Ipad was announced and it is the dumbest hardware device

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#1 nhh18
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Dunno where to put this but it is a giant iphone competing against web books with a most likely higher price point.

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#2 Animal-Mother
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Dunno where to put this but it is a giant iphone competing against web books with a most likely higher price point.

nhh18
Awesome your judging a device that's only been revealed to the world for 40 min. You know people will buy it.
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It's made by apple. That's enough for millions of people to want it.

the NYtimes app looks pretty cool though.


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#4 nhh18
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It's made by apple. That's enough for millions of people to want it.CakeBalls
I think apple fanboys won't buy this. It is basically a big iphone. It plays app games, and all its apps are going to be from iphone store. I have no idea why anyone would buy this unless they are real huge apple fanboys.

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Who cares it can play games i just want to see how good they are going to look

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looks very dumb to mee
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[QUOTE="CakeBalls"]It's made by apple. That's enough for millions of people to want it.nhh18

I think apple fanboys won't buy this. It is basically a big iphone. It plays app games, and all its apps are going to be from iphone store. I have no idea why anyone would buy this unless they are real huge apple fanboys.

although it can do everything an phone can. I don't think an Iphone will be able to do everything the iPad can.
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#8 Bread_or_Decide
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no 3G = fail.
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Dunno where to put this but it is a giant iphone competing against web books with a most likely higher price point.

nhh18

Very compelling argument you got dar

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still no flash support,....what a failure

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Wait for Ipad V.3.

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#12 nhh18
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

Dunno where to put this but it is a giant iphone competing against web books with a most likely higher price point.

bsman00

Very compelling argument you got dar

I own an iphone. And think it is the greatest mobile device ever made. I have nothing against apple. It is that this isn't a product that has any use.

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#13 nhh18
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Here is what is confirmed

-No flash

-All the apps are upped high resoloution for ipad

-No 3g access.

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[QUOTE="bsman00"]

[QUOTE="nhh18"]

Dunno where to put this but it is a giant iphone competing against web books with a most likely higher price point.

nhh18

Very compelling argument you got dar

I own an iphone. And think it is the greatest mobile device ever made. I have nothing against apple. It is that this isn't a product that has any use.

I thought the same thing when the kindle was released too. But look at that now.
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The name is also pretty terrible. Sounds like an electronic feminine product. "For when your iphone has that time of the month...IPAD!"
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I'll wait until Gen 3 at least

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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="bsman00"] Very compelling argument you got dar

CakeBalls

I own an iphone. And think it is the greatest mobile device ever made. I have nothing against apple. It is that this isn't a product that has any use.

I thought the same thing when the kindle was released too. But look at that now.

how you thought that the kindle isnt a product anyone can use is beyond me....

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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="bsman00"] Very compelling argument you got dar

CakeBalls

I own an iphone. And think it is the greatest mobile device ever made. I have nothing against apple. It is that this isn't a product that has any use.

I thought the same thing when the kindle was released too. But look at that now.

Kindle has a use it is allowing people not to carry tons of books instead of having all their books in one place. This doesn't have any use and is going to cost 3 times the kindle.

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no 3G = fail.Bread_or_Decide
Yup. iPhone w/o 3G and more expensive. No thanks.
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[QUOTE="CakeBalls"][QUOTE="nhh18"]I own an iphone. And think it is the greatest mobile device ever made. I have nothing against apple. It is that this isn't a product that has any use.

ogvampire

I thought the same thing when the kindle was released too. But look at that now.

how you thought that the kindle isnt a product anyone can use is beyond me....

well the price point was the biggest factor that I thought would mean that it wouldn't take off, and I was obviously wrong. Usually I'm right.
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="CakeBalls"][QUOTE="nhh18"]I own an iphone. And think it is the greatest mobile device ever made. I have nothing against apple. It is that this isn't a product that has any use.

I thought the same thing when the kindle was released too. But look at that now.

Kindle has a use it is allowing people not to carry tons of books instead of having all their books in one place. This doesn't have any use and is going to cost 3 times the kindle.

Kindle is a simple product. The ipod for books. Seems simple to me.
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[QUOTE="CakeBalls"]It's made by apple. That's enough for millions of people to want it.nhh18

I think apple fanboys won't buy this. It is basically a big iphone. It plays app games, and all its apps are going to be from iphone store. I have no idea why anyone would buy this unless they are real huge apple fanboys.

They scare me. :shock:

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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="CakeBalls"] I thought the same thing when the kindle was released too. But look at that now.CakeBalls

how you thought that the kindle isnt a product anyone can use is beyond me....

well the price point was the biggest factor that I thought would mean that it wouldn't take off, and I was obviously wrong. Usually I'm right.

I'd rather just purchase a bunch of books than spend that much on a kindle, personally speaking.

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[QUOTE="CakeBalls"][QUOTE="nhh18"]I own an iphone. And think it is the greatest mobile device ever made. I have nothing against apple. It is that this isn't a product that has any use.

nhh18

I thought the same thing when the kindle was released too. But look at that now.

Kindle has a use it is allowing people not to carry tons of books instead of having all their books in one place. This doesn't have any use and is going to cost 3 times the kindle.

The iPad will be in direct competition with the Kindle. Apple is going to push books, magazines, newspapers, comic books, etc... very hard with this product on the iTunes Store. And people will buy them.
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="bsman00"] Very compelling argument you got dar

CakeBalls

I own an iphone. And think it is the greatest mobile device ever made. I have nothing against apple. It is that this isn't a product that has any use.

I thought the same thing when the kindle was released too. But look at that now.

How come? KIndle actualy managed to create viable alternative to real life books, e-ink devices are revolutionary this way. iPad is exactly like ereaders were before e-ink..ie total failure in this area

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[QUOTE="Jared2720"][QUOTE="nhh18"]

I thought the same thing when the kindle was released too. But look at that now.CakeBalls
Kindle has a use it is allowing people not to carry tons of books instead of having all their books in one place. This doesn't have any use and is going to cost 3 times the kindle.

The iPad will be in direct competition with the Kindle. Apple is going to push books, magazines, newspapers, comic books, etc... very hard with this product on the iTunes Store. And people will buy them.

Kindle looks like paper and feels more like a real book. I don't think iPad can match that feature.
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[QUOTE="CakeBalls"]It's made by apple. That's enough for millions of people to want it.nhh18

I think apple fanboys won't buy this. It is basically a big iphone. It plays app games, and all its apps are going to be from iphone store. I have no idea why anyone would buy this unless they are real huge apple fanboys.

It is apple's way of bridging the gap between the Iphone/Ipod market and the new e-reader market. I also doesn't hurt it is a much better/cooler system than the crappy netbooks that are out there.

This is probably the direction where laptops are heading anyway. Frankly, apple's success isn't just in releasing well designed and market products, but their willingness to release these products first. Now the competition is always going to be behind and producing the "ipad" clone product. Apple's genius is primarily in getting their name attached to a new technology FIRST.

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iPad? you mean this one? :lol:

Back on topic, I actually expected a graphic tablet or something, oh well. Theres not way I'm getting this thing.

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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="CakeBalls"] I thought the same thing when the kindle was released too. But look at that now.Jared2720

Kindle has a use it is allowing people not to carry tons of books instead of having all their books in one place. This doesn't have any use and is going to cost 3 times the kindle.

The iPad will be in direct competition with the Kindle. Apple is going to push books, magazines, newspapers, comic books, etc... very hard with this product on the iTunes Store. And people will buy them.

i dont know... the kindle's screen was made for reading for hours

have you ever tried reading for long periods on an LCD/LED screen? at least for me, it just irrates my eyes after a while

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#30 CakeBalls
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[QUOTE="CakeBalls"][QUOTE="nhh18"]I own an iphone. And think it is the greatest mobile device ever made. I have nothing against apple. It is that this isn't a product that has any use.

AdrianWerner

I thought the same thing when the kindle was released too. But look at that now.

How come? KIndle actualy managed to create viable alternative to real life books, e-ink devices are revolutionary this way. iPad is exactly like ereaders were before e-ink..ie total failure in this area

I know what kindle is and does and how it's better for reading than regular screens, but I didn't really think it would take off. I thought it would be a small niche market.
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It's funny. I actually never saw the value in these types of devices but the 4+ crates in my garage stuffed with paperbacks that I've read once and probably will never read again is getting a bit ridiculous.

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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="CakeBalls"] I thought the same thing when the kindle was released too. But look at that now.Jared2720

Kindle has a use it is allowing people not to carry tons of books instead of having all their books in one place. This doesn't have any use and is going to cost 3 times the kindle.

The iPad will be in direct competition with the Kindle. Apple is going to push books, magazines, newspapers, comic books, etc... very hard with this product on the iTunes Store. And people will buy them.

Amazon has digital distribution of kindle. Making it easier to sell. Period. This will probably sell at 2 to 3 times the price at best will basically seem useless to most buyers and will be harder to market than the kindle. I don't see how this could do anything but tank. Apple really missed the mark here.

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[QUOTE="Jared2720"][QUOTE="nhh18"]Kindle has a use it is allowing people not to carry tons of books instead of having all their books in one place. This doesn't have any use and is going to cost 3 times the kindle.

ogvampire

The iPad will be in direct competition with the Kindle. Apple is going to push books, magazines, newspapers, comic books, etc... very hard with this product on the iTunes Store. And people will buy them.

i dont know... the kindle's screen was made for reading for hours

have you ever tried reading for long periods on an LCD/LED screen? at least for me, it just irrates my eyes after a while

Nobody really knows how the screen will be for reading, but it's a fact that Apple is planning to resurrect the print industry the way it resurrected the music industry. Over the past year (probably longer), they've been securing deals with major publishers of books (including textbooks), magazines, newspaper and such. Their goal is to jumpstart the paradigm shift the print industry desperately needs.
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[QUOTE="CakeBalls"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]

how you thought that the kindle isnt a product anyone can use is beyond me....

Bread_or_Decide

well the price point was the biggest factor that I thought would mean that it wouldn't take off, and I was obviously wrong. Usually I'm right.

I'd rather just purchase a bunch of books than spend that much on a kindle, personally speaking.

If I had as much time to read today as I used to before I had a kid, I would easily spend the money for a kindle. I already have an entire large bookshelf packed full of books, many of which I have read more than once, or plan to read again once I have more time. So the idea lately of buying more books is a turn off for me due to the lack of space as well as the lack of time.

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iPad? you mean this one? :lol:

Back on topic, I actually expected a graphic tablet or something, oh well. Theres not way I'm getting this thing.

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well there is an app that turn your iphone in to a touch pad for you PC. so im sure using the ipad as a graphics tablet is possible
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Price is gonna be apple's make or break point on this. So if it ranges from 800-1000 I'd say there in a tight spot, but if they have one around 500, their golden

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Price is gonna be apple's make or break point on this. So if it ranges from 800-1000 I'd say there in a tight spot, but if they have one around 500, their golden

Animal-Mother

Competing against something with twice the price point is golden?

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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="CakeBalls"] I thought the same thing when the kindle was released too. But look at that now.Jared2720

Kindle has a use it is allowing people not to carry tons of books instead of having all their books in one place. This doesn't have any use and is going to cost 3 times the kindle.

The iPad will be in direct competition with the Kindle. Apple is going to push books, magazines, newspapers, comic books, etc... very hard with this product on the iTunes Store. And people will buy them.

I doubt they will come close to Kindle in books, newspapers and comic books though...well that's not really something kindle is doing much, but it can make up for the problems printed segments of those markets have

In the end though..the winner will be Amazon, as they will get even more ebook sales through Kindle app for ipad. Amazon wants to be iTunes of ebooks, not necessary ipod of ereaders.

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[QUOTE="Jared2720"][QUOTE="nhh18"]Kindle has a use it is allowing people not to carry tons of books instead of having all their books in one place. This doesn't have any use and is going to cost 3 times the kindle.

nhh18

The iPad will be in direct competition with the Kindle. Apple is going to push books, magazines, newspapers, comic books, etc... very hard with this product on the iTunes Store. And people will buy them.

Amazon has digital distribution of kindle. Making it easier to sell. Period. This will probably sell at 2 to 3 times the price at best will basically seem useless to most buyers and will be harder to market than the kindle. I don't see how this could do anything but tank. Apple really missed the mark here.

What are you talking about? Digital distribution of Kindle? Do you mean the device itself or the content? All of the books, magazines, newspapers and such will be purchased and downloaded directly from the iTunes store. That's digital distribution. I don't think you've really thought this through.
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[QUOTE="CakeBalls"]It's made by apple. That's enough for millions of people to want it.nhh18

I think apple fanboys won't buy this. It is basically a big iphone. It plays app games, and all its apps are going to be from iphone store. I have no idea why anyone would buy this unless they are real huge apple fanboys.

You really don't know Apple fans if you think Apple fans won't buy this.

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[QUOTE="Jared2720"] The iPad will be in direct competition with the Kindle. Apple is going to push books, magazines, newspapers, comic books, etc... very hard with this product on the iTunes Store. And people will buy them.Jared2720

i dont know... the kindle's screen was made for reading for hours

have you ever tried reading for long periods on an LCD/LED screen? at least for me, it just irrates my eyes after a while

Nobody really knows how the screen will be for reading, but it's a fact that Apple is planning to resurrect the print industry the way it resurrected the music industry. Over the past year (probably longer), they've been securing deals with major publishers of books (including textbooks), magazines, newspaper and such. Their goal is to jumpstart the paradigm shift the print industry desperately needs.

um.... its an LED/LCD screen... most likely youre looking at one right now

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iPad? you mean this one? :lol:

Back on topic, I actually expected a graphic tablet or something, oh well. Theres not way I'm getting this thing.

dog_dirt

well there is an app that turn your iphone in to a touch pad for you PC. so im sure using the ipad as a graphics tablet is possible

I'm sure apps will make it possible, but I'd rather they invest more into the hardware instead of emulating the feature with software. What I'm talking about is the 1000+ degrees of sensitivity of a standard wacom product, if they have something like that I'll pay more attention to the product, which I highly doubt. But I'm getting a cintiq in a few months, so why would I care. :)

Btw watch that vid I linked. ;)

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Price is gonna be apple's make or break point on this. So if it ranges from 800-1000 I'd say there in a tight spot, but if they have one around 500, their golden

Animal-Mother
No way it will be $500.
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well the price point was the biggest factor that I thought would mean that it wouldn't take off, and I was obviously wrong. Usually I'm right.CakeBalls
I'd rather just purchase a bunch of books than spend that much on a kindle, personally speaking.

If I had as much time to read today as I used to before I had a kid, I would easily spend the money for a kindle. I already have an entire large bookshelf packed full of books, many of which I have read more than once, or plan to read again once I have more time. So the idea lately of buying more books is a turn off for me due to the lack of space as well as the lack of time.

I'm just a little troubled that amazon can remove stuff from your kindle without your permission. These devices kind of worry me and I never feel like I truly own what I'm buying.
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I know what kindle is and does and how it's better for reading than regular screens, but I didn't really think it would take off. I thought it would be a small niche market.CakeBalls
That was the beauty of it. The reason it took off was because Amazon was smart to realize it shouldn't appeal to gadget geeks like us, but to typical book readers, who rarely bother with any gadgets at all. For them Kindle is a dream come true..single purpose device just doing for them they they love, without any hassle.

iPad might appeal to younger more hip people, but this segment isn't exactly the one who buys the most books

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#46 Jared2720
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] I'd rather just purchase a bunch of books than spend that much on a kindle, personally speaking.

If I had as much time to read today as I used to before I had a kid, I would easily spend the money for a kindle. I already have an entire large bookshelf packed full of books, many of which I have read more than once, or plan to read again once I have more time. So the idea lately of buying more books is a turn off for me due to the lack of space as well as the lack of time.

I'm just a little troubled that amazon can remove stuff from your kindle without your permission. These devices kind of worry me and I never feel like I truly own what I'm buying.

You don't truly own what you're buying. You never have. Copyright law prevents you from owning it. All you really own is the paper or ink on the page or the compact disc itself. You don't own the media. All you've ever been buying is the right to view it.
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Price is gonna be apple's make or break point on this. So if it ranges from 800-1000 I'd say there in a tight spot, but if they have one around 500, their golden

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No way it will be $500.

knowing apply, my guess is 2k