In a perfect world, would you still want multiple systems or just 1?

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#1 jhcho2
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Having multiple competitors in a market is a characteristic of an imperfect world. In a perfect world, there would be only 1 console, if any at all.

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#2 finalstar2007
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This gen tought me to only stay to one system/brand only and that PlayStation so next gen its going to be PlayStation only

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#3 Ultrabeatdown55
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With that 1 system every company would be making games for that only so there is no exclusives and Mario/Uncharted/Halo would all be on this one console.

I realize this would destroy System Wars as a topic of discusion because there would be no need for it, but I'm just curious to what people want.

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Are we assuming that the monopolist is benevolent, as it should be in a perfect world? Because if it is, then sure, why not.
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#5 R3FURBISHED
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Diversity, yo
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#6 josephl64
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in a truly perfect world...sure, why not?

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#7 Ly_the_Fairy
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One single system would be the best, or rather any electronics maker can make whatever (handheld, console, or whatever) that are compatible with all games.

Then it'd be similar to blu-ray players, and mp3 players where you only have to buy one, and you get access to everything.

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I realize this would destroy System Wars as a topic of discusion because there would be no need for itUltrabeatdown55
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#9 TheWalkingGhost
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Are we assuming that the monopolist is benevolent, as it should be in a perfect world? Because if it is, then sure, why not.

PC.
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#10 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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Just one open platform.
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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]Are we assuming that the monopolist is benevolent, as it should be in a perfect world? Because if it is, then sure, why not.

PC.

It would be like the PC market; the PC however is not what the OP is talking about, since his post explicitly mentions the need for no exclusive games (and there are games that are not available on PC). Basically if all console makers decided to release PC games, then yeah.
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#12 ShadowDeathX
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If it were a console, it would have to be an open standard console, like the 3DO. If no consoles and just PC, then that would be fine. :)
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#13 whiskeystrike
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If it could transform into something portable or stationary, hook up to any TV or monitor, can magically spawn a keyboard or controller and plays all games released in the world without hurting the industry, then yes, also full BC with any game ever released and all digital of course. 

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#14 jg4xchamp
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One system with all the games please.
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#15 Ly_the_Fairy
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If it could transform into something portable or stationary, hook up to any TV or monitor, can magically spawn a keyboard or controller and plays all games released in the world without hurting the industry, then yes, also full BC with any game ever released and all digital of course. 

whiskeystrike

Sounds like the PC, but companies like Sony, Nintendo, and MS are getting in the way of our gaming utopia.

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#16 Bigboi500
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One system, as long as it had multiple options for the controls, and was user-friendly.

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#17 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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Is the principle of how competition makes any industry thrive always this easily forgotten?

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#18 ShadowDeathX
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Is the principle of how competition makes any industry thrive always this easily forgotten?

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That is why an open standard platform is key. :)
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#19 whiskeystrike
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[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

If it could transform into something portable or stationary, hook up to any TV or monitor, can magically spawn a keyboard or controller and plays all games released in the world without hurting the industry, then yes, also full BC with any game ever released and all digital of course. 

Ly_the_Fairy

Sounds like the PC, but companies like Sony, Nintendo, and MS are getting in the way of our gaming utopia.

Well hopefully PC continues its recent trend of increasing Japanese support. Can't say I care much for many first party games besides Zelda, Metroid and Fire Emblem but there are a lot of Japanese games that seeminly have no chance of ever making it to PC outside of emulators. 

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#20 Ly_the_Fairy
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[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

If it could transform into something portable or stationary, hook up to any TV or monitor, can magically spawn a keyboard or controller and plays all games released in the world without hurting the industry, then yes, also full BC with any game ever released and all digital of course. 

whiskeystrike

Sounds like the PC, but companies like Sony, Nintendo, and MS are getting in the way of our gaming utopia.

Well hopefully PC continues its recent trend of increasing Japanese support. Can't say I care much for many first party games besides Zelda, Metroid and Fire Emblem but there are a lot of Japanese games that seeminly have no chance of ever making it to PC outside of emulators. 

Check out the greenlight on Steam. I've seen Japanese games in there a couple times. I think given the size of Japanese devs/publishers they're kind of required to go through greenlight like any other small/indie dev, but once they get in they're in as far as I know.

For example right now there's a game on greenlight called Agarest: Generations of War. I know it's already out in the west, but it's there, and I don't think I've seen any other Compile Heart game on Steam. 

I try to give support if I can since even if I don't particularly care for a game I know I've got a couple friends that do. In the last year Steam has gained the support of Xseed, and Nihon Falcom though, so hopefully more will keep coming.

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#21 whiskeystrike
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[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

Sounds like the PC, but companies like Sony, Nintendo, and MS are getting in the way of our gaming utopia.

Ly_the_Fairy

Well hopefully PC continues its recent trend of increasing Japanese support. Can't say I care much for many first party games besides Zelda, Metroid and Fire Emblem but there are a lot of Japanese games that seeminly have no chance of ever making it to PC outside of emulators. 

Check out the greenlight on Steam. I've seen Japanese games in there a couple times. I think given the size of Japanese devs/publishers they're kind of required to go through greenlight like any other small/indie dev, but once they get in they're in as far as I know.

For example right now there's a game on greenlight called Agarest: Generations of War. I know it's already out in the west, but it's there, and I don't think I've seen any other Compile Heart game on Steam. 

I try to give support if I can since even if I don't particularly care for a game I know I've got a couple friends that do. In the last year Steam has gained the support of Xseed, and Nihon Falcom though, so hopefully more will keep coming.

Yeah I've heard of Agarest. Was initially a PS3 game I think.

The Ys games seem to have done very well on Steam. The market is there but I think it's just a matter of treading on unfamiliar ground for Japanese devs. I'm hoping the x86 architecture of the PS4 means we'll see some more support on PC by effect but that's only hoping of course.

The day games like Catherine, Nier, Tales, Kingdom Hearts, Persona, Final Fantasy, etc are on PC is the day I no longer buy a console :P

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Is the principle of how competition makes any industry thrive always this easily forgotten?

AdobeArtist

A perfect world would cover this, no?

In all honesty, whatever.

 

 

 

 

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]Are we assuming that the monopolist is benevolent, as it should be in a perfect world? Because if it is, then sure, why not.

PC.

It would be like the PC market; the PC however is not what the OP is talking about, since his post explicitly mentions the need for no exclusive games (and there are games that are not available on PC). Basically if all console makers decided to release PC games, then yeah.

PC is probably the closest we'd get as of right now seeing as Nintendo/360 games almost always end up on the PC in some form, Sony PS3 games probably would too if it weren't for the infrastructure of the system. Anyway I'd say type PC model would be the best. Allow multiple systems/mix and match parts, but all games are able to play on all rigs, unless games become too technically advanced for the rig and then it's just a matter of upgrading parts, not throwing out the entire console.
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#24 fernandmondego_
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It's called PC. It would be awesome if the big 3 went third party and put all their games on PC (I suppose Microsoft would still be first party).
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#25 mems_1224
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Now that I have a PC I might just stick to whatever console most of my friends play on. I might get a WiiU too if Nintendo gives it a few good exclusives

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#26 JamDev
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A single system sounds great in theory, but competition drives innovation, we would be generations behind without it.
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#27 joel_c17
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I will always buy the Nintendo and Sony console. Personally I think MS could leave the gaming market it wouldn't have much of an effect
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#28 The_Power_of_X
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I would stay with just one. Video Games are just a hobby for me so "diversity" means nothing to me when it comes to hardware.  

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#29 pelvist
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Unless something really amazing happens, which it probably wont, then I wont buy another console again. There are more than enough games and hobbies to keep me entertained on the PC. "But what about the exclusives?" You say? The PC has more than its fair share of exclusives too and TBH the exclusives on consoles always end up being at least slightly disappointing to me. These days all of the best games are multi platform with the exception of a few PC genres you cant really get anywhere else ( ARMA, SCII, Total War ect ) and those multi platform games are always best on PC too. The PS3 and 360 didnt really give me anything worth buying them for, I honestly felt like I wasted money on them and I doubt that will change with the next batch of consoles. The last console I really enjoeyed playing was the Dreamcast.

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#30 rickliao
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perfect world
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#31 the_bi99man
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The handful of exclusive games is the only reason to have anything but a PC, but I don't think there's any need to consolidate. With only one system, rather than several; with no exclusive games; no competition, there would just be less drive for great games, and overall advancements to the industry.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]Are we assuming that the monopolist is benevolent, as it should be in a perfect world? Because if it is, then sure, why not.

PC.

It would be like the PC market; the PC however is not what the OP is talking about, since his post explicitly mentions the need for no exclusive games (and there are games that are not available on PC). Basically if all console makers decided to release PC games, then yeah.

It fit perfectly with the OP. Having the PC be the only one on the market would better because no one company can own it or control how games are made and put on it. I mention PC because in 10 to 20 years that maybe the case as PC parts become cheaper and future generations become more and more technologically inclined. I have been a console gamer for life, but anybody can see where the industry is going.
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#33 Lucianu
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Obviously one that can do it all. That's why the lack of love for BC in SW is disturbing. Instead of keeping your old systems, wouldn't you rather have one that can, literally, play everything ? Ofcourse you would, it's basic convinience. 

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So in the world I design, I get to decide if i want to spend hundreds more on a second and possibly third console for exclucive games or keep every game on one console ... hmmm yup 1 console please. unfortnately this is an imperfect world and one console wouldnt work.

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#35 wazzap76
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I only ever buy one system. I don't feel its necessary to have two machines that play games waste of money IMO. I have a computer if I ever need to switch or want to.
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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

Is the principle of how competition makes any industry thrive always this easily forgotten?

mccoyca112

A perfect world would cover this, no?

In all honesty, whatever.

A perfect world would cover that. By having it. Competition making an idustry thrive is a perfect world. 

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#37 OneInchMan99
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I only need one system anyway,Playstation provides all I need.I'm glad M$ and Nintendo are around though to keep Sony on their toes.

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#38 Pikminmaniac
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I would rather there be multiple systems for healthy competition. If Nintendo got all the 3rd party support, I wouldn't have to get more than one console... It's as simple as that

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Are we assuming that the monopolist is benevolent, as it should be in a perfect world? Because if it is, then sure, why not.

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#40 campzor
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multiple systems with 1 dominating everything.
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#41 TheEroica  Moderator
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multiple systems with 1 dominating everything.campzor
in YOUR idea of a perfect world thats what you came up with? Not, one console where you get to play every game and the industry isnt affected? It is your perfect world ya know...
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#42 locopatho
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Id like a console that played everything yes. PC doesn't come close, misses way too many 1st party console games and plenty of multiplats like Red Dead Redemption too
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#43 Obviously_Right
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This gen tought me to only stay to one system/brand only and that PlayStation so next gen its going to be PlayStation only

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#44 Minishdriveby
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Yes, having a single platform with all games would be nice.

The PC is nearly there, it has all console multiplats with PC exclusives. The only thing it's missing is console exclusives, but most of them aren't very good anyway.

Cyberdot

It has a lot of those too, or at least Nintendo games. It's fairly resourceful.

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#45 Ultrabeatdown55
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[QUOTE="Ultrabeatdown55"][QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]Also: There is no such thing as perfection.Goyoshi12

Not the point.

Uh....yeah kind of the point if you're talking about "In a perfect world..."

No, that is not the point of this thread. I didn't say this was reality. Obviously a perfect world is unrealistc but that is not what the discussion is about here.

So yeah, definitely not the point.

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#46 rrjim1
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

This gen tought me to only stay to one system/brand only and that PlayStation so next gen its going to be PlayStation only

Obviously_Right

That's because you can't afford to buy more than one!

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Is the principle of how competition makes any industry thrive always this easily forgotten?

AdobeArtist

If it was one standard like DVD and Blu-ray theoretically it would keep the competition but they wouldn't have exclusives.

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#48 SchnabbleTab
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In a Perfect World, everyone would play on PS4 and we wouldn't have to worry about dirt like the kinectbox or the SheepU.
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#49 Cyberdot
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Yes, having a single platform with all games would be nice.

The PC is nearly there, it has all console multiplats with PC exclusives. The only thing it's missing is console exclusives, but most of them aren't very good anyway.

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#50 Ultrabeatdown55
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Is the principle of how competition makes any industry thrive always this easily forgotten?

AdobeArtist
Thats why I said in a perfect world where that would be unnecessary :P