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#1 cobrax25
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*let me just say...that I am not here to comment on anything at all....I am only saying what was listed on IGN's front page. In fact...Im not even gonna add my opinion on the game here.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/822/822714p1.html

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#2 darklinkgod
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i argree with them no game i mean no game no matter how good should get above a 9 when its only 8 hours long
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#3 nowakawon
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So? Halo:CE got reviews in the 80/100s. It happens, people have different opinions. That's why we shouldtake the majority.
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#4 nowakawon
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i argree with them no game i mean no game no matter how good should get above a 9 when its only 8 hours long darklinkgod

Every other review has said 10-15.

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#5 -Sora
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i argree with them no game i mean no game no matter how good should get above a 9 when its only 8 hours long darklinkgod
Well it has multiplayer, that adds to the hours.
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#6 Freshprince221
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89 is not bad dude. not bad at all.
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#7 gearsoftime
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lol:lol:!
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#8 --ProtoMan--
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So? Halo:CE got reviews in the 80/100s. It happens, people have different opinions. That's why we take the majority.nowakawon

Exactly... so why aren't we doing this with Nintendo games?The generalopinion is thatMP3 is AAA.

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#9 nowakawon
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[QUOTE="nowakawon"]So? Halo:CE got reviews in the 80/100s. It happens, people have different opinions. That's why we take the majority.--ProtoMan--

Exactly... so why aren't we doing this with Nintendo games?The generalopinion is thatMP3 is AAA.

Because this is a Gamespot forum.

IGN =/= Gamespot.

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#10 Mizarus
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[QUOTE="nowakawon"]So? Halo:CE got reviews in the 80/100s. It happens, people have different opinions. That's why we take the majority.--ProtoMan--

Exactly... so why aren't we doing this with Nintendo games?The generalopinion is thatMP3 is AAA.

yeah.. last time i chcked system wars= Gamespot Reviews, it dosent matter if its the only site that gave a game a diferent score , its the score that counts, (kinda sad accuatly)

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#11 Tsug_Ze_Wind
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Only read the first page, but holy haz-arsh.

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#12 Tsug_Ze_Wind
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So? Halo:CE got reviews in the 80/100s. It happens, people have different opinions. That's why we take the majority.nowakawon

Because this is a Gamespot forum.

IGN =/= Gamespot.

nowakawon

:|

Dude, in the same quote chain...

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#13 Velocitas8
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IGN's Halo 3 reader review page is amusing.
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#14 --ProtoMan--
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[QUOTE="--ProtoMan--"]

[QUOTE="nowakawon"]So? Halo:CE got reviews in the 80/100s. It happens, people have different opinions. That's why we take the majority.nowakawon

Exactly... so why aren't we doing this with Nintendo games?The generalopinion is thatMP3 is AAA.

Because this is a Gamespot forum.

IGN =/= Gamespot.

So then why didn't you say "we accept whatever GameSpot says"?

In what instancesdo we take themajority, and in what instances do we take GameSpot's review?

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#15 --ProtoMan--
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[QUOTE="--ProtoMan--"]

[QUOTE="nowakawon"]So? Halo:CE got reviews in the 80/100s. It happens, people have different opinions. That's why we take the majority.Mizarus

Exactly... so why aren't we doing this with Nintendo games?The generalopinion is thatMP3 is AAA.

yeah.. last time i chcked system wars= Gamespot Reviews, it dosent matter if its the only site that gave a game a diferent score , its the score that counts, (kinda sad accuatly)

I am fully aware how scoring works here. My question to him was, since when do we "take the majority"?

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#16 Zero_Fate_
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Some legimiate complaints and a well written reviewIMO.
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#17 nowakawon
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[QUOTE="nowakawon"]So? Halo:CE got reviews in the 80/100s. It happens, people have different opinions. That's why we take the majority.Tsug_Ze_Wind

Because this is a Gamespot forum.

IGN =/= Gamespot.

nowakawon

:|

Dude, in the same quote chain...

I meant to put should in there woops. Going to fix that now.

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#18 nintendofreak_2
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[QUOTE="--ProtoMan--"]

[QUOTE="nowakawon"]So? Halo:CE got reviews in the 80/100s. It happens, people have different opinions. That's why we take the majority.nowakawon

Exactly... so why aren't we doing this with Nintendo games?The generalopinion is thatMP3 is AAA.

Because this is a Gamespot forum.

IGN =/= Gamespot.

So it's alright if it's beneficial to your views. Of course why didn't I see before?: :roll:
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#19 --ProtoMan--
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Because here at GameSpot, we change the rules whenever it's convenient...
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#20 Sir-Marwin105
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So Call of Duty 3 is better than Halo 3 according to Ign AU?
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#21 nowakawon
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I'm sorry. I messed up my wording. Let me make myself more clear. This is why we SHOULD take the majority. As one persons opinion isn't enough.
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#22 Tsug_Ze_Wind
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So? Halo:CE got reviews in the 80/100s. It happens, people have different opinions. That's why we shouldtake the majority.nowakawon

So now you're saying that we should take the majority, but we don't.

Now see, that makes sense. :P

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#23 Mizarus
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great review but they are going to get killed.
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#24 HelixTurnHelix
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Oh teh noeszz! It's teh Australians. Not that I really care, since I'm not a Halo fan.
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#26 jbrittain
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I haven't played Halo 3 yet, so I can't comment on whether I agree with this review or not, but I found it to be very well written. I thought the review was really humorous while making some valid points.
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#27 nowakawon
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[QUOTE="nowakawon"]So? Halo:CE got reviews in the 80/100s. It happens, people have different opinions. That's why we shouldtake the majority.Tsug_Ze_Wind

So now you're saying that we should take the majority, but we don't.

Now see, that makes sense. :P

Yea, i'm sorry. *facepalm* I messed up.

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#28 Koolsen
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OMG OMG The Iternet is collapsing they gave it a 8. **** en 9!!!! *Combusts into flame*
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#29 nintendofreak_2
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I'm sorry. I messed up my wording. Let me make myself more clear. This is why we SHOULD take the majority. As one persons opinion isn't enough. nowakawon
Unless Gamespot gives the game a favorable rating.
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#30 Velocitas8
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Some legimiate complaints and a well written reviewIMO.Zero_Fate_

Indeed. I just read through it, why is this considered "controversial?" The breakdown of the scores and their reasoning at the end of the review is very much along the lines of what I expected from early on.

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#31 nowakawon
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[QUOTE="nowakawon"]I'm sorry. I messed up my wording. Let me make myself more clear. This is why we SHOULD take the majority. As one persons opinion isn't enough. nintendofreak_2
Unless Gamespot gives the game a favorable rating.

No.

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#32 Lab392
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89's not bad, not what I'd expect though. anyway, It's just one reviewers opinion, no need for it to be controversial.
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#33 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="darklinkgod"]i argree with them no game i mean no game no matter how good should get above a 9 when its only 8 hours long -Sora
Well it has multiplayer, that adds to the hours.

Not if you don't give a rat's ass about multiplayer.

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#34 nintendofreak_2
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No.

nowakawon
So you're saying that we should use the majority? Interesting.
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#35 mjarantilla
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89's not bad, not what I'd expect though. anyway, It's just one reviewers opinion, no need for it to be controversial.Lab392

There are three reviewers writing that article. :P

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#36 ---OkeyDokey---
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thats sounds like a very honest review.

i find it strange that gs review of mp3 completely focused on minimal negatives like the slighty easier difficulty and the sameyness of the game as justification for such a low score, while halo 3 is just as guilty of being more of the same, yet there was no mention of it in the review, despite the fact they made such a big deal out of it for mp3.

im not saying gs is biased, i agree with their review of TP, but that metroid review i think really tried hard to make some little things into a big deal for no apparent reason. i could find MUCH more viable complaints for games like oblivion, gears of war and warioware that managed to get AAA scores. how exactly is mp3 worse than a three hour minigame collection and an unchanged gc port?

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#37 VoodooHak
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Well, there has to be a few that make up the low end of the Bell curve.
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#38 Sir-Marwin105
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[QUOTE="-Sora"][QUOTE="darklinkgod"]i argree with them no game i mean no game no matter how good should get above a 9 when its only 8 hours long mjarantilla

Well it has multiplayer, that adds to the hours.

Not if you don't give a rat's ass about multiplayer.

That is clearly the worst logic I have ever seen.
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#39 leo4578
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I am suprised so many websites gave halo 3 a perfect score. I mean a perfect score means that game has a long, exahilarating campaign, breathtaking visuals, innovative gameplay, and deep, emotional story. Halo3 doesn't have a 10/10 story, the gameplay is very similar to HALo 1, and 2, and the graphics are good, but not the best. I think this review is unbiased, and the people actually have the balls to give the game an honest score. I am not trying to say Halo sucks or anything, is just its not revolutionary.

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#40 Lab392
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[QUOTE="Lab392"]89's not bad, not what I'd expect though. anyway, It's just one reviewers opinion, no need for it to be controversial.mjarantilla

There are three reviewers writing that article. :P

Ah, well then...shun the unbelievers....shuuuuuuuuuun

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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="-Sora"][QUOTE="darklinkgod"]i argree with them no game i mean no game no matter how good should get above a 9 when its only 8 hours long Sir-Marwin105

Well it has multiplayer, that adds to the hours.

Not if you don't give a rat's ass about multiplayer.

That is clearly the worst logic I have ever seen.

I agree. That is terrible logic.

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#42 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="-Sora"][QUOTE="darklinkgod"]i argree with them no game i mean no game no matter how good should get above a 9 when its only 8 hours long Sir-Marwin105

Well it has multiplayer, that adds to the hours.

Not if you don't give a rat's ass about multiplayer.

That is clearly the worst logic I have ever seen.

How so? I don't play on Live, so clearly, any hours that the multiplayer ostensibly adds are meaningless to me.

Ars Technica gave Halo 3 SP campaign a 7/10 for the same reason. They're reviewing the multiplayer gameplay separately, because it has a separate design intent.

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#43 nowakawon
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[QUOTE="nowakawon"]

No.

nintendofreak_2

So you're saying that we should use the majority? Interesting.

Yes. Plus it's one point higher for Halo 3.

Yea, i'm a Halo 3 fanboy. No, that's not the reason I think we should use majority.

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#44 --ProtoMan--
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thats sounds like a very honest review.

i find it strange that gs review of mp3 completely focused on minimal negatives like the slighty easier difficulty and the sameyness of the game as justification for such a low score, while halo 3 is just as guilty of being more of the same, yet there was no mention of it in the review, despite the fact they made such a big deal out of it for mp3.

im not saying gs is biased, i agree with their review of TP, but that metroid review i think really tried hard to make some little things into a big deal for no apparent reason. i could find MUCH more viable complaints for games like oblivion, gears of war and warioware that managed to get AAA scores. how exactly is mp3 worse than a three hour minigame collection and an unchanged gc port?

---OkeyDokey---

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. For MP3, GS said it was too similar, but too different in that it was paced too much like a standard FPS. But then here comes Halo 3, and nobody cares how similar it is to Halo 1-2. Plus, they considered the differences to be good things.

I respect both series, but to change the rules is totally wrong.

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#45 Sir-Marwin105
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[QUOTE="Sir-Marwin105"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="-Sora"][QUOTE="darklinkgod"]i argree with them no game i mean no game no matter how good should get above a 9 when its only 8 hours long mjarantilla

Well it has multiplayer, that adds to the hours.

Not if you don't give a rat's ass about multiplayer.

That is clearly the worst logic I have ever seen.

How so? I don't play on Live, so clearly, any hours that the multiplayer ostensibly adds are meaningless to me.

Ars Technica gave Halo 3 SP campaign a 7/10 for the same reason. They're reviewing the multiplayer gameplay separately, because it has a largely separate audience.

That clearly doesn't mean the multiplayer doesn't add hours. Just because you don't use it, doesn't mean it's not there.
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#46 nintendofreak_2
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Yes. Plus it's one point higher for Halo 3.

Yea, i'm a Halo 3 fanboy. No, that's not the reason I think we should use majority.

nowakawon
It's funny because that's what most sheep have been saying all along.
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#47 fistoflight
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The score seems unbias if you guys actually read the whole thing, they pointed out good things about the game and bad things equally. Though I think the reviwer really thought hard between deciding to give it a 9.0 or 8.9 knowing the controversy it might cause.
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#48 ---OkeyDokey---
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[QUOTE="---OkeyDokey---"]

thats sounds like a very honest review.

i find it strange that gs review of mp3 completely focused on minimal negatives like the slighty easier difficulty and the sameyness of the game as justification for such a low score, while halo 3 is just as guilty of being more of the same, yet there was no mention of it in the review, despite the fact they made such a big deal out of it for mp3.

im not saying gs is biased, i agree with their review of TP, but that metroid review i think really tried hard to make some little things into a big deal for no apparent reason. i could find MUCH more viable complaints for games like oblivion, gears of war and warioware that managed to get AAA scores. how exactly is mp3 worse than a three hour minigame collection and an unchanged gc port?

--ProtoMan--

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. For MP3, GS said it was too similar, but too different in that it was paced too much like a standard FPS. But then here comes Halo 3, and nobody cares how similar it is to Halo 1-2. Plus, they considered the differences to be good things.

I respect both series, but to change the rules is totally wrong.

metroid prime 3 is hands down the best game on the wii and should have been scored accordingly.

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#49 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Sir-Marwin105"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="-Sora"][QUOTE="darklinkgod"]i argree with them no game i mean no game no matter how good should get above a 9 when its only 8 hours long Sir-Marwin105

Well it has multiplayer, that adds to the hours.

Not if you don't give a rat's ass about multiplayer.

That is clearly the worst logic I have ever seen.

How so? I don't play on Live, so clearly, any hours that the multiplayer ostensibly adds are meaningless to me.

Ars Technica gave Halo 3 SP campaign a 7/10 for the same reason. They're reviewing the multiplayer gameplay separately, because it has a largely separate audience.

That clearly doesn't mean the multiplayer doesn't add hours. Just because you don't use it, doesn't mean it's not there.

Of course it does. If it's not worth playing for me, then it's not there for me. It might as well not exist, and Halo 3 to me ends up as a short play session. This is why I'm so opposed to games that try to mix it up and do both SP and MP: the SP almost always gets short-shafted, like Gears of War, Halo 2, Resistance, GRAW, etc., and the vast majority of gamers are still SP gamers.

Then you get games that do ONLY SP, or ONLY MP, and you get masterpieces of our time, like BioShock, Battlefield 2, Metroid Prime 3, etc.

One of the few games that does both SP and MP right is the Half-Life series, but that's the only one I can think of.

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#50 nowakawon
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[QUOTE="---OkeyDokey---"]

thats sounds like a very honest review.

i find it strange that gs review of mp3 completely focused on minimal negatives like the slighty easier difficulty and the sameyness of the game as justification for such a low score, while halo 3 is just as guilty of being more of the same, yet there was no mention of it in the review, despite the fact they made such a big deal out of it for mp3.

im not saying gs is biased, i agree with their review of TP, but that metroid review i think really tried hard to make some little things into a big deal for no apparent reason. i could find MUCH more viable complaints for games like oblivion, gears of war and warioware that managed to get AAA scores. how exactly is mp3 worse than a three hour minigame collection and an unchanged gc port?

--ProtoMan--

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. For MP3, GS said it was too similar, but too different in that it was paced too much like a standard FPS. But then here comes Halo 3, and nobody cares how similar it is to Halo 1-2. Plus, they considered the differences to be good things.

I respect both series, but to change the rules is totally wrong.

I've never play metroid, so please correct me if i'm wrong. While I do think if Halo 3 shipped with campaign and multiplayer it would have just scored a 8.5 for the same reasons MP3 did. However, Halo 3 did not just ship with campaign and multiplayer but also forge and saved films. Some push these off to the side like they are no big deal. Yet forge will last your hours of gameplay and entertainment. As saved films will also last you hours of entertainment.