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So far my ps3 experience has been horrible. All the games I've waited and waited for (and I'm still waiting......)have turned out to be duds. I had high expectations for Motorstorm, Lair, and Heavenly Sword, but the only games I have that I like are Ninja Gaiden and Dirt.Rachet and Clank looks interesting, but I'm not 13 years old anymore and the only games that look really good to me are GT5, Killzone, and maybe Metal Gear. Those are so far off that by the time they come out,I could pick up a brand new ps3 for the same price I could sell mine for tomorrow.

So I see my ps3 paper weight just sitting here while the Xbox is pulling in AAA game after AAA game. I never expected Halo 3 to be getting 10/10 reviews across the board, same with Bioshock, but now I'm pretty sure that Mass Effect and more will follow. Every game that has been hyped for the 360 has lived up to the hype and then some. The same cannot be said for my ps3, in fact its the exact opposite. The only feature that I like about my ps3 is the excellent movie playback. I fell in love withmy ps3 for this reason and this is why its so hard for me to let go of it, but I want to play some Halo 3 god damnit! The only issue I ever had with Xbox is the RROD's and crap, but it looks like that issue has been taken care of and now, sadly, it is time to trade in my ps3 for an elite. Any others out there feel the same?

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#2 Nintendo_Man
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Wii60 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS3
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#3 evilross
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just get the xbox, it has all the best games now.

if sometime in 2008 the situation changes you can always trade it in.

there is no reason to own a ps3 waiting for games when you could own a 360 and be playing some of the best games to come out in years

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How good is the dvd playback on the 360? Is the drive way too loud and annoying? That is one thing I'm worried about because I will be using the 360 as a movie player.
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#5 klactose
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How good is the dvd playback on the 360? Is the drive way too loud and annoying? That is one thing I'm worried about because I will be using the 360 as a movie player.TheDuffman26
honestly you shouldn't use either one of them for movie playback extensively as it reduces the life of your gaming system, that probably isn't the case with the hd-dvd add-on since it has a totally different drive and laser.
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[QUOTE="TheDuffman26"]How good is the dvd playback on the 360? Is the drive way too loud and annoying? That is one thing I'm worried about because I will be using the 360 as a movie player.klactose
honestly you shouldn't use either one of them for movie playback extensively as it reduces the life of your gaming system, that probably isn't the case with the hd-dvd add-on since it has a totally different drive and laser.

Wow, just wow.

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[QUOTE="klactose"][QUOTE="TheDuffman26"]How good is the dvd playback on the 360? Is the drive way too loud and annoying? That is one thing I'm worried about because I will be using the 360 as a movie player.V4LENT1NE

honestly you shouldn't use either one of them for movie playback extensively as it reduces the life of your gaming system, that probably isn't the case with the hd-dvd add-on since it has a totally different drive and laser.

Wow, just wow.

lol yeah.. umm let me rephrase the question, is the 360 too loud when playing movies? Does it sound like a jet taking off like people say? Does it upscale the picture by any chance? thank you

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[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]

[QUOTE="klactose"][QUOTE="TheDuffman26"]How good is the dvd playback on the 360? Is the drive way too loud and annoying? That is one thing I'm worried about because I will be using the 360 as a movie player.TheDuffman26

honestly you shouldn't use either one of them for movie playback extensively as it reduces the life of your gaming system, that probably isn't the case with the hd-dvd add-on since it has a totally different drive and laser.

Wow, just wow.

lol yeah.. umm let me rephrase the question, is the 360 too loud when playing movies? Does it sound like a jet taking off like people say? Does it upscale the picture by any chance? thank you

dvd playback is aiiight.. no upscaling,.. the drive is pretty loud, but you don't hear it over the movie if you turn ur speakers up a lil bit.. nothin special, but if its ur only option for dvd playback, you could do a lot worse

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#9 TheDuffman26
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^^ k thanks. I'll buy one tomorrow
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sell me your ps3, i need one for metal gear. oh and you fail with that ratchet comment, the game looks good
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1) none of the 360 RROD and disk scratching/crashing problems have been fixed yet, anyone who says differently is speculating or in denial

2) i smell a fakeboy

3) the 360 is loud as hell, like a turbo engine

4) imo 360 library is overrated

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Yes, there is upscaling! But, you need use either VGA or HDMI connections.
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sell me your ps3, i need one for metal gear. oh and you fail with that ratchet comment, the game looks goodMandingo101

If your serious then pm me.

And it does upscale? I do have an HDTV with HDMi so thats awesome!

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#14 Jhung207
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sell me your ps3, i need one for metal gear. oh and you fail with that ratchet comment, the game looks goodMandingo101

I'll buy a ps3 if its under $200 because that's how much it should be worth.

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[QUOTE="Mandingo101"]sell me your ps3, i need one for metal gear. oh and you fail with that ratchet comment, the game looks goodTheDuffman26

If your serious then pm me.

And it does upscale? I do have an HDTV with HDMi so thats awesome!

how much are you selling it for.
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Don't ever trade in its the worst option you can take.
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1) none of the 360 RROD and disk scratching/crashing problems have been fixed yet, anyone who says differently is speculating or in denial

2) i smell a fakeboy

3) the 360 is loud as hell, like a turbo engine

4) imo 360 library is overrated

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I'll give you props cause your sig(s) is cool but your opinions are pure cow cr**.

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#18 TheDuffman26
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[QUOTE="TheDuffman26"]

[QUOTE="Mandingo101"]sell me your ps3, i need one for metal gear. oh and you fail with that ratchet comment, the game looks goodMandingo101

If your serious then pm me.

And it does upscale? I do have an HDTV with HDMi so thats awesome!

how much are you selling it for.

I just pm'd you.

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[QUOTE="Mandingo101"][QUOTE="TheDuffman26"]

[QUOTE="Mandingo101"]sell me your ps3, i need one for metal gear. oh and you fail with that ratchet comment, the game looks goodTheDuffman26

If your serious then pm me.

And it does upscale? I do have an HDTV with HDMi so thats awesome!

how much are you selling it for.

I just pm'd you.

hmm, not really games i want besides motorstorm. not what i was thinking. maybe when i get my paycheck i will change my mind depending on how much i get raped on my taxes
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what happens at the end of HS levels? Whats the Main titlescreen look like?
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#22 TheDuffman26
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[QUOTE="TheDuffman26"][QUOTE="Mandingo101"][QUOTE="TheDuffman26"]

[QUOTE="Mandingo101"]sell me your ps3, i need one for metal gear. oh and you fail with that ratchet comment, the game looks goodMandingo101

If your serious then pm me.

And it does upscale? I do have an HDTV with HDMi so thats awesome!

how much are you selling it for.

I just pm'd you.

hmm, not really games i want besides motorstorm. not what i was thinking. maybe when i get my paycheck i will change my mind depending on how much i get raped on my taxes

K cool. Drop me a message if you change your mind incase I still have it around. Thanks to all who have answered my questions and offered input. Im going to bed

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#23 Always-Honest
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Heavenly Sword and motorstorm are great.

i smell something.... but i could be wrong. if you really HAVE a PS3, be sure to hold on to it.

Buying a 360 makes sense.. it's great for a person who likes... gaming..

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So far my ps3 experience has been horrible. All the games I've waited and waited for (and I'm still waiting......)have turned out to be duds. I had high expectations for Motorstorm, Lair, and Heavenly Sword, but the only games I have that I like are Ninja Gaiden and Dirt.Rachet and Clank looks interesting, but I'm not 13 years old anymore and the only games that look really good to me are GT5, Killzone, and maybe Metal Gear. Those are so far off that by the time they come out,I could pick up a brand new ps3 for the same price I could sell mine for tomorrow.

So I see my ps3 paper weight just sitting here while the Xbox is pulling in AAA game after AAA game. I never expected Halo 3 to be getting 10/10 reviews across the board, same with Bioshock, but now I'm pretty sure that Mass Effect and more will follow. Every game that has been hyped for the 360 has lived up to the hype and then some. The same cannot be said for my ps3, in fact its the exact opposite. The only feature that I like about my ps3 is the excellent movie playback. I fell in love withmy ps3 for this reason and this is why its so hard for me to let go of it, but I want to play some Halo 3 god damnit! The only issue I ever had with Xbox is the RROD's and crap, but it looks like that issue has been taken care of and now, sadly, it is time to trade in my ps3 for an elite. Any others out there feel the same?

TheDuffman26

I fail to see how this is the PS3's fault. You are blaming the system for the lack luster performance of devs. If you look at the PS3's lineup, how many are from established, known great dev's? Not many. Most are from mediocre, or never really heard of devs. The only games made by great devs, like Insomniac, Bethesda, team ninja,ubisoft(vegas) are great AAA games. Now look at the 360 library, it is full of games made bygreat devs. Epic,Bethesda,Capcom,Bioware,Bungie,Rare, infinity ward. Is it a wonder why the 360 library appeals to you more than the PS3's? Especially given this is the 360's 2nd year, and PS3 hasn't even completed a year yet. At the end of this year, PS3 will have started having games from great Devs like Naughtydog,free radical, Epic,polyphony digital,infinity ward. Next year, they will have Capcom,hopefully square,konami,sucker punchetc.. Also, PS3 games are starting to be equal and even surpass the 360 in multiplats. I think that will stay pretty even though.

If you really have a PS3, then you should have known from the start what you were in for. Sony has always been notorious for delayed games. You also knew the line ups. I don't see much of a difference from other Sony launches. You must be new to gaming or something. You may regret getting rid of the PS3.

I would say get a 360 IN ADDITION to the PS3. Both have aslew ofgreat exclusives coming that you don't want to miss.

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#25 daveg1
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just to add to this...the 360 does upscale dvd's over hdmi and vga..since your getting an elite you will be fine...
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#26 leonhead
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You can still enjoy ratchet and clank even though you're not 13. Great game lol, but none the less ill also be picking up a 360 end of week :)
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yeah! sexy time!
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I got both forget wii60 its PS360 for me, as of now since it's been under a year for the Playstation i knew myself what was going on with the system and i still find that it;s a good system 2008 will be a better year for it right now it's all 360!!!
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Xbox 360 and Xbox LIVE Momentum Facts 'n Stats

Leadership: Xbox 360 and Xbox LIVE are leading the charge into the future of gaming and entertainment, bringing the best games, an active community and a growing catalogue of high definition entertainment to all members of the household.

* More than 11.6 million Xbox 360 consoles have sold across the 37 countries where it is currently available. Xbox LIVE is currently available in 25 countries across the globe.

· According to U.S. NPD data, gamers have bought more software for the Xbox 360 (24.3 million units), than software for PS3 and Wii combined (19.8 million units).

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1. Halo 2

2. Gears of War

3. Hexic HD

4. Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas

5. Call of Duty 3

6. Call of Duty 2

7. Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 3

8. Elder Scrolls: Oblivion

9. Crackdown

10. PGR3

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11. Aegis Wing

12. Uno

13. Texas Hold 'em

14. Geometry Wars Retro Evolved

15. Bankshot Billiards 2

16. Street Fighter 'II Hyper Fighting

17. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1989 ****c Arcade

18. Worms

19. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night

20. Contra

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1. Crackdown

2. Lost Planet E3 2006

3. Dead Rising

4. BioShock

5. Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas

6. Forza Motorsport 2

7. Sonic the Hedgehog

8. Saints Row

9. Superman Returns

10. Colin McRae: DIRT

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[QUOTE="TheDuffman26"]

So far my ps3 experience has been horrible. All the games I've waited and waited for (and I'm still waiting......)have turned out to be duds. I had high expectations for Motorstorm, Lair, and Heavenly Sword, but the only games I have that I like are Ninja Gaiden and Dirt.Rachet and Clank looks interesting, but I'm not 13 years old anymore and the only games that look really good to me are GT5, Killzone, and maybe Metal Gear. Those are so far off that by the time they come out,I could pick up a brand new ps3 for the same price I could sell mine for tomorrow.

So I see my ps3 paper weight just sitting here while the Xbox is pulling in AAA game after AAA game. I never expected Halo 3 to be getting 10/10 reviews across the board, same with Bioshock, but now I'm pretty sure that Mass Effect and more will follow. Every game that has been hyped for the 360 has lived up to the hype and then some. The same cannot be said for my ps3, in fact its the exact opposite. The only feature that I like about my ps3 is the excellent movie playback. I fell in love withmy ps3 for this reason and this is why its so hard for me to let go of it, but I want to play some Halo 3 god damnit! The only issue I ever had with Xbox is the RROD's and crap, but it looks like that issue has been taken care of and now, sadly, it is time to trade in my ps3 for an elite. Any others out there feel the same?

mazdero

I fail to see how this is the PS3's fault. You are blaming the system for the lack luster performance of devs. If you look at the PS3's lineup, how many are from established, known great dev's? Not many. Most are from mediocre, or never really heard of devs. The only games made by great devs, like Insomniac, Bethesda, team ninja,ubisoft(vegas) are great AAA games. Now look at the 360 library, it is full of games made bygreat devs. Epic,Bethesda,Capcom,Bioware,Bungie,Rare, infinity ward. Is it a wonder why the 360 library appeals to you more than the PS3's? Especially given this is the 360's 2nd year, and PS3 hasn't even completed a year yet. At the end of this year, PS3 will have started having games from great Devs like Naughtydog,free radical, Epic,polyphony digital,infinity ward. Next year, they will have Capcom,hopefully square,konami,sucker punchetc.. Also, PS3 games are starting to be equal and even surpass the 360 in multiplats. I think that will stay pretty even though.

If you really have a PS3, then you should have known from the start what you were in for. Sony has always been notorious for delayed games. You also knew the line ups. I don't see much of a difference from other Sony launches. You must be new to gaming or something. You may regret getting rid of the PS3.

I would say get a 360 IN ADDITION to the PS3. Both have aslew ofgreat exclusives coming that you don't want to miss.

It's not the PS3's fault... It's Sony's problem for not going mainstream, (like MS & Nintendo)by choosing to go with the Cell instead of a General purpose, or multi-core processor, that's why crazy Ken stepped down as head of Sony!
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#33 stereoXhype
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LMFAO best thing ive read in the boards I mean you won't buy a 360 because Ps3 has some good games but 360 ALREADY HAS GOOD GAMES (better actually) and if the Ps3 DID have good games they'l be coming in at like 2008 but I think it's 9? and hell Ps3 cant beat 360 bec. THEY GET BETTER GAMES...AGAIN obviously better.....

have doubts? type this inthe Gamespot search engine

Xbox 360 VS Ps3 Graphics Resolution or something like that it made me laugh AT THE PS3 WAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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It is better to have both.

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#38 mazdero
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[QUOTE="mazdero"][QUOTE="TheDuffman26"]

So far my ps3 experience has been horrible. All the games I've waited and waited for (and I'm still waiting......)have turned out to be duds. I had high expectations for Motorstorm, Lair, and Heavenly Sword, but the only games I have that I like are Ninja Gaiden and Dirt.Rachet and Clank looks interesting, but I'm not 13 years old anymore and the only games that look really good to me are GT5, Killzone, and maybe Metal Gear. Those are so far off that by the time they come out,I could pick up a brand new ps3 for the same price I could sell mine for tomorrow.

So I see my ps3 paper weight just sitting here while the Xbox is pulling in AAA game after AAA game. I never expected Halo 3 to be getting 10/10 reviews across the board, same with Bioshock, but now I'm pretty sure that Mass Effect and more will follow. Every game that has been hyped for the 360 has lived up to the hype and then some. The same cannot be said for my ps3, in fact its the exact opposite. The only feature that I like about my ps3 is the excellent movie playback. I fell in love withmy ps3 for this reason and this is why its so hard for me to let go of it, but I want to play some Halo 3 god damnit! The only issue I ever had with Xbox is the RROD's and crap, but it looks like that issue has been taken care of and now, sadly, it is time to trade in my ps3 for an elite. Any others out there feel the same?

AncientDozer

I fail to see how this is the PS3's fault. You are blaming the system for the lack luster performance of devs. If you look at the PS3's lineup, how many are from established, known great dev's? Not many. Most are from mediocre, or never really heard of devs. The only games made by great devs, like Insomniac, Bethesda, team ninja,ubisoft(vegas) are great AAA games. Now look at the 360 library, it is full of games made bygreat devs. Epic,Bethesda,Capcom,Bioware,Bungie,Rare, infinity ward. Is it a wonder why the 360 library appeals to you more than the PS3's? Especially given this is the 360's 2nd year, and PS3 hasn't even completed a year yet. At the end of this year, PS3 will have started having games from great Devs like Naughtydog,free radical, Epic,polyphony digital,infinity ward. Next year, they will have Capcom,hopefully square,konami,sucker punchetc.. Also, PS3 games are starting to be equal and even surpass the 360 in multiplats. I think that will stay pretty even though.

If you really have a PS3, then you should have known from the start what you were in for. Sony has always been notorious for delayed games. You also knew the line ups. I don't see much of a difference from other Sony launches. You must be new to gaming or something. You may regret getting rid of the PS3.

I would say get a 360 IN ADDITION to the PS3. Both have aslew ofgreat exclusives coming that you don't want to miss.

It always interests me when a person steps in to 'clarify' or 'defend' a system and what their justification is.

The blame game is a difficult one but pointing fingers doesn't change the fact that the PS3 lineup is, in this man's opinion, sub par. He doesn't really need to know whose fault it is; all he has to worry about is whether his money was well spent and if he is getting a return in this investment.

At presently he is not. And like myself, he doesn't want to keep being told "wait until later. . wait until later. . there's a silver lining in the distance".

Now. . is it Sony's fault? I don't know. Maybe it's their fault for not securing good companies and negotiating with them. Maybe they decided to take the risk by going to all these no-names and upstarts. . or maybe not. Who knows.

It is not a justification my friend, it is true. Look at the games and who is developing them, then take a look at the scores.

You act as if the TC is innocent in all this. He should have known what to expect. All of the information was out there, if he chose to ignore it, it is his fault. If you have ever bought launch Sony consoles, you would know what to expect. You like he, had your expectations too high, and should have been more real with yourselves. Come on, don't tell me you bought into the whole 4d, 120fps non sense? or that the KZ2 2005 trailer was actual game play?

I am saying it is not the PS3's fault, as in hardware like everybody keeps saying. The hardware is sound, and can produce some awesome things. It is up to the devs to produce. ItIS partly Sony's fault. They tried to do too much at once, and made another incredibly difficult to dev for system. They did not have the dev support from the beginning, but they have been supporting the devs for quite some time now with proper dev kits. If a game is short, or doesn't live up to expectations, the hardware is not to blame, but it is the people utilizing the hardware that are to blame. Also, fanboys over hype things which people buy in to. Then, when it doesn't measure up to the hype, there is huge disappointment, even though the game is still good. There is a huge stigma here that if a game doesn't score 9 or above, it sucks. this is not the case.

I am quite happy with my PS3 because I knew exactly what to expect early on, and I look forward to all te great games coming out soon. I am also quite happy with my 360 up to this point. I'm saying both systems are great, and he shouldn't short himself by getting rid of one for another simply because he didn't research. if he really wants to get rid of it, then more power to him I guess. IMO its a bad decision.

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Tiresome PS3 Fanboys

By Oliver Willis on September 24, 2007 1:16 PM

Matt Haughey bought a PS3 and had serious problems with the system's UI and how it handles various things, and yet the PS3 fanboys descended on his comments to proceed to tell him that what he saw did not in fact happen and that he had yet to see the glory of the PS3. It's like a cult. I've heard those complaints about the PS3 elsewhere and even though my personal experience with the XBox's three red rings of death was trying, my overall experience with the system has been beyond positive - especially the online component.

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How good is the dvd playback on the 360? Is the drive way too loud and annoying? That is one thing I'm worried about because I will be using the 360 as a movie player.TheDuffman26
yeah its loud. there is 3 diffrent dvd drives spread out in all 360s. one is very loud. the other is loud. and the best one is kinda loud. and 360 dont upscale ur old dvds like the ps3 does so they might look like crap on ur hdtv.i think u need to buy the hddvd player add on. and i heard that upscales better then the ps3 does. and ms said there is nothing new in the halo3 editon 360s so what ever is causing the rrod is still in there even in the newest sku. if u were smart u would wait till next year to buy a 360 like i am.
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[QUOTE="TheDuffman26"]How good is the dvd playback on the 360? Is the drive way too loud and annoying? That is one thing I'm worried about because I will be using the 360 as a movie player.munsoned
yeah its loud. there is 3 diffrent dvd drives spread out in all 360s. one is very loud. the other is loud. and the best one is kinda loud. and 360 dont upscale ur old dvds like the ps3 does so they might look like crap on ur hdtv.i think u need to buy the hddvd player add on. and i heard that upscales better then the ps3 does. and ms said there is nothing new in the halo3 editon 360s so what ever is causing the rrod is still in there even in the newest sku. if u were smart u would wait till next year to buy a 360 like i am.

If he buy's now he'll get the 360 with the new GPU cooling system it's really quiet, I own one myself.
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So far my ps3 experience has been horrible. All the games I've waited and waited for (and I'm still waiting......)have turned out to be duds. I had high expectations for Motorstorm, Lair, and Heavenly Sword, but the only games I have that I like are Ninja Gaiden and Dirt.Rachet and Clank looks interesting, but I'm not 13 years old anymore and the only games that look really good to me are GT5, Killzone, and maybe Metal Gear. Those are so far off that by the time they come out,I could pick up a brand new ps3 for the same price I could sell mine for tomorrow.

So I see my ps3 paper weight just sitting here while the Xbox is pulling in AAA game after AAA game. I never expected Halo 3 to be getting 10/10 reviews across the board, same with Bioshock, but now I'm pretty sure that Mass Effect and more will follow. Every game that has been hyped for the 360 has lived up to the hype and then some. The same cannot be said for my ps3, in fact its the exact opposite. The only feature that I like about my ps3 is the excellent movie playback. I fell in love withmy ps3 for this reason and this is why its so hard for me to let go of it, but I want to play some Halo 3 god damnit! The only issue I ever had with Xbox is the RROD's and crap, but it looks like that issue has been taken care of and now, sadly, it is time to trade in my ps3 for an elite. Any others out there feel the same?

TheDuffman26

I'm not a PS3 owner but I feel your pain, many PS3 owners are feeling burned on PS3 so far, it just hasn't delivered on what Sony promised so far. Maybe it will next year. I don't know what to tell you or other PS3 owners, 360 is cool but I think eventually PS3 will have a quality line up of varied games, you either wait around for that, or sell up and get a 360.

Your choice.

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[QUOTE="AncientDozer"][QUOTE="mazdero"][QUOTE="TheDuffman26"]

So far my ps3 experience has been horrible. All the games I've waited and waited for (and I'm still waiting......)have turned out to be duds. I had high expectations for Motorstorm, Lair, and Heavenly Sword, but the only games I have that I like are Ninja Gaiden and Dirt.Rachet and Clank looks interesting, but I'm not 13 years old anymore and the only games that look really good to me are GT5, Killzone, and maybe Metal Gear. Those are so far off that by the time they come out,I could pick up a brand new ps3 for the same price I could sell mine for tomorrow.

So I see my ps3 paper weight just sitting here while the Xbox is pulling in AAA game after AAA game. I never expected Halo 3 to be getting 10/10 reviews across the board, same with Bioshock, but now I'm pretty sure that Mass Effect and more will follow. Every game that has been hyped for the 360 has lived up to the hype and then some. The same cannot be said for my ps3, in fact its the exact opposite. The only feature that I like about my ps3 is the excellent movie playback. I fell in love withmy ps3 for this reason and this is why its so hard for me to let go of it, but I want to play some Halo 3 god damnit! The only issue I ever had with Xbox is the RROD's and crap, but it looks like that issue has been taken care of and now, sadly, it is time to trade in my ps3 for an elite. Any others out there feel the same?

mazdero

I fail to see how this is the PS3's fault. You are blaming the system for the lack luster performance of devs. If you look at the PS3's lineup, how many are from established, known great dev's? Not many. Most are from mediocre, or never really heard of devs. The only games made by great devs, like Insomniac, Bethesda, team ninja,ubisoft(vegas) are great AAA games. Now look at the 360 library, it is full of games made bygreat devs. Epic,Bethesda,Capcom,Bioware,Bungie,Rare, infinity ward. Is it a wonder why the 360 library appeals to you more than the PS3's? Especially given this is the 360's 2nd year, and PS3 hasn't even completed a year yet. At the end of this year, PS3 will have started having games from great Devs like Naughtydog,free radical, Epic,polyphony digital,infinity ward. Next year, they will have Capcom,hopefully square,konami,sucker punchetc.. Also, PS3 games are starting to be equal and even surpass the 360 in multiplats. I think that will stay pretty even though.

If you really have a PS3, then you should have known from the start what you were in for. Sony has always been notorious for delayed games. You also knew the line ups. I don't see much of a difference from other Sony launches. You must be new to gaming or something. You may regret getting rid of the PS3.

I would say get a 360 IN ADDITION to the PS3. Both have aslew ofgreat exclusives coming that you don't want to miss.

It always interests me when a person steps in to 'clarify' or 'defend' a system and what their justification is.

The blame game is a difficult one but pointing fingers doesn't change the fact that the PS3 lineup is, in this man's opinion, sub par. He doesn't really need to know whose fault it is; all he has to worry about is whether his money was well spent and if he is getting a return in this investment.

At presently he is not. And like myself, he doesn't want to keep being told "wait until later. . wait until later. . there's a silver lining in the distance".

Now. . is it Sony's fault? I don't know. Maybe it's their fault for not securing good companies and negotiating with them. Maybe they decided to take the risk by going to all these no-names and upstarts. . or maybe not. Who knows.

It is not a justification my friend, it is true. Look at the games and who is developing them, then take a look at the scores.

You act as if the TC is innocent in all this. He should have known what to expect. All of the information was out there, if he chose to ignore it, it is his fault. If you have ever bought launch Sony consoles, you would know what to expect. You like he, had your expectations too high, and should have been more real with yourselves. Come on, don't tell me you bought into the whole 4d, 120fps non sense? or that the KZ2 2005 trailer was actual game play?

I am saying it is not the PS3's fault, as in hardware like everybody keeps saying. The hardware is sound, and can produce some awesome things. It is up to the devs to produce. ItIS partly Sony's fault. They tried to do too much at once, and made another incredibly difficult to dev for system. They did not have the dev support from the beginning, but they have been supporting the devs for quite some time now with proper dev kits. If a game is short, or doesn't live up to expectations, the hardware is not to blame, but it is the people utilizing the hardware that are to blame. Also, fanboys over hype things which people buy in to. Then, when it doesn't measure up to the hype, there is huge disappointment, even though the game is still good. There is a huge stigma here that if a game doesn't score 9 or above, it sucks. this is not the case.

I am quite happy with my PS3 because I knew exactly what to expect early on, and I look forward to all te great games coming out soon. I am also quite happy with my 360 up to this point. I'm saying both systems are great, and he shouldn't short himself by getting rid of one for another simply because he didn't research. if he really wants to get rid of it, then more power to him I guess. IMO its a bad decision.

Isn't the point, that the PS3 is becoming frustrating to some of their owners?

It's not about blame or he should have known from current information or past consoles, why should he have to worry about that stuff.

When he made the decision to buy it, he listened to the prospects SCE spouted and it sounded good to him and got one.

People did the same with the Xbox 360, but the difference is MS has been bending over backwards to make it happen.

How is it the developers fault SCE decided on a CPU that wasn't even required for gaming and made things difficult. No the blame lies with SCE this time around.

What was fatal about that decision with the CPU, is that they underestimated MS and now the X360 is real competition, developers are feeling less and less forced to go Playstations way and spend the extra time and money making things work on the PS3. So more and more goes to the successful competition.

YES the PS3 is fine hardware but thats not enough is it? Its not enough that it can have awesome potential if time is invested in it, its not actually just designed for games, it is designed for a market with heavy competition. The hardware needed to be easy for development for a fast and flexable market.

If things don't change quick it will be too late, its no good a year or so later when the competition has all the support, games and market.

The original Xbox was easier to develop for but it was just too late, the same with the GC.

The problem is, the PS3 is riding off its successful brand only, but its eroding fast. What good is releasing its most important games which could be system sellers like Final Fantasy and MGS4 outside crucial periods such as this winter.

The reason these times are so important is because this is when these companies get to have an impact on the market and their user-base which affects the long term.

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dvd playback is aiiight.. no upscaling,.. the drive is pretty loud, but you don't hear it over the movie if you turn ur speakers up a lil bit.. nothin special, but if its ur only option for dvd playback, you could do a lot worse

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It does upscale if you use HDMI or VGA.

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[QUOTE="Bandit_Haze"]

dvd playback is aiiight.. no upscaling,.. the drive is pretty loud, but you don't hear it over the movie if you turn ur speakers up a lil bit.. nothin special, but if its ur only option for dvd playback, you could do a lot worse

thinicer

It does upscale if you use HDMI or VGA.

I wouldn't say its that loud when playing a DVD as the drive slows down, but you can still hear the console because of the fans I think, also I have not use HDMI or VGA, I use component. I must say that DVD playback, is not good at all. The reason is because it uses software decoding instead of hardware decoding. As a DVD player I can not personally recommend it, I use a Sony upscaling DVD player for my DVD needs.The X360 just plays DVDs because it can, it wasn't designed for it.

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why not keep both?
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How good is the dvd playback on the 360? Is the drive way too loud and annoying? That is one thing I'm worried about because I will be using the 360 as a movie player.TheDuffman26

My DVD play is fine and from my experience, the noise issue is way overrated. Maybe some units are louder than others, but mine is quieter than a small desk fan. Also, as far as dvd playback wearing the drive, I used my original Xbox for dvd's and never had a problem.

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Sony PlayStation 3 Will Fail - Ex-Atari Chief.

Atari Founder Trashes Sony's PlayStation 3

Category: Multimedia

by Anton Shilov

[ 11/10/2006 | 11:55 AM ]

Nolan Bushnell, the founder of Atari company, said in an interview that Sony's PlayStation 3 would not become a massive success due to price of the console itself as well as issues with game development for the PlayStation 3 gaming machine. The man, who was standing at the beginning of the video game era, also says that games should become simpler to tap larger audiences.

"I think Sony shot themselves in the foot... there is a high probability [they] will fail. The price point is probably unsustainable," Mr. Bushnell said in an interview with Red Herring magazine.

In addition to the high price of the console, which is either $499 for a basic unit or $599 for an advanced version, Mr. Bushnell believes that difficulties with game development for the PlayStation 3 game console will eventually result into lower amount of titles for the PS3 compared to the Xbox 360.

"For years and years Sony has been a very difficult company to deal with from a developer standpoint. They could get away with their arrogance and capriciousness because they had an installed base. They have also historically had horrible software tools. You compare that to the Xbox 360 with really great authoring tools [and] additional revenue streams from Xbox live. A first party developer would be an idiot to develop for Sony first and not the 360. People don't buy hardware, they buy software," he said.

When asked about why the PlayStation and the PlayStation 2 game consoles became so popular in the last few years, Mr.Bushnellsaid it was just a coincidence and no more than 300 thousand of users would adopt the PlayStation 3 in the U.S.

"It wasn't anything brilliant that they did. With the PS and PS2 it was timing. They had the right pricing at the right time [and were] almost the accidental winner. It would not surprise me if a year from now they'll be struggling to sell 1 million units. [Factoring in the PS3's price], I think in the U.S. the number of early adopters you have is actually around 300 000," Mr. Bushnell said.

The main problem of today's games, believes ex-Atari chief is complexity of gaming, loads of violence amid some other issues. Nevertheless, he did not point out how many games does a casual gamer and hardcore acquire per year in well-developed countries.

"There was no real venue for social games. Games got violent in the mid 1980s... that lost women. Then they got long-form and complex. That lost the casual gamer," he said.

Sony PlayStation 3 is scheduled to debut on the 11th of November in Japan and on the 17th in the U.S. European debut of the gaming machine has been delayed to March, 2007.

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Sep.24 8:50 PM ET 13 hours ago The Halo Effect Posted By:Lee Brodie Topics:Stock Market | Stock Picks Companies:Microsoft Corp

On Tuesday Microsoft (MSFT) will release the highly anticipated Halo 3 in what's predicted to be the biggest opening for an entertainment product ever. The software giant hopes Halo 3 will reverse 6 years of losses in its video game business. In Face 2 Face, hear from a video game expert who's among the very few to already have played this game.

Aaron Martinez joins the panel for this conversation. Not only is Aaron an avid video gamer, he also is the Halo 3 expert for the popular video game blog GamersBlock.net. Aaron has been covering the Halo 3 story since the announcement of its release and managed to get a sneak peak and play the game.

You've played the game. What do you think?

This game is getting a ridiculous amount of hype, says Martinez. And it deserves the praise it's getting. It takes everything that was great about the last two and improves upon that. If there's anything that can help Microsoft turn the corner in the video game business it's Halo 3, says Martinez.

How come?

The controls are so well set up you don't have to be a first person shooter fan to get this game.You can sit down at the controls and have fun immediately. And there's enough depth to it, that it's being used on the pro-circuit. It's had over 1 million pre-orders which speaks to how huge this game will be.

What's the trade?

Pete Najarian tell the panel Microsoft (MSFT) is a buy.

Jeff Macke says other plays are Gamestop (GME) and Activision (ATVI). He also recommends selling Sony (SNE) as a console maker, because he feels Halo 3 will be the final nail in that coffin.

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