Im tired of lemmings saying uneducated bullspit

I am tired of lemmings saying oh the mgs series is far overrated. If it was overrated why would other lemmings be so quick to say oh it's coming to 360. If it is so overrated why would microsoft beg... literally on their knees geting ready to you what to Kojima to make a xbox port. Oh yea remember the time when lemmings said "we don't need bluray, ps3 was just made to help bluray" look at them now lol. Microsoft said they might make a bluray 360 if there consumers want it. Now the lemmings are all saying we want bluray. Oh yea just to bring it out bluray won the format war just do ya research.manystylez

:roll: Yes, because lemmings are the only fanboys that do that....please. Personally, I haven't enjoyed a MGS game since Solid on the PS1, and even though I have a ps3 I have no interest in getting it. The reality is that there is a chance (however small) of MGS coming to the 360. Why? Money.

Let's say that MGS cost 20 million to make. Now, for the sake of argument well say that MGS will sell 3 million copies (which IMO is an overestimation, but I digress). At $60 per game that would equal out to around 180 million. Once you take out publishing costs, manufacturing, royalties, licensing, the cost of BD, you're probably down to around 130 million made. And cows can claim loyatly to the PlayStation brand, but the truth is is that Konami is a business with investors. They could care less about anything but making money.

Now, developers have indicated that porting a game only adds 10% to development fields, so for my example it would be around an extra 2 million. Now, there are around 10 miliion 360's out there. Let's say that the 360 sells 2 million copies for an extra 120 million. It would make sense for them to port it.

In regard to Blu Ray. Personally, I don't feel it's NEEDED this generation, but it is beneficial. I personally could care less that I have to get off the couch once in awhile to change discs. So, that's just my points, I hope you take something from them.

Is it a good game? YES

Does it deserve the hype? NOOOOOOO

MGS4 Is unbelievable!!!!!111111shift+1=!

Halo and Bioshock are the most overrated games ever!

The cell is great for games! It makes 4D graphics + the 120 FPS!

[Sorry for the broken sarcasm meters]

Huh? Look how Blu-Ray turned out? Did you not see the irony? Blu-Ray wouldn't have won without the PS3...:|

Halo 3 isn't overrated forgot to mention that but to me it didn't really offer anything diff. of halo2 they looked similar

[QUOTE="manystylez"]I am tired of lemmings saying oh the mgs series is far overrated. If it was overrated why would other lemmings be so quick to say oh it's coming to 360. If it is so overrated why would microsoft beg... literally on their knees geting ready to you what to Kojima to make a xbox port. Oh yea remember the time when lemmings said "we don't need bluray, ps3 was just made to help bluray" look at them now lol. Microsoft said they might make a bluray 360 if there consumers want it. Now the lemmings are all saying we want bluray. Oh yea just to bring it out bluray won the format war just do ya research.Eddie5vs1

:roll: Yes, because lemmings are the only fanboys that do that....please. Personally, I haven't enjoyed a MGS game since Solid on the PS1, and even though I have a ps3 I have no interest in getting it. The reality is that there is a chance (however small) of MGS coming to the 360. Why? Money.

Let's say that MGS cost 20 million to make. Now, for the sake of argument well say that MGS will sell 3 million copies (which IMO is an overestimation, but I digress). At $60 per game that would equal out to around 180 million. Once you take out publishing costs, manufacturing, royalties, licensing, the cost of BD, you're probably down to around 130 million made. And cows can claim loyatly to the PlayStation brand, but the truth is is that Konami is a business with investors. They could care less about anything but making money.

Now, developers have indicated that porting a game only adds 10% to development fields, so for my example it would be around an extra 2 million. Now, there are around 10 miliion 360's out there. Let's say that the 360 sells 2 million copies for an extra 120 million. It would make sense for them to port it.

In regard to Blu Ray. Personally, I don't feel it's NEEDED this generation, but it is beneficial. I personally could care less that I have to get off the couch once in awhile to change discs. So, that's just my points, I hope you take something from them.

it don't cost 20 million to make

MGS4 Is unbelievable!!!!!111111shift+1=!

Halo and Bioshock are the most overrated games ever!

The cell is great for games! It makes 4D graphics + the 120 FPS!

[Sorry for the broken sarcasm meters]

II-FBIsniper-II

No, the most overrated games are in my signature.....

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[QUOTE="manystylez"]I am tired of lemmings saying oh the mgs series is far overrated. If it was overrated why would other lemmings be so quick to say oh it's coming to 360. If it is so overrated why would microsoft beg... literally on their knees geting ready to you what to Kojima to make a xbox port. Oh yea remember the time when lemmings said "we don't need bluray, ps3 was just made to help bluray" look at them now lol. Microsoft said they might make a bluray 360 if there consumers want it. Now the lemmings are all saying we want bluray. Oh yea just to bring it out bluray won the format war just do ya research.Eddie5vs1

:roll: Yes, because lemmings are the only fanboys that do that....please. Personally, I haven't enjoyed a MGS game since Solid on the PS1, and even though I have a ps3 I have no interest in getting it. The reality is that there is a chance (however small) of MGS coming to the 360. Why? Money.

Let's say that MGS cost 20 million to make. Now, for the sake of argument well say that MGS will sell 3 million copies (which IMO is an overestimation, but I digress). At $60 per game that would equal out to around 180 million. Once you take out publishing costs, manufacturing, royalties, licensing, the cost of BD, you're probably down to around 130 million made. And cows can claim loyatly to the PlayStation brand, but the truth is is that Konami is a business with investors. They could care less about anything but making money.

Now, developers have indicated that porting a game only adds 10% to development fields, so for my example it would be around an extra 2 million. Now, there are around 10 miliion 360's out there. Let's say that the 360 sells 2 million copies for an extra 120 million. It would make sense for them to port it.

In regard to Blu Ray. Personally, I don't feel it's NEEDED this generation, but it is beneficial. I personally could care less that I have to get off the couch once in awhile to change discs. So, that's just my points, I hope you take something from them.

By your logic all games should be multiplat...lol -D3MO-

i[QUOTE="Eddie5vs1"]

[QUOTE="manystylez"]I am tired of lemmings saying oh the mgs series is far overrated. If it was overrated why would other lemmings be so quick to say oh it's coming to 360. If it is so overrated why would microsoft beg... literally on their knees geting ready to you what to Kojima to make a xbox port. Oh yea remember the time when lemmings said "we don't need bluray, ps3 was just made to help bluray" look at them now lol. Microsoft said they might make a bluray 360 if there consumers want it. Now the lemmings are all saying we want bluray. Oh yea just to bring it out bluray won the format war just do ya research.manystylez

:roll: Yes, because lemmings are the only fanboys that do that....please. Personally, I haven't enjoyed a MGS game since Solid on the PS1, and even though I have a ps3 I have no interest in getting it. The reality is that there is a chance (however small) of MGS coming to the 360. Why? Money.

Let's say that MGS cost 20 million to make. Now, for the sake of argument well say that MGS will sell 3 million copies (which IMO is an overestimation, but I digress). At $60 per game that would equal out to around 180 million. Once you take out publishing costs, manufacturing, royalties, licensing, the cost of BD, you're probably down to around 130 million made. And cows can claim loyatly to the PlayStation brand, but the truth is is that Konami is a business with investors. They could care less about anything but making money.

Now, developers have indicated that porting a game only adds 10% to development fields, so for my example it would be around an extra 2 million. Now, there are around 10 miliion 360's out there. Let's say that the 360 sells 2 million copies for an extra 120 million. It would make sense for them to port it.

In regard to Blu Ray. Personally, I don't feel it's NEEDED this generation, but it is beneficial. I personally could care less that I have to get off the couch once in awhile to change discs. So, that's just my points, I hope you take something from them.

it don't cost 20 million to make

You have no clue how much games cost to make these days. That's why fewer and fewer developers are willing to take risks on new IP's. Or why so many publishers/developers are consolidating.

[QUOTE="Eddie5vs1"]

[QUOTE="manystylez"]I am tired of lemmings saying oh the mgs series is far overrated. If it was overrated why would other lemmings be so quick to say oh it's coming to 360. If it is so overrated why would microsoft beg... literally on their knees geting ready to you what to Kojima to make a xbox port. Oh yea remember the time when lemmings said "we don't need bluray, ps3 was just made to help bluray" look at them now lol. Microsoft said they might make a bluray 360 if there consumers want it. Now the lemmings are all saying we want bluray. Oh yea just to bring it out bluray won the format war just do ya research.-D3MO-

:roll: Yes, because lemmings are the only fanboys that do that....please. Personally, I haven't enjoyed a MGS game since Solid on the PS1, and even though I have a ps3 I have no interest in getting it. The reality is that there is a chance (however small) of MGS coming to the 360. Why? Money.

Let's say that MGS cost 20 million to make. Now, for the sake of argument well say that MGS will sell 3 million copies (which IMO is an overestimation, but I digress). At $60 per game that would equal out to around 180 million. Once you take out publishing costs, manufacturing, royalties, licensing, the cost of BD, you're probably down to around 130 million made. And cows can claim loyatly to the PlayStation brand, but the truth is is that Konami is a business with investors. They could care less about anything but making money.

Now, developers have indicated that porting a game only adds 10% to development fields, so for my example it would be around an extra 2 million. Now, there are around 10 miliion 360's out there. Let's say that the 360 sells 2 million copies for an extra 120 million. It would make sense for them to port it.

In regard to Blu Ray. Personally, I don't feel it's NEEDED this generation, but it is beneficial. I personally could care less that I have to get off the couch once in awhile to change discs. So, that's just my points, I hope you take something from them.

You don't think it's going that way already? I'm not the first person to say this as many developers are saying the same thing. With rising costs of video games, and risk, developers are making money any way they can (look at microtransactions). IMO, it's only a matter of time until all games are multiplat except for 1st party games.

[QUOTE="-D3MO-"] By your logic all games should be multiplat...lol II-FBIsniper-II

[QUOTE="-D3MO-"][QUOTE="Eddie5vs1"]

[QUOTE="manystylez"]I am tired of lemmings saying oh the mgs series is far overrated. If it was overrated why would other lemmings be so quick to say oh it's coming to 360. If it is so overrated why would microsoft beg... literally on their knees geting ready to you what to Kojima to make a xbox port. Oh yea remember the time when lemmings said "we don't need bluray, ps3 was just made to help bluray" look at them now lol. Microsoft said they might make a bluray 360 if there consumers want it. Now the lemmings are all saying we want bluray. Oh yea just to bring it out bluray won the format war just do ya research.Eddie5vs1

:roll: Yes, because lemmings are the only fanboys that do that....please. Personally, I haven't enjoyed a MGS game since Solid on the PS1, and even though I have a ps3 I have no interest in getting it. The reality is that there is a chance (however small) of MGS coming to the 360. Why? Money.

Let's say that MGS cost 20 million to make. Now, for the sake of argument well say that MGS will sell 3 million copies (which IMO is an overestimation, but I digress). At $60 per game that would equal out to around 180 million. Once you take out publishing costs, manufacturing, royalties, licensing, the cost of BD, you're probably down to around 130 million made. And cows can claim loyatly to the PlayStation brand, but the truth is is that Konami is a business with investors. They could care less about anything but making money.

Now, developers have indicated that porting a game only adds 10% to development fields, so for my example it would be around an extra 2 million. Now, there are around 10 miliion 360's out there. Let's say that the 360 sells 2 million copies for an extra 120 million. It would make sense for them to port it.

In regard to Blu Ray. Personally, I don't feel it's NEEDED this generation, but it is beneficial. I personally could care less that I have to get off the couch once in awhile to change discs. So, that's just my points, I hope you take something from them.

You don't think it's going that way already? I'm not the first person to say this as many developers are saying the same thing. With rising costs of video games, and risk, developers are making money any way they can (look at microtransactions). IMO, it's only a matter of time until all games are multiplat except for 1st party games.

It's starting too, but the amount games following that trend is quite small. Right now, off the top of my head, all I can think of is Enternal Sonata, DMC 4, Lost Planet, and Fallout 3 (moving away from PC to extend to consoles).

[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"][QUOTE="-D3MO-"] By your logic all games should be multiplat...lol -D3MO-

More Multiplats means more options + more competition.

1 console market means less choices + no competition

i[QUOTE="Eddie5vs1"]

[QUOTE="manystylez"]I am tired of lemmings saying oh the mgs series is far overrated. If it was overrated why would other lemmings be so quick to say oh it's coming to 360. If it is so overrated why would microsoft beg... literally on their knees geting ready to you what to Kojima to make a xbox port. Oh yea remember the time when lemmings said "we don't need bluray, ps3 was just made to help bluray" look at them now lol. Microsoft said they might make a bluray 360 if there consumers want it. Now the lemmings are all saying we want bluray. Oh yea just to bring it out bluray won the format war just do ya research.manystylez

:roll: Yes, because lemmings are the only fanboys that do that....please. Personally, I haven't enjoyed a MGS game since Solid on the PS1, and even though I have a ps3 I have no interest in getting it. The reality is that there is a chance (however small) of MGS coming to the 360. Why? Money.

Let's say that MGS cost 20 million to make. Now, for the sake of argument well say that MGS will sell 3 million copies (which IMO is an overestimation, but I digress). At $60 per game that would equal out to around 180 million. Once you take out publishing costs, manufacturing, royalties, licensing, the cost of BD, you're probably down to around 130 million made. And cows can claim loyatly to the PlayStation brand, but the truth is is that Konami is a business with investors. They could care less about anything but making money.

Now, developers have indicated that porting a game only adds 10% to development fields, so for my example it would be around an extra 2 million. Now, there are around 10 miliion 360's out there. Let's say that the 360 sells 2 million copies for an extra 120 million. It would make sense for them to port it.

In regard to Blu Ray. Personally, I don't feel it's NEEDED this generation, but it is beneficial. I personally could care less that I have to get off the couch once in awhile to change discs. So, that's just my points, I hope you take something from them.

it don't cost 20 million to make

it doesn't cost 20 million to make

Now what was that about "uneducated lemmings"???