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Of course it's a new engine...I already spoke on this yesterday...
[QUOTE="ForTheNguyen"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]cows are on damage control.....the game doesn't even come out for a year....they act like it's finished and releasing next weekHarden_hawk
Sort of like when lemmings say Killzone 2 looks bad?
exactly, lemmings am sad.
stop saying ng2 looks better than ngs bc it doesn't. of course ng2 has a long ways to go
It looks alot better.
NO...
**Edit**
Ryu on xbox360 looks like an over-plasticy cartoon action figure, on PS3 he looks like a real man...just like all the other games on these systems are starting to show the real diffrence in their power.
Xbox360 = good at creating over plasticy and unrealistic worlds, people and basically everything else
PS3 = good at creating realistic People environments and worlds with advanced lighting physics and animation
After further insection, I've come to the conclusion that NG2 infact dose NOT look like NGS at all.
NG2 on the xbox360 has a way more cartoony look than NGS. NGS on PS3 has a way more realistic look and atpmoshere than what's being shown on xbox360 for NG2. LOOK FOR YOUR SELF!
I know they looked diffrent befor but I just couldn't put my finger on it. But now, after my last post, it's clear to me!
proof11102
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25919193&page=3
Oh please cow take ur fanboy troll comments somewhere else, nobody cares what u think and ur opinion isn't a fact.
-wii60-
What...YOU mad?
I'm just poiting out the fact that I'm a sony fan and I had already made the discovery that the graphics were not the same by doing a comparison with my eyes...before you made this thread.
I really don't care how you feel about it. I've seen you say Killzone 2 looks terrible, so that pretty much put you up there with the biggest fanboy trolls on this board.
[QUOTE="-wii60-"]Oh please cow take ur fanboy troll comments somewhere else, nobody cares what u think and ur opinion isn't a fact.
proof11102
What...YOU mad?
I'm just poiting out the fact that I'm a sony fan and I had already made the discovery that the graphics were not the same by doing a comparison with my eyes...before you made this thread.
I really don't care how you feel about it. I've seen you say Killzone 2 looks terrible, so that pretty much put you up there with the biggest fanboy trolls on this board.
:lol: Alright man your joke was funny before but you can stop it now, NG2 already looks better than NGS and it still has a year of dev time.Kritical_Strike
Funny, I must havemissed that part of you article...could you quote that for me? :)
And the dude doing the previewseemed to bea pretty big NG fan too, surely if it looked better than sigma he'd say it alas...Anywayz who said I want to "stop it"? You clowns are funny I love games like this. I wouldn't even touch Heavely Sword if not for the amazing effort put in by the actors who play in the story.
I'm talking about graphics alone. I think the "game" itself will be awsome. Im a gamer first, but this is SYSTEM WARS. Maybe you shouold leave if you don't like it.
If Killzone 2 can get bashed, as amazing a console that looks,then so can anything else that's less impressive in comparison.
[QUOTE="proof11102"][QUOTE="-wii60-"]Oh please cow take ur fanboy troll comments somewhere else, nobody cares what u think and ur opinion isn't a fact.
-wii60-
What...YOU mad?
I'm just poiting out the fact that I'm a sony fan and I had already made the discovery that the graphics were not the same by doing a comparison with my eyes...before you made this thread.
I really don't care how you feel about it. I've seen you say Killzone 2 looks terrible, so that pretty much put you up there with the biggest fanboy trolls on this board.
I know it's a whole bunch of you insecure xbox fans out there who feel the need to bash that game to no end, but does that make it any better?
Oh and again, you'd better look around buddy. You're in SYSTEM WARS. If you want to make Pro xbox posts that aren't bashed or rediculed you'd better head over to the official xbox 360 fourm. I see you come in and bash almost every Pro PS3 thread ever made, you have no room to come in and b**** when someone else posts theirs.
[QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]:lol: Alright man your joke was funny before but you can stop it now, NG2 already looks better than NGS and it still has a year of dev time.proof11102
Funny, I must havemissed that part of you article...could you quote that for me? :)
And the dude doing the previewseemed to bea pretty big NG fan too, surely if it looked better than sigma he'd say it alas...Anywayz who said I want to "stop it"? You clowns are funny I love games like this. I wouldn't even touch Heavely Sword if not for the amazing effort put in by the actors who play in the story.
I'm talking about graphics alone. I think the "game" itself will be awsome. Im a gamer first, but this is SYSTEM WARS. Maybe you shouold leave if you don't like it.
If Killzone 2 can get bashed, as amazing a console that looks,then so can anything else that's less impressive in comparison.
WTF? NG2 graphics>NGS screens That is the truth, stop being a fanboy
HS was a FLOP, and the acting was mediocre :|
KZ2 looked amazing, anyone who said otherwise is a fool, the same applies to NG2 :wink:
[QUOTE="-wii60-"][QUOTE="proof11102"][QUOTE="-wii60-"]Oh please cow take ur fanboy troll comments somewhere else, nobody cares what u think and ur opinion isn't a fact.
proof11102
What...YOU mad?
I'm just poiting out the fact that I'm a sony fan and I had already made the discovery that the graphics were not the same by doing a comparison with my eyes...before you made this thread.
I really don't care how you feel about it. I've seen you say Killzone 2 looks terrible, so that pretty much put you up there with the biggest fanboy trolls on this board.
I know it's a whole bunch of you insecure xbox fans out there who feel the need to bash that game to no end, but does that make it any better?
Oh and again, you'd better look around buddy. You're in SYSTEM WARS. If you want to make Pro xbox posts that aren't bashed or rediculed you'd better head over to the official xbox 360 fourm. I see you come in and bash almost every Pro PS3 thread ever made, you have no room to come in and b**** when someone else posts theirs.
You're not really bashing the 360, though. You're just making yourself look dumb.
[QUOTE="-wii60-"][QUOTE="proof11102"][QUOTE="-wii60-"]Oh please cow take ur fanboy troll comments somewhere else, nobody cares what u think and ur opinion isn't a fact.
proof11102
What...YOU mad?
I'm just poiting out the fact that I'm a sony fan and I had already made the discovery that the graphics were not the same by doing a comparison with my eyes...before you made this thread.
I really don't care how you feel about it. I've seen you say Killzone 2 looks terrible, so that pretty much put you up there with the biggest fanboy trolls on this board.
I know it's a whole bunch of you insecure xbox fans out there who feel the need to bash that game to no end, but does that make it any better?
Oh and again, you'd better look around buddy. You're in SYSTEM WARS. If you want to make Pro xbox posts that aren't bashed or rediculed you'd better head over to the official xbox 360 fourm. I see you come in and bash almost every Pro PS3 thread ever made, you have no room to come in and b**** when someone else posts theirs.
[QUOTE="-wii60-"][QUOTE="proof11102"][QUOTE="-wii60-"]Oh please cow take ur fanboy troll comments somewhere else, nobody cares what u think and ur opinion isn't a fact.
proof11102
What...YOU mad?
I'm just poiting out the fact that I'm a sony fan and I had already made the discovery that the graphics were not the same by doing a comparison with my eyes...before you made this thread.
I really don't care how you feel about it. I've seen you say Killzone 2 looks terrible, so that pretty much put you up there with the biggest fanboy trolls on this board.
I know it's a whole bunch of you insecure xbox fans out there who feel the need to bash that game to no end, but does that make it any better?
Oh and again, you'd better look around buddy. You're in SYSTEM WARS. If you want to make Pro xbox posts that aren't bashed or rediculed you'd better head over to the official xbox 360 fourm. I see you come in and bash almost every Pro PS3 thread ever made, you have no room to come in and b**** when someone else posts theirs.
Bro, stop parading around here yelling "this is system warz!!1", we know that, I don't care if you make a counter argument to something it's only your arguments are a joke :D
Oh please cow take ur fanboy troll comments somewhere else, nobody cares what u think and ur opinion isn't a fact.
-wii60-
I think this game will be amazing no doubt about it, but didnt itagaki say that he didnt want to show off ninja gaiden 2 because he didnt want to embarrass all the other developers with the graphics of ninja gaiden 2? If so then why does it look so cartoony and why doesnt it impress us graphically? The Ninja Gaiden series is awesome but I think Itagaki sometimes talks alot of crap and doesnt back it up. And to the guy who showed the pictures from ninja gaiden sigma vs ninja gaiden 2, im sorry but ninja gaiden sigma looks alot more impressive graphically then what we have seen in ninja gaiden 2. I think its early and ninja gaiden 2 will look much better when it is done, but will it be able to run in 1080p, 60fps, and have self shadowing all at the same time like they did in ninja gaiden sigma? This game will be awesome but im still dissappointed in the graphics. Hope it looks tons better then it does now because heavenly sword graphically makes this game look like garbage.
[QUOTE="-wii60-"]Oh please cow take ur fanboy troll comments somewhere else, nobody cares what u think and ur opinion isn't a fact.
squallff8_fan
I think this game will be amazing no doubt about it, but didnt itagaki say that he didnt want to show off ninja gaiden 2 because he didnt want to embarrass all the other developers with the graphics of ninja gaiden 2? If so then why does it look so cartoony and why doesnt it impress us graphically? The Ninja Gaiden series is awesome but I think Itagaki sometimes talks alot of crap and doesnt back it up. And to the guy who showed the pictures from ninja gaiden sigma vs ninja gaiden 2, im sorry but ninja gaiden sigma looks alot more impressive graphically then what we have seen in ninja gaiden 2. I think its early and ninja gaiden 2 will look much better when it is done, but will it be able to run in 1080p, 60fps, and have self shadowing all at the same time like they did in ninja gaiden sigma? This game will be awesome but im still dissappointed in the graphics. Hope it looks tons better then it does now because heavenly sword graphically makes this game look like garbage.
EXACTLY...
I'm glad Im not the only one going around without blinders around here.
[QUOTE="proof11102"][QUOTE="-wii60-"][QUOTE="proof11102"][QUOTE="-wii60-"]Oh please cow take ur fanboy troll comments somewhere else, nobody cares what u think and ur opinion isn't a fact.
-wii60-
What...YOU mad?
I'm just poiting out the fact that I'm a sony fan and I had already made the discovery that the graphics were not the same by doing a comparison with my eyes...before you made this thread.
I really don't care how you feel about it. I've seen you say Killzone 2 looks terrible, so that pretty much put you up there with the biggest fanboy trolls on this board.
I know it's a whole bunch of you insecure xbox fans out there who feel the need to bash that game to no end, but does that make it any better?
Oh and again, you'd better look around buddy. You're in SYSTEM WARS. If you want to make Pro xbox posts that aren't bashed or rediculed you'd better head over to the official xbox 360 fourm. I see you come in and bash almost every Pro PS3 thread ever made, you have no room to come in and b**** when someone else posts theirs.
:shock: it's a fact that right now visually NG2 on xbox360 looks like a more cartoony version of whatis a more realistic looking game in it's predicessor (NGS)on the PS3.
Or can you not tell from the screen shots from each gamein this thread? :lol: lol emmings are really blind. And they say killzone 2 looks bad? I think NG2 will be awsome, but visually, right now this game aint breacking any barriers.
[QUOTE="proof11102"][QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]:.Kritical_Strike
HS was a FLOP, and the acting was mediocre :|
Yeah about a ton of people sure aren't going to agree with you. (And you can't act in a video game. YOu can only VOICE act to animations.) - This arguement was owned. (but the other arugment still stands. :D
THey are one of (if not) the best out there right now.
:shock: it's a fact that right now visually NG2 on xbox360 looks like a more cartoony version of whatis a more realistic looking game in it's predicessor (NGS)on the PS3.
Or can you not tell from the screen shots from each gamein this thread? :lol: lol emmings are really blind. And they say killzone 2 looks bad? I think NG2 will be awsome, but visually, right now this game aint breacking any barriers.
proof11102
[QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"][QUOTE="proof11102"][QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]:.Cedmln
HS was a FLOP, and the acting was mediocre :|
Yeah about a ton of people sure aren't going to agree with you. And you can't act in a video game. YOu can only VOICE act to animations.
THey are one of (if not) the best out there right now.
If you had watched behind the scenes stuff from HS development you'd see that they do act(voice recording while fullbody+facial mocap is recorded)[QUOTE="proof11102"]:shock: it's a fact that right now visually NG2 on xbox360 looks like a more cartoony version of whatis a more realistic looking game in it's predicessor (NGS)on the PS3.
Or can you not tell from the screen shots from each gamein this thread? :lol: lol emmings are really blind. And they say killzone 2 looks bad? I think NG2 will be awsome, but visually, right now this game aint breacking any barriers.
-wii60-
:| Those are real shots of Sigma. They just removed the hub. Here ya go..
and since you mention that the PS3 screens are Bullshots It must mean you think they are too good are you're making excuses for why your presious xbox360 isn't doing the same.In any case it just goes to serve you xbox mainacs right for trying to talk **** about Sigmas graphics in the first place...:lol: keep hoping for those upgrades. Itagaki's Idea for making new and better graphicsusing thexbox360 hardware= making a cartoony game engine with extra plasticy charicters!
[QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"][QUOTE="proof11102"][QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]:.Cedmln
HS was a FLOP, and the acting was mediocre :|
Yeah about a ton of people sure aren't going to agree with you. And you can't act in a video game. YOu can only VOICE act to animations.
THey are one of (if not) the best out there right now.
actually, you can... facial expressions are being captured and translated in to digital information. look at the "behind the scenes" videos.
And the flop stuff needs to quit... so childish.. it's a great game. all reporters agree on that.
[QUOTE="Cedmln"][QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"][QUOTE="proof11102"][QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]:.furtherfan
actually, you can... facial expressions are being captured and translated in to digital information.
Well then one of the programmers must have seriously screwed up one of Kai's animation timing because I saw a couple of parts where her animations were not moving to her voice at the right time.
[QUOTE="furtherfan"][QUOTE="Cedmln"][QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"][QUOTE="proof11102"][QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]:.Cedmln
actually, you can... facial expressions are being captured and translated in to digital information.
Well then one of the programmers must have seriously screwed up one of Kai's animation timing because I saw a couple of parts where her animations were not moving to her voice at the right time.
yeah, that part is still not very good. can't stand her by the way. f'd up weirdo :-P
[QUOTE="-wii60-"][QUOTE="proof11102"]:shock: it's a fact that right now visually NG2 on xbox360 looks like a more cartoony version of whatis a more realistic looking game in it's predicessor (NGS)on the PS3.
Or can you not tell from the screen shots from each gamein this thread? :lol: lol emmings are really blind. And they say killzone 2 looks bad? I think NG2 will be awsome, but visually, right now this game aint breacking any barriers.
proof11102
:| Those are real shots of Sigma. They just removed the hub. Here ya go..
and since you mention that the PS3 screens are Bullshots It must mean you think they are too good are you're making excuses for why your presious xbox360 isn't doing the same.In any case it just goes to serve you xbox mainacs right for trying to talk **** about Sigmas graphics in the first place...:lol: keep hoping for those upgrades. Itagaki's Idea for making new and better graphicsusing thexbox360 hardware= making a cartoony game engine with extra plasticy charicters!
It tears you up inside knowing you can't get to play this on the PS3 doesn't it? I bet it does....
[QUOTE="proof11102"][QUOTE="-wii60-"][QUOTE="proof11102"]:shock: it's a fact that right now visually NG2 on xbox360 looks like a more cartoony version of whatis a more realistic looking game in it's predicessor (NGS)on the PS3.
Or can you not tell from the screen shots from each gamein this thread? :lol: lol emmings are really blind. And they say killzone 2 looks bad? I think NG2 will be awsome, but visually, right now this game aint breacking any barriers.
turaaggeli
:| Those are real shots of Sigma. They just removed the hub. Here ya go..
and since you mention that the PS3 screens are Bullshots It must mean you think they are too good are you're making excuses for why your presious xbox360 isn't doing the same.In any case it just goes to serve you xbox mainacs right for trying to talk **** about Sigmas graphics in the first place...:lol: keep hoping for those upgrades. Itagaki's Idea for making new and better graphicsusing thexbox360 hardware= making a cartoony game engine with extra plasticy charicters!
It tears you up inside knowing you can't get to play this on the PS3 doesn't it? I bet it does....
Ya know what? I actually do.
I'd really like to see what they could do with the PS3 hardware now that've finally used it. Itagaki obviously couldn't use the PS3 engine for xbox360 (didn't want to look like he wasborrowing someone elses work...my guess, but it could also be techincal diffrences also) so he changed it and built an engine from the ground up for the xbox360.
But after 2 projects and over 2 years of experience working with the xbox360 hardware, I think we are were expecting something...more...out of NG2 with xbox360. At least in comparison to what lemmings said was a last gen engine with NGS..
I give you NG2 on xbox360
Looks Looks like Crackdown...
:P and about playing the game, I'm not worried I'll play it a few years down the line once xbox360's problems have gone away the both xbox360 and NG2 have bargan bin counter prices. I will play the game, but the graphics aren't what lemmings said they'd be.
Well u just selfowned ur self i don't see that much different between the two games,BOTH LOOK GREAT.
-wii60-
lol, are you kidding?
Me selfowned? I think you might be the one doing that with the pictures you posted. Sigma looks far more realistic. If I had to compaire NG2 graphically to any game I've seen right now, I'd say it looks alotcloser to Crackdown by comparison.
[QUOTE="proof11102"]but the graphics aren't what lemmings said they'd be.
furtherfan
so it's finished?
Is Killzone 2?
In System Wars we judge by what's released regardless of wheather the game is finished or not and hype or criticize basedon what we have, or are we changing the rules now because it doesn't look good for a game that's on the xbox360?
[QUOTE="-wii60-"]Well u just selfowned ur self i don't see that much different between the two games,BOTH LOOK GREAT.
proof11102
lol, are you kidding?
Me selfowned? I think you might be the one doing that with the pictures you posted. Sigma looks far more realistic. If I had to compaire NG2 graphicallyto any gameI've seen right now, I'd say it looksdisterbingly close to Crackdownby comparison.
[QUOTE="furtherfan"][QUOTE="proof11102"]but the graphics aren't what lemmings said they'd be.
proof11102
so it's finished?
Is Killzone 2?
In System Wars we judge by what's released regardless of wheather the game is finished or not and hype or criticize basedon what we have, or are we changing the rules now because it doesn't look good for a game that's on the xbox360?
Of course it's a new engine...I already spoke on this yesterday...
[QUOTE="Harden_hawk"][QUOTE="ForTheNguyen"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]
[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]cows are on damage control.....the game doesn't even come out for a year....they act like it's finished and releasing next weekproof11102
Sort of like when lemmings say Killzone 2 looks bad?
exactly, lemmings am sad.
stop saying ng2 looks better than ngs bc it doesn't. of course ng2 has a long ways to go
It looks alot better.
NO...
**Edit**
Ryu on xbox360 looks like an over-plasticy cartoon action figure, on PS3 he looks like a real man...just like all the other games on these systems are starting to show the real diffrence in their power.
Xbox360 = good at creating over plasticy and unrealistic worlds, people and basically everything else
PS3 = good at creating realistic People environments and worlds with advanced lighting physics and animation
After further insection, I've come to the conclusion that NG2 infact dose NOT look like NGS at all.
NG2 on the xbox360 has a way more cartoony look than NGS. NGS on PS3 has a way more realistic look and atpmoshere than what's being shown on xbox360 for NG2. LOOK FOR YOUR SELF!
I know they looked diffrent befor but I just couldn't put my finger on it. But now, after my last post, it's clear to me!
proof11102
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25919193&page=3
Great job einstein. Judging a game by some leaked pictures. NG2 will look similar to NGS when it's done.
[QUOTE="proof11102"][QUOTE="furtherfan"][QUOTE="proof11102"]but the graphics aren't what lemmings said they'd be.
-wii60-
so it's finished?
Is Killzone 2?
In System Wars we judge by what's released regardless of wheather the game is finished or not and hype or criticize basedon what we have, or are we changing the rules now because it doesn't look good for a game that's on the xbox360?
Oh please ...those pics were leaked.
[QUOTE="proof11102"][QUOTE="furtherfan"][QUOTE="proof11102"]but the graphics aren't what lemmings said they'd be.
-wii60-
so it's finished?
Is Killzone 2?
In System Wars we judge by what's released regardless of wheather the game is finished or not and hype or criticize basedon what we have, or are we changing the rules now because it doesn't look good for a game that's on the xbox360?
:| None
The only thing I've bashed about Halo 3 is it's animations. Same for Mass Effect. Still shots of those games look pretty...in motion, not so pretty.
Game looks awesome.. I garrantee 9.2 or better with this game. Sorry Sony boys, yet another game MS went out and got for it's users.. LOL how many has Sony went out and got? A big 0... All the 3rd party developers are starting to migrate over to the 360.
Cutting off body parts is gonna be cool:twisted:Flied_Lice
yep. and inside organs... didn't have that in NGS..
[QUOTE="furtherfan"][QUOTE="proof11102"]but the graphics aren't what lemmings said they'd be.
proof11102
so it's finished?
Is Killzone 2?
In System Wars we judge by what's released regardless of wheather the game is finished or not and hype or criticize basedon what we have, or are we changing the rules now because it doesn't look good for a game that's on the xbox360?
you act like these are finalised graphics. and i didn't say a word about Killzone2. you are a fanboy, you are jealous and you are pathetic.
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