Infamous : use of PS4 controller and new gameplay?

The touchpad seems to be adding new gameplay elements and the gameplay looks awesome.

Has to be my most anticipated game on any console.

http://ca.ign.com/videos/2013/08/30/how-infamous-second-son-uses-dualshock-4?utm_campaign=ign+main+twitter&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

Discuss? And i think we need some gifs. 

lock if its old. 

Youtube link cos fvck IGNs player, But this is old footage

Youtube link cos fvck IGNs player, But this is old footage

seanmcloughlin

The controller looks nice, but honestly, the touchpad input seems stupid and simply thrown in the game because somebody said, "hey, we should probably use this touchpad thing."

I find it funny how people still do not see a relevance to a touchpad on the controller despite the fact this is 2013 and touchpad came out since the 90s lol

I am hoping they don't do the drag finger qte they did on uncharted for vita. I hate those.AutoPilotOn

They did it in the video already. He dragged his finger to lift something heavy

The controller looks nice, but honestly, the touchpad input seems stupid and simply thrown in the game because somebody said, "hey, we should probably use this touchpad thing."

caseystryker

I agree. Nothing shown looks easier or more intuitive when using the touchpad and would be much simpler by just using the regular buttons

I find it funny how people still do not see a relevance to a touchpad on the controller despite the fact this is 2013 and touchpad came out since the 90s lol

megaspiderweb09

What does the touch pad really add? Why can't I just press square? GIMMICK 

[QUOTE="caseystryker"]

The controller looks nice, but honestly, the touchpad input seems stupid and simply thrown in the game because somebody said, "hey, we should probably use this touchpad thing."

seanmcloughlin

I agree. Nothing shown looks easier or more intuitive when using the touchpad and would be much simpler by just using the regular buttons

Same, all this motion shit just seems pointless and counter intuitive. That goes for all consoles.

The wii was actually onto something in Metroid prime 3, that actually controlled very well for an early Wii game and the aiming was fairly accurate it really did enhance the atmospere. Same thing which KZ2 had from what I understand the ps Wand worked well.

i think it really depends on the game. Shoe horning that crap into every title just seems nuts however and that's the direction it seems alot of the industry is heading.

[QUOTE="megaspiderweb09"]

I find it funny how people still do not see a relevance to a touchpad on the controller despite the fact this is 2013 and touchpad came out since the 90s lol

caseystryker

You seem to forget the touchpad is actually a button, multiple button at that. Obviously you can argue the ''gimmick'' nature all you want but when you compare how many commands can be mapped on a controller as opposed to a Keyboard/Mouse, you would see why a touchpad sounds like reasonable alternative to adding a few more extra buttons. Perhaps not everyone likes the charcoal rub in the Uncharted Golden Abyss but i did, as it simulated a feel of finding clues for treasure, something that is largely missing from the main series, then there is the case of Dragons Crown where console players have complained how difficult it is to cast magic spells from rune stones as opposed to how simple it is on the Vita.

From the top of my head, i can give many scenarios where the touch input would actually impact positively to game design as opposed to just sticking to the same old crowded buttons and the best part of it is its an option, no one is forcing developers to use it, again its 2013...laptops had touch inputs since the 90s, go figure

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[QUOTE="caseystryker"]

The controller looks nice, but honestly, the touchpad input seems stupid and simply thrown in the game because somebody said, "hey, we should probably use this touchpad thing."

ReadingRainbow4

I agree. Nothing shown looks easier or more intuitive when using the touchpad and would be much simpler by just using the regular buttons

Same, all this motion shit just seems pointless and counter intuitive. That goes for all consoles.

The wii was actually onto something is Metroid prime 3, that actually controlled very well for an early Wii game and the aiming was fairly accurate. Same thing with KZ2 from what I understand the Wand worked well.

i think it really depends on the game. Shoe horning that crap into every title just seems nuts however and that's the direction it seems alot of the industry is heading.

I don't mind if there's an option to disable it and have normal buttons do that stuff but if it's forced to try sell the touchpad then it's a bad idea

[QUOTE="AutoPilotOn"]I am hoping they don't do the drag finger qte they did on uncharted for vita. I hate those.seanmcloughlin

They did it in the video already. He dragged his finger to lift something heavy

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="AutoPilotOn"]I am hoping they don't do the drag finger qte they did on uncharted for vita. I hate those.mems_1224

They did it in the video already. He dragged his finger to lift something heavy

Yeah that blows, it's right up there with hammering a button prompt to open a door or some other meaningless quicktime crap.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

They did it in the video already. He dragged his finger to lift something heavy

ReadingRainbow4

Yeah that blows, it's right up there with hammering a button prompt to open a door or some other meaningless quicktime crap.

Forget the controler, that gameplay looks awesome:D

The game looks like a lot of fun and the effects look awesome. However, for those of you and you know who you are that say the XBOX ONE cant do a game like Infamous SS should probably just save face right now and realize that Infamous will suffer from the same visual downgrade that you seem to love ripping Ryse, DR3 and Forza about. ShoTTyMcNaDeS

Ryse looks like shit because lol Crytek.

[QUOTE="caseystryker"]

The controller looks nice, but honestly, the touchpad input seems stupid and simply thrown in the game because somebody said, "hey, we should probably use this touchpad thing."

seanmcloughlin

I agree. Nothing shown looks easier or more intuitive when using the touchpad and would be much simpler by just using the regular buttons

[QUOTE="caseystryker"][QUOTE="megaspiderweb09"]

I find it funny how people still do not see a relevance to a touchpad on the controller despite the fact this is 2013 and touchpad came out since the 90s lol

megaspiderweb09

You seem to forget the touchpad is actually a button, multiple button at that. Obviously you can argue the ''gimmick'' nature all you want but when you compare how many commands can be mapped on a controller as opposed to a Keyboard/Mouse, you would see why a touchpad sounds like reasonable alternative to adding a few more extra buttons. Perhaps not everyone likes the charcoal rub in the Uncharted Golden Abyss but i did, as it simulated a feel of finding clues for treasure, something that is largely missing from the main series, then there is the case of Dragons Crown where console players have complained how difficult it is to cast magic spells from rune stones as opposed to how simple it is on the Vita.

From the top of my head, i can give many scenarios where the touch input would actually impact positively to game design as opposed to just sticking to the same old crowded buttons and the best part of it is its an option, no one is forcing developers to use it, again its 2013...laptops had touch inputs since the 90s, go figure

Yea,Infamous Second Son poops all over anything I've seen on Xbone so far.:)

I hope they make this a fluid mechanic and not something that it feels forced into the game.

Game is looking great ! killzowned24

Game does look awesome.. however that touch pad thing doesn't.... 

lol, the ps4 controller.

it looks better than the last ds but i laugh every time i look at all the bells and whistles on it.

sixaxis! a touchpad! a speaker! a clicky touchpad thingy! a share button! a softserve ice cream dispencer!

:lol:

it looks like they just spit on a ds3 and rolled it in a pile of accessories and kept what stuck to it.

Well that looks horrible, six axis all over again. At least if it's anything like six axis devs will just stop using it in a few years or actually come up with something cool to use it with.soulitane

I hope the touchpad doesn't ruin this game.

Screw the touchpad. God I hate all these useless gimmicks they all seem to feel the need to add.

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]Game is looking great ! PSP107

Looks dumb cos it IS dumb. Why you have to put two thumbs in an awkward grip on the touchpad when you can just press 1 button like Infamous 1 and 2? It's gimmicky as all hell and it's trying to find a use for something that isn't needed

They should honestly just use it as an extra button where you could press with one finger instead of both to suck smoke/neon/sewage waste/potatoes.

the touch screen has the potential to aleviate some of the problems that exist when trying to make a pc game work on a console and there being a lack of buttons. using radial menus has helped, but is slow to use in combat, using the d pad for 4 extra buttons has helped, but the touch pad gives even more options to developers trying to make MMO's etc work. At many points in the gen it will cause the PS4 version of 3rd party games to control better.

two new pics

Just what I didn't want to see - that touchpad looks gimmicky as hell. I'm not sure which is worse - Kinect or this.

minding the gimmick

the problem with the infamous games was the height

nearly every combo, super move, power, glide, jump etc.. was limited to like a 5 story building

if you're are going to use an original concept do it right

Just what I didn't want to see - that touchpad looks gimmicky as hell. I'm not sure which is worse - Kinect or this.

Vari3ty

[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

Just what I didn't want to see - that touchpad looks gimmicky as hell. I'm not sure which is worse - Kinect or this.

Spartan070

[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

Just what I didn't want to see - that touchpad looks gimmicky as hell. I'm not sure which is worse - Kinect or this.

bloodlust_101

I use to be wary of touchpads and screens but they can come in handy. As someone else mentioned already, in Dragon's Crown the runes are a lot easier to cast in the Vita version due to the touchscreen. I can actually fight and easily cast the rune at the same time. I can dodge in Gravity Rush without actually needing a button or analog stick dedicated to it. I agree the use in SS so far are dissapointing but I'm really glad the touchpad is there on the controller.