[QUOTE="Mordred19"] an asthetic nitpick like that is not criteria for rating a game. as a gameplay element, it only needs to work, to not be broken, and to serve a practical purpose to the player. squeezing an enemies junk has the same result as choking him or throwing him to the ground: *player knocks enemy unconcious* end of story. it doens't matter how it's done, as long as it serves it's function in the end.
MGS4 wouldn't be paying homage to the previous games through this, this is just the way MGS has been. crazy, weird stuff. but people need to step back and objectively look at how the gameplay works and achieves its end, and judge that. personal objections to the asthetic means are a different category.
if the crotch-grabbing was twitchy, glitchy, unresponsive, or served no practical purpose, that would be means to mark it negatively. if it is just a simple button press that works within the standards of polish to this game, there shouldn't be anything wrong with it.
adult magazines serve a practical purpose, to freeze enemies in place for a period of time. it's not much different than "freeze attacks" in other games that temporarly immobilize enemies. same function, but with a different face on it. that's all.
a dumspter would offer concealment in a real battlefield. if the AI wasn't responsive when you saw it, there is good reason for that. it was a highly scripted demo, that was supposed to go exactly as planned. they can't afford to be spotted too soon while demonstrating all the stealth aspects to an audience. that first gameplay video is over six months old now, and subsequent videos have shown better AI more in line with today's standards. they are aware of their enviorment, and can spot snake if he isn't particularly well-hidden.
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in an ideal world of course you're right - but i was being a bit of a realist. look at reviews on major sites and see what makes or breaks some games, it's ridiculous.
i was also speaking in generalities about the zany gameplay - i know the move is obviously a substitute for any other 'subdue' or 'knock-out' function - my criticism was more on the way it's presented, not how it functions. i also fully realize all mgs games have been wacky and out there in many respects - and i acknowledged that in my post. i just feel the game will be more of the same to say it bluntly, and less innovation. given the cell / ps3 + kojima together the expectations are through the roof... my point is i don't think they'll live up to it (i could be wrong) and i feel it will be because he was too focussed on these weird aspects instead of trying to bring the game up a notch, bring something new and exciting to it.
so in short - i don't think the reality will fall short of expectations because kojima would rather do the same things again (semi low brow gimmick moves - i say gimmick because they are just basically different animations for functions in many other games .. as you said) instead of trying to really push the possibilities with the new technology... i mean it's going to be depressing if that 50gig bluray is in fact just filled with HD Audio, and not due to the game being some massive sweeping epic that will blow everyones socks off (like it should be).
and please don't try to explain away the gameplay to me - they're easily countered, and one could argue Kojima made it that way because Kojima made it that way :P i mean he is a fan of slapstick, and MGS has always been zany. no sense in trying to rationalize it - it still seems hokey to me :) that's not necessarily a bad thing.
what gives you the idea he won't push boundries in this game? what makes you think it's just more of the same? (just asking) we've barely seen any of the game. we've only seen one level of the game, which could even be a red herring in itself.
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