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#1 tutt3r
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MW2 scored a 94 on metacritic and a 9 here on gamespot giving it AAA status. This means that reviewers everywhere were pleased with cod and thought it was a good game.

The campaign which everyone rags on for being so short is actually perfect at the 5 hr mark. Its been said before why make a game thats 12 hours with only 5 hours of real content and 7 hours of fluff and repetition. As a action game, its important to have a lot of things happening and if you were to keep the high pacing for 10+ hours, after a while the "plot twists" would become expected and not have as huge of an impact. Also some say the cod storyline is over the top and just rediculous, but honestly tell me one game that isnt.

Even if you felt you were gimped on the campaign, Spec-ops is a great addition to cod. Instead of copying treryarchs popular zombie mode, IW made a just as equally addicting coop mode. There is a huge amount of replayability that extends the playtime making up for short campaign.

Multiplayer is a huge component for cod and no one can say they failed to deliver content wise. They have a wide variety of guns, attatchments, gametypes, etc. than what most devs have. Sure maybe you have some problems with some design choices, but nothing there that completely breaks the online. There isn't one game where someone doesn't complain about certain guns, maps, equipment, etc. As you get well adjusted with cod, or any game for that matter, you learn how to handle or counter those things you have a problem with.

The matchmaking that people compain about is better than 90% of online console games out there. It matches you up quickly and alows easy partying up and does a fairly good job of choosing host. Other console games have persistent lag and isnt as smooth or as quick to finding a game like cod.

The glitches and bugs are expected from a big game. Exploitation of games is not new and has always been a part of gaming. When playing big games its expected to run into more people who choose to cheat. And people seem to exxagerate the amount of cheaters and glitches in this game, there are far more games without cheaters than there are with.

People are angry over no beta and thats why there were so many things wrong with the online that could have been prevented. Very few games have betas and its completely up to the dev whether or not to have one, its not something we as gamers are owed.

PC gamers are angry over lack of dedicated servers, however I own both pc and xbox versions of the game and the pc version is not as bad as people make it out to be. Sure you get your laggy games, but be honest having dedicated servers does not get rid of lag. I play a lot of online games and people still lag on dedicated. Also not every pc game supports dedicated servers. Once again its completely the devs choice on how they want to present a game, nothing is owed to you.

Those who complained its a reskinned cod is wrong and they have obviously done more than they are given credit. Its a sequel not a new IP so you wouldn't expect something radically different. To do so would be silly. U2, Halo reach, BFBC2, GOW3, SMG2 are all sequels and all handle very similar to their predecessors and they don't add any more content than IW did to their games.

You not liking a game =/= a bad game

The graphics people say are sooooo bad. Sure they are sub hd, but most "next gen" games are anyway. And running a smooth 60 fps really makes a difference over 30 fps. And to have a consistent 60 fps is a huge feat. I would take cod's sub-hd 60 fps over barely 720p 20-30 fps

Having a coop and online mode is more than most devs do. They did give you enough content for your money, whereas some expect you to pay 60 bucks for a 12 hour game you may play through once.

$15 dollars for 5 maps, 2 of which are old maps. Halo had $10 dollars for 3 new maps as well as many other games. Some games like socom, MAG, expect just as much as cod. So while pricing may be a bit high and work of a greddy publisher, its isnt as outrageous when compared to somegames.

Now you not liking a game is all personal preference and you are entitled to your opinion, however to say the game is a bad game is unfair. I may hate MGS4, however that does not in no way make it a bad game. I still appreciate it for the things it does, however I will not play the game again. Same for cod if you don't like it, fine. But it isnt the abomination people make it out to be.

Of course cod isnt perfect and I too have my problems with it, but this game is a solid game and those who say its the worst game ever is being unfair.

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#2 DethSkematik
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Personally, the length of the campaign didn't bother me...that cliffhanger did, though :x.
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#3 Mograine
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but be honest having dedicated servers does not get rid of lag.

tutt3r

Stopped reading there.

You obviously have no idea of what "lag" means.

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#4 tutt3r
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[QUOTE="tutt3r"] but be honest having dedicated servers does not get rid of lag.

Mograine

Stopped reading there.

You obviously have no idea of what "lag" means.

yeah its playing on a server where i have less tahn 100 ping and everyone else has upper 200 to 300 ping running their game at settings their computers cannot handle so they have framerate issues on top of latency issues.

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#5 shane_orija
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If you enjoy playing a particular game, should it matter what others say?
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#6 Iantheone
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You not liking a game =/= a bad gametutt3r
But it does when a large amount of people agree with you. There is a reason why it is so hated around here.
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#7 chris_yz80
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[QUOTE="Mograine"]

[QUOTE="tutt3r"] but be honest having dedicated servers does not get rid of lag.

tutt3r

Stopped reading there.

You obviously have no idea of what "lag" means.

yeah its playing on a server where i have less tahn 100 ping and everyone else has upper 200 to 300 ping running their game at settings their computers cannot handle so they have framerate issues on top of latency issues.

he obviously hasnt played HoN in aus whre there are no servers, its much worse than dota latency wise, just to put dedicated servers into some more realistic perspective
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#8 Mograine
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yeah its playing on a server where i have less tahn 100 ping and everyone else has upper 200 to 300 ping running their game at settings their computers cannot handle so they have framerate issues on top of latency issues.

tutt3r

"crap happens exactly when I want it to happen", huh?

Too bad what you said, in fact, NEVER happened.

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#9 Iantheone
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[QUOTE="tutt3r"]

[QUOTE="Mograine"]

Stopped reading there.

You obviously have no idea of what "lag" means.

chris_yz80

yeah its playing on a server where i have less tahn 100 ping and everyone else has upper 200 to 300 ping running their game at settings their computers cannot handle so they have framerate issues on top of latency issues.

he obviously hasnt played HoN in aus whre there are no servers, its much worse than dota latency wise, just to put dedicated servers into some more realistic perspective

Are you saying that Australia doesnt get any dedicated servers?
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#10 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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There is a reason why it is so hated around here.Iantheone
It's easy to jump on hate bandwagons.

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#11 chris_yz80
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[QUOTE="chris_yz80"][QUOTE="tutt3r"]

yeah its playing on a server where i have less tahn 100 ping and everyone else has upper 200 to 300 ping running their game at settings their computers cannot handle so they have framerate issues on top of latency issues.

Iantheone

he obviously hasnt played HoN in aus whre there are no servers, its much worse than dota latency wise, just to put dedicated servers into some more realistic perspective

Are you saying that Australia doesnt get any dedicated servers?

no, im not saying that at all, i do have MW and there are plenty of aus dedicated servers, im just saying that dedicated servers are not al they are cracked up to be

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#12 metroidprime55
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About the map packs, if you look back at CoD4 they had one map pack that gave you four maps for $10 at a time when most map packs were three maps for $10, they gave you a free map and they were all new. Now you get to pay extra for something you already own.

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#13 Anjunaddict
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[QUOTE="tutt3r"]You not liking a game =/= a bad gameIantheone
But it does when a large amount of people agree with you. There is a reason why it is so hated around here.

Eh, if you ask me that hate is unjustified.
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#14 Mograine
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no, im not saying that at all, i do have MW and there are plenty of aus dedicated servers, im just saying that dedicated servers are not al they are cracked up to be

chris_yz80

Constant latency between 60-100 with no hiccups and no dependancy on the host's connection

Up to 64 players in game at the same time

Rules enforcement

Not all they are cracked up to be? Yeah, all I've mentioned is obviously meaningless...

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#15 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="tutt3r"] but be honest having dedicated servers does not get rid of lag.

Mograine

Stopped reading there.

You obviously have no idea of what "lag" means.

Lag will always exist unless you're running fiber optics...
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It's a good game. The glitches and unbalanced weapons killed it though, I couldn't stand it after 3 months of playing.
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[QUOTE="tutt3r"] but be honest having dedicated servers does not get rid of lag.

Mograine

Stopped reading there.

You obviously have no idea of what "lag" means.

Agreed. Fail thread anyways. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, whether its initial reviews were high, is a noob filled - and in the case of PC and Xbox 360, hacker filled - game. The Story was pretty good, it wasn't the BEST story in a game, but it was fun and entertaining. The length of the campaign wasn't that much of a big deal to me. I've put in heaps of hours into the online, and I've finished the Spec-ops as well. I'm sorry but..."counter those things you have a problem with"....what? May I ask what other solution you have to dodge a noob tuber with danger close? Other than to shoot him/her first that is. Are you kidding me? Does a fairly good job at picking host? Sometimes when I'm in a party with up to five other people, we get hosts that might be from the otherside of the country for all I know. I would like a game without hackers in the first place. This relates to your "awesome matching making system" by the way. As I can be in a game with a hacker, I get back out of the game and then when I try and search for a new match...oh no...back in the hacker game. I don't want to wait, and I don't want to play another game mode. I like domination. Dedicated Servers > P2P. Okay? Cool. IWNet servers are rubbish. All PC games might not have dedicated servers for online, but they do a better job at it with what they have to work with. I would of thought the extra money that people have been paying for OVERPRICED DLC and not to mention the actual game was more expensive than the standard, well...I would of expected more from their servers. Especially seeing as the Online is where it is at. MW2 should of gotten an 8.5, 8.0. You must understand that something is up with the game when the majority of gamers say it's bad, whether compared to previous games in the series or other series entirely.
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#18 chris_yz80
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[QUOTE="chris_yz80"]

no, im not saying that at all, i do have MW and there are plenty of aus dedicated servers, im just saying that dedicated servers are not al they are cracked up to be

Mograine

Constant latency between 60-100 with no hiccups and no dependancy on the host's connection

Up to 64 players in game at the same time

Rules enforcement

Not all they are cracked up to be? Yeah, all I've mentioned is obviously meaningless...

nah it doesnt quite work like that in real life, yes thre is no host dependecy but latency still exists, the other points are not really relevant. Heres an example person A lives at location x, he is host, person b and c live roughly the same distance apart at a distance of y but in opposite directions, it takes each of them 50ms to send and recieve a signal with person A. which is very good latency. Alternatively person B has a server set up in his house, it takes A 50ms to send and recieve a signal based on the previous assumptions, C takes 100ms, person B experiances no latency issues. This scenario puts 1 person at more of a disadvantage than alternative A and real life is not this neat which can amplify the problem (yes alternatively it can produce latency for all but someone still has an advantage over everoyne else)
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#19 tutt3r
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[QUOTE="chris_yz80"]

no, im not saying that at all, i do have MW and there are plenty of aus dedicated servers, im just saying that dedicated servers are not al they are cracked up to be

Mograine

Constant latency between 60-100 with no hiccups and no dependancy on the host's connection

Up to 64 players in game at the same time

Rules enforcement

Not all they are cracked up to be? Yeah, all I've mentioned is obviously meaningless...

yes i've played bf2 and i know about 64 player games, but even then people lag. And still more players does not make for a better game necissarily. I am not downplaying dedicated at all. and i am glad that there are dedicated servers, but to completely pass up on a good game is quite rediculous. The IW net is by no means perfect and dedicated is prefered, however it still works and works quite fine actually

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#20 mgs_freak91
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[QUOTE="Mograine"]

[QUOTE="tutt3r"] but be honest having dedicated servers does not get rid of lag.

Stevo_the_gamer

Stopped reading there.

You obviously have no idea of what "lag" means.

Lag will always exist unless you're running fiber optics...

Dedicated servers does a very good job in reducing lag. It might not get rid of all lag. But still.
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#21 mgs_freak91
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[QUOTE="Mograine"]

[QUOTE="chris_yz80"]

no, im not saying that at all, i do have MW and there are plenty of aus dedicated servers, im just saying that dedicated servers are not al they are cracked up to be

tutt3r

Constant latency between 60-100 with no hiccups and no dependancy on the host's connection

Up to 64 players in game at the same time

Rules enforcement

Not all they are cracked up to be? Yeah, all I've mentioned is obviously meaningless...

yes i've played bf2 and i know about 64 player games, but even then people lag. And still more players does not make for a better game necissarily. I am not downplaying dedicated at all. and i am glad that there are dedicated servers, but to completely pass up on a good game is quite rediculous. The IW net is by no means perfect and dedicated is prefered, however it still works and works quite fine actually

I don't really care so much about the no dedicated servers. But it is annoying when host has advantage in a game like Modern Warfare 2. I would like to be host, or have such a crappy connection that I lag around to get kills >.>
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[QUOTE="tutt3r"]

[QUOTE="Mograine"]

Constant latency between 60-100 with no hiccups and no dependancy on the host's connection

Up to 64 players in game at the same time

Rules enforcement

Not all they are cracked up to be? Yeah, all I've mentioned is obviously meaningless...

mgs_freak91

yes i've played bf2 and i know about 64 player games, but even then people lag. And still more players does not make for a better game necissarily. I am not downplaying dedicated at all. and i am glad that there are dedicated servers, but to completely pass up on a good game is quite rediculous. The IW net is by no means perfect and dedicated is prefered, however it still works and works quite fine actually

I don't really care so much about the no dedicated servers. But it is annoying when host has advantage in a game like Modern Warfare 2. I would like to be host, or have such a crappy connection that I lag around to get kills >.>

someone will always have an advantage though
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#23 Vesica_Prime
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Mograine"]

Stopped reading there.

You obviously have no idea of what "lag" means.

mgs_freak91

Lag will always exist unless you're running fiber optics...

Dedicated servers does a very good job in reducing lag. It might not get rid of all lag. But still.

This and the fact that you don't have to transfer hosts.

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#24 PAL360
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I think it´s a bit overhyped/rated but it´s still a good game. The single player is good but multiplayer wise i think it doesnt come close to Bad Company 2.

It´s hated because some ppl think it´s cool to hate high rated games. Oblivion and GTA4 are just 2 examples of it.

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#25 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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I think it´s a bit overhyped/rated but it´s still a good game. The single player is good but multiplayer wise i think it doesnt come close to Bad Company 2.>PAL360

Egh, I own both and I still prefer MW2 over BC2. Comes down to personal preference in the end.
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cod>halo.. yup i said it

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#27 Overlord93
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no dedicated servers/mods = angry PC community

angry PC community points out more reasons why the game sucks to console community. console community hates game.

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#28 Aboogie5
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no dedicated servers/mods = angry PC community

angry PC community points out more reasons why the game sucks to console community. console community hates game.

Overlord93

i doubt 3/4 of the ps3 community who play mw2 give a crap about pc's problems with the game, i know i dont.

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#29 tutt3r
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[QUOTE="Mograine"]

[QUOTE="tutt3r"] but be honest having dedicated servers does not get rid of lag.

mgs_freak91

Stopped reading there.

You obviously have no idea of what "lag" means.

Agreed. Fail thread anyways. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, whether its initial reviews were high, is a noob filled - and in the case of PC and Xbox 360, hacker filled - game. The Story was pretty good, it wasn't the BEST story in a game, but it was fun and entertaining. The length of the campaign wasn't that much of a big deal to me. I've put in heaps of hours into the online, and I've finished the Spec-ops as well. I'm sorry but..."counter those things you have a problem with"....what? May I ask what other solution you have to dodge a noob tuber with danger close? Other than to shoot him/her first that is. Are you kidding me? Does a fairly good job at picking host? Sometimes when I'm in a party with up to five other people, we get hosts that might be from the otherside of the country for all I know. I would like a game without hackers in the first place. This relates to your "awesome matching making system" by the way. As I can be in a game with a hacker, I get back out of the game and then when I try and search for a new match...oh no...back in the hacker game. I don't want to wait, and I don't want to play another game mode. I like domination. Dedicated Servers > P2P. Okay? Cool. IWNet servers are rubbish. All PC games might not have dedicated servers for online, but they do a better job at it with what they have to work with. I would of thought the extra money that people have been paying for OVERPRICED DLC and not to mention the actual game was more expensive than the standard, well...I would of expected more from their servers. Especially seeing as the Online is where it is at. MW2 should of gotten an 8.5, 8.0. You must understand that something is up with the game when the majority of gamers say it's bad, whether compared to previous games in the series or other series entirely.

name a pc game without hackers

to say its noob filled is quite condescending on your part. who are you to say that people cannot enjoy a game just because of their skill level? If a game opens up to allow more people to get into gaming then by all means i welcome it.

If there is a noobtuber with danger close just noobtube back? there is no reason why you cannot use the same tatics... Or how about choosing different spots like elevated areas where noobtubers have a harder time hitting. you just learn to play with the game.

Okay so that guy is from another country, then so would probably other people in that lobby. the world doesn't just revolve around you, there are other people. It is probably in part due to the time your playing the game. I live in Hawaii which means playing with people from mainland US and i have no problems most of the time. I play at night when everyone in mainland US is asleep due to time differences and end up with people in germany or UK Either they have host or we do, its something unavoidable. I will play through these faults because i like the game.

once again name a game without hackers

didnt say it was awesome, but it is quite well made compared to other systems on consoles.

sure dedicated is prefered, but once again IW net is not terrible

DLC is DLC not much we can do about it, but in perspective some other DLC is just as rediculous

hey this is SW right? isn't everything dictated by scores? either way this is a forum board where "gamers" gather. Open up this "eveyrone hates cod" idea out to public the other 19 million who purchased cod and i think you'll find a overwhelming majority who like the game.

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It's not a bad game, it's just not anywhere near as good as CoD4 was.

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#31 Mograine
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name a pc game without hackers

to say its noob filled is quite condescending on your part. who are you to say that people cannot enjoy a game just because of their skill level? If a game opens up to allow more people to get into gaming then by all means i welcome it.

If there is a noobtuber with danger close just noobtube back? there is no reason why you cannot use the same tatics... Or how about choosing different spots like elevated areas where noobtubers have a harder time hitting. you just learn to play with the game.

Okay so that guy is from another country, then so would probably other people in that lobby. the world doesn't just revolve around you, there are other people. It is probably in part due to the time your playing the game. I live in Hawaii which means playing with people from mainland US and i have no problems most of the time. I play at night when everyone in mainland US is asleep due to time differences and end up with people in germany or UK Either they have host or we do, its something unavoidable. I will play through these faults because i like the game.

once again name a game without hackers

didnt say it was awesome, but it is quite well made compared to other systems on consoles.

sure dedicated is prefered, but once again IW net is not terrible

DLC is DLC not much we can do about it, but in perspective some other DLC is just as rediculous

hey this is SW right? isn't everything dictated by scores? either way this is a forum board where "gamers" gather. Open up this "eveyrone hates cod" idea out to public the other 19 million who purchased cod and i think you'll find a overwhelming majority who like the game.

tutt3r

A game without hackers - Heroes of Newerth.

There it goes.

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#32 Vesica_Prime
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once again name a game without hackers

tutt3r

It is impossible for a game to be without hackers but in a well administrated server, hackers rarely occur and are usually banned. Modern Warfare 2 does not have servers hence making it very admin unfriendly.

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#33 tutt3r
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[QUOTE="tutt3r"]

name a pc game without hackers

to say its noob filled is quite condescending on your part. who are you to say that people cannot enjoy a game just because of their skill level? If a game opens up to allow more people to get into gaming then by all means i welcome it.

If there is a noobtuber with danger close just noobtube back? there is no reason why you cannot use the same tatics... Or how about choosing different spots like elevated areas where noobtubers have a harder time hitting. you just learn to play with the game.

Okay so that guy is from another country, then so would probably other people in that lobby. the world doesn't just revolve around you, there are other people. It is probably in part due to the time your playing the game. I live in Hawaii which means playing with people from mainland US and i have no problems most of the time. I play at night when everyone in mainland US is asleep due to time differences and end up with people in germany or UK Either they have host or we do, its something unavoidable. I will play through these faults because i like the game.

once again name a game without hackers

didnt say it was awesome, but it is quite well made compared to other systems on consoles.

sure dedicated is prefered, but once again IW net is not terrible

DLC is DLC not much we can do about it, but in perspective some other DLC is just as rediculous

hey this is SW right? isn't everything dictated by scores? either way this is a forum board where "gamers" gather. Open up this "eveyrone hates cod" idea out to public the other 19 million who purchased cod and i think you'll find a overwhelming majority who like the game.

Mograine

A game without hackers - Heroes of Newerth.

There it goes.

one game compared to the thousands with hackers. Hackers are inevitable and they are more abundant in more popular games for obvious reasons. doesn't disprove my point that there isnt anything wrong with cod that thousands of others games share

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#34 mgs_freak91
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[QUOTE="mgs_freak91"][QUOTE="tutt3r"]

yes i've played bf2 and i know about 64 player games, but even then people lag. And still more players does not make for a better game necissarily. I am not downplaying dedicated at all. and i am glad that there are dedicated servers, but to completely pass up on a good game is quite rediculous. The IW net is by no means perfect and dedicated is prefered, however it still works and works quite fine actually

chris_yz80

I don't really care so much about the no dedicated servers. But it is annoying when host has advantage in a game like Modern Warfare 2. I would like to be host, or have such a crappy connection that I lag around to get kills >.>

someone will always have an advantage though

Yea, but Host gets better bullet recognition. In a game like MW2, i.e., a shooter, that is very important. The only time a host can be at the disadvantage is if someone is lagging really bad. Or if they suck so much they can't play.

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#35 iMojo786_PSN
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It's a good game. The glitches and unbalanced weapons killed it though, I couldn't stand it after 3 months of playing.SaltyMeatballs
lol same, everyone useing UMP45, jumping in mid air doing a 360 spin sniping some1 on the other side of the map WTF?!

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#36 emperorzhang66
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They also couldn't review change the score a week or two after when they realised the multiplayer was broken and glitchy :)
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#37 speedfreak48t5p
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Don't defend the overpriced map packs please. Kotick is an **** and we all know it.

Actually, most of those points are quite valid. Campaign was a perfect length for the type of gameplay. I would really like to talk to the idiot who thinks this game has bad graphics. Sure the game has problems, but how in the world can you say the game has bad visuals? They're stunning! Just because a weak texture here and there? :lol:

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#38 erglesmergle
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In defense of an AAA that sold more than 20 million copies? Really?

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#39 Skittles_McGee
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The funny thing is, the majority reception on MW2 from both critics and gamers is positive. It's just that the hate bandwagon is most vocal. And really, most of the complaints translate to "I'm the same kind of person that also thinks Smash Bros. should be Fox only, final destination, no items" Whatever happened to judging a game based on how fun it is?
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The campaign which everyone rags on for being so short is actually perfect at the 5 hr mark. Its been said before why make a game thats 12 hours with only 5 hours of real content and 7 hours of fluff and repetition. As a action game, its important to have a lot of things happening and if you were to keep the high pacing for 10+ hours, after a while the "plot twists" would become expected and not have as huge of an impact. Also some say the cod storyline is over the top and just rediculous, but honestly tell me one game that isnt.

Even if you felt you were gimped on the campaign, Spec-ops is a great addition to cod. Instead of copying treryarchs popular zombie mode, IW made a just as equally addicting coop mode. There is a huge amount of replayability that extends the playtime making up for short campaign.tutt3r

So you're trying to tell me that action games longer than 5 hours are the ones with bad campaigns? And Spec Ops makes up for the short campaign? I thought you said the length of the campaign was perfect?

PC gamers are angry over lack of dedicated servers, however I own both pc and xbox versions of the game and the pc version is not as bad as people make it out to be. Sure you get your laggy games, but be honest having dedicated servers does not get rid of lag. I play a lot of online games and people still lag on dedicated. Also not every pc game supports dedicated servers. Once again its completely the devs choice on how they want to present a game, nothing is owed to you.tutt3r

This is something I do not understand. Because MW2 does not feature dedicated servers that means I should lower my standards and be happy about it? How about no. I'd rather have a better game. And now we're getting one with Black Ops, because we were not happy about it.

It's just ill-advised to defend things like this. Fine if you want to bring up what MW2 did well, but it's unfine to defend genuine criticism of it with lines like "nothing is owed to you", implying you're fine with them removing standardized features because it's their prerogative. If you can't give a reason for why people should be happy about worse games then don't bother.

You not liking a game =/= a bad gametutt3r

You liking a game =/= those who don't have invalid reasons for disliking it.

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#41 skrat_01
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The campaign is a mess. It's multiplayer component is a mess. It is missing basic features on the PC. It's DLC is hilariously overpriced and lacking content. So there. It isn't a terrible game, it isn't a bad game, and it is better than average. This is a game that is good, and highly flawed.
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#42 tagyhag
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Meh, the game was a 7 to me. Fun and thrilling campaign, though short. Multiplayer was just too imbalanced, camper-friendly, and had a who-shoots-first-wins mentality.
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#43 jaqulle999
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There is nothing wrong with the game itself, its the people who ruin it. Each game has at least 4 kids noobtubing and about half of them are explioting one man army or one of the many other hacks which are fixed by now. The only problem is it took so long to finally patch those things.

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#44 tonitorsi
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Its a damn good game overall.

There's no justification or available excuses for the SP. You're paying a $60 game with 5 hours of single player only &I won't even go for the overpriced map packs. The multiplayer is one of this gen's most horrible disasters. Though it was well executed and made its vision clear of what it tried to achieve....the lack of beta & necessary precautions killed it. Glitchfest, noobtube miasmas, nuke spamming, horribly annoying overpowered perks, and did I mention overpriced map packs?

Accept it, Activision only cares about your money and they sure as hell got it without much effort. And you just love it.

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#45 Kan0nF0dder
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The singleplayer was ok, everything about the multiplayer is horrible though - and I quite liked CoD4. Everything they tweaked regarding the gameplay online was designed to make it so noobs make kills, and there isn't a huge difference between someone with 10hrs played and 200hrs.

The game just isn't hard enough to produce the ranging gradient of skill differences - i.e. its a casual-fest, and they like it cause they don't get 'owned by the geeks' which is what they're used to.

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#46 enterawesome
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The critics gave it such high praise because on the surface it all seemed fine and well. But glitches, hackers, inbalances, and other things surface further into the game's life span, something they couldn't account for. The campaign is also a problem at 3-5 hours. You could say, "Oh, but why lenghten it and add lot's of repetitive stuff?" First of all, the game easily could have gone on longer, because the story was left with no closure, and in any other game that would have been the midway point. There was no climax or anything. Not to mention the plot was garbage.
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#47 rolo107
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You are attempting to make the game out as if it has no flaws, which is just not true.Your last statement does not fall in line with everything you said at all. A lot of the hate is undue and exaggerated, but there are many flaws that are worth pointing out.

The horrible story, the lack of dedicated servers, the constant glitches that are just barely evening out, the balance issues such as the grenade launcher(when you can shoot straight up in the air to get kills randomly around the map, then there is something wrong), infinite ammo due to OMA, etc.

There's more, but you can't compare this game to those you did, they did a lot more right than wrong while Modern Warfare 2 struggled to find a good baseline.

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#48 TheRapture
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Critically acclaimed? Check. One of the best selling games of the generation? Check. People hate on what's popular, it's plain and simple. People can make any argument towards the game on how "flawed" it is, but that's just their opinion and it doesn't make it a bad game.
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#49 alextherussian
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It has flaws, you cant sweep that under the rug. But quite simply its a fun and addictive game that has brought me more hours of fun then 95% of other games out there. Right now its standing at about shoulder to shoulder with TF2, behind CS and with SC2 at its heels. In the end, fun is all that matters...
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#50 SPYDER0416
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In defense of an AAA that sold more than 20 million copies? Really?

erglesmergle

Yeah I mean... its the internet, it hates on everything popular.