Im surprised noone has gotten upset about this part in Black Ops, SPOILER!!!!!!

SPOILER!!!!!

ok, theres a part towards the end when mason grabs someone (forgot the name) and says: YOU TRIED TO GET ME TO KILL THE PRESIDENT

and the guy replies: Tried????

implying that he will kill the president, being JFK

and also at the end there are shots of JFK taking his final ride before being shot and killed, and mason is mysteriously highlighted lurking in the shadows as if HE'S the one who ended up killing JFK

anyone else notice this?

im not upset but it is a sensitive subject; the assassination of the president of the united states, and here you are playing the game as the guy who did it.

It implied that he killed JFK. Why were you upset?mrmusicman247

im not upset about it at all, i meant like you didnt hear anything about it on the news or whatever like....

"a game where you play as a character who kills jfk"

That's actually pretty disrespectful.Jumbo120788

People keep implying that Black Ops has a campaign, is this true? Can someone confirm this? I've been too busy owning on multiplayer to check for myself.Messiahbolical-

haha the campaign is actually really good, and challending if you up the difficulty, and btw NOONE owns as much as me in mp, i go 25-3 , 27-7 pretty much every game

[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]It implied that he killed JFK. Why were you upset?right4dead

im not upset about it at all, i meant like you didnt hear anything about it on the news or whatever like....

"a game where you play as a character who kills jfk"

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]People keep implying that Black Ops has a campaign, is this true? Can someone confirm this? I've been too busy owning on multiplayer to check for myself.right4dead

haha the campaign is actually really good, and challending if you up the difficulty, and btw NOONE owns as much as me in mp, i go 25-3 , 27-7 pretty much every game

[QUOTE="Jumbo120788"]That's actually pretty disrespectful.bobbetybob

Lmao.

As it's been said, you were wrong about what he implied. I don't see how, I thought it was pretty straightforward.

The only thing that upset me about the game was the few sections that had respawning enemies and were extremely annoying (Mission 3 corridors I believe, Khe Sahn and the rooftops if you were an idiot like me an tried to get the dual-wield achievement as well)

SPOILER!!!!!

ok, theres a part towards the end when mason grabs someone (forgot the name) and says: YOU TRIED TO GET ME TO KILL THE PRESIDENT

and the guy replies: Tried????

implying that he will kill the president, being JFK

and also at the end there are shots of JFK taking his final ride before being shot and killed, and mason is mysteriously highlighted lurking in the shadows as if HE'S the one who ended up killing JFK

anyone else notice this?

im not upset but it is a sensitive subject; the assassination of the president of the united states, and here you are playing the game as the guy who did it.

right4dead

If that was to upset a lot of people, then AC2 would have set the world on fire.

Im more upset that people think it's funny to run around with swaztika's as emblems.

I mean thats a symbol for the genocide of an entire peopke and treyarch had the balls to put that kind of thing in.
Really?

I mean listen I don't mind seeing it in the single player game as whatever their portraying is part of history.

But to have people running around with it online there's something wrong.

Im more upset that people think it's funny to run around with swaztika's as emblems.

I mean thats a symbol for the genocide of an entire peopke and treyarch had the balls to put that kind of thing in.
Really?

I mean listen I don't mind seeing it in the game as whatever their portraying is part of history.

But to have people running around with it online there's something wrong.

Animal-Mother

Same here. I saw it for the first time when I was playing yesterday on PSN. I think PSN needs to do what Microsoft is doing and banning those people who use it.

I guess you didn't like Watchmen either then...

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

Im more upset that people think it's funny to run around with swaztika's as emblems.

I mean thats a symbol for the genocide of an entire peopke and treyarch had the balls to put that kind of thing in.
Really?

I mean listen I don't mind seeing it in the game as whatever their portraying is part of history.

But to have people running around with it online there's something wrong.

mrmusicman247

Same here. I saw it for the first time when I was playing yesterday on PSN. I think PSN needs to do what Microsoft is doing and banning those people who use it.

Just like MW2's airport scene, I don't take it seriously. It's a piece of fiction and I understand that. This is the same reason why I can be Christian and enjoy "bad" movies like The Golden Compass. If you take it seriously that's your problem. Granted, some games/movies do go a little too far sometimes but I don't see this as one of the cases.

Im more upset that people think it's funny to run around with swaztika's as emblems.

I mean thats a symbol for the genocide of an entire peopke and treyarch had the balls to put that kind of thing in.
Really?

I mean listen I don't mind seeing it in the single player game as whatever their portraying is part of history.

But to have people running around with it online there's something wrong.

Animal-Mother

And they did not add swastikas as offical emblems i think.

I think one of the missions should have us killing JFK. That would be awsome.

I don't see why anyone would be upset about it, it's just playing off the second gunman theories that have been out there forever.

Im more upset that people think it's funny to run around with swaztika's as emblems.

I mean thats a symbol for the genocide of an entire peopke and treyarch had the balls to put that kind of thing in.
Really?

I mean listen I don't mind seeing it in the single player game as whatever their portraying is part of history.

But to have people running around with it online there's something wrong.

Animal-Mother

Treyarch didn't add it, people created it using different pieces and layers. You can create anything with 12 layers and over what..500 pieces? I've seen people create some really impressive things that you wouldn't think was possible. I'm sure creating a swastika can be done in 5 minutes.

That can't be true because I saw a PSN ID that said "I_no_scoped JFK".Fightingfan

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

Im more upset that people think it's funny to run around with swaztika's as emblems.

I mean thats a symbol for the genocide of an entire peopke and treyarch had the balls to put that kind of thing in.
Really?

I mean listen I don't mind seeing it in the single player game as whatever their portraying is part of history.

But to have people running around with it online there's something wrong.

thespywholied

And they did not add swastikas as offical emblems i think.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

Im more upset that people think it's funny to run around with swaztika's as emblems.

I mean thats a symbol for the genocide of an entire peopke and treyarch had the balls to put that kind of thing in.
Really?

I mean listen I don't mind seeing it in the single player game as whatever their portraying is part of history.

But to have people running around with it online there's something wrong.

King-Espi

Treyarch didn't add it, people created it using different pieces and layers. You can create anything with 12 layers and over what..500 pieces? I've seen people create some really impressive things that you wouldn't think was possible. I'm sure creating a swastika can be done in 5 minutes.

Kennedy = President of the land of the free and home of the brave. Vietnamese/Russians/Cubans = Subhuman scum, amirite?

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

Im more upset that people think it's funny to run around with swaztika's as emblems.

I mean thats a symbol for the genocide of an entire peopke and treyarch had the balls to put that kind of thing in.
Really?

I mean listen I don't mind seeing it in the single player game as whatever their portraying is part of history.

But to have people running around with it online there's something wrong.

thespywholied

And they did not add swastikas as offical emblems i think.

Eh, it was left too ambiguous for Fox News to pick up. I wonder how Cubans felt that the first mission revolved around killing their still alive president.DarthBilf

Free Masons killed JFK, if u think otherwise your just an ignorant ****

iMojo786_PSN

Kennedy = President of the land of the free and home of the brave. Vietnamese/Russians/Cubans = Subhuman scum, amirite?

LordQuorthon

haha, well america did lose the vietnam war, still have beef with cuba, but are friends with russia now, but during the cold war they were enemies and the game takes place during the cold war.

I like "Bullet" from the Misfits, why would that upset me??

As a matter of fact, I'm gonna listen to it right now just for this thread's sake. ;)

SPOILER!!!!!

ok, theres a part towards the end when mason grabs someone (forgot the name) and says: YOU TRIED TO GET ME TO KILL THE PRESIDENT

and the guy replies: Tried????

implying that he will kill the president, being JFK

and also at the end there are shots of JFK taking his final ride before being shot and killed, and mason is mysteriously highlighted lurking in the shadows as if HE'S the one who ended up killing JFK

anyone else notice this?

im not upset but it is a sensitive subject; the assassination of the president of the united states, and here you are playing the game as the guy who did it.

One question arises-- did Mason kill JFK consciously? Or did the brainwashing have complete control, thereby rendering Mason mentally and emotionally blameless?

Isn't it more disgusting how each war game depicts Russians as a group of malicious hate harboring mad men intent on destroying the world.

Isn't it more disgusting how each war game depicts Russians as a group of malicious hate harboring mad men intent on destroying the world.

tutt3r

[QUOTE="tutt3r"]

Isn't it more disgusting how each war game depicts Russians as a group of malicious hate harboring mad men intent on destroying the world.

Skittles_McGee

Besides it's an american made game. EVERYTHING the americans do depicts themselves in a glorious victorious manner because americans dont lose. It's Kind of sad really.

If the game were made in russia it would be backwards and the russians would be glorified.

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="tutt3r"]

Isn't it more disgusting how each war game depicts Russians as a group of malicious hate harboring mad men intent on destroying the world.

Besides it's an american made game. EVERYTHING the americans do depicts themselves in a glorious victorious manner because americans dont lose. It's Kind of sad really.

If the game were made in russia it would be backwards and the russians would be glorified.

One question arises-- did Mason kill JFK consciously? Or did the brainwashing have complete control, thereby rendering Mason mentally and emotionally blameless?

MathMattS

even more interesting is JFK's emails. go to the computer on the main menu and type: Login, then type JFKennedy, then type LANCER, then type mail. read the emails from "john trent".

and to really screw with you mind, look at john trent's emails to Hudson. Hudson's username is Jhudson and his password is BYRANT1950.

SPOILER!!!!!

ok, theres a part towards the end when mason grabs someone (forgot the name) and says: YOU TRIED TO GET ME TO KILL THE PRESIDENT

and the guy replies: Tried????

implying that he will kill the president, being JFK

and also at the end there are shots of JFK taking his final ride before being shot and killed, and mason is mysteriously highlighted lurking in the shadows as if HE'S the one who ended up killing JFK

anyone else notice this?

im not upset but it is a sensitive subject; the assassination of the president of the united states, and here you are playing the game as the guy who did it.

right4dead

Eh, it was left too ambiguous for Fox News to pick up. I wonder how Cubans felt that the first mission revolved around killing their still alive president.DarthBilf

umm...you do realize that the CIA really did try to kill Castro in the 60's right? hell here's a few from CNN according to a former top ranking Cuban official, the CIA tried to kill him 638 times.

[QUOTE="F1ame_Shie1d"]

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"] Ironically, COD does the opposite, generally painting the Russians as the guys who don't mess around and get the job done. Generally speaking anyway.antifanboyftw

Besides it's an american made game. EVERYTHING the americans do depicts themselves in a glorious victorious manner because americans dont lose. It's Kind of sad really.

If the game were made in russia it would be backwards and the russians would be glorified.

skittle is saying that COD is depicting them as villians?F1ame_Shie1d

[QUOTE="F1ame_Shie1d"] skittle is saying that COD is depicting them as villians?Skittles_McGee

Treyarch's CoDs anyways. In MW2... well, I don't think I have to say anything there. In MW1, even the allied Russians were looked on with contempt by Price and Gaz.