Influence of chauvinism on console choice

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#1 NielsNL
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Okay it's pretty clear that in Japan Sony is way more popular (Nin too of course) than M$ and that some of this is inspired by chauvinistic thoughts. Now I'm thinking Japanese aren't that different from Americans, so isn't it imaginable to think that the fact that 360 is outselling PS3 in the US is partially caused by this? I think it is obviously. Now does the fact that the PS3 in the US sells way better than the 360 in Japan relative to each other tell us that a lot of Americans actually do think the PS3 is better and let chauvinism not play a role for that?

Discuss.

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#2 hip-hop-cola2
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whats chauvinism lol?
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whats chauvinism lol?hip-hop-cola2
Prejudice view where you hold your own kind, gender, or group in a higher regard. Could also mean a zelous view of ones country, insane patriotism.
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#4 XaosII
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This topic has been done many, many times.

The games on the 360 dont appeal to many japanese gamers while the games on the PS3 and Wii do. Theres nothing more than that. Japan does use and favor many american products, businesses, and services. It has almost nothing to do with patriotism or chauvinism

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#5 NielsNL
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This topic has been done many, many times.

The games on the 360 dont appeal to many japanese gamers while the games on the PS3 and Wii do. Theres nothing more than that. Japan does use and favor many american products, businesses, and services. It has almost nothing to do with patriotism or chauvinism

XaosII

link?

:lol:

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#6 Out_Kast3000
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I don't know what you're talking about, but

XBOX 360 = 99% of it's games are American games FPSs and Driving games. And it' an American Console. Automatic Fail in Japan.

PS3 = Riding the fact that it's 2008 line up will be among the best ever for just one console. It's a Japanese console that the Japanese know and love from the PS1 days. It's going to have many RPGs/story driven games which Japanese Love, also GT5. Automatic Win.

PS3 will surpass the XBOX 360 in the US and Worldwide by the end of 08, it's inevitable. 360 sales are going to keep declining, especially in 2008.

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[QUOTE="XaosII"]

This topic has been done many, many times.

The games on the 360 dont appeal to many japanese gamers while the games on the PS3 and Wii do. Theres nothing more than that. Japan does use and favor many american products, businesses, and services. It has almost nothing to do with patriotism or chauvinism

NielsNL

link?

:lol:

Got a link that proves your point?

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#8 NielsNL
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But if Japanese love GT so much, why then will they not buy the 360 for its driving games?

And how 'bout Americans choosing the 360 over the PS3 as a rsult of chauvinism? Does it happen or doesn't it? (I'm European so it's hard to judge for me).

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I don't know what you're talking about, but

XBOX 360 = 99% of it's games are American games FPSs and Driving games. And it' an American Console. Automatic Fail in Japan.

PS3 = Riding the fact that it's 2008 line up will be among the best ever for just one console. It's a Japanese console that the Japanese know and love from the PS1 days. It's going to have many RPGs/story driven games which Japanese Love, also GT5. Automatic Win.

PS3 will surpass the XBOX 360 in the US and Worldwide by the end of 08, it's inevitable. 360 sales are going to keep declining, especially in 2008.

Out_Kast3000

Meh, I'd give it till '09. But as for the 360 doing better in America because of chauvanism, no, it's just because it's cheaper.

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#10 NielsNL
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[QUOTE="NielsNL"][QUOTE="XaosII"]

This topic has been done many, many times.

The games on the 360 dont appeal to many japanese gamers while the games on the PS3 and Wii do. Theres nothing more than that. Japan does use and favor many american products, businesses, and services. It has almost nothing to do with patriotism or chauvinism

XaosII

link?

:lol:

Got a link that proves your point?

I don't state a point as being fact. I merely post my view of things and ask for a discussion. You state your info as a fact. I'm asking how you came by these facts. Your response clearly shows you also just post what you heard here.

Someone from Japan reacting here would be nice.

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i think it's just that they hate america....
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But if Japanese love GT so much, why then will they not buy the 360 for its driving games?

And how 'bout Americans choosing the 360 over the PS3 as a rsult of chauvinism? Does it happen or doesn't it? (I'm European so it's hard to judge for me).

NielsNL

The 360 isn't preferred by Americans because it's produced by an American company, that really isn't even a factor. The games, i.e. Madden, Halo, Gears, are simply more appealing to the average casual American gamer. The same goes for Japan. Believe it or not, the 360's forte, i.e. shooters (don't get to upset now), simply aren't as large of a deal in Japan as they are in America or elsewhere.

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it has nothing to do with that...its simply that the kind of games the 360 gets are very unpopular in japan...shooters have never been popular there...etc.
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So hypothetically if the best FPS's would be on PS3 (Madden is multiplat) it would have a good chance of outselling the 360 in America?

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So hypothetically if the best FPS's would be on PS3 (Madden is multiplat) it would have a good chance of outselling the 360 in America?

NielsNL
You're under the impression that quality guarantees sales. It doesn't. You're trying to boil so many variables down into one. It just doesn't work that way. Why do you think analysts are wrong a lot of the time?
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So hypothetically if the best FPS's would be on PS3 (Madden is multiplat) it would have a good chance of outselling the 360 in America?

NielsNL

Well, if 360's FPS's went to PS3 then the 360 would have very few games, so yeah I'd say PS3 would be in front.

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I don't know what you're talking about, but

XBOX 360 = 99% of it's games are American games FPSs and Driving games. And it' an American Console. Automatic Fail in Japan.

PS3 = Riding the fact that it's 2008 line up will be among the best ever for just one console. It's a Japanese console that the Japanese know and love from the PS1 days. It's going to have many RPGs/story driven games which Japanese Love, also GT5. Automatic Win.

PS3 will surpass the XBOX 360 in the US and Worldwide by the end of 08, it's inevitable. 360 sales are going to keep declining, especially in 2008.

Out_Kast3000

Why do you even post...

every one of your posts are nothing but baseless predictions (none of which have EVER come true) and more "just wait" theory of what people will spend their money on...

seriously, resist the urge to hit the submit button.... you'll thank yourself later...;)

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#18 agentfred
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So hypothetically if the best FPS's would be on PS3 (Madden is multiplat) it would have a good chance of outselling the 360 in America?

NielsNL

That, or better games in general. Proof? PS2. Easily outsold the original Xbox, despite being a Japanese product.

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#19 cobrax75
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MS and sony may be based in America and Japan, but they are bassiclly both international companies anyway....the fact that they are based in a certain location is for all intents and purposes is meaningless, beyond being more in tune with what people their like....
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#20 NielsNL
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[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

So hypothetically if the best FPS's would be on PS3 (Madden is multiplat) it would have a good chance of outselling the 360 in America?

Ibacai

You're under the impression that quality guarantees sales. It doesn't. You're trying to boil so many variables down into one. It just doesn't work that way. Why do you think analysts are wrong a lot of the time?

Now that's a sensible post. I guess you're right. I'm oversimplifying things. Still it is one of the variables. One might say an important one. So let's say KZ2 will be very good (it could be, no clue), that could well be a turning point in US sales for the PS3.

But indeed, it's impossible to predict a complex thing like consumer behaviour by applying some model with a number of variables. (econometrists do it though. They earn loads of money. And they're very often wrong. Now that's another thing to contemplate)

/thread i guess

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TC, ever been to Japan? They're definetly not as similar as you might think.
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#22 NielsNL
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TC, ever been to Japan? They're definetly not as similar as you might think.meetroid8

No I haven't. I take it you have? Care to elaborate?