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#1 Method214
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Why is Sony releasing their PSV? When the iPhone 4s has already surpassed it in, hardware, and games? Sony is purposely trying to lose, by releasing their Vita, popularity with smart phones, more and more people will be playing games on the go, whilst do many other things on their phone. Theres no room for exclusive handheld gaming consoles, if there was MS would have brought out an exclusive mobile gaming machine, they didn't. if sony and nintendo want to stay relevant they better come up with a new gaming phone, or say asta la vista.
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#2 MushroomWig
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It's releasing Feb 22nd, you're also comparing a phone (which appeals to more people) to a gaming platform. Also the title is slightly misleading, you're implying that the iPhone outperforms the Vita in terms of hardware...not even close.
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iPhone is in the smartphone sector, Vita and 3ds focus on purely gaming to be honest.If the Vita had been a smartphone your arguement would have been a little more plausible.

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The PSVita is the real competition for the iPhone.PSvita it have 2 analogs the iphone not.The 3DS it doesn't count anyway.
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#5 C_Rule
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iPhone 4S has better hardware than PS Vita? Lol, no. Apple would not spend money on hardware comparable to PS Vita, the hipsters don't need that much power to browse Facebook.
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#6 Method214
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iPhone is in the smartphone sector, Vita and 3ds focus on purely gaming to be honest.If the Vita had been a smartphone your arguement would have been a little more plausible.

razgriz_101
The iPhone 4s, does gaming BETTER than the 3DS and the PSV. It's still valid.
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#7 MushroomWig
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

iPhone is in the smartphone sector, Vita and 3ds focus on purely gaming to be honest.If the Vita had been a smartphone your arguement would have been a little more plausible.

Method214
The iPhone 4s, does gaming BETTER than the 3DS and the PSV. It's still valid.

It really doesn't, there isn't a game on the iPhone that's even comparable to a dedicated gaming handheld. Let me know when a smartphone has exclusive game mascots that can rival Mario, Zelda, Sackboy and Nathan Drake.
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The 4S is - at best - roughly half as powerful as the Vita.

Where the Vita uses a quad-core Cortex-A9, the 4S uses a dual-core version.

Where the Vita uses a quad-core SGX543MP4+, the 4S uses a dual-core SGX543MP2.

I'm not sure how it could be any more clear that the Vita outperforms it. :P

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#9 Method214
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[QUOTE="C_Rule"]iPhone 4S has better hardware than PS Vita? Lol, no. Apple would not spend money on hardware comparable to PS Vita, the hipsters don't need that much power to browse Facebook.

The iPhone 4S, has the same hardware the iPad 2 does, it does out match the PSV, judging from the benchmarks it does. And nope, im not a hipster at all, hipsters cant afford macs.
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[QUOTE="Method214"][QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

iPhone is in the smartphone sector, Vita and 3ds focus on purely gaming to be honest.If the Vita had been a smartphone your arguement would have been a little more plausible.

The iPhone 4s, does gaming BETTER than the 3DS and the PSV. It's still valid.

I smell *insert someting bad* Does gaming better in what sense? Graphical capabilities? Id take good controls over good graphics with a touchscreen + gyro anyday.
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#11 MushroomWig
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The iPhone 4S, has the same hardware the iPad 2 does, it does out match the PSV, judging from the benchmarks it does..Method214
Do you have a link to back that up?
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#12 Method214
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[QUOTE="Method214"][QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

iPhone is in the smartphone sector, Vita and 3ds focus on purely gaming to be honest.If the Vita had been a smartphone your arguement would have been a little more plausible.

MushroomWig
The iPhone 4s, does gaming BETTER than the 3DS and the PSV. It's still valid.

It really doesn't, there isn't a game on the iPhone that's even comparable to a dedicated gaming handheld. Let me know when a smartphone has exclusive game mascots that can rival Mario, Zelda, Sackboy and Nathan Drake.

The upcoming Infinity Blade II, which is being developed with the iPhone 4S hardware in mind has already out performed what weve seen from the PSV. http://infinitybladegame.com/images/image3.jpg http://infinitybladegame.com/images/image1.jpg Games on the PSV will never look like that ^.
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#13 C_Rule
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And nope, im not a hipster at all, hipsters cant afford macs.Method214

LolwtfamIreading

Of course hipsters can't afford all the iCrap they have, their parents buy it, for them.

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#14 redskins26rocs
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most androids out performs iphone 4s but vita is way more powerful then any phone
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#15 Method214
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Lol, well true! Im not a fan of hipsters, and i dislike their hipster dress, they give Apple a bad name, but im not going to let Apples fanbase, stop me from enjoying apples great products, or tell the truth, that apples iPhone 4S, a phone, which out does a gaming machine, in what its exclusive in....gaming!
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#16 Method214
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most androids out performs iphone 4s but vita is way more powerful then any phone redskins26rocs
Actually iPhone 4S is the worlds fastest smartphone. Here look at the benchmarks. http://www.anandtech.com/show/4951/iphone-4s-preliminary-benchmarks-800mhz-a5-slightly-slower-gpu-than-ipad-2
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#17 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

iPhone is in the smartphone sector, Vita and 3ds focus on purely gaming to be honest.If the Vita had been a smartphone your arguement would have been a little more plausible.

Method214

The iPhone 4s, does gaming BETTER than the 3DS and the PSV. It's still valid.

lack of any real buttons like analogue sticks....yup its so much better for any tangiable gaming outside angry birds.

Playing SFIV on my mates was horrible, and i shudder to think what GTA3 will be like.

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My sister play games on Iphone..... all her girlfriends and childrens play game on iphone....... and they are not pure gamer. viva la Vita Loca
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most androids out performs iphone 4s but vita is way more powerful then any phone redskins26rocs
The iPhone 4S is currently at the top of most available benchmarks for smartphones. A lot of that may be due to the antiquated Android 2.x.x OS, but nonetheless, the 4S is currently the fastest phone on the market and it also has the best smartphone GPU.

But the Vita is indeed quite a bit more powerful.

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#20 nethernova
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The iPhone 4s, does gaming BETTER than the 3DS and the PSV.Method214
Oh yeah, the mighty touchscreen only gaming. Have fun.
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#21 nintendoboy16
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The PSVita is the real competition for the iPhone.PSvita it have 2 analogs the iphone not.The 3DS it doesn't count anyway.AtariKidX
Why doesn't the 3DS count? Because it's behind the Vita in terms of tech? That's one of the same arguments people leave out the Wii as a console.
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#22 Method214
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[QUOTE="Method214"][QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

iPhone is in the smartphone sector, Vita and 3ds focus on purely gaming to be honest.If the Vita had been a smartphone your arguement would have been a little more plausible.

razgriz_101

The iPhone 4s, does gaming BETTER than the 3DS and the PSV. It's still valid.

lack of any real buttons like analogue sticks....yup its so much better for any tangiable gaming outside angry birds.

Playing SFIV on my mates was horrible, and i shudder to think what GTA3 will be like.

Your not a visionary like Steve Jobs (R.I.P) was, if we all thought like that we'd get no where (no offense). Analogs, are the old way, we've done it, we've mastered it, and you've enjoyed, but please, its time to move on now. Ive never liked the analog sticks, and im glad and happy that the iPhone 4s has touch controls, lemme ask you this, does change scare you? The touch GUI controls that the iPhone 4S has, are better than analogue controls. Playing SF and IB, is enjoyable for me, games like Modern Combat, redefine the FPS genre.
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#23 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="Method214"] The iPhone 4s, does gaming BETTER than the 3DS and the PSV. It's still valid.Method214

lack of any real buttons like analogue sticks....yup its so much better for any tangiable gaming outside angry birds.

Playing SFIV on my mates was horrible, and i shudder to think what GTA3 will be like.

Your not a visionary like Steve Jobs (R.I.P) was, if we all thought like that we'd get no where (no offense). Analogs, are the old way, we've done it, we've mastered it, and we've enjoyed, but please, its time to move on now. The touch GUI controls that the iPhone 4S has, is better than analogue controls. Playing SF and IB, is enjoyable for me, games like Modern Combat, redefine the FPS genre.

dont get me wrong iPod touch is great but its just horrible for gaming full stop its like trying to say flash games are esentially better, there isnt really much high high quality titles on the Ipod/iPhone outside ports of games and at that heavily downgraded and hobbled by the touch screen where the buttons really help with those games.

Outside games like Angry birds and tetris im brutally honest in saying touchscreens such absolute balls at doing anything Modern combat was meh and hardly a revolution in any way.A revolution for the FPS genre is Halo or Half life not some mehtacular iphone game.

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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="Method214"] The iPhone 4s, does gaming BETTER than the 3DS and the PSV. It's still valid.Method214

lack of any real buttons like analogue sticks....yup its so much better for any tangiable gaming outside angry birds.

Playing SFIV on my mates was horrible, and i shudder to think what GTA3 will be like.

Your not a visionary like Steve Jobs (R.I.P) was, if we all thought like that we'd get no where (no offense). Analogs, are the old way, we've done it, we've mastered it, and you've enjoyed, but please, its time to move on now. Ive never liked the analog sticks, and im glad and happy that the iPhone 4s has touch controls, lemme ask you this, does change scare you? The touch GUI controls that the iPhone 4S has, are better than analogue controls. Playing SF and IB, is enjoyable for me, games like Modern Combat, redefine the FPS genre.

Now I know you be trollin', Touch screen controls better than tactile ones? Whatever you say man.
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#25 Bigboi500
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iPhone is not a dedicated gaming system and the Vita and 3DS are not cellphones. Why are you comparing them when they don't even play the same kinds of games? 90% of the people who bought the new iPhone 4S won't even play games on it, and the other 10% that do will be playing shallow 10 minute games that have poor touch-screen controls. :|

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#26 Method214
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Im comparing it, because the iPhone 4s, does gaming BETTER than an EXCLUSIVE gaming machine like the 3ds and the PSV.

Here watch the new IB2 gameplay.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL7p2P6Ft3Y

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Whatever man, i like playing with buttons.

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#28 LustForSoul
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Outperforms PSV? Hell no. With the bad bad gaming controls on the smartphones there's no comparing the two.
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Low level poster, troll baiting? Bring it on TC !!!

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#30 Deniable_Ops
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Im comparing it, because the iPhone 4s, does gaming BETTER than an EXCLUSIVE gaming machine like the 3ds and the PSV.

Here watch the new IB2 gameplay.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL7p2P6Ft3Y

Method214
This game just looks like one big quick-time event. I'll pass.
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Hardware wise the Vita is better, so I'm not sure what your getting at.

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#32 Method214
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[QUOTE="Method214"]

Im comparing it, because the iPhone 4s, does gaming BETTER than an EXCLUSIVE gaming machine like the 3ds and the PSV.

Here watch the new IB2 gameplay.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL7p2P6Ft3Y

Deniable_Ops

This game just looks like one big quick-time event. I'll pass.


Here watch the gameplay for Shadowgun, it's a gears of war clone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91BiEvk4Cs8

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#33 Method214
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Hardware wise the Vita is better, so I'm not sure what your getting at.

GTSaiyanjin2


Do you think the quad core cpu is actually going to make a difference at all for a res that small? nope

Its diminishing returns sony sabotaged themselves with this one.

I'll be doing more comparisons when the PSV comes out, comparing them with iPhone 4S games, you'll see theres no point in a quad core cpu for a hand held device that doesnt even need that power, since the it will be wasted on the PSV.

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[QUOTE="Deniable_Ops"][QUOTE="Method214"]

Im comparing it, because the iPhone 4s, does gaming BETTER than an EXCLUSIVE gaming machine like the 3ds and the PSV.

Here watch the new IB2 gameplay.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL7p2P6Ft3Y

Method214

This game just looks like one big quick-time event. I'll pass.

Here watch the gameplay for Shadowgun, it's a gears of war clone, which NOT surprisingly is better than the microsoft game. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91BiEvk4Cs8

touchscreen button, how awesome

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#35 lowkey254
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what's up with all of these iphone 4s fans not realizing that it's an actual phone while the vita and 3ds are actual gaming systems?

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#36 Method214
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[QUOTE="Method214"][QUOTE="Deniable_Ops"] This game just looks like one big quick-time event. I'll pass.r12qi

Here watch the gameplay for Shadowgun, it's a gears of war clone, which NOT surprisingly is better than the microsoft game. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91BiEvk4Cs8

touchscreen button, how awesome

Its true portable gaming, a true powerful system that can slip right in your pocket, which allows you to play the very best of games. The PSV cant EVEN fit in your pocket, cant make calls, has a low grade camera, and has low grade games.
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Im comparing it, because the iPhone 4s, does gaming BETTER than an EXCLUSIVE gaming machine like the 3ds and the PSV.

Here watch the new IB2 gameplay.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL7p2P6Ft3Y

Method214

That's pre-rendered stuff. I mean, you don't even walk yourself. You click once to go somewhere, which is always the same. The only thing that really moves is you and the enemy. That doesn't take too much power. Walking would also give clumsy controls, like most games.

I'd like to see something like Uncharted on that thing. Also, please, link more games than only IB, let's see what that piece of junk has to offer in gaming. I've got an ipod, I'm seeing the same stuff on my android device on the gaming market place as I'm seeing on the Ipods market. Angry Birds rip-offs and 2d stuff with again, bad controls.

Can't believe you compare a freaking smartphone with actual gaming handhelds. RAGE. I'm not hating on Iphone 4, it just isn't the same.

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#39 GTSaiyanjin2
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[QUOTE="GTSaiyanjin2"]

Hardware wise the Vita is better, so I'm not sure what your getting at.

Method214


Do you think the quad core cpu is actually going to make a difference at all for a res that small? nope

Its diminishing returns sony sabotaged themselves with this one.

I'll be doing more comparisons when the PSV comes out, comparing them with iPhone 4S games, you'll see theres no point in a quad core cpu for a hand held device that doesnt even need that power, since the it will be wasted on the PSV.

Just look at the changes the iphone 4 and 4s went by. The 4s CPU wise is about twize as fast because of the dual core A5 processor. And the becnmarks show that. Same res on both phones as well. So tech wise the Vita is better, how it performs on what ever OS sony decides to use we still dont know. But it does have a better CPU and GPU.

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[QUOTE="r12qi"]

[QUOTE="Method214"] Here watch the gameplay for Shadowgun, it's a gears of war clone, which NOT surprisingly is better than the microsoft game. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91BiEvk4Cs8Method214

touchscreen button, how awesome

Its true portable gaming, a true powerful system that can slip right in your pocket, which allows you to play the very best of games. The PSV cant EVEN fit in your pocket, cant make calls, has a low grade camera, and has low grade games.

uh so many wrong with this.

oh did you know skype is coming to vita :P

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#41 Method214
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Yes but the iPhone 4S NEEDED that power, since its also a phone, and a high grade movie video camera, ASWELL as a gaming machine. The PSV may have better specs, but that hardware will go un used.
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buttons > anything else /thread
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[QUOTE="GTSaiyanjin2"]

Hardware wise the Vita is better, so I'm not sure what your getting at.

Method214


Do you think the quad core cpu is actually going to make a difference at all for a res that small? nope

Its diminishing returns sony sabotaged themselves with this one.

I'll be doing more comparisons when the PSV comes out, comparing them with iPhone 4S games, you'll see theres no point in a quad core cpu for a hand held device that doesnt even need that power, since the it will be wasted on the PSV.

A resolution that "small"? You mean 540p, not far off from the 4S's prized Retina screen?

If anything, the Vita's 5" screen (the largest in handheld history) significantly increases physical screen real estate compared to the 4S, making graphical details easier to identify and potentially more immersive.

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The 4S is - at best - roughly half as powerful as the Vita.

Where the Vita uses a quad-core Cortex-A9, the 4S uses a dual-core version.

Where the Vita uses a quad-core SGX543MP4+, the 4S uses a dual-core SGX543MP2.

I'm not sure how it could be any more clear that the Vita outperforms it. :P

SakusEnvoy

This. Also I'm pretty sure the SDK on the vita allows a much lower coding than any phone around, so the Vita will probably look 3 or 4 times better than any phone out until that point. Also it's just stupid to comprare smart phones with gaming handhelds, the Vita has buttons and a strong line up, do you really want comprare Uncharted with angry birds? xD

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#45 dercoo
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

iPhone is in the smartphone sector, Vita and 3ds focus on purely gaming to be honest.If the Vita had been a smartphone your arguement would have been a little more plausible.

Method214

The iPhone 4s, does gaming BETTER than the 3DS and the PSV. It's still valid.

Thats odd

because the Vita has 2 touch screens to the iphones 1,

a larger screen,

more power

, dedicated buttons

and 2 analog sticks

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#46 Method214
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The iPhone 4S resolution is 960-by-640-pixel resolution at 326 ppi, the smaller screen space not only has the better resolution, but it gives you better quality gaming, larger resolution = true immersion, since you can play any where, LITERALLY! You can play for over 3-5 hours on the iPhone 4s, max gaming time on a PSV is 3-5 hours, and thats pushing it.
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#47 PA_DUTCH
Member since 2008 • 908 Posts

OMG i went to bed in the year 2011 and woke in 2012 after the TC got a PS Vita. My god it sucks too....according to the TC. I guess i had better run to the apple store so i don't miss out on the best gaming experience

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#48 Method214
Member since 2011 • 88 Posts
Why do you bring up Angry Birds, thats the only arguement you have means you lose. Infinity Blade II has already out done Uncharted GA.
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#49 GTSaiyanjin2
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Hardware wise the Vita is better, so I'm not sure what your getting at.

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Do you think the quad core cpu is actually going to make a difference at all for a res that small? nope

Its diminishing returns sony sabotaged themselves with this one.

I'll be doing more comparisons when the PSV comes out, comparing them with iPhone 4S games, you'll see theres no point in a quad core cpu for a hand held device that doesnt even need that power, since the it will be wasted on the PSV.

A resolution that "small"? You mean 540p, not far off from the 4S's prized Retina screen?

If anything, the Vita's 5" screen (the largest in handheld history) significantly increases physical screen real estate compared to the 4S, making graphical details easier to identify and potentially more immersive.

And its not always about the resolution.... if anyone has even seen the SGS2 Super AMOLED Plus screen it looks amazing. I was surprised at how good it looked considering its only a 800x480 in a 4.5 inch screen. The one on the Vita should be just as good since its a QHD OLED 5" screen.

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#50 Method214
Member since 2011 • 88 Posts
You better hurry, the iPhone 4S won't be there when you get there.