in terms of genre variety. Consoles>PC. FACT.

These are 12 of the biggest genres: WRPG, JRPGS, Fighting, Party games, Platformers, Racing, Action, Strategy, Sim-games, Shooters, Adventure and MMOs.

PC trumps consoles in WRPG, Strategy, Sim-games, Shooters, MMOs = 5 genres

Consoles trump PC in Adventure, JRPG, Fighting, Action, Party-games (ex. Mario Party, Wii Sports and beat-em-ups), Platformers, Racing = 7 genres

Consoles>PC in terms of variety. FACT.

when will this stupid threads stop?

if it isnt a retarded mgs4 thread its a thread inspired by painballz or made by her or him or whatever the ****

3+ systems and all their titles provides more variety than one? Holy crap. You must be a genius. Why didn't anyone else realize this before?!?!?XaosII

well..even the wii alone >>> PC in variety considering Wii has all of these genres...sooo... i dont get ur point.

My god your fail is so unrediculously high.ice144

Attempt to attack the poster and not teh arguement..i see..

You spilt WRPG and JRPG but not RTS TBS and 4x, or Flight Sim, management sims, life sims. Also PC dominates the traditional Adventure genre.pieatorium

well..jrpgs and wrpgs are vastly differnt...ok i give to u the traditional adventure genre and the flight sims. but there are sims in Consoles too (trauma center and other music games come to my mind)..

[QUOTE="pieatorium"]You spilt WRPG and JRPG but not RTS TBS and 4x, or Flight Sim, management sims, life sims. Also PC dominates the traditional Adventure genre.nitekids2004

well..jrpgs and wrpgs are vastly differnt...ok i give to u the traditional adventure genre and the flight sims. but there are sims in Consoles too (trauma center and other music games come to my mind)..

lol you think those are sims?

[QUOTE="XaosII"]3+ systems and all their titles provides more variety than one? Holy crap. You must be a genius. Why didn't anyone else realize this before?!?!?nitekids2004

well..even the wii alone >>> PC in variety considering Wii has all of these genres...sooo... i dont get ur point.

No. Not at all. The PC has fighting games, exclusive ones at that, but everyone knows that the PC isn't the system to get if you are into fighting games simply because there isnt enough variety to satisfay the demands of gamers into that genre.

If you are seriously telling me that the Wii has more variety than the PC simply because it houses a tiny handful of a few genres that would hardly qualify as a reasonable selection, then you are making a terrible argument.

Threads talking down on pc gaming should be automatic ban ;)kozzy1234

why? ;) I laugh at the concept of PCs being the best when in fact they only dominate half of the relevant genres. I wont deny their superiority in those genres compared to consoles though.

Strategy

Can be spllit into

RTS and TBS

Plus there are more traditional adventure games on the PC so that makes it PC 8

consoles 6

These are 12 of the biggest genres: WRPG, JRPGS, Fighting, Party games, Platformers, Racing, Action, Strategy, Sim-games, Shooters, Adventure and MMOs.

PC trumps consoles in WRPG, Strategy, Sim-games, Shooters, MMOs = 5 genres

Consoles trump PC in Adventure, JRPG, Fighting, Action, Party-games (ex. Mario Party, Wii Sports and beat-em-ups), Platformers, Racing = 7 genres

Consoles>PC in terms of variety. FACT.

nitekids2004

First of all PCs trump consoles in Adventure, consols trump PCs in action-adventure, different genres, second PC trumps consoles in puzzle games. Third: racing is debatable, so far PC has more good racers this gen than consoles and generaly PC always win in racing sims, while console win in arcade racing.

Also platformers? PC wins in 2D ones, consoles win in 3D ones

So bassicaly it's like this

PC wins in adventure, strategy, simulators and puzzle

Consoles win in action-adventure,fighters and party games

everything else is a tie, with both sides owning different types of subgenres in each genre

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

[QUOTE="XaosII"]3+ systems and all their titles provides more variety than one? Holy crap. You must be a genius. Why didn't anyone else realize this before?!?!?XaosII

well..even the wii alone >>> PC in variety considering Wii has all of these genres...sooo... i dont get ur point.

No. Not at all. The PC has fighting games, exclusive ones at that, but everyone knows that the PC isn't the system to get if you are into fighting games simply because there isnt enough variety to satisfay the demands of gamers into that genre.

If you are seriously telling me that the Wii has more variety than the PC simply because it houses a tiny handful of a few genres that would hardly qualify as a reasonable selection, then you are making a terrible argument.

well..im not denying that PCs dont have fighting games (or Jrpgs or any other genres for that matter) its just that consoles are superior to them when it comes to those genres (just as PC is superior to consoles when it comes to strategy,etc.).

Strategy

Can be spllit into

RTS and TBS

Plus there are more traditional adventure games on the PC so that makes it PC 8

consoles 6

Lonelynight

well..JRPGS can be split into 2 (or more) as well... the 2 most basic are turn-based strategy and turn based Rpg (there are action-rpgs as well).

In order to make it simpler, i just included the main genre.

I agree with the TC...

PC does a few genres very well.... Consoles own the PC in the rest.

I agree with the TC...

PC does a few genres very well.... Consoles own the PC in the rest.

Veterngamer

No, not really

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]

Strategy

Can be spllit into

RTS and TBS

Plus there are more traditional adventure games on the PC so that makes it PC 8

consoles 6

nitekids2004

well..JRPGS can be split into 2 (or more) as well... the 2 most basic are turn-based strategy and turn based Rpg (there are action-rpgs as well).

In order to make it simpler, i just included the main genre.

And TBS game and a RTS games is extreamly different.

[QUOTE="Veterngamer"]

I agree with the TC...

PC does a few genres very well.... Consoles own the PC in the rest.

AdrianWerner

No, not really

Yes, really!

See what i did there?

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="Veterngamer"]

I agree with the TC...

PC does a few genres very well.... Consoles own the PC in the rest.

Veterngamer

No, not really

Yes, really!

See what i did there?

I see what you did there, still doesn't change the fact you're wrong :)

Yep. But in terms of quality of those genres PC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Console. FACT.Lazy_Boy88

So you're saying that the Genres that are superior on the PC are superior to the genres that happen to be superior on consoles???

Umm.... NO! You may prefer RTS's & MMO's more than Action, RPG's & Platformers, but that doesn't make any 1 genre superior to another... they have a word for that... it's called "preference", grab a dictionary, look it up.

Youve got to be kidding me...

The best RTS, the best FPS, a great selection of old and new rpgs, plus the best for MMO's.

Its best to have a gaming pc and a console or two imo. Nothing like pc gaming though i tell ya.

PC = better online rpgs, fps,rts, online, graphics and not to mention great mods for games

Consoles = better Platform games, sports games (racing included), fighting games

Even = adventure, singleplayer rpgs and action games

well..jrpgs and wrpgs are vastly differnt...ok i give to u the traditional adventure genre and the flight sims. but there are sims in Consoles too (trauma center and other music games come to my mind)..

nitekids2004

You people just make me want to cry.

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

well..jrpgs and wrpgs are vastly differnt...ok i give to u the traditional adventure genre and the flight sims. but there are sims in Consoles too (trauma center and other music games come to my mind)..

t3hTwinky

You people just make me want to cry.

lol

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

well..jrpgs and wrpgs are vastly differnt...ok i give to u the traditional adventure genre and the flight sims. but there are sims in Consoles too (trauma center and other music games come to my mind)..

t3hTwinky

You people just make me want to cry.

ok..i made a simple mistake. Trauma Center falls into the action category.

And i did give PC the Sims-genre category.. so i dont know what the problem is..

Also PC dominates the traditional Adventure genre.pieatorium

Yes, and also racing. LFS, GTR2, and the better versions of most racing games (NFS, GRID, etc.)

When will these people stop making these ridiculous threads.

Again and again, im still yet to see one that even realises and proves its attempted point.

Always trying to prove something against the platform and always failing. Cant be good for ones self esteem.

[QUOTE="t3hTwinky"][QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

well..jrpgs and wrpgs are vastly differnt...ok i give to u the traditional adventure genre and the flight sims. but there are sims in Consoles too (trauma center and other music games come to my mind)..

nitekids2004

You people just make me want to cry.

ok..i made a simple mistake. Trauma Center falls into the action category.

And i did give PC the Sims-genre category.. so i dont know what the problem is..

l

ok..i made a simple mistake. Trauma Center falls into the action category.

And i did give PC the Sims-genre category.. so i dont know what the problem is..

nitekids2004

No, saying "aks" instead of "ask" is a simple mistake, calling Trauma Center a Simulator is just hilariously incorrect.

And the first problem is that since you can't get your genres straight, what place do you have saying that consoles have the PC beat? The second problem is that you apparently don't know what an action game is.

[QUOTE="Veterngamer"]

I agree with the TC...

PC does a few genres very well.... Consoles own the PC in the rest.

AdrianWerner

No, not really

You can use a gamepad controller (such as Xbox 360 gamepad) on your PC if you play a game that requires/prefers those types controls instead. Works great on racing games, sports games, etc.

These are 12 of the biggest genres: WRPG, JRPGS, Fighting, Party games, Platformers, Racing, Action, Strategy, Sim-games, Shooters, Adventure and MMOs.

PC trumps consoles in WRPG, Strategy, Sim-games, Shooters, MMOs = 5 genres

Consoles trump PC in Adventure, JRPG, Fighting, Action, Party-games (ex. Mario Party, Wii Sports and beat-em-ups), Platformers, Racing = 7 genres

Consoles>PC in terms of variety. FACT.

nitekids2004

I don't get your argument, just because the genre is big it doesn't mean others don't exist.

Nerther are better or worse, they are both different, with strengths and weaknesses.

[QUOTE="Veterngamer"]

I agree with the TC...

PC does a few genres very well.... Consoles own the PC in the rest.

AdrianWerner

No, not really

Look in AdrianWerner's sig. Click reasons to be a PC gamer for this year. Get owned.

When I say the word "FACT" in the title, I had hoped I'd get some sort of, you know, facts. Maybe a list or some numbers or something.

Here's some ACTUAL facts on the whole issue, based on Nerdman's AAAE/AAE thread. I only wrote some examples on each to qualify which I mean by the genre

PC Genres present:

• FPS (Crysis, STALKER, Battlefield 2142)

• Turn Based Strategy (Civ 4 expansions, Heroes of Might and Magic 5)

• Real Time Strategy (Dawn of War exps, CoH, Sup Com)

• Miscellaneous Strategy (often a hybrid, for example the Total War games which is both RTS and TBS)

• Racer (GTR2, RACE)

• Adventure (Sam and Max)

• Action Adventure (Penumbra Black Plague)

• RPG (NWN 2, The Witcher)

• MMORPG (WoW, Age of Conan)

• Flight Simulator (Microsoft Flight Sim)

• Submarine Simulator (Silent Hunter)

• Life Simulator (Sims expansions)

• Sports (Specifically; Hockey, Baseball)

360 Genres:

• FPS (Halo 3)

• RPG (Eternal Sonata)

• Flight Simulator (Ace Combat 6)

• Tactical Shooter (GRAW)

• Racer (Forza, PGR)

• Fighter (DOA)

• Action (Dead Rising, GTA, Saints Row)

PS3 Genres:

• Action (MGS4, Uncharted)

• FPS (Resistance)

• Flight/Shooter (Warhawk)

Wii Genres:

• Fighter (Brawl)

• Platformer (SMG)

• Action (No More Heroes, Trauma Centre)

• Adventure (Zack & Wiki)

• FPS (MP3)

• Party (Super Monkey Ball, Warioware)

• RPG (Paper Mario)

• Racer (Mario Kart Wii)

So the tally stands at:

PC: 14 genres

360: 7 genres

PS3: 3 genres

Wii: 8 genres

Of course, if we're going to count consoles all together (that's the way the TC seems to want to do it, I've got to cut out these overlapping consoles genres, which brings us down to:

Consoles: 11 unique genres

Now, I doubt everyone will agree with some of my genre distinctions (I'm a little iffy about some of them myself, should MGS4 and Trauma Centre REALLY be in the same genre? They are at GameSpot, but I dunno...), but the broad picture still puts PC ahead of any system, and in fact most systems in unity, as the most diverse library of different genres.

When I say the word "FACT" in the title, I had hoped I'd get some sort of, you know, facts. Maybe a list or some numbers or something.

Here's some ACTUAL facts on the whole issue, based on Nerdman's AAAE/AAE thread. I only wrote some examples on each to qualify which I mean by the genre

PC Genres present:

• FPS (Crysis, STALKER, Battlefield 2142)

• Turn Based Strategy (Civ 4 expansions, Heroes of Might and Magic 5)

• Real Time Strategy (Dawn of War exps, CoH, Sup Com)

• Miscellaneous Strategy (often a hybrid, for example the Total War games which is both RTS and TBS)

• Racer (GTR2, RACE)

• Adventure (Sam and Max)

• Action Adventure (Penumbra Black Plague)

• RPG (NWN 2, The Witcher)

• MMORPG (WoW, Age of Conan)

• Flight Simulator (Microsoft Flight Sim)

• Submarine Simulator (Silent Hunter)

• Life Simulator (Sims expansions)

• Sports (Specifically; Hockey, Baseball)

360 Genres:

• FPS (Halo 3)

• RPG (Eternal Sonata)

• Flight Simulator (Ace Combat 6)

• Tactical Shooter (GRAW)

• Racer (Forza, PGR)

• Fighter (DOA)

• Action (Dead Rising, GTA, Saints Row)

PS3 Genres:

• Action (MGS4, Uncharted)

• FPS (Resistance)

• Flight/Shooter (Warhawk)

Wii Genres:

• Fighter (Brawl)

• Platformer (SMG)

• Action (No More Heroes, Trauma Centre)

• Adventure (Zack & Wiki)

• FPS (MP3)

• Party (Super Monkey Ball, Warioware)

• RPG (Paper Mario)

• Racer (Mario Kart Wii)

So the tally stands at:

PC: 14 genres

360: 7 genres

PS3: 3 genres

Wii: 8 genres

Of course, if we're going to count consoles all together (that's the way the TC seems to want to do it, I've got to cut out these overlapping consoles genres, which brings us down to:

Consoles: 11 unique genres

Now, I doubt everyone will agree with some of more genre distinctions (I'm a little iffy about some of them myself, should MGS4 and Trauma Centre REALLY be in the same genre, though they are at GameSpot), but the broad picture still puts PC ahead of any system, and in fact most systems in unity, as the most diverse library of different genres.

Danm_999

LOL... "Miscellaneous Strategy" wow someones desperate to be right.

Flight Sim

Submarine Sim

Life Sim

Bathtime Sim

Scoop up ur dogs poo Sim

College Frat Party Sim....

Sim is 1 Genre, duh.

These are 12 of the biggest genres: WRPG, JRPGS, Fighting, Party games, Platformers, Racing, Action, Strategy, Sim-games, Shooters, Adventure and MMOs.

PC trumps consoles in WRPG, Strategy, Sim-games, Shooters, MMOs = 5 genres

Consoles trump PC in Adventure, JRPG, Fighting, Action, Party-games (ex. Mario Party, Wii Sports and beat-em-ups), Platformers, Racing = 7 genres

Consoles>PC in terms of variety. FACT.

nitekids2004

You, sir, are correct.

These are 12 of the biggest genres: WRPG, JRPGS, Fighting, Party games, Platformers, Racing, Action, Strategy, Sim-games, Shooters, Adventure and MMOs.

PC trumps consoles in WRPG, Strategy, Sim-games, Shooters, MMOs = 5 genres

Consoles trump PC in Adventure, JRPG, Fighting, Action, Party-games (ex. Mario Party, Wii Sports and beat-em-ups), Platformers, Racing = 7 genres

Consoles>PC in terms of variety. FACT.

nitekids2004

:lol , so you wont split up strategy games, but you will split up RPGs? ... they are not wildly different at the core, only the way they are presented to the audiance, but if you want to play it like that.

PC

WRPG

MMORPG

MMORTS

MMOShooter

First Person Shooters

Third Person Shooters

Traditional Adventure

Simulation ( Variety )

RTS

TBS

RTS/TBS hybrids ( Total Wars? )

Racing ( Even, consoles have the bigger budgets, but PC Racers are numerous aswell ... its not all about the shallow flash of Forza and GT )

Sorry but 3D platformers, JRPG, Party Games and fighters are the only genres I can give you.

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

These are 12 of the biggest genres: WRPG, JRPGS, Fighting, Party games, Platformers, Racing, Action, Strategy, Sim-games, Shooters, Adventure and MMOs.

PC trumps consoles in WRPG, Strategy, Sim-games, Shooters, MMOs = 5 genres

Consoles trump PC in Adventure, JRPG, Fighting, Action, Party-games (ex. Mario Party, Wii Sports and beat-em-ups), Platformers, Racing = 7 genres

Consoles>PC in terms of variety. FACT.

Yodas_Boy

You, sir, are correct.

I disagreee with both of you.

LOL... "Miscellaneous Strategy" wow someones desperate to be right.

Flight Sim

Submarine Sim

Life Sim

Bathtime Sim

Scoop up ur dogs poo Sim

College Frat Party Sim....

Sim is 1 Genre, duh.

Veterngamer

So basically your telling me we should consider the Sims and Microsoft Flight Simulator of the same genre? Does that make much sense to you at all?

Or that Medieval Total War should be in the same catergory as Command and Conquer 3?

(why am I bother with this, I've doubt you've played any of these games).

Yes, I realise there is some difficulty in maintaing genre boundaries, but I tried to be as fair as possible (for example, I don't consider Ace Combat 6 and Warhawk to be of the same genre)

And even if I removed those two genres, the PC would still be ahead.

LOL... "Miscellaneous Strategy" wow someones desperate to be right.

Flight Sim

Submarine Sim

Life Sim

Bathtime Sim

Scoop up ur dogs poo Sim

College Frat Party Sim....

Sim is 1 Genre, duh.

Veterngamer

They all play vastly different from each other :|

Sim is 1 Genre, duh.

Veterngamer

So in the end the only genres where consoles own PCs are action-adventure, parety and and fighting games.

While PC wins in strategy, simulation, puzzle and adventure

doesn't look like consoles have any genre variety advantage over PCs

When I say the word "FACT" in the title, I had hoped I'd get some sort of, you know, facts. Maybe a list or some numbers or something.

Here's some ACTUAL facts on the whole issue, based on Nerdman's AAAE/AAE thread. I only wrote some examples on each to qualify which I mean by the genre

PC Genres present:

• FPS (Crysis, STALKER, Battlefield 2142)

• Turn Based Strategy (Civ 4 expansions, Heroes of Might and Magic 5)

• Real Time Strategy (Dawn of War exps, CoH, Sup Com)

• Miscellaneous Strategy (often a hybrid, for example the Total War games which is both RTS and TBS)

• Racer (GTR2, RACE)

• Adventure (Sam and Max)

• Action Adventure (Penumbra Black Plague)

• RPG (NWN 2, The Witcher)

• MMORPG (WoW, Age of Conan)

• Flight Simulator (Microsoft Flight Sim)

• Submarine Simulator (Silent Hunter)

• Life Simulator (Sims expansions)

• Sports (Specifically; Hockey, Baseball)

360 Genres:

• FPS (Halo 3)

• RPG (Eternal Sonata)

• Flight Simulator (Ace Combat 6)

• Tactical Shooter (GRAW)

• Racer (Forza, PGR)

• Fighter (DOA)

• Action (Dead Rising, GTA, Saints Row)

PS3 Genres:

• Action (MGS4, Uncharted)

• FPS (Resistance)

• Flight/Shooter (Warhawk)

Wii Genres:

• Fighter (Brawl)

• Platformer (SMG)

• Action (No More Heroes, Trauma Centre)

• Adventure (Zack & Wiki)

• FPS (MP3)

• Party (Super Monkey Ball, Warioware)

• RPG (Paper Mario)

• Racer (Mario Kart Wii)

So the tally stands at:

PC: 14 genres

360: 7 genres

PS3: 3 genres

Wii: 8 genres

Of course, if we're going to count consoles all together (that's the way the TC seems to want to do it, I've got to cut out these overlapping consoles genres, which brings us down to:

Consoles: 11 unique genres

Now, I doubt everyone will agree with some of my genre distinctions (I'm a little iffy about some of them myself, should MGS4 and Trauma Centre REALLY be in the same genre? They are at GameSpot, but I dunno...), but the broad picture still puts PC ahead of any system, and in fact most systems in unity, as the most diverse library of different genres.

Danm_999

Why do you have to own everyone you come up against with your unbeatable logic? :x

Anyway, this post just gave me a reason to bookmark this thread.

Agreed, but PC is still good to play games with.

It all comes down to genre preference to favor a single system.

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

These are 12 of the biggest genres: WRPG, JRPGS, Fighting, Party games, Platformers, Racing, Action, Strategy, Sim-games, Shooters, Adventure and MMOs.

PC trumps consoles in WRPG, Strategy, Sim-games, Shooters, MMOs = 5 genres

Consoles trump PC in Adventure, JRPG, Fighting, Action, Party-games (ex. Mario Party, Wii Sports and beat-em-ups), Platformers, Racing = 7 genres

Consoles>PC in terms of variety. FACT.

Meu2k7

:lol , so you wont split up strategy games, but you will split up RPGs? ... they are not wildly different at the core, only the way they are presented to the audiance, but if you want to play it like that.

PC

WRPG

MMORPG

MMORTS

MMOShooter

First Person Shooters

Third Person Shooters

Traditional Adventure

Simulation ( Variety )

RTS

TBS

RTS/TBS hybrids ( Total Wars? )

Racing ( Even, consoles have the bigger budgets, but PC Racers are numerous aswell ... its not all about the shallow flash of Forza and GT )

Sorry but 3D platformers, JRPG, Party Games and fighters are the only genres I can give you.

the reason i dont want to divide it that way, is because it will cause too much divisions. On Racing itslef there are ALOT of sub genres: futuristic, kart, sim (GT), motorstorm type, bike, "normal". anyway u get the point. the Party games itself is loosely defined. And there are rythmn games as well. JRPGs - tbs strategy (FFT type), turn based (ff7 type), Action JRPG (FF CC type).

If u want to do it your way, it sounds good too and i respect that.

i divided JRPGS and WRPGS because those two are obviously caters into different audience. If i didn't divide those two. then i would declare PC and COnsole as tie in the RPG genre.

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

ok..i made a simple mistake. Trauma Center falls into the action category.

And i did give PC the Sims-genre category.. so i dont know what the problem is..

t3hTwinky

No, saying "aks" instead of "ask" is a simple mistake, calling Trauma Center a Simulator is just hilariously incorrect.

And the first problem is that since you can't get your genres straight, what place do you have saying that consoles have the PC beat? The second problem is that you apparently don't know what an action game is.

ok i made one mistake. how does that invalidate my whole post again?

And Gamespot themselves labelled it as an "action" genre so i dont see a problem.

[QUOTE="Veterngamer"]

Sim is 1 Genre, duh.

AdrianWerner

So in the end the only genres where consoles own PCs are action-adventure, parety and and fighting games.

While PC wins in strategy, simulation, puzzle and adventure

doesn't look like consoles have any genre variety advantage over PCs

you forgot racing and sports games.