In 5 Years.. Wii Will be long forgotten. Not future proof enough

Okay....you're shallow.

And you're dizzying array of cold, hard facts would seem very convincing if it weren't for the lone fact that systems only last about 5 to 6 years anyway until the next wave comes.

And PC gaming doesn't have HD.foxhound_fox

Simply because prolly in less than a year ps3 and 360 will have similar controllers and still better graphics.  .tazzydnc

No way on earth. Besides, with a whole army of 360 and PS3 owners calling the Wii-mote "gimicky" and "for kids", why would "hardcore" gaming companies like Sony or MS fashion new controllers to imitate the Wii?

Either "hardcore" gamers admit that the Wii rocks, or what you're saying simply doesn't make any logical sense.

What you're saying is, "360 and PS3 will have the best, coolest stuff because....they're 360 and PS3, and all cool stuff is released on those platforms.. The Wii-mote sucks, but....we're gonna have one on the 360 anyways!"

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]And PC gaming doesn't have HD.drewtwo99

I mean honestly. Do you really think in 5 years the wii will still be selling as good as it is?! It looks to me that the Wii is going in the same direction the N64 and Gamecube is going. Selling great to begin with but will slowly die down. I mean in 5 years when people get tired of the new controller feature, people will want superior games and superior graphics. Most likely PS3 will be the dominating Console within 5 years. I was done with nintendo ever since the N64, Yes I use to love the NES/Snes but those days are long gone and I need something more powerful. Call me shallow, but im very big on graphics. Despite me being a PS3 fan, I love gears becasue of the graphics and its a fun game. I mean the Wii just wont have the lasting appeal. Infact I take that back, id be suprised if it even lasted 5 years, I think after 2 years the wii is going to end up like the gamecube and N64, its just not future proof whatsoeverAhammer80

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I could say the same thing about PS3/xbox360. In 3 years, developers have perfected motion sensing and nobody will want to go back to old controllers, even WITH Hd graphics.

[QUOTE="Ahammer80"]I mean honestly. Do you really think in 5 years the wii will still be selling as good as it is?! It looks to me that the Wii is going in the same direction the N64 and Gamecube is going. Selling great to begin with but will slowly die down. I mean in 5 years when people get tired of the new controller feature, people will want superior games and superior graphics. Most likely PS3 will be the dominating Console within 5 years. I was done with nintendo ever since the N64, Yes I use to love the NES/Snes but those days are long gone and I need something more powerful. Call me shallow, but im very big on graphics. Despite me being a PS3 fan, I love gears becasue of the graphics and its a fun game. I mean the Wii just wont have the lasting appeal. Infact I take that back, id be suprised if it even lasted 5 years, I think after 2 years the wii is going to end up like the gamecube and N64, its just not future proof whatsoeversauska_sun

I mean honestly. Do you really think in 5 years the wii will still be selling as good as it is?! It looks to me that the Wii is going in the same direction the N64 and Gamecube is going. Selling great to begin with but will slowly die down. I mean in 5 years when people get tired of the new controller feature, people will want superior games and superior graphics. Most likely PS3 will be the dominating Console within 5 years. I was done with nintendo ever since the N64, Yes I use to love the NES/Snes but those days are long gone and I need something more powerful. Call me shallow, but im very big on graphics. Despite me being a PS3 fan, I love gears becasue of the graphics and its a fun game. I mean the Wii just wont have the lasting appeal. Infact I take that back, id be suprised if it even lasted 5 years, I think after 2 years the wii is going to end up like the gamecube and N64, its just not future proof whatsoeverAhammer80

As much as it bothers me, the Wii is on a better pace than both 360 and PS3, let alone Nintendo's last two home consoles. And stop with this "future proof" crap Sony feeds you. If people cared about power, PSone and 2 wouldn't have won the last two gens, period. I think a better argument is the future lineups for each console. To me, 360 and PS3 both have outstanding future lineups, Nintendo's is full of "games" that appeal to a far different crowd, but right now, it's looking like their strategy is going pay off, which is unfortunate. Also, I saw, somebody mention how Sony and MS may release controllers similar to what the Wii has. I agree, but they probably (hopefully) won't make them standard until the next round of consoles. Even still, I've yet to see how the Wii remote makes games better than traditional controllers. Not one FPS on Wii is better than Rainbow Six: Vegas or F.E.A.R.Gamer46

Even still, I've yet to see how the Wii remote makes games better than traditional controllers. Not one FPS on Wii is better than Rainbow Six: Vegas, F.E.A.R., Call of Duty 2, or Resistance.Gamer46

[QUOTE="sauska_sun"][QUOTE="Ahammer80"]I mean honestly. Do you really think in 5 years the wii will still be selling as good as it is?! It looks to me that the Wii is going in the same direction the N64 and Gamecube is going. Selling great to begin with but will slowly die down. I mean in 5 years when people get tired of the new controller feature, people will want superior games and superior graphics. Most likely PS3 will be the dominating Console within 5 years. I was done with nintendo ever since the N64, Yes I use to love the NES/Snes but those days are long gone and I need something more powerful. Call me shallow, but im very big on graphics. Despite me being a PS3 fan, I love gears becasue of the graphics and its a fun game. I mean the Wii just wont have the lasting appeal. Infact I take that back, id be suprised if it even lasted 5 years, I think after 2 years the wii is going to end up like the gamecube and N64, its just not future proof whatsoeverTristam22

[QUOTE="Gamer46"]As much as it bothers me, the Wii is on a better pace than both 360 and PS3, let alone Nintendo's last two home consoles. And stop with this "future proof" crap Sony feeds you. If people cared about power, PSone and 2 wouldn't have won the last two gens, period. I think a better argument is the future lineups for each console. To me, 360 and PS3 both have outstanding future lineups, Nintendo's is full of "games" that appeal to a far different crowd, but right now, it's looking like their strategy is going pay off, which is unfortunate. Also, I saw, somebody mention how Sony and MS may release controllers similar to what the Wii has. I agree, but they probably (hopefully) won't make them standard until the next round of consoles. Even still, I've yet to see how the Wii remote makes games better than traditional controllers. Not one FPS on Wii is better than Rainbow Six: Vegas or F.E.A.R.Tristam22

Red Steel was made by Ubisoft, you can say what you want, but they are a well regarded developer and RS SUCKED compared to what you can get on other consoles.  I'll give you MP 3, it will be phenomenal, but I don't think it's going to make me want to stay away from Halo 3.  RE: UC... I'm not sold on this one at all, but it's Capcom, so I'll play it before judging.

[QUOTE="Tristam22"][QUOTE="Gamer46"]As much as it bothers me, the Wii is on a better pace than both 360 and PS3, let alone Nintendo's last two home consoles. And stop with this "future proof" crap Sony feeds you. If people cared about power, PSone and 2 wouldn't have won the last two gens, period. I think a better argument is the future lineups for each console. To me, 360 and PS3 both have outstanding future lineups, Nintendo's is full of "games" that appeal to a far different crowd, but right now, it's looking like their strategy is going pay off, which is unfortunate. Also, I saw, somebody mention how Sony and MS may release controllers similar to what the Wii has. I agree, but they probably (hopefully) won't make them standard until the next round of consoles. Even still, I've yet to see how the Wii remote makes games better than traditional controllers. Not one FPS on Wii is better than Rainbow Six: Vegas or F.E.A.R.Gamer46

Red Steel was made by Ubisoft, you can say what you want, but they are a well regarded developer and RS SUCKED compared to what you can get on other consoles. I'll give you MP 3, it will be phenomenal, but I don't think it's going to make me want to stay away from Halo 3. RE: UC... I'm not sold on this one at all, but it's Capcom, so I'll play it before judging.

Red Steel was made by Ubisoft, you can say what you want, but they are a well regarded developer and RS SUCKED compared to what you can get on other consoles.  I'll give you MP 3, it will be phenomenal, but I don't think it's going to make me want to stay away from Halo 3.  RE: UC... I'm not sold on this one at all, but it's Capcom, so I'll play it before judging.

Gamer46

Fusion Frenzy 2 (and XBLA) sucked compared to what you can get on the Wii. If you want shooters, buy a 360 or wait for some heavy hitters to land on the Wii. If you want party games and imersive adventure games, look no further than the Wii. Even when the 360 came out, me and all my friends were still mutliplaying Halo 2. We could have cared less about the newest FPSs.

[QUOTE="Tristam22"][QUOTE="Gamer46"]As much as it bothers me, the Wii is on a better pace than both 360 and PS3, let alone Nintendo's last two home consoles. And stop with this "future proof" crap Sony feeds you. If people cared about power, PSone and 2 wouldn't have won the last two gens, period. I think a better argument is the future lineups for each console. To me, 360 and PS3 both have outstanding future lineups, Nintendo's is full of "games" that appeal to a far different crowd, but right now, it's looking like their strategy is going pay off, which is unfortunate. Also, I saw, somebody mention how Sony and MS may release controllers similar to what the Wii has. I agree, but they probably (hopefully) won't make them standard until the next round of consoles. Even still, I've yet to see how the Wii remote makes games better than traditional controllers. Not one FPS on Wii is better than Rainbow Six: Vegas or F.E.A.R.Gamer46

Red Steel was made by Ubisoft, you can say what you want, but they are a well regarded developer and RS SUCKED compared to what you can get on other consoles. I'll give you MP 3, it will be phenomenal, but I don't think it's going to make me want to stay away from Halo 3. RE: UC... I'm not sold on this one at all, but it's Capcom, so I'll play it before judging.

[QUOTE="Gamer46"]

[QUOTE="Tristam22"][QUOTE="Gamer46"]As much as it bothers me, the Wii is on a better pace than both 360 and PS3, let alone Nintendo's last two home consoles. And stop with this "future proof" crap Sony feeds you. If people cared about power, PSone and 2 wouldn't have won the last two gens, period. I think a better argument is the future lineups for each console. To me, 360 and PS3 both have outstanding future lineups, Nintendo's is full of "games" that appeal to a far different crowd, but right now, it's looking like their strategy is going pay off, which is unfortunate. Also, I saw, somebody mention how Sony and MS may release controllers similar to what the Wii has. I agree, but they probably (hopefully) won't make them standard until the next round of consoles. Even still, I've yet to see how the Wii remote makes games better than traditional controllers. Not one FPS on Wii is better than Rainbow Six: Vegas or F.E.A.R.mjarantilla

Red Steel was made by Ubisoft, you can say what you want, but they are a well regarded developer and RS SUCKED compared to what you can get on other consoles. I'll give you MP 3, it will be phenomenal, but I don't think it's going to make me want to stay away from Halo 3. RE: UC... I'm not sold on this one at all, but it's Capcom, so I'll play it before judging.

Damage control at its finest.  And I've yet to play games in other genres that make me say "I don't want to go back."  I'm looking forward to playing Super Mario Galaxy, but it's not going to make me want to miss out on Ratchet and Clank Future or Banjo 3 (Rare may make me want to miss this one, but hopefully they can get it right).

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Gamer46"]

[QUOTE="Tristam22"][QUOTE="Gamer46"]As much as it bothers me, the Wii is on a better pace than both 360 and PS3, let alone Nintendo's last two home consoles. And stop with this "future proof" crap Sony feeds you. If people cared about power, PSone and 2 wouldn't have won the last two gens, period. I think a better argument is the future lineups for each console. To me, 360 and PS3 both have outstanding future lineups, Nintendo's is full of "games" that appeal to a far different crowd, but right now, it's looking like their strategy is going pay off, which is unfortunate. Also, I saw, somebody mention how Sony and MS may release controllers similar to what the Wii has. I agree, but they probably (hopefully) won't make them standard until the next round of consoles. Even still, I've yet to see how the Wii remote makes games better than traditional controllers. Not one FPS on Wii is better than Rainbow Six: Vegas or F.E.A.R.Gamer46

Red Steel was made by Ubisoft, you can say what you want, but they are a well regarded developer and RS SUCKED compared to what you can get on other consoles. I'll give you MP 3, it will be phenomenal, but I don't think it's going to make me want to stay away from Halo 3. RE: UC... I'm not sold on this one at all, but it's Capcom, so I'll play it before judging.

Damage control at its finest. And I've yet to play games in other genres that make me say "I don't want to go back." I'm looking forward to playing Super Mario Galaxy, but it's not going to make me want to miss out on Ratchet and Clank Future or Banjo 3 (Rare may make me want to miss this one, but hopefully they can get it right).

You wanted a game made ground up for the Wii, I gave you one. Until I see actual proof that Wii can do FPS better than PS3, 360, or PC, I'm not going to believe that it can.Gamer46

[QUOTE="Gamer46"]You wanted a game made ground up for the Wii, I gave you one. Until I see actual proof that Wii can do FPS better than PS3, 360, or PC, I'm not going to believe that it can.Tristam22

I need to see it to believe it.  And frankly, it seems to me you and your fellow sheep are banking on this game making people forget about Halo 3 and other FPS coming to 360, and PS3. That's far less wise than me telling it like it is right now.  I don't live in the future, I live in the present, and at this time, nothing suggests to me that Wii is the machine to get for FPS.

[QUOTE="Tristam22"][QUOTE="Gamer46"]You wanted a game made ground up for the Wii, I gave you one. Until I see actual proof that Wii can do FPS better than PS3, 360, or PC, I'm not going to believe that it can.Gamer46

I need to see it to believe it. And frankly, it seems to me you and your fellow sheep are banking on this game making people forget about Halo 3 and other FPS coming to 360, and PS3. That's far less wise than me telling it like it is right now. I don't live in the future, I live in the present, and at this time, nothing suggests to me that Wii is the machine to get for FPS.

[QUOTE="Tristam22"][QUOTE="Gamer46"]You wanted a game made ground up for the Wii, I gave you one. Until I see actual proof that Wii can do FPS better than PS3, 360, or PC, I'm not going to believe that it can.Gamer46

I need to see it to believe it.  And frankly, it seems to me you and your fellow sheep are banking on this game making people forget about Halo 3 and other FPS coming to 360, and PS3. That's far less wise than me telling it like it is right now.  I don't live in the future, I live in the present, and at this time, nothing suggests to me that Wii is the machine to get for FPS.

That sort of argument would make it seem "sheepish" when everyone hyped up Halo 2 before it came out(which was a major single-player let-down) and how everyone is hyping Halo 3.

Both MP and MP2 have delivered the goods with flying colors.

[QUOTE="Gamer46"]

[QUOTE="Tristam22"][QUOTE="Gamer46"]You wanted a game made ground up for the Wii, I gave you one. Until I see actual proof that Wii can do FPS better than PS3, 360, or PC, I'm not going to believe that it can.Maelkav

I need to see it to believe it. And frankly, it seems to me you and your fellow sheep are banking on this game making people forget about Halo 3 and other FPS coming to 360, and PS3. That's far less wise than me telling it like it is right now. I don't live in the future, I live in the present, and at this time, nothing suggests to me that Wii is the machine to get for FPS.

That sort of argument would make it seem "sheepish" when everyone hyped up Halo 2 before it came out(which was a major single-player let-down) and how everyone is hyping Halo 3.

Both MP and MP2 have delivered the goods with flying colors.

 And yet due to the aweseome online experience Halo 2 topped MP2's score here at GS.  My money is Halo again.

[QUOTE="Maelkav"][

 And yet due to the aweseome online experience Halo 2 topped MP2's score here at GS.  My money is Halo again.

Gamer46

:lol:

Using GS as your guideline is like using your 5-year-old sister to determine the year's Oscar winners...

[QUOTE="Gamer46"]

[QUOTE="Tristam22"][QUOTE="Gamer46"]You wanted a game made ground up for the Wii, I gave you one. Until I see actual proof that Wii can do FPS better than PS3, 360, or PC, I'm not going to believe that it can.Tristam22

I need to see it to believe it. And frankly, it seems to me you and your fellow sheep are banking on this game making people forget about Halo 3 and other FPS coming to 360, and PS3. That's far less wise than me telling it like it is right now. I don't live in the future, I live in the present, and at this time, nothing suggests to me that Wii is the machine to get for FPS.

First of all, I didn't say the game wasn't going to rock, I'm a Metroid fan, I'm getting the game.  But to act like it's the end all be all is fanboyish. Especially when it's yet to be proven that Wii is the way to go with this genre.

[QUOTE="Tristam22"][QUOTE="Gamer46"]

[QUOTE="Tristam22"][QUOTE="Gamer46"]You wanted a game made ground up for the Wii, I gave you one. Until I see actual proof that Wii can do FPS better than PS3, 360, or PC, I'm not going to believe that it can.Gamer46

I need to see it to believe it. And frankly, it seems to me you and your fellow sheep are banking on this game making people forget about Halo 3 and other FPS coming to 360, and PS3. That's far less wise than me telling it like it is right now. I don't live in the future, I live in the present, and at this time, nothing suggests to me that Wii is the machine to get for FPS.

First of all, I didn't say the game wasn't going to rock, I'm a Metroid fan, I'm getting the game. But to act like it's the end all be all is fanboyish. Especially when it's yet to be proven that Wii is the way to go with this genre.

[QUOTE="Gamer46"][QUOTE="Maelkav"][

And yet due to the aweseome online experience Halo 2 topped MP2's score here at GS. My money is Halo again.

Maelkav

:lol:

Using GS as your guideline is like using your 5-year-old sister to determine the year's Oscar winners...

Gamerankings.com:

Halo 2- 94.6%

MP2- 92.2%

 Truthfully, I was disappointed in both games single player wise, but Halo 2 had online to make up for it.  I give each company the benefit of the doubt though, because many times I don't enjoy the second installment of a series as much I did the first, unless it's a racing game or something like Guitar Hero, where it's easier to make improvements.

[QUOTE="Gamer46"][QUOTE="Tristam22"][QUOTE="Gamer46"]

[QUOTE="Tristam22"][QUOTE="Gamer46"]You wanted a game made ground up for the Wii, I gave you one. Until I see actual proof that Wii can do FPS better than PS3, 360, or PC, I'm not going to believe that it can.Tristam22

I need to see it to believe it. And frankly, it seems to me you and your fellow sheep are banking on this game making people forget about Halo 3 and other FPS coming to 360, and PS3. That's far less wise than me telling it like it is right now. I don't live in the future, I live in the present, and at this time, nothing suggests to me that Wii is the machine to get for FPS.

First of all, I didn't say the game wasn't going to rock, I'm a Metroid fan, I'm getting the game. But to act like it's the end all be all is fanboyish. Especially when it's yet to be proven that Wii is the way to go with this genre.

Yeah, I get it.  I hope you're right.  Seeing as how MP 3: C is a BIG (granted it's not the only) reason I went with the Wii over the PS3, I'd be disappointed if it doesn't turn out to be in-your-face awesome.

[QUOTE="Maelkav"][QUOTE="Gamer46"][QUOTE="Maelkav"][

And yet due to the aweseome online experience Halo 2 topped MP2's score here at GS. My money is Halo again.

Gamer46

:lol:

Using GS as your guideline is like using your 5-year-old sister to determine the year's Oscar winners...

Gamerankings.com:

Halo 2- 94.6%

MP2- 92.2%

2.4% difference.

:?

You sure owned me. I was wrong. Halo 2 was way better...

[QUOTE="Gamer46"][QUOTE="Maelkav"][QUOTE="Gamer46"][QUOTE="Maelkav"][

And yet due to the aweseome online experience Halo 2 topped MP2's score here at GS. My money is Halo again.

Maelkav

:lol:

Using GS as your guideline is like using your 5-year-old sister to determine the year's Oscar winners...

Gamerankings.com:

Halo 2- 94.6%

MP2- 92.2%

2.4% difference.

:?

You sure owned me. I was wrong. Halo 2 was way better...

Not way better, but it was better. 

[QUOTE="Maelkav"][QUOTE="Gamer46"][QUOTE="Maelkav"][QUOTE="Gamer46"][QUOTE="Maelkav"][

And yet due to the aweseome online experience Halo 2 topped MP2's score here at GS. My money is Halo again.

Gamer46

:lol:

Using GS as your guideline is like using your 5-year-old sister to determine the year's Oscar winners...

Gamerankings.com:

Halo 2- 94.6%

MP2- 92.2%

2.4% difference.

:?

You sure owned me. I was wrong. Halo 2 was way better...

Not way better, but it was better. 

[QUOTE="Tristam22"][QUOTE="Gamer46"][QUOTE="Tristam22"][QUOTE="Gamer46"]

[QUOTE="Tristam22"][QUOTE="Gamer46"]You wanted a game made ground up for the Wii, I gave you one. Until I see actual proof that Wii can do FPS better than PS3, 360, or PC, I'm not going to believe that it can.Gamer46

I need to see it to believe it. And frankly, it seems to me you and your fellow sheep are banking on this game making people forget about Halo 3 and other FPS coming to 360, and PS3. That's far less wise than me telling it like it is right now. I don't live in the future, I live in the present, and at this time, nothing suggests to me that Wii is the machine to get for FPS.

First of all, I didn't say the game wasn't going to rock, I'm a Metroid fan, I'm getting the game. But to act like it's the end all be all is fanboyish. Especially when it's yet to be proven that Wii is the way to go with this genre.

Yeah, I get it. I hope you're right. Seeing as how MP 3: C is a BIG (granted it's not the only) reason I went with the Wii over the PS3, I'd be disappointed if it doesn't turn out to be in-your-face awesome.

[QUOTE="Gamer46"][QUOTE="Tristam22"][QUOTE="Gamer46"][QUOTE="Tristam22"][QUOTE="Gamer46"]

[QUOTE="Tristam22"][QUOTE="Gamer46"]You wanted a game made ground up for the Wii, I gave you one. Until I see actual proof that Wii can do FPS better than PS3, 360, or PC, I'm not going to believe that it can.Tristam22

I need to see it to believe it. And frankly, it seems to me you and your fellow sheep are banking on this game making people forget about Halo 3 and other FPS coming to 360, and PS3. That's far less wise than me telling it like it is right now. I don't live in the future, I live in the present, and at this time, nothing suggests to me that Wii is the machine to get for FPS.

First of all, I didn't say the game wasn't going to rock, I'm a Metroid fan, I'm getting the game. But to act like it's the end all be all is fanboyish. Especially when it's yet to be proven that Wii is the way to go with this genre.

Yeah, I get it. I hope you're right. Seeing as how MP 3: C is a BIG (granted it's not the only) reason I went with the Wii over the PS3, I'd be disappointed if it doesn't turn out to be in-your-face awesome.

Cool, hopefully we get the game this year. 

Gamecube died fairly quickly in Japan, sinking to sub-20k sales per week. Gamecube sold only a bit over a million per year in Europe, and even then sank lower after that. North America was the only place the Gamecube at all sold decently, and even then it was constantly outsold by the competition. I don't understand where people seem to have gotten the idea that the Gamecube sold well for a while, unless by "a while" you mean like the first two weeks or something. Ultimate_Peon

Guess what other platform just sunk sub-20k?  It's the TC's future-proof precious.  It is over in Japan.  over.