IMO Mouse and Keyboard combo ****

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#1 GreasyFetus69
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I dont like it that much, even for FPS. I get cramps and wrist problems from it. I dont care if it is more precise and accurate, I think game controllers, like the 360s are way more comfortable. Plus you can lay back on the couch and relax.It doesnt have to be as precise if everyone else is using a contoller too over Xbox Live. And no, i dont know why Im posting this, and yes good for me then.
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I dont like it that much, even for FPS. I get cramps and wrist problems from it. I dont care if it is more precise and accurate, I think game controllers, like the 360s are way more comfortable. Plus you can lay back on the couchand relax.It doesnt have to be as precise if everyone else is using a contoller too over Xbox Live.GreasyFetus69

1. You don't like it and it gives you cramps yet your still here posting about it, with it?
2. Nothing's stoping you from hooking your PC up to your television. Its the whole Idea of media center, only you don't need a MC to do that.

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[QUOTE="GreasyFetus69"]I dont like it that much, even for FPS. I get cramps and wrist problems from it. I dont care if it is more precise and accurate, I think game controllers, like the 360s are way more comfortable. Plus you can lay back on the couchand relax.It doesnt have to be as precise if everyone else is using a contoller too over Xbox Live.Pro_wrestler

1. You don't like it and it gives you cramps yet your still here posting about it, with it?
2. Nothing's stoping you from hooking your PC up to your television. Its the whole Idea of media center, only you don't need a MC to do that.

Well typing is a whole differnt story when I dont have to be doing it for long periods of time. Come on everyone gets wrist cramps and aches from just typing for long periods of time. Plus its the way the mouse and keyboard have to be held to when playing fast paced twitch shooters like CS:S.
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Yes, ty for letting us know your opinion :roll:
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#5 furtherfan
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it's a highly complicated way of controlling that works really well when you get used to it. not intuitive at all though.
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#6 ParasiteDemon
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Your opinion is wrong....

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#7 GreasyFetus69
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Yes, ty for letting us know your opinion :roll:Led_poison
Isnt that one of the reasons these forums exist? Or for that matter the internet in general?:roll:
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#8 GreasyFetus69
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Your opinion is wrong....

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Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!:cry:
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[QUOTE="Led_poison"]Yes, ty for letting us know your opinion :roll:GreasyFetus69
Isnt that one of the reasons these forums exist? Or for that matter the internet in general?

yes but being a forum jackass is fun aswell
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[QUOTE="GreasyFetus69"][QUOTE="Led_poison"]Yes, ty for letting us know your opinion :roll:Led_poison
Isnt that one of the reasons these forums exist? Or for that matter the internet in general?

yes but being a forum jackass is fun aswell

What??!!? A jackass!! Where??!?!:evil:
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#11 OGTiago
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They need to replace the kebord with something better.
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#12 Vandalvideo
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I prefer the keyboard and mouse for RTS...heck RTS in their natural state need the keyboard and mouse. I do like the controller for some stuff though.
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#13 GreasyFetus69
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They need to replace the kebord with something better.OGTiago
That might work, never thought of that.
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#14 GreasyFetus69
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I prefer the keyboard and mouse for RTS...heck RTS in their natural state need the keyboard and mouse. I do like the controller for some stuff though.Vandalvideo
Yea RTS it is, but for racing, fighting, platforming, adventuring, sports, (and FPS IMO) it is not.
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[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]

[QUOTE="GreasyFetus69"]I dont like it that much, even for FPS. I get cramps and wrist problems from it. I dont care if it is more precise and accurate, I think game controllers, like the 360s are way more comfortable. Plus you can lay back on the couchand relax.It doesnt have to be as precise if everyone else is using a contoller too over Xbox Live.GreasyFetus69

1. You don't like it and it gives you cramps yet your still here posting about it, with it?
2. Nothing's stoping you from hooking your PC up to your television. Its the whole Idea of media center, only you don't need a MC to do that.

Well typing is a whole differnt story when I dont have to be doing it for long periods of time. Come on everyone gets wrist cramps and aches from just typing for long periods of time. Plus its the way the mouse and keyboard have to be held to when playing fast paced twitch shooters like CS:S.

Get a gaming mouse and keyboard then. They're more comfortable and effective.

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I prefer the keyboard and mouse for RTS...heck RTS in their natural state need the keyboard and mouse. I do like the controller for some stuff though.GreasyFetus69
Yea RTS it is, but for racing, fighting, platforming, adventuring, sports, (and FPS IMO) it is not.

I prefer KBM for soccer easily and maybe even racing. But if we wanna get into that, logitech steering wheels > controller big time. PS: Theres nothing wrong with using KBM for fighters. I use it for Kwonho.
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Shadowrun is the flagship title for the Games for Windows - LIVE service that allows Windows Vista PC users to be fully integrated into Xbox Live

"Due to this integration,

FASA has decided to make several changes to try and create a more balanced competition between the Xbox 360 and PC version

Because of some of the lack of 'pixel-accuracy' with the Xbox 360 analog thumbstick, the designers have included an aim-assisting technology, which basically interpolates the player's movement and causes the reticle to stay over an enemy player like a weak magnet

In addition, FASA has implemented a feature which causes the crosshair to expand during quick movements, thus lowering the player's accuracy

making it impossible to quickly turn and maintain accuracy,

reducing the potential advantage of playing with a mouse.

PC players, who have a more sensitive control scheme, are able to turn significantly faster than their controller brethren and would have gained an unfair advantage. Many believe this defeats the purpose of having a separate version for the PC platform and that it is forcing PC players to play it like a console game."

Yep M/KB is just sooooo bad :roll:

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#18 Pro_wrestler
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[QUOTE="GreasyFetus69"][QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]

[QUOTE="GreasyFetus69"]I dont like it that much, even for FPS. I get cramps and wrist problems from it. I dont care if it is more precise and accurate, I think game controllers, like the 360s are way more comfortable. Plus you can lay back on the couchand relax.It doesnt have to be as precise if everyone else is using a contoller too over Xbox Live.dgsag

1. You don't like it and it gives you cramps yet your still here posting about it, with it?
2. Nothing's stoping you from hooking your PC up to your television. Its the whole Idea of media center, only you don't need a MC to do that.

Well typing is a whole differnt story when I dont have to be doing it for long periods of time. Come on everyone gets wrist cramps and aches from just typing for long periods of time. Plus its the way the mouse and keyboard have to be held to when playing fast paced twitch shooters like CS:S.

Get a gaming mouse and keyboard then. They're more comfortable and effective.

Logitech MX Revolution:)

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#19 H3OXTC
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IMO your opinion sucks but your entitled to it. See how opinions don't really make a good argument?
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#20 gingerdivid
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You get cramps from using a M/K? Wow, I have never been in pain when using M/K before. I'm not sure it's a widespread issue, funny enough.
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#21 mistervengeance
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i don't like it either, maybe because i never got used to it for anything, besides rts's. besides, the way my computer is set up i can't sit up straight comfortably and play games at the same time.
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#22 dispator
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Well i love playing fighters sports and racing even some 3d 3dperson games with a controler!

But for me KEY+Mouse are the only way i can really get imersed in FPS,Strategy games real time and turn based,and most RPGs also MMO games,most of these genres get dumb down a lot when ported to consoles couse of their lack of keys and mouse FACT.

Also my current mouse and keyboard really make it all the more enjoyable and give u an advantage over some standard setups,so gamepads arent even worth mentioning for multyplayer FPS imo!!

PS:I played Team Fortress 2 today for 5-6h and my hands are fine :P LOL to be honest most of the times when me and my friends play PES6 on X360 or PS2 for a long long time my hands feel stiff and also my thumbs get sore!! Just my experiences:oops:

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#23 frankeyser
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hmm i have a wirless gaming mouse and keyboard... i sit on my couch and play comfortably... i dont get cramps using a controller or KB&M perhaps you have weak wrists.
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#24 -R3Volation
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Your opinion is wrong....

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#25 foxhound_fox
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Okay, then take you computer, hook it up to your TV and then take that 360 controller of yours and use it instead. At least with PC, you get the option of using a different control method.

And KB/M is far better in terms of competitiveness then dual analogue.
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#26 BioGarbage
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using the mouse is much more omfortable to me than controllers
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#27 Hat_Damage
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they arent bad controls but i do perfer Dual Analog over them, i think i just have to get used to it though.
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#28 ZanuffC
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I think dual analog feels very strange with FPS games, having played them on PC for so damn long, it is probably due to being used to it, but if people have only been gaming long enough to get used to dual analogs, well, nothing
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#29 gamenux
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Lets just say KB/M is not for everyone. Some people just can't handle it. :)
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#30 nintendo_fan675
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Well thats your opinion
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#31 PotatoSan
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I think it's fine, although not always too fun to use, I guess.
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#32 daveg1
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i agree with you i like it more also its anoying using keyborad and mouse..its only good for hermits in comps...sorry
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#33 Vandalvideo
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i agree with you i like it more also its anoying using keyborad and mouse..its only good for hermits in comps...sorry daveg1
Well I think its amazing, intuitive, and works with a wide range of games.
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[QUOTE="GreasyFetus69"]I dont like it that much, even for FPS. I get cramps and wrist problems from it. I dont care if it is more precise and accurate, I think game controllers, like the 360s are way more comfortable. Plus you can lay back on the couchand relax.It doesnt have to be as precise if everyone else is using a contoller too over Xbox Live.Pro_wrestler

1. You don't like it and it gives you cramps yet your still here posting about it, with it?
2. Nothing's stoping you from hooking your PC up to your television. Its the whole Idea of media center, only you don't need a MC to do that.

forgive me for being of topic, but how do you hook youre pc to youre tv
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forgive me for being of topic, but how do you hook youre pc to youre tvviva_havarte
Depends what kind of TV.
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I agree, I'm not a big fan of the KB/M combination. O ya, a message to the hermits: IT'S JUST OUR OPINON!!! lol, so please quit bashing it.
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#37 Vandalvideo
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I agree, I'm not a big fan of the KB/M combination. O ya, a message to the hermits: IT'S JUST OUR OPINON!!! lol, so please quit bashing it.ganon546
We're not bashing, besides why would we care? All your gamepads are belong to us.
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#38 stereointegrity
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i love them..especially for bf2 marathons
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[QUOTE="daveg1"]i agree with you i like it more also its anoying using keyborad and mouse..its only good for hermits in comps...sorry Vandalvideo
Well I think its amazing, intuitive, and works with a wide range of games.

i suppose it just depends on what your used to..each to there i own..
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[QUOTE="ganon546"]I agree, I'm not a big fan of the KB/M combination. O ya, a message to the hermits: IT'S JUST OUR OPINON!!! lol, so please quit bashing it.Vandalvideo
We're not bashing, besides why would we care? All your gamepads are belong to us.

Well put lol,also im sure i would pretty much destroy u peeps with ur gamepads in most if not all fps cant imagine what i would do to you in C&C3 :D

Well when gears and UT are out for PC u will see the difference and feel the pain :twisted:

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="ganon546"]I agree, I'm not a big fan of the KB/M combination. O ya, a message to the hermits: IT'S JUST OUR OPINON!!! lol, so please quit bashing it.dispator

We're not bashing, besides why would we care? All your gamepads are belong to us.

Well put lol,also im sure i would pretty much destroy u peeps with ur gamepads in most if not all fps cant imagine what i would do to you in C&C3 :D

Well when gears and UT are out for PC u will see the difference and feel the pain :twisted:

:shock: Your PC is awesome...

2 2900's? I'm envious.

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I prefer the keyboard and mouse for RTS...heck RTS in their natural state need the keyboard and mouse. I do like the controller for some stuff though.GreasyFetus69
Yea RTS it is, but for racing, fighting, platforming, adventuring, sports, (and FPS IMO) it is not.

Thats an opinion. Ive witnessed (and particpated in) many a lan where the gamers with keyboards where whooping the contoller players butts. Just like a pro with a controller can beat an average m/k player.
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#43 dispator
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[QUOTE="dispator"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="ganon546"]I agree, I'm not a big fan of the KB/M combination. O ya, a message to the hermits: IT'S JUST OUR OPINON!!! lol, so please quit bashing it.agentfred

We're not bashing, besides why would we care? All your gamepads are belong to us.

Well put lol,also im sure i would pretty much destroy u peeps with ur gamepads in most if not all fps cant imagine what i would do to you in C&C3 :D

Well when gears and UT are out for PC u will see the difference and feel the pain :twisted:

:shock: Your PC is awesome...

2 2900's? I'm envious.

:) well it has to be amazing for the time and cash i put into it,ill change the processor inthe coming months,probably for a christmas present for myself:P

On topic part i love the most right now are my keyboard and mouse paid like 150euros for those alone+mouse pad 20euros ,almost a Wii lol.And no way in hell can anyonesay they can get more accuracy with a analog stick than a good mouse.

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