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it depends on the game engine too, its not all about fps.
you can have a 30fps game looking much than the 60fps game.
Ok i want examples. Name me a game that runs at 60 FPS and a game that runs 30 FPS and let me compare (console games only)it depends on the game engine too, its not all about fps.
you can have a 30fps game looking much than the 60fps game.
GermanShepard06
Im so sick of hearing everyone bad talk Motorstorm because its "only" at 720p 30 FPS. and so?!?! The big question is this, how does that affect me as the gamer?! Infact do me a favor, name me 2 games. Name me one game that runs at 60 FPS and name one game that runs on 30 FPS, I gurantee there wont be a NOTICEABLE difference. Whatever happened to just Great graphics and great framerate?!, since when is 720p and 30 FPS bad?!? Seriously, if someone can name me 2 games that run at 30 FPS and the other game that runs at 60 FPS and if there is a noticeable difference, I will admit ownage!! I mean seriously, Motorstorm is one bad azz game, do you people really sit there and say to yourselves "man this game is only running at 30 FPS and 720p" Because if you do really think that and are so picky, you dont deserve to be a gamerRagingBull25
Those are just fanboys looking for little things so they can claim ownage on other fanboys.
i thought the ps3 would be able to run it @ 120 fps. :(dannyc9I thought gears would run @ 60fps or at least a solid 30fps :lol:
[QUOTE="dannyc9"]i thought the ps3 would be able to run it @ 120 fps. :(HammerofjusticeI thought gears would run @ 60fps or at least a solid 30fps :lol: It was never claimed to, but PS3 games were supposed to be 4D and 120FPS. Oh well.
[QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="dannyc9"]i thought the ps3 would be able to run it @ 120 fps. :(BioShockOwnzI thought gears would run @ 60fps or at least a solid 30fps :lol: It was never claimed to, but PS3 games were supposed to be 4D and 120FPS. Oh well. And Sony never claimed there would actually be games like that. 4D is just a stupid metaphor people blew out of porportion..... did it not come from someone of a different culture?
[QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="dannyc9"]i thought the ps3 would be able to run it @ 120 fps. :(BioShockOwnzI thought gears would run @ 60fps or at least a solid 30fps :lol: It was never claimed to, but PS3 games were supposed to be 4D and 120FPS. Oh well. Says who?
[QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="dannyc9"]i thought the ps3 would be able to run it @ 120 fps. :(BioShockOwnzI thought gears would run @ 60fps or at least a solid 30fps :lol: It was never claimed to, but PS3 games were supposed to be 4D and 120FPS. Oh well. DUDE. I want a link of where you actually heard a sony rep or executive state the PS3 will be in 4D and 120 FPS!
:lol:
[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="dannyc9"]i thought the ps3 would be able to run it @ 120 fps. :(RagingBull25I thought gears would run @ 60fps or at least a solid 30fps :lol: It was never claimed to, but PS3 games were supposed to be 4D and 120FPS. Oh well. DUDE. I want a link of where you actually heard a sony rep or executive state the PS3 will be in 4D and 120 FPS!
forget 120fps, but people actually believed in teh 4d thingy?:lol:
I thought gears would run @ 60fps or at least a solid 30fps :lol: It was never claimed to, but PS3 games were supposed to be 4D and 120FPS. Oh well. DUDE. I want a link of where you actually heard a sony rep or executive state the PS3 will be in 4D and 120 FPS!:lol:[QUOTE="RagingBull25"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="dannyc9"]i thought the ps3 would be able to run it @ 120 fps. :(GermanShepard06
forget 120fps, but people actually believed in teh 4d thingy?:lol:
Gullible Lemmings.[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="dannyc9"]i thought the ps3 would be able to run it @ 120 fps. :(RagingBull25I thought gears would run @ 60fps or at least a solid 30fps :lol: It was never claimed to, but PS3 games were supposed to be 4D and 120FPS. Oh well. DUDE. I want a link of where you actually heard a sony rep or executive state the PS3 will be in 4D and 120 FPS! Kutaragi has labeled the Xbox 360 as "just an Xbox 1.5" and stated that it was "only going after PlayStation 2" [8]. He also has commented that the PlayStation 3 is capable of running games at 120 fps [9] and that the PS3 is 4D and "live" [10]. This refers to the PS3's free online service and advanced graphics. Kutaragi also touted a number of hardware features to tout the PS3's superiority over the Xbox 360 which never actually made it into the final hardware.[11] However, SCE Executive Tetsuhiko Yasuda does not consider Microsoft to be a competitor, and has said that they might consider working on games together [12]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kutaragi
Also if you want more confirmation of this taking place....Google: Ken Kutaragi PS3 120 FPS 4D
Owned!
[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="dannyc9"]i thought the ps3 would be able to run it @ 120 fps. :(RagingBull25I thought gears would run @ 60fps or at least a solid 30fps :lol: It was never claimed to, but PS3 games were supposed to be 4D and 120FPS. Oh well. DUDE. I want a link of where you actually heard a sony rep or executive state the PS3 will be in 4D and 120 FPS! I'm so glad you asked because these always make for great entertainment. Your wish is my command... http://www.joystiq.com/2005/10/28/playstation-3-will-do-120-fps/http://ps3.ign.com/articles/696/696060p1.html
I thought gears would run @ 60fps or at least a solid 30fps :lol: It was never claimed to, but PS3 games were supposed to be 4D and 120FPS. Oh well. DUDE. I want a link of where you actually heard a sony rep or executive state the PS3 will be in 4D and 120 FPS! Kutaragi has labeled the Xbox 360 as "just an Xbox 1.5" and stated that it was "only going after PlayStation 2" [8]. He also has commented that the PlayStation 3 is capable of running games at 120 fps [9] and that the PS3 is 4D and "live" [10]. This refers to the PS3's free online service and advanced graphics. Kutaragi also touted a number of hardware features to tout the PS3's superiority over the Xbox 360 which never actually made it into the final hardware.[11] However, SCE Executive Tetsuhiko Yasuda does not consider Microsoft to be a competitor, and has said that they might consider working on games together [12][QUOTE="RagingBull25"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="dannyc9"]i thought the ps3 would be able to run it @ 120 fps. :(BioShockOwnz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kutaragi
Also if you want more confirmation of this taking place....Google: Ken Kutaragi PS3 120 FPS 4D
Owned!
Linking to wikipedia = self owned anyone can modify information on wikipedia.com SELF OWNED[QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]I thought gears would run @ 60fps or at least a solid 30fps :lol: It was never claimed to, but PS3 games were supposed to be 4D and 120FPS. Oh well. DUDE. I want a link of where you actually heard a sony rep or executive state the PS3 will be in 4D and 120 FPS!:lol:[QUOTE="RagingBull25"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="dannyc9"]i thought the ps3 would be able to run it @ 120 fps. :(Hammerofjustice
forget 120fps, but people actually believed in teh 4d thingy?:lol:
Gullible Lemmings. Wait a second? Lemmings? The Jesus Christ of Cows says something utterly preposterous and somehow the lemmings take the heat? I'm pretty sure that every Xbox fan trashed talked this dude to the moon and back when he made these statements but somehow they're the gullible ones? That sounds like some Krazy Ken talk there.[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]I thought gears would run @ 60fps or at least a solid 30fps :lol: It was never claimed to, but PS3 games were supposed to be 4D and 120FPS. Oh well. DUDE. I want a link of where you actually heard a sony rep or executive state the PS3 will be in 4D and 120 FPS! Kutaragi has labeled the Xbox 360 as "just an Xbox 1.5" and stated that it was "only going after PlayStation 2" [8]. He also has commented that the PlayStation 3 is capable of running games at 120 fps [9] and that the PS3 is 4D and "live" [10]. This refers to the PS3's free online service and advanced graphics. Kutaragi also touted a number of hardware features to tout the PS3's superiority over the Xbox 360 which never actually made it into the final hardware.[11] However, SCE Executive Tetsuhiko Yasuda does not consider Microsoft to be a competitor, and has said that they might consider working on games together [12][QUOTE="RagingBull25"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="dannyc9"]i thought the ps3 would be able to run it @ 120 fps. :(Hammerofjustice
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kutaragi
Also if you want more confirmation of this taking place....Google: Ken Kutaragi PS3 120 FPS 4D
Owned!
Linking to wikipedia = self owned anyone can modify information on wikipedia.com SELF OWNED Not checking legit links above = self owned.[QUOTE="RagingBull25"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="dannyc9"]i thought the ps3 would be able to run it @ 120 fps. :(Bleach_is_basicI thought gears would run @ 60fps or at least a solid 30fps :lol: It was never claimed to, but PS3 games were supposed to be 4D and 120FPS. Oh well. DUDE. I want a link of where you actually heard a sony rep or executive state the PS3 will be in 4D and 120 FPS! I'm so glad you asked because these always make for great entertainment. Your wish is my command... http://www.joystiq.com/2005/10/28/playstation-3-will-do-120-fps/http://ps3.ign.com/articles/696/696060p1.html Haha. I love how Sony fanboys pretend they never said this. Krazy Ken is a blabber mouth.
Thanks for the ownage! :)
[QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]I thought gears would run @ 60fps or at least a solid 30fps :lol: It was never claimed to, but PS3 games were supposed to be 4D and 120FPS. Oh well. DUDE. I want a link of where you actually heard a sony rep or executive state the PS3 will be in 4D and 120 FPS! Kutaragi has labeled the Xbox 360 as "just an Xbox 1.5" and stated that it was "only going after PlayStation 2" [8]. He also has commented that the PlayStation 3 is capable of running games at 120 fps [9] and that the PS3 is 4D and "live" [10]. This refers to the PS3's free online service and advanced graphics. Kutaragi also touted a number of hardware features to tout the PS3's superiority over the Xbox 360 which never actually made it into the final hardware.[11] However, SCE Executive Tetsuhiko Yasuda does not consider Microsoft to be a competitor, and has said that they might consider working on games together [12][QUOTE="RagingBull25"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="dannyc9"]i thought the ps3 would be able to run it @ 120 fps. :(Bleach_is_basic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kutaragi
Also if you want more confirmation of this taking place....Google: Ken Kutaragi PS3 120 FPS 4D
Owned!
Linking to wikipedia = self owned anyone can modify information on wikipedia.com SELF OWNED Not checking legit links above = self owned. kotaku joystiq and ps3.qj.net are biased for xbox360. The only legit sites are IGN/Gameinformer and sometimes gamespot.[QUOTE="Bleach_is_basic"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]I thought gears would run @ 60fps or at least a solid 30fps :lol: It was never claimed to, but PS3 games were supposed to be 4D and 120FPS. Oh well. DUDE. I want a link of where you actually heard a sony rep or executive state the PS3 will be in 4D and 120 FPS! Kutaragi has labeled the Xbox 360 as "just an Xbox 1.5" and stated that it was "only going after PlayStation 2" [8]. He also has commented that the PlayStation 3 is capable of running games at 120 fps [9] and that the PS3 is 4D and "live" [10]. This refers to the PS3's free online service and advanced graphics. Kutaragi also touted a number of hardware features to tout the PS3's superiority over the Xbox 360 which never actually made it into the final hardware.[11] However, SCE Executive Tetsuhiko Yasuda does not consider Microsoft to be a competitor, and has said that they might consider working on games together [12][QUOTE="RagingBull25"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="dannyc9"]i thought the ps3 would be able to run it @ 120 fps. :(Hammerofjustice
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kutaragi
Also if you want more confirmation of this taking place....Google: Ken Kutaragi PS3 120 FPS 4D
Owned!
Linking to wikipedia = self owned anyone can modify information on wikipedia.com SELF OWNED Not checking legit links above = self owned. kotaku joystiq and ps3.qj.net are biased for xbox360. The only legit sites are IGN/Gameinformer and sometimes gamespot. Ummm he listed IGN. http://ps3.ign.com/articles/696/696060p1.html So I guess you guys word is better then a websites? Haha, hardly. Krazy Ken said it and there is proof all over the net.[QUOTE="Bleach_is_basic"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]I thought gears would run @ 60fps or at least a solid 30fps :lol: It was never claimed to, but PS3 games were supposed to be 4D and 120FPS. Oh well. DUDE. I want a link of where you actually heard a sony rep or executive state the PS3 will be in 4D and 120 FPS! Kutaragi has labeled the Xbox 360 as "just an Xbox 1.5" and stated that it was "only going after PlayStation 2" [8]. He also has commented that the PlayStation 3 is capable of running games at 120 fps [9] and that the PS3 is 4D and "live" [10]. This refers to the PS3's free online service and advanced graphics. Kutaragi also touted a number of hardware features to tout the PS3's superiority over the Xbox 360 which never actually made it into the final hardware.[11] However, SCE Executive Tetsuhiko Yasuda does not consider Microsoft to be a competitor, and has said that they might consider working on games together [12][QUOTE="RagingBull25"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="dannyc9"]i thought the ps3 would be able to run it @ 120 fps. :(Hammerofjustice
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kutaragi
Also if you want more confirmation of this taking place....Google: Ken Kutaragi PS3 120 FPS 4D
Owned!
Linking to wikipedia = self owned anyone can modify information on wikipedia.com SELF OWNED Not checking legit links above = self owned. kotaku joystiq and ps3.qj.net are biased for xbox360. The only legit sites are IGN/Gameinformer and sometimes gamespot. Well that's funny, the second quote was from IGN. What's even funnier is that you can EASILY google both of these for yourself if you're really that interested. I think you just wanted to yell "SELF OWNED" at someone without really trying to figure out what was going on for yourself. Instead you wound up with egg on your face. You know being apathetically uninformed is one of the easiest ways to "own" yourself.[QUOTE="Bleach_is_basic"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]I thought gears would run @ 60fps or at least a solid 30fps :lol: It was never claimed to, but PS3 games were supposed to be 4D and 120FPS. Oh well. DUDE. I want a link of where you actually heard a sony rep or executive state the PS3 will be in 4D and 120 FPS! Kutaragi has labeled the Xbox 360 as "just an Xbox 1.5" and stated that it was "only going after PlayStation 2" [8]. He also has commented that the PlayStation 3 is capable of running games at 120 fps [9] and that the PS3 is 4D and "live" [10]. This refers to the PS3's free online service and advanced graphics. Kutaragi also touted a number of hardware features to tout the PS3's superiority over the Xbox 360 which never actually made it into the final hardware.[11] However, SCE Executive Tetsuhiko Yasuda does not consider Microsoft to be a competitor, and has said that they might consider working on games together [12][QUOTE="RagingBull25"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="dannyc9"]i thought the ps3 would be able to run it @ 120 fps. :(Hammerofjustice
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kutaragi
Also if you want more confirmation of this taking place....Google: Ken Kutaragi PS3 120 FPS 4D
Owned!
Linking to wikipedia = self owned anyone can modify information on wikipedia.com SELF OWNED Not checking legit links above = self owned. kotaku joystiq and ps3.qj.net are biased for xbox360. The only legit sites are IGN/Gameinformer and sometimes gamespot.There is a link to IGN. Here is the one to the'same news on GS
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6136786.html?q=Kuturagi%20120%20FPS
He said it. Now weather anyone in their right mind believed him is a differnt story. But he said it.
Im so sick of hearing everyone bad talk Motorstorm because its "only" at 720p 30 FPS. and so?!?! The big question is this, how does that affect me as the gamer?! Infact do me a favor, name me 2 games. Name me one game that runs at 60 FPS and name one game that runs on 30 FPS, I gurantee there wont be a NOTICEABLE difference. Whatever happened to just Great graphics and great framerate?!, since when is 720p and 30 FPS bad?!? Seriously, if someone can name me 2 games that run at 30 FPS and the other game that runs at 60 FPS and if there is a noticeable difference, I will admit ownage!! I mean seriously, Motorstorm is one bad azz game, do you people really sit there and say to yourselves "man this game is only running at 30 FPS and 720p" Because if you do really think that and are so picky, you dont deserve to be a gamerRagingBull25I guess the point of the story is that it wasn't a big deal until Sony made it that way. They are the ones who said "Next-Gen" didn't start until they said it did. Sh*$, they released their console and we're still waiting. You'd have thought they would have "Next-Gen" loaded and chambered by the time they launched their console huh? 30 FPS wasn't a big deal until Sony came out and said "We'll be doing 120 FPS in 1080p TRUE-HD!!!!!!11111111111" There is a happy ending though and it's this: we can all learn a lesson here. Don't shoot off your mouth with insane, unfounded, out-of-this-world claims if you're actually going to have to get on stage one day. For example I should never say "I could hit more home runs than Barry Bonds" if I actually knew him, or if I worked for ESPN or something.
Linking to wikipedia = self owned anyone can modify information on wikipedia.com SELF OWNEDHammerofjustice
That was a pretty lame attempt at damage control. Everyone knows that those comments were said. It is dumb however for people to believe in 4D though on any level in terms of graphics. But to try and devalue the quality of wikipedia is senseless, just because it is editable by everyone doesn't mean it isn't monitored for quality control. And in fact was found to be equal to Britannica in terms of error per page (Wikipedia averages 4, Britanica avgs 3).
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v438/n7070/full/438900a.html
"The exercise revealed numerous errors in both encyclopaedias, but among 42 entries tested, the difference in accuracy was not particularly great: the average science entry in Wikipedia contained around four inaccuracies; Britannica, about three."
We'll be doing 120 FPS in 1080p TRUE-HD!!!!!!11111111111"Bleach_is_basic
[QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]I thought gears would run @ 60fps or at least a solid 30fps :lol: It was never claimed to, but PS3 games were supposed to be 4D and 120FPS. Oh well. DUDE. I want a link of where you actually heard a sony rep or executive state the PS3 will be in 4D and 120 FPS!:lol:[QUOTE="RagingBull25"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="dannyc9"]i thought the ps3 would be able to run it @ 120 fps. :(Hammerofjustice
forget 120fps, but people actually believed in teh 4d thingy?:lol:
Gullible Lemmings. Teh Irony! The cows are the ones who fell for the Killzone, FNR3, and Gundam CG footage as being in-game. Crazy Ken made this outrageous comments and promises about 4D gaming and 120fps...then all of a sudden, the Lemming are gullible for laughing at him?Im so sick of hearing everyone bad talk Motorstorm because its "only" at 720p 30 FPS. and so?!?! The big question is this, how does that affect me as the gamer?! Infact do me a favor, name me 2 games. Name me one game that runs at 60 FPS and name one game that runs on 30 FPS, I gurantee there wont be a NOTICEABLE difference. Whatever happened to just Great graphics and great framerate?!, since when is 720p and 30 FPS bad?!? Seriously, if someone can name me 2 games that run at 30 FPS and the other game that runs at 60 FPS and if there is a noticeable difference, I will admit ownage!! I mean seriously, Motorstorm is one bad azz game, do you people really sit there and say to yourselves "man this game is only running at 30 FPS and 720p" Because if you do really think that and are so picky, you dont deserve to be a gamerRagingBull25You get a much better sense of speed with a faster frame rate. Ummm, compare F-Zero GX on the Gamecube and some other racing game that runs at 30. Big difference
I still play counter-strike (source) a fair bit on my PC and its hard to play if its at 30FPS. Ive got all the settings turned way down, (keep the resolution at 1280 by 1024) so i can be sure that it never drops below 60FPS. Playing on a 7600GT fyi.
Depends on the game imo. I can run Oblivion on my computer and it looks great and is quite playable even though its running at like 20-25FPS (when im outdoors).
Well im not sure wat the incoherent jabberings of ken have to do with how good a console. As you have all said he is clearly misinformed, 4D ridiculous he clearly does not have any understanding, so it makes me wonder why everyone quotes him. Its like quoting a weapons expert on how to run a tea party. However im definately getting a ps3 because I want the games that are coming out on it.
30 fps, is sufficient 25fps is universally accepted as good enough to view movine images on, heck im sure we all have been watching tv for years!
As a side point i dont understand why so much emphasis is put on graphics? I mean sure its better to have good gfx but it certainly does not 'make' a game, some of the best games ever have awful graphics: Tetris, red alert, wario wear, pheonix wright. All of those games are really enjoyable to play and dont rely on 'good' graphics at all. Personally if there was a really compelling game about a dot with good gameplay id rather play that than, the most beautiful photorealistic game that requires you to press one button over and over again.
just my opinion!
ssjlv4nappa
Hammer, you have been owned so many times on this site that you won't be able to claim "ownage" or "self ownage" on anything until you are well into your 60's. The thread where you claimed in big bold letters that Gears would flop is legendary. Are you blind? Did you conveniently miss the IGN link that was posted? Come on, your comments reek of desperation.
Now, on the subject of 720p 30fps: so now it is good enough for PS3 fans? Surely those specs are not "next gen" enough, after those ridiculous 120fps 1080p promises.
Im so sick of hearing everyone bad talk Motorstorm because its "only" at 720p 30 FPS. and so?!?! The big question is this, how does that affect me as the gamer?! Infact do me a favor, name me 2 games. Name me one game that runs at 60 FPS and name one game that runs on 30 FPS, I gurantee there wont be a NOTICEABLE difference. Whatever happened to just Great graphics and great framerate?!, since when is 720p and 30 FPS bad?!? Seriously, if someone can name me 2 games that run at 30 FPS and the other game that runs at 60 FPS and if there is a noticeable difference, I will admit ownage!! I mean seriously, Motorstorm is one bad azz game, do you people really sit there and say to yourselves "man this game is only running at 30 FPS and 720p" Because if you do really think that and are so picky, you dont deserve to be a gamerRagingBull25
Im so sick of hearing everyone bad talk Motorstorm because its "only" at 720p 30 FPS. and so?!?! The big question is this, how does that affect me as the gamer?! Infact do me a favor, name me 2 games. Name me one game that runs at 60 FPS and name one game that runs on 30 FPS, I gurantee there wont be a NOTICEABLE difference. Whatever happened to just Great graphics and great framerate?!, since when is 720p and 30 FPS bad?!? Seriously, if someone can name me 2 games that run at 30 FPS and the other game that runs at 60 FPS and if there is a noticeable difference, I will admit ownage!! I mean seriously, Motorstorm is one bad azz game, do you people really sit there and say to yourselves "man this game is only running at 30 FPS and 720p" Because if you do really think that and are so picky, you dont deserve to be a gamerRagingBull25
I agree with you in principle, but you are missing one main point. It was Sony that kept making such an issue of 60fps and 1080p. (At one point they even said they would support dual 1080p.Wow now that would have been funny people having to buy two HDMI cables). Remember the Next Gen does not start til they say it does? Well all I know is that some of my regular xbox games can do 720p and 30fps. So of course if Sony says something and makes an issue out of it people are going to call them on it when it is proven to be untrue.
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