Im Convinced.. Crysis COULD Work on PS3 and look as good

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#51 marklarmer
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[QUOTE="retrib"]

[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"]Does 256 mb RAM mean anything to you?hazuki87

you're such a fanboy, shoo

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Hes not being a fanboy buddy. 256 MB RAM is not nearly enough.Ā 

yeah, its not even enough to run vista.

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[QUOTE="BrutonNYC"]http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=19627&type=mov&pl=gameĀ  Mix Heavenly sword's object physics with Uncharteds lush and rich enviroments and you have Crysis level graphics and physics. Watch that heavenly sword video and a couple minutes into it look how fluid and smooth the graphics of the barrels and tables are.Ā After seeing these PS3 titles in action, there is no doubt that in a few years PS3 will be able to do Crysis graphics, hell maybe even betterAvIdGaMeR444

But of course not Xbox 360.Ā  Never. :|

Nobody said 360 could...

All consoles coudn't.

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#53 ironcreed
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Man, I love the PS3 as well, and think that Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, and LairĀ are going to beĀ absolutely gorgeous games graphically, and the best that we have seen thus far this gen....on consoles. And even though these games still look great when putĀ beside Crysis, Crysis is still justĀ on another level. It is as close to photo realistic as any game has ever gotten so far. That DX10 card is just flat out more advanced....period.

Even still though, I understand what you mean, as I definitely think that games like Uncharted, and Heavenly Sword can definitelyĀ hold their own while still looking great next to Crysis, but Crysis is just on another level. But even though Crysis is on another level, anyone who says that it makes games like Uncharted, and Heavenly Sword look "bad" are just swallowed up by the hype. As nothing about these games look bad to begin with, so no other game can make them look bad because they simplyĀ look great to begin with.

Regardless, we can all see that the PS3 is capable of graphics that are PLENTY good enough, so I am not too concerned about not getting to playĀ Crysis maxed out. Because I do not particularly like the idea of having to shell out 1300.00 to be able to playĀ ONE GAMEĀ the way it is meant to be played anyway. EspeciallyĀ when I can play plenty of killer games that can definitely at leastĀ hold their own against Crysis on my PS3 AND my 360.

I will be willing to bet that lateĀ next year some time, the PS3 and 360 get a ported VERSION that will be downgraded a bit, but still end up great. Besides that though,Ā we already know that the Crytec engine is currently being used in an as yet un-named game for PS3. With the way that PS3 gamesĀ like Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, and Lair are looking to turn out,Ā I cannot wait to see what that engine can do on the PS3 hardware, I know that much.;) Can you imagine?:shock:Ā 

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#54 Beowulf935
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[QUOTE="mismajor99"][QUOTE="Amigwo"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]One word... SCALE

The scale of Crysis would be impossible for 512MB of System RAM... let alone 256.
Amigwo

Consoles work differently with memory vs pcs so that isnt a big issue unless they have crazy textures going in, the physics i would say could be easily done on the ps3 maybe better than pcs but not to sure on the graphics side, the gpu is pretty much a G70-G71 for the ps3. the min gpu spec for videocard they wanted for alpha testing was a g70, take in to count that alpha testing requires faster system requirements than the final finished product in most cases. Another interestings fact is now adays gpus are limited by the fact that cpus cant keep up so it might be different with the ps3 since it has a powerfull cpu. even the xbox gpu is limited by its cpu.

That's all fine and dandy, but I wouldn't have wasted my time writing that. It's not being developed for any system expect the PC, so the thread is pointless to begin with. BTW, 512mb or ram is still not enough, reguardless of the architecture.

crytek recently hired some folks for the ps3 programming department. lets just hope shall we ;o?

Umm, no. They hired programmers LAST SUMMER for BOTH the PS3 and 360. They did this so they can port their engine and sell it to other companies.
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#55 Hot_Potato
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The detail and scale of the levels in Crysis blow Uncharted out of the water. The gameplay in Uncharted looks kinda lame too.
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#56 DA_B0MB
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Don't become a developer, TC.
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http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=19627&type=mov&pl=game Mix Heavenly sword's object physics with Uncharteds lush and rich enviroments and you have Crysis level graphics and physics. Watch that heavenly sword video and a couple minutes into it look how fluid and smooth the graphics of the barrels and tables are. After seeing these PS3 titles in action, there is no doubt that in a few years PS3 will be able to do Crysis graphics, hell maybe even better BrutonNYC

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Oh my god...are you serious on this!?

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#58 Teuf_
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No way, just no way.Ā  Consoles just can't match PC's in IQ, and the environments are way too dynamic.Ā 
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#59 Pro_wrestler
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It can be done actually. The thing is with PCs they load everything one time at the begining of the game, if your GPU is weak then expect to have mediocre graphics at best. Consoles on the other hand constantly stream data which can allow for bigger worlds using the same storage capacity. This is why you see consoleĀ graphicsĀ that only get better with time withouth an upgrade in hardware. With PC, you always sacrifice something in new games runing on older GPUs. Also with consoles developers don't have to worry if their game can run on a 9800Pro, its guaranteed to work with a console.

[QUOTE="BrutonNYC"]http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=19627&type=mov&pl=gameĀ  Mix Heavenly sword's object physics with Uncharteds lush and rich enviroments and you have Crysis level graphics and physics. Watch that heavenly sword video and a couple minutes into it look how fluid and smooth the graphics of the barrels and tables are.Ā After seeing these PS3 titles in action, there is no doubt that in a few years PS3 will be able to do Crysis graphics, hell maybe even betterAvIdGaMeR444

But of course not Xbox 360.Ā  Never. :|

360 will always pwn in graphics:) But as for animations, thats a different story.

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#60 -KinGz-
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[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"]Does 256 mb RAM mean anything to you?retrib

you're such a fanboy, shoo

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Why he's right, the ps3 is limited to 256 of RAM (video) and 256 ram system, do you homework.Ā 

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#61 The_Ish
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No way, just no way. Consoles just can't match PC's in IQ, and the environments are way too dynamic. Teufelhuhn

...what?

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#62 Infernal246
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No DX10, 256mb ram, and **** online.Ā 

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#63 Teuf_
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]No way, just no way. Consoles just can't match PC's in IQ, and the environments are way too dynamic. The_Ish

...what?

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IQ = Image Quality
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#64 Lilac_Benjie
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Playstation 3 cannot compete with DX10. Dream on cows.
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#65 Pro_wrestler
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Texture memory would'nt be a problem, it can use up to 480MB of its RAM with 32MB reserved for OS. Streaming would'nt be a problem either, The 360s GPU runs at 500Mhz just 75Mhz shy of your $530 GTX. I fail to see how Crysis could'nt be done to some extent on Consoles other than fiting it all on a DVD. IMHO there are some aspects of games on consoles now that look as good or better than some elements in Crysis.

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#66 BioShockOwnz
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Neither Heavenly Sword or Uncharted look as good as Crysis in any way. Also, why buy a PS3 when you can have something that is far superior (PC)?
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#67 Pro_wrestler
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I believe most people in here other than Teufelhuhn could'nt provide a logical reason why Crysis could'nt be done on consoles; They just come in with one-liners and leave "bu bu Crysis couldnt be done on consoles, teh I duno y" :lol:
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#68 Teuf_
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Texture memory would'nt be a problem, it can use up to 480MB of its RAM with 32MB reserved for OS. Streaming would'nt be a problem either, The 360s GPU runs at 500Mhz just 75Mhz shy of your $530 GTX. I fail to see how Crysis could'nt be done to some extent on Consoles other than fiting it all on a DVD. IMHO there are some aspects of games on consoles now that look as good or better than some elements in Crysis.

Pro_wrestler

Uh....first off, you can't use all the RAM for textures. You have to split it between the CPU and GPU meaning you're looking at less than 256 for textures.

Second, Xenos would get annihilated by an 8800 GTX. The GTX has 128 unifed shaders (vs the 48 on the Xenos), three times the memory, and way more bandwidth.

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[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]

Texture memory would'nt be a problem, it can use up to 480MB of its RAM with 32MB reserved for OS. Streaming would'nt be a problem either, The 360s GPU runs at 500Mhz just 75Mhz shy of your $530 GTX. I fail to see how Crysis could'nt be done to some extent on Consoles other than fiting it all on a DVD. IMHO there are some aspects of games on consoles now that look as good or better than some elements in Crysis.

Teufelhuhn

Uh....first off, you can't use all the RAM for textures. You have to split it between the CPU and GPU meaning you're looking at less than 256 for textures.

Second, Xenos would get annihilated by an 8800 GTX. The GTX has 128 unifed shaders (vs the 48 on the Xenos), three times the memory, and way more bandwidth.

Ah you beat me to it.

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#70 Pro_wrestler
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Neither Heavenly Sword or Uncharted look as good as Crysis in any way. Also, why buy a PS3 when you can have something that is far superior (PC)?BioShockOwnz

You asked a question the completely makes your "Far superior" statement subjective. If it was "far superior" then questions like that should'nt be asked, it should already be aĀ known fact.

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#72 Pro_wrestler
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[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]

Texture memory would'nt be a problem, it can use up to 480MB of its RAM with 32MB reserved for OS. Streaming would'nt be a problem either, The 360s GPU runs at 500Mhz just 75Mhz shy of your $530 GTX. I fail to see how Crysis could'nt be done to some extent on Consoles other than fiting it all on a DVD. IMHO there are some aspects of games on consoles now that look as good or better than some elements in Crysis.

Teufelhuhn

Uh....first off, you can't use all the RAM for textures. You have to split it between the CPU and GPU meaning you're looking at less than 256 for textures.

Second, Xenos would get annihilated by an 8800 GTX. The GTX has 128 unifed shaders (vs the 48 on the Xenos), three times the memory, and way more bandwidth.

:lol: Atleast you explained why it could'nt be done as is, It annoys me how people just come it and say stuff without some sort of explaination.

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#73 MGS9150
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neither the graphics or phisics in either of those games come anywhere close to crysis....particularly phisics....where crysis just blows everything out of the water...cobrax75

They come close, they just dont match it.Ā 

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#74 Killfox
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[QUOTE="cobrax75"]neither the graphics or phisics in either of those games come anywhere close to crysis....particularly phisics....where crysis just blows everything out of the water...MGS9150

They come close, they just dont match it.Ā 

I want to see what games come close.

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#75 hongkingkong
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No it can't.
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#76 elementz28
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Right now UNCHARTED IS DAMN HOT and HEVENLY SWORD but crysis still is better..but i do feel the PS3 will somedayĀ  make a game that looks like Crysis graphics and physics and etc..and i cant wait!!
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#77 Killfox
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Right now UNCHARTED IS DAMN HOT and HEVENLY SWORD but crysis still is better..but i do feel the PS3 will somedayĀ  make a game that looks like Crysis graphics and physics and etc..and i cant wait!!elementz28

The key word to your in your ramble is someday. While were getting it hopefully in september.

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#78 astiop
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Whats there even to discuss? Unless the ps3 can magicaly do dx10 (which "newsflash" crysis will use), it can't run crysis. Mabye the dx9 version, but I doubt thats what you meant.
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#79 Amigwo
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Lolz Keeps dreaming Cows.. If youĀ were really a serious graphic whore you should have become a Hermit instead..

Ā Cows are forgetting that Crysis run on DirectX10 which is something PS3 can't do.. And it'll be a b|tch trying toĀ make the game run well on the (pain in the azz/hard to progarm processor) call the CELL lolz..

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game runs fine on directx9, the first pics you saw of crysis were in directx 9. the 360Ā uses directx 9 the ps3 uses nvidia cg which is pretty much close to directx(HLSL)

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http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=19627&type=mov&pl=game Mix Heavenly sword's object physics with Uncharteds lush and rich enviroments and you have Crysis level graphics and physics. Watch that heavenly sword video and a couple minutes into it look how fluid and smooth the graphics of the barrels and tables are. After seeing these PS3 titles in action, there is no doubt that in a few years PS3 will be able to do Crysis ****graphics, hell maybe even better BrutonNYC

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One day you're bashing the PS3 then the next day you're praising it? :?

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[QUOTE="elementz28"]Right now UNCHARTED IS DAMN HOT and HEVENLY SWORD but crysis still is better..but i do feel the PS3 will somedayĀ  make a game that looks like Crysis graphics and physics and etc..and i cant wait!!Killfox

The key word to your in your ramble is someday. While were getting it hopefully in september.

September will be a good month indeed. Crysis, AC, Halo 3 & Bioshock will be playedddd

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#82 Killfox
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[QUOTE="Killfox"]

[QUOTE="elementz28"]Right now UNCHARTED IS DAMN HOT and HEVENLY SWORD but crysis still is better..but i do feel the PS3 will somedayĀ  make a game that looks like Crysis graphics and physics and etc..and i cant wait!!Pro_wrestler

The key word to your in your ramble is someday. While were getting it hopefully in september.

September will be a good month indeed. Crysis, AC, Halo 3 & Bioshock will be playedddd

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So true.

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[QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="Amigwo"][QUOTE="Einhanderkiller"][QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="cobrax75"]

the phisics dont come anywhere near this.

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http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=53584

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and the graphics speak for themselves.

Amigwo

Be wary of quoting Crysis for physics, Crytec haven't exactly had a perfect track record in that area.

What do you mean?

hes basing all his facts on farcry which pretty much was to showcase graphics. gameplay sucked physics sucked. the devs main focus was pushing out the graphics on that engine. but with crysis its different, they are focusing on gameplay,graphics,physics,story.

The gameplay was good but the physics sucked.

Ā have you tried the online aspect of the game?

youre basing Far-Cry's gameplay on the MP? :?

play the campaign (COMPLETELY) before you judge Far-Cry at all

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[QUOTE="retrib"]No way dude, not even close, the Ps3/360 can't handle all that action, physics, and graphics.BrutonNYC

Dude its only been 6 months and already games like Lair and Uncharted are being compared to coming close to crysis level quality.. I said in about 4 years we will see PS3 delivering crysis quality graphics and physics.

Why are they being compared it's obvious that Crysis is graphically a better game.Ā 

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#85 Killfox
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[QUOTE="BrutonNYC"]

[QUOTE="retrib"]No way dude, not even close, the Ps3/360 can't handle all that action, physics, and graphics.Sparky04

Dude its only been 6 months and already games like Lair and Uncharted are being compared to coming close to crysis level quality.. I said in about 4 years we will see PS3 delivering crysis quality graphics and physics.

Why are they being compared it's obvious that Crysis is graphically a better game.Ā 

I dont even know anymore.

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disagreed upon you are
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#87 OGTiago
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Crysis graphics and physics are still better.
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#88 Gamer556
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Neither of those games have comparable graphics or physics to Crysis.
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#89 Xbox360gamer1
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You can't mix those, those are the appealing features because they dev dedicated power to those.
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#90 retrib
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[QUOTE="retrib"]

[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"]Does 256 mb RAM mean anything to you?-KinGz-

you're such a fanboy, shoo

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Why he's right, the ps3 is limited to 256 of RAM (video) and 256 ram system, do you homework.

I know more about the PS3 then you do, son, developers can streamline from each pull of memory, if anything the PS3 is just limited to 204mb of system RAM, and the use of Texture Streaming eliminates some of the problems. Don't flipping tell me the 360 can run crysis, because I can bet my life, it can't. I'm not say the Ps3 can either.Ā 

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#91 Meu2k7
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Sure wait 4 years for Crysis Quality games, we'l just have completely played the crap out of Crysis 1 , Crysis 2 & Crysis 3 more likely getting beigger/better and more balanced/refined! :D
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#92 Thompsonwhore
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I have a PS3 and even I can admit to the fact that it could never play Crysis at the same quality as a PC.
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#93 kage_53
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RSX has lower memory akaĀ only 256MB of memory that can be used for textures, lower bandiwth than the 8800GTS, GTX and the X2900XT etc...Ā The downgrade would be huge.
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#94 hydrophoboe
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Another interestings fact is now adays gpus are limited by the fact that cpus cant keep upAmigwo
That is not a fact. It's conjecture, at best.

They're only limited CURRENTLY because most games haven't utilized dual core processors. When that happens, video cards will need to catch up.

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#95 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="Amigwo"][QUOTE="Einhanderkiller"][QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="cobrax75"]

the phisics dont come anywhere near this.

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http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=53584

Ā 

and the graphics speak for themselves.

deepdreamer256

Be wary of quoting Crysis for physics, Crytec haven't exactly had a perfect track record in that area.

What do you mean?

hes basing all his facts on farcry which pretty much was to showcase graphics. gameplay sucked physics sucked. the devs main focus was pushing out the graphics on that engine. but with crysis its different, they are focusing on gameplay,graphics,physics,story.

The gameplay was good but the physics sucked.

Gameplay was good, as were the graphics, but that's about all you can say for it...I totally did not like playing it.Ā 

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#96 Makari
Member since 2003 • 15250 Posts

[QUOTE="retrib"]No way dude, not even close, the Ps3/360 can't handle all that action, physics, and graphics.BrutonNYC

Dude its only been 6 months and already games like Lair and Uncharted are being compared to coming close to crysis level quality.. I said in about 4 years we will see PS3 delivering crysis quality graphics and physics.

Just a thought they're basically only being compared by people on forums like these who don't actually get to see the games. I noticed that, say, back at E3 last year, when people saw Crysis running in DX9 mode - everybody called it the best looking game by far. This is when all these other games were running right alongside Crysis at the same event, and nobody thought twice about saying Crysis was the most mind-blowingly amazing game at the show.
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#97 retrib
Member since 2007 • 670 Posts

RSX has lower memory aka only 256MB of memory that can be used for textures, lower bandiwth than the 8800GTS, GTX and the X2900XT etc... The downgrade would be huge. kage_53

No game will EVER use all memory for TEXTURES, you fool. You need system memory to run the Engines, and the PS3 has 204 of XDR ram dedicated for that, the RSX can access that same pool with some restrictions, and Texure streaming has eliminated some of RAM limitations.Ā 

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#98 mismajor99
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Texture memory would'nt be a problem, it can use up to 480MB of its RAM with 32MB reserved for OS. Streaming would'nt be a problem either, The 360s GPU runs at 500Mhz just 75Mhz shy of your $530 GTX. I fail to see how Crysis could'nt be done to some extent on Consoles other than fiting it all on a DVD. IMHO there are some aspects of games on consoles now that look as good or better than some elements in Crysis.

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Wow, how's that Koolaid taste?

Get over it. Crytek is a PC dev, and they are showing off their engine with the PC, becuase there is NO ceiling. You must be living in a fantasy world, as you obviously don't have a gaming rig talking like that. I love how people make vast assumptions without ever experiencing something on their own.

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#99 hydrophoboe
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No game will EVER use all memory for TEXTURES, you fool. retrib

I'm almost 100% assured you are wrong, here.

But even if you were right I'm certain that the memory would eventually run out, especially on a game like Crysis. All the really nice-looking games on the 360 and PS3 don't have anywhere near the viewing distance of crysis.
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#100 mismajor99
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I believe most people in here other than Teufelhuhn could'nt provide a logical reason why Crysis could'nt be done on consoles; They just come in with one-liners and leave "bu bu Crysis couldnt be done on consoles, teh I duno y" :lol:Pro_wrestler

The developers said so, they are pushing PC Technology to it's limits, it's commonsense that aged hardware isn't going to be used to show off a game that's marketing an engine. Cryengine 2 will show itself on the 360/PS3, just not Crysis. Ā