modified to run on the Switch (notice how you see Switch ports way later) so a waste of time & money to do so, and sheep mostly like Nintendo's kiddy type games, so they wouldn't get enough subscriptions anyway.

They already have to be heavily modified to run on the Series S lol.

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#14  Edited By lundy86_4
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

EA Play doesn't include day one releases. They don't put their games on it until they're done selling.

You're right, my bad... It gets the 10 hours play, and the full priced subscription gets pre-day 1 releases... Kinda like what GP is doing atm, or building to if you take advantage of the loopholes.

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#15 Pedro
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All devices can benefit from cloud streaming.

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#16 lamprey263
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Yes, considering money to be made is through the service and having more subscribers grows the reach of the service and will help grow the catalog, it is a win for MS, and since Nintendo's first party does well on their devices and third parties just so-so, it would help bring in more royalties to Nintendo if they get a cut.

My big question is if Nintendo is on board would it be streaming only? Will local playbbe an option for third party games? Will MS make local play possible for first party games on Switch? And if this works out would Nintendo make available their own games perhaps for more of that money?

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If I was MS my main goal would be to put Gamepass on PS5 and Switch at all costs. That way they can eventually back out of the hardware business and reap profits from the spot where the profits actually come from... the games.

No, I'm not hating on MS.. and no, I'm not saying this will happen. I'm saying that if MS has a chance to get on those platforms while not needing hardware to push sales then why in the hell would they since they already are in the PC and cell/tablet space as well.

Making money from subs or through game sales is where the true money is. That's why console makers often sell their products at a loss since they can make it up in software sales.

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#18 pmanden
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@NathanDrakeSwag: Now you are just trolling. Ip is right, and the Series S is a lot more powerful than the Switch anyway. It would take a lot of time to downport Forza etc. to the Switch.

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@pmanden said:

@NathanDrakeSwag: Now you are just trolling. Ip is right, and the Series S is a lot more powerful than the Switch anyway. It would take a lot of time to downport Forza etc. to the Switch.

Don't mind him, he shits on MS every chance he gets, then says he plays MS games on PC gamepass, not very bright that one.

But yeah its would just take too much work to re-work all of MS games to run on Switch, both too much resources (money/workers etc) and time to do all that.

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@WitIsWisdom said:

If I was MS my main goal would be to put Gamepass on PS5 and Switch at all costs. That way they can eventually back out of the hardware business and reap profits from the spot where the profits actually come from... the games.

No, I'm not hating on MS.. and no, I'm not saying this will happen. I'm saying that if MS has a chance to get on those platforms while not needing hardware to push sales then why in the hell would they since they already are in the PC and cell/tablet space as well.

Making money from subs or through game sales is where the true money is. That's why console makers often sell their products at a loss since they can make it up in software sales.

This is why you are not running MS for what you have suggested is rather nonsensical.

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#21 Bluestars
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real gamers don't give a shit about platforms and companies...we want games.

though its funny seeing butthurt over exclusives,like buying a 2nd console is alien to fannyboys

hah

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#22  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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I think it would have to be the Xcloud service at this point, because no one is going to want to port everything to the switch to run on Gamepass, that is ridiculous. It might also defeat the purpose of the handheld needing to be connected to a good internet connection to benefit from Xcloud.

So I think the concept is better than the execution. So if I was MS, I'm not sure.

I suppose it's the same problem on Playstation. If everything has to be ported anyway... So I'm not convinced it makes sense. The games already run natively on Xbox consoles and PC, the digital distribution service isn't a huge impact. But if I'm going to bring it to other devices, it would have to be just Xcloud. I can't force developers to waste time and money to port everything.

But Playstation and Nintendo simply don't want things they can't control on their platforms.

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#23  Edited By SecretPolice
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MS has all the bases covered since xCloud is GP on the go. Just sayin. :P

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As a Game Pass streaming solution?.. Yes, i think that would be advantageous for both parties..

For Nintendo, there are next-gen 3rd party games that simply won't come to the Switch purely from a technical standpoint.. so having a steaming solution via Game Pass brings those games to the Switch platform and Xbox Live integration solves any issues with Nintendo's rather lackluster online system..

For Microsoft, it's all about more Game Pass subscribers.. plus those Switch owners may be incentivized to invest in an Xbox Series X|S for a native experience on their big screen..

Do i think it will happen?.. likely not.. there's some rather large logistical hurdles to overcome in order for a deal to be ironed out and i don't think there's enough interest from either side right now to make that happen.. maybe down the line as Game Pass continues to grow..

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@girlusocrazy said:

Would Game Pass on the go even work?

yes.. Game Pass streaming already works great on mobile phones and tablets.. there's no reason why a streaming solution wouldn't also work on the Switch..

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@lundy86_4 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

If I was Nintendo I wouldn't allow it on my platform. They already make money hand over fist on software sales. They don't need to create the expectation for their base that games should be given away for free through search engine rewards or accessed with $1 trials.

Microsoft is mad that gamers don't buy their 4/10 games so they want to force the rest of the industry to start giving their games away for free too.

EA and UBI.

I can do a few Bing searches and get Origin Access and UPlay+ for free every month? Or alternate between a couple accounts to get $1 trials every months?

No I can't. I'd have to pay the full $15 a month or $100 a year. I don't pay a penny for GP and still get to play everything they release (which isn't saying much because they don't release anything worth a damn).

lol, Bing.

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#29  Edited By st_monica
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Nintendo should not partner with MS. The reason is that Nintendo has the ability and capital to launch its own subscription service, which is Nintendo's greatest interest.

First, GamePass contains quite a few third-party games including indies that can run on the Switch. If Nintendo so desires, those third parties will also work with them to provide those games. In other words, Nintendo don't have to rely on MS to sign contracts with those third-parties to offer the games on Nintendo's service.

Second, MS first-party games aren't very important to Nintendo fans, for the obvious reason that Nintendo first-party games are the most important for them. Imagine how many Nintendo fans would be happy to join if Nintendo offered a large archive of the past and games from third-party partners in a subscription format. They don't need the MS brand.

It goes without saying that it is not a good idea to let other companies take a pie from a business that is more profitable to do in-house. If Nintendo decides that it is in their interest to launch a subscription service, they should start it themselves. There is no need to mix noise from the outside.

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#30 osan0
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With my MS hat on:

Yes absolutely. I want to bring gamepass and game streaming to anything and everything i possibly can. Switch, playstation, chromcast, an app on TVs, IOS, android, browsers, toasters, if it can run og doom i want to put gamepass on it and i want to make streaming available and i will also develop native games if desired.

Hell i would even go as far as actually porting my games to the switch natively if nintendo will allow gamepass but no streaming AND my games would be released day and date with the XSX version.

as MS i dont give 1 single toss about hardware that i cant put a 100% markup on. i dont make money on xbox hardware. i make money on software and services. i want that gamepass sub. i wants that liquid gold flowing though my company in vast and consistent quantities.

so as far as i am concerned anything that allows gamepass on it gets treated as a first class citizen. anything with gamepass is an xbox.

With my nintendo hat on:

Hell no. I can't see the pitch MS could make that would persuade me. gamepass would be like a parasite on the switch, just draining lots of revenue from game sales and online subs. it would also give MS a lot more control and leverage over my platform. they dictate the release schedules. they have a lot more clout over the games coming out. they get more leverage when making deals with 3rd parties.

i may get a spike in switch sales but i don't sell those at a huge profit margin. i just cant see what gamepass would give me.

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I think it's a no brainer for both parties. Most of the games available on Game Pass are not available on the Nintendo store, anyway. It would cost Nintendo almost nothing and sell units.

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#32 pyro1245
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Absolutely.

XCloud would be a no-brainer as well as some games can't run on the Switch in an acceptable form.

A big benefit from this arrangement would be cloud saves working across the platforms. It's so cool to be able to play a game on PC, then go out to the living room and pick right back up on the Xbox. Every game should have cross-save for every other platform. Make it so.

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#33 mojito1988
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Well the Switch is not powerful enough for many Gamepass games so nope. Sony does not need Gamepass they just need to learn how to support PsNow better. Sony has a REALLY bad track record of supporting stuff (Psp go, Vita, Sonly Online Entertainment etc.)

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Yes. Most of Switch's content don't overlap much.

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#35  Edited By WitIsWisdom
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@Pedro said:
@WitIsWisdom said:

If I was MS my main goal would be to put Gamepass on PS5 and Switch at all costs. That way they can eventually back out of the hardware business and reap profits from the spot where the profits actually come from... the games.

No, I'm not hating on MS.. and no, I'm not saying this will happen. I'm saying that if MS has a chance to get on those platforms while not needing hardware to push sales then why in the hell would they since they already are in the PC and cell/tablet space as well.

Making money from subs or through game sales is where the true money is. That's why console makers often sell their products at a loss since they can make it up in software sales.

This is why you are not running MS for what you have suggested is rather nonsensical.

Making larger profit margins is only nonsensical to petty fanboys.

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if Sony won't do it why do anyone think Nintendo would be stupid enough to do it. Any console manufacturer that allows game pass on their system will quickly cut into third-party support for that console manufacturer. It will be near impossible for that company to continue to receive a cut of third-party sales the moment they allow Game Pass on the system. The only company that benefits from that would be Microsoft. This is why neither Nintendo or Sony will be that gullible to let game pass on there product