In Summer 2005 Sony was on top of the world

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#1 NorthlandMan
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They were dominating the console market. The PS2 had seen a level of success that no console had seen since the PS1. They had obliterated the newcomer Microsoft and the old guard Nintendo. They had just released their new handheld the PSP which practially every media outlet was saying would dominate the handheld market (lol). Considering that Nintendo had no hope in the console market and their new handheld was believed by the same media outlets to be an ugly gimmicky fad (again lol) there was no doubt that Sony would soon rule the console AND handheld markets. In contrast Nintendo looked to be on the way out. Yamauchi himself (president of Nintendo) had publicly stated that the failure of the DS would destroy them Then there was the announcement of the PS3. This was the succesor to the most successful console in the world and NOTHING could stop it from winning. No-one dared to question its inevitable success, this was a given. Every industry analyst and media outlet had it peggd as a a sure thing

Fast forward to today. The PSP has been murdered by the DS and there is practically nothing to look forward to on the system (apart from the obligatory first party stuff and those ports/remakes/multiplats). The PS3 is struggling to get off the ground as gamers decide that they dont want to pay $600 to play some mediocre exclusives and watered down 360 ports.

 

Where did it all go wrong?

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#2 nyoroism
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 Where did it all go wrong?

NorthlandMan
Somewhere between November 17th and 20th.
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#3 SolidSnake35
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Things will pick up, I hope. I think it's pretty impossible for a company to have success after success forever.
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#4 masterpinky2000
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The DS and the Wii were part of a general Nintendo reinvention that didn't go for flasy tech and emphasized innovative gameplay elements.  That being said, whether the Wii has lasting power is still very up in the air--the handheld market doesn't have great graphics anyways, so it's not a big deal if the technology is inferior.  But the Wii's inferiority in power will likely be very telling in 2-3 years, and be a serious disadvantage over the 360 or the PS3 (which is a disaster right now).
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#5 NorthlandMan
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Things will pick up, I hope. I think it's pretty impossible for a company to have success after success forever.SolidSnake35

 

i dont think it'll happen this generation though, it think it's a given at this point that Sony will have to sturggle just to get by. They're an excellent company though and i sincerely hope that next gen (or the gen after) they can regain their former glory.  and they need to abandon the handheld market and concentrate on consoles STAT!!!!

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#6 deluxemando
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TC.  Ownage approved and applauded.  Good job.  Cows can now go get milked.
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#7 SolidSnake35
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TC.  Ownage approved and applauded.  Good job.  Cows can now go get milked.deluxemando
Does every thread have to result in childish comments?
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#8 Jhung207
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I had a ps1 and a ps2 and those were the best consoles i've owned.  But it doesn't mean im stupid enough to invest $600 on the ps3 when xbox 360 is a lot cheaper and have a  better gaming library.  It was a nice run by sony, I hope they can do better next gen and not release useless features that we don't need and just concentrate on gamplay and gaming experience.
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#9 WiiMan21
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Sony has failed  with the Psp and now there failing with the Ps3. I wonder whats new with Sony, and i also wonder what the Ps4 is going to be like. :| it just seems like their systems keep getting worse and worse.

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#10 magiciandude
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[QUOTE="deluxemando"]TC.  Ownage approved and applauded.  Good job.  Cows can now go get milked.SolidSnake35
Does every thread have to result in childish comments?

Well, it is System Wars and all... >_>

Oh and TC, it all went wrong in E3 06 (I think).

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#11 jg4xchamp
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They got arrogant. and basically handed Nintendo and Microsoft a chance to win. Thats all those companies needed, a chance. and both companies came in swinging and ready. Microsoft had a generally good launch. they made a system relatively easy to develop for compared to the PS3. it has lots of power. a great online service. there 3 sku may have some bad pricing but it does work to a degree. for those who dont want online, theres the core. For those who want the online theres the premium. For the HD owners theres the elite. Other than that the 3 skus are kind of stupid. With the PS3 where u are stuck with paying for that Bluray player u might not need. Throw in some massive 3rd party support, that includes loss of exclusives on the PS3. and a good variety of genres that cover the AA score, With then 5 AAA titles. With 4 being fun online shooters, and 1 being a great wrpg. The 360 was showing its muscle.

Then the wii happened. Huge casual and nongamer market appeal. If its a Fad, its still gonna sell alot. Its not gonna get to 10 million and stop. Its gonna get to 20-30 million over a 1-2 years. Which will result in more 3rd party support, that will not only make the casual games, but the hardcore games(Nights, DragonQuest swords, No More Heroes, SOul Caliber Legends,etc). The Nintendo 1st party that is still the best in the bus. A highly critical success in Zelda(AAA on gamerankings with a 94, and that 8.8 is its lowest score i believe. Thats a critical success) from the get go. Nice media hype, consistant sell outs leading to more hype. And the wii is a completely different system from the other 2. It relies mostly on innovation motion sensing controls, that should and hopefully lead to innovative gameplay. Plus its the cheapest console, with the games also being cheaper.
All in all, sony helped the other 2 have a chance to win. and the other 2 took it, and have put the PS3 in a huge hole. Sure PS3 can comeback, but the damage is done. SOny lost a good chunk and will lose a good chunk of market share to the other 3. Also they lost that sense of there invincible. The other 2 companies have seen sony as vulnerable and a beatable company.

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#12 Hoffgod
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They made wrong decisions. They decided to focus less on what the consumer wanted and more on what they could do technically. For example, the PSP. Yeah, the screen is amazing, but who honestly wouldn't be willing to trade a bit of screen space for a more comfortable control interface and a second analogue stick?
And then there's the technical behemoth that is the PS3, swollen beyond any hopes of short-term mass market penetration by Sony's insistance upon cramming everything but the kitchen sink into it.

A good company focuses on the consumers. Sony didn't, and now they're paying for it. 

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#13 Lazy_Boy88
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I dunno about elsewhere but the only thing going on in System wars at that time was extensive "cow ownage" because the Killzone trailer wasn't gameplay. People were ready to hate PS3 long before it came out and that rabid fanboy hatred is the only thing that has hurt PS3.
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#14 Sup11722
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I think this gives an accurate picture of sonys freakin status now and maybe it will get though your thick skulls. Im not saying theres no hope if the ps3 picks it up im am armed and ready to buy a ps3
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#15 BlueBarad
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They got arrogant and thought they knew what was best for the industry. Kutaragi called the shots as he saw fit never asking for input from gamers or developers. The PS3 is a great piece of hardware, it is just not designed for gaming.
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[QUOTE="deluxemando"]TC.  Ownage approved and applauded.  Good job.  Cows can now go get milked.SolidSnake35
Does every thread have to result in childish comments?

what are you talking about please provide one thread in this forum that has childish comments in it. thats right you poopy head you cant :D

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#17 l_The_DetoX_l
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Can somone explain to me how PSP is failing? It's failing at being #1 yea but it's doing pretty well. So far all that has failed is the use of UMD for movies.
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#18 Endfinal
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Is this the same fanboy babel that we hear everyday or does this even attempt to add anything new?
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#19 yodariquo
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I'd say this is about as exact of a time when it "went wrong" as you'll get.