Is a 2014 launch for the next Xbox and PS4 a joke?

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#1 nameless12345
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The longest lasting console without a successor was the Famicom (aka the Japanese NES) which came out in 1983 and didn't get a successor all the way till 1990. That's a whole seven years but the console also got a disc drive and games had special in-cart mappers and even full sound chips for better graphics and sound. If the next Xbox and PS4 really come out in 2014 that would make them a whole 8 years (9 in 360's case) without a successor. I think it's pretty absurd that the original Xbox lasted only 4 years while the 360 should last so long (and even more ironic considering that it's the most breaking console of all times).

Many 3rd party devs (among them CryTek, DICE, Epic and UbiSoft) already suggest they'd like to get new console hardware and it's hard to think how the graphics of these consoles will look like in 2014. There will probably be a massive difference between them and the PC.

I think keeping the current consoles without a successor for so long will only work if the two console makers turn fully casual (likely) or make amazingly good games in the future (unlikely).

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#2 mrmcygan
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I'm predicting a E3 2012 announcement for both the Xbox 720 and PS4, along with a 2013 release date for both.

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#4 Nonstop-Madness
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E3 2012 announcement, Late 2012 or 2013 release.
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#5 Not-A-Stalker
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I think it's good that these consoles are lasting so long. I don't want to buy 3 new consoles every 5 or 6 years, I'm cool with 9.
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#6 23Jarek23
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I think it's good that these consoles are lasting so long. I don't want to buy 3 new consoles every 5 or 6 years, I'm cool with 9. Not-A-Stalker

Exactly...

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#7 EdenProxy
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Im fine with it. Graphics havent improved enough for a new generation of consoles and YES I play on pc.

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#8 sandbox3d
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E3 2012 announcement, Late 2012 or 2013 release. Nonstop-Madness

That's what I've been saying all along. Its funny though, some people expect Sony and MS to hold out till 2015.

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#9 millerlight89
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Im fine with it. Graphics havent improved enough for a new generation of consoles and YES I play on pc.

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It's not just about graphics, and I doubt you do.
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#10 Nonstop-Madness
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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]E3 2012 announcement, Late 2012 or 2013 release. sandbox3d

That's what I've been saying all along. Its funny though, some people expect Sony and MS to hold out till 2015.

Remember what Sony did with the PSP and PS3 ? PSP released late 2004 in Japan and the PS3 was announced at E3 2005. I could see Sony doing the same thing. NGP releases late 2011 in Japan and the PS4 is announced at E3 2012.
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#11 wakefulness
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Whether that statement is or is not a joke is up for you to decide, my friend.

Match up the funniest joke in your head against that one and cross examine. It is quite a simple process.

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#12 Kinthalis
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2012 announcement, but no release until 2014 as they've already said.

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#13 EdenProxy
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[QUOTE="EdenProxy"]

Im fine with it. Graphics havent improved enough for a new generation of consoles and YES I play on pc.

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It's not just about graphics, and I doubt you do.

I do indeed and since I use gamespot fuse it doesn't take alot of effort to prove that (unlike yourself). And yes graphics and physics are pretty much all we would need new console hardware for. Since the majority of PC games are still written for Direct X9 it would be much smarter for sony and microsoft to wait until future generations of Direct x and OpenGL become more standard.
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#14 raynimrod
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I personally can't see a release of the next Xbox or Playstation until 2014. It feels to me as though this generation is still pretty new - it's strange.

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#15 EliteM0nk3y
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Being in school, I wouldn't mind waiting till 2014. I know some people feel differently, but for money reasons, it would be better if they came out in 2014

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#16 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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I'm happy with consoles lasting that long.
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#17 bri360
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I think most are expecting a 2013 release. Im fine with that, id rather not spend another 600$ in the near future.

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#18 AmazonTreeBoa
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I would be fine with 2014. I am about to get a PS3 this year, so I would just pick up the PS4 in like 2017-18. By then, it will have a large library of cheap games as well as a few price drops on the system as well.

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#19 campzor
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im hoping for next year or the latest 2013
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#20 CRUSHER88
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Lets hope its soon. My second 360 is about to crap out and I really don't feel like buying a third 360 at this point.
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#21 Jermone123
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Its funny how 4 months ago I make a post on how the next gen 360 and PS3 will release in 2014. Everyone said no way! Now that we know the next Nintendo system will be announced this year E3 everyone is changing their mind. Xbox "720" will be out by end of 2014. That is the latest. There is no freakin way it will come out after 2014. After 2014 is too darn long.

Think about it... Holiday launch 2014 would be roughly 4 years from now. 4 years is a very very long time. People are going to be foaming at the mouth for a new system by then. This is why its smart for Nintendo to release "early".

Also, for the people thinking that there wont be much of a graphics jump. Your wrong... (IMO). An up to date gaming computer compared to the technology of a 360/ps3 is down right laughable... you console players dont even play at HD resolutions. I play at 2560x1600. I avg like 170 FPS in lfd2 lol. Its a joke. By the time the 720/ps4 come out they will have technology that is 8 years superior. Moore's law... thats like what? Over 16x more powerful... for an example take the horse power of your car, now times it by 16. lol my Honda civic would go from 150 HP to 2400 HP. lol I would never be late to work again...

I think u guys will be impressed with the next gen. Can't wait for Just Cause 3 on next gen!! :o

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#22 Vari3ty
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I am SOOO tired of people saying "the gap" between PC and consoles is becoming more noticeable. So what? If it bothers you so much, go play on a PC and get all the great graphics your heart could desire. The fact is many people, myself included, are more than satisfied with the current graphics on consoles. Not to mention how every gen prices increase, so many consumers don't want to pay the steep prices for new consoles. The 360 and PS3 are fine as they are for a couple more years, if it bothers you so much, deal with it and go buy a PC.

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#23 Shielder7
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Im fine with it. Graphics havent improved enough for a new generation of consoles and YES I play on pc.

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This and they said from the start it was a 10 year plan.
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#24 eboyishere
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i honestly DONT mind waiting a few years before the next console

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#25 kungfuchaos
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Expect a 2012 announcement with a Fall 2013 launch. This is dangerous for Sony and MS though as they will in fact be giving Nintendo a whole year to garner gamers attention with the N6. If Nintendo can ngather enough third party support and some big releases, it might be game over before it even starts.

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#26 Vari3ty
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Expect a 2012 announcement with a Fall 2013 launch. This is dangerous for Sony and MS though as they will in fact be giving Nintendo a whole year to garner gamers attention with the N6. If Nintendo can ngather enough third party support and some big releases, it might be game over before it even starts.

kungfuchaos

Until Nintendo actually gains some third party support, the Playstation and Xbox brands will in no way be threatened.

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#27 True-Legend86
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I personally can't see a release of the next Xbox or Playstation until 2014. It feels to me as though this generation is still pretty new - it's strange.

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I agree with you, had my PS3 since Dec 06 and the generation still fills new....PS3's hardware itself is built to last, no need to replace it so soon...
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#28 Xtasy26
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No, it's not a joke. Xbox and PS4 need an upgrade bad. With AMD's Llano coming out this summer you would be able to buy notebooks for $200-$300, in other words a price of a Xbox and PS3 and game at higher HD resolutions and settings. That's how bad it is getting. LOL.

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#29 daveg1
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i dont feel as if the ps3 has done enough this gen with its games..the 360 early on but in the last few year its done nothing.. i think we need new consoles from them to keep moving.
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#30 BodyElite
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Yes it's a joke, 2013 for me, consles are outdated we need the ps4 and the next xbox.TheGuardian03
Right after MS rushed to beat the competition by secretly launching the 360 a year earlier, both MS and Sony agreed to continue this generation for at least 8 years so when the time comes, technology will be drastically better. In a nutshell, they don't want gaming to turn into a race to see which company releases their half-baked console first, causing consumers to become less and less excited. This is one reason why Nintendo's next system will fail
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#31 painguy1
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Im just going to point my finger at FFXIII & Crysis 2....need moar RAM or we gonna has uber linearity

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#32 Cranler
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Im fine with it. Graphics havent improved enough for a new generation of consoles and YES I play on pc.

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How are graphics supposed to improve whenmost games are designed around current consoles?

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#33 BodyElite
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[QUOTE="EdenProxy"]

Im fine with it. Graphics havent improved enough for a new generation of consoles and YES I play on pc.

Cranler

How are graphics supposed to improve whenmost games are designed around current consoles?

Technology has to improve first... MS and Sony don't want their next system to only run Unreal Engine 4 but Unreal Engine 5. Nintendo will be stuck in the past, again
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#34 BilkeLegenda
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Considering that there are still many great games comming out im ok with a 2014 launch.Im looking forwards to Gears3,Skyrim,Saints Row3,Mass Effect3,and Batman Arkham City.Thats gonna keep alot of us busy,and thats not counting titles such as Codename Kingdoms,Binary Domain,and whatever else there is.

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#35 Kickinurass
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My favorite games this gen don't really require much power to run. They were just intelligently designed.

So, I stay this gen should go on as long as it needs to until developers realize a bland game is a bland game regardless of how pretty it looks.

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#36 mojosodopee
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Fall 2014 sounds perfect to me. next gen should be a HUGEEE jump in graphics.

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#37 Cranler
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[QUOTE="BodyElite"][QUOTE="Cranler"]

[QUOTE="EdenProxy"]

Im fine with it. Graphics havent improved enough for a new generation of consoles and YES I play on pc.

How are graphics supposed to improve whenmost games are designed around current consoles?

Technology has to improve first... MS and Sony don't want their next system to only run Unreal Engine 4 but Unreal Engine 5. Nintendo will be stuck in the past, again

Technology has improved quite a bit. How do you know what MS and Sony want? UE 4 looks incredible and surely gamers would be happy with that level of graphics for years. I highly doubt the Wii 2 is going to be able to run UE 4. Maybe UE 3 at 1080p with 4xaa
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#38 Vambran
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Longer console cycles are better for the consumer and developer. Consumer spends less money upgrading and developer spends less time ( and money? ) learning the ins and outs of makings games on that system.

Take Sega for example. They were releasing consoles almost every 2 years in the 90's causing alot of problems and ultimately them bowing out of the console race.

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#39 Phoenix534
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A 2012 announcement/launch sounds good to me. Console hardware is far too old and weak now.

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#40 quickposter
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I seriously think so. Sony are saying they'll wait that long just because they wasted all that money on PS3 and it took them ages to get a profit with it. They don't have the money to fund a new console. I can understand their position perfectly.

MS on the other hand is fooling itself beyond all recognition. They are saying 360 will last another 5 years because Sony are doing it. PS3 yes, but 360? MS jumping on the bandwagon with everything doesn't make you look "cool". It makes you look like hypocrites.

I can't speak for Sony but I think MS will definitely chicken out. We already know they are working on a new console and its only a matter of time before it comes out. And there is no way they will possibly beat project cafe to market.

360 is already showing its age and PS3 isn't far behind. But you can argue the PS3 is more future proof.

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#41 nameless12345
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[QUOTE="Cranler"]

[QUOTE="EdenProxy"]

Im fine with it. Graphics havent improved enough for a new generation of consoles and YES I play on pc.

BodyElite

How are graphics supposed to improve whenmost games are designed around current consoles?

Technology has to improve first... MS and Sony don't want their next system to only run Unreal Engine 4 but Unreal Engine 5. Nintendo will be stuck in the past, again

Come again? Unreal Engine 4 hasn't even been shown yet and it's possible the next-gen consoles won't be enough for it (I've heard it will require some monster multicore CPU and GPU to run). Even the "Project Samaritan" tech demo runs on a very upgraded version of the Unreal Engine 3.

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#42 GunSmith1_basic
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Nintendo's ideal situation is to be 3 years ahead of the compeition, or 3 years behind depending on how you look at it. Middle gen console. That way they can be the slightly better tech for half of a gen (eg project cafe) and then vastly inferior tech for the other half. That second half will be awkward because devs will gravitate towards the better tech so they can do more exciting things, but by the time those other consoles have significant userbases NIntendo can release a new console and cut down that advantage and even be slightly superior. The earlier the better for project cafe, but I don't see it coming until at least this time next year. I mean, we just heard about devs getting kits for the system a month ago.
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#43 JayQproductions
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They can go easily to 2014 or 2015 without a new console, most developers dont want a new console, they know how to make games for the current ones and the current ones already cost hundrends or millions of dollars to make a game on the current system and thats only gonna go up with new hardware and new engines. Graphics are more than good enough right now so even when they do come out with new consoles they need to focus on how we play the game, the AI, and re-playability and stop with the graphics, they're good how they are now.

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#44 Addict187
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Good God I hope they come out soon. Life is to short to waite. And to all you broke @#$% who complaine you have no money for a new gen.I don't know what world you live in but $500 is nothing for something that will bring you years of entetaiment.some of you reminde of A kid who I work with. Whocomplains he has no money for a I phone. But then orders a$45 lunch at work the same day.Stop throwing your money away and you will have lots of money for the toys you want.

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#45 PAL360
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I would like them by 2012. Games like Battlefield 3 and Skyrim should be next gen launch tittles.

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#46 themyth01
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With Wii 2 coming 2012, I think a 2013 release for next xbox and ps isn't far off.
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#47 racing1750
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Lets hope its soon. My second 360 is about to crap out and I really don't feel like buying a third 360 at this point.CRUSHER88
Why not send it in for repair? The cost will be tiny when you compare it to the price of buying another 360 :)

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#48 deactivated-5ac102a4472fe
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Id say that the 2014 is atleast plausible, will they come out before? Maybe. But I guess that will all depend on how long it takes them to get componants together and building the things till they are pleased.

Now, 3 years IS a long time to make a console I gather, but when we look at the problems both MS and Sony had this gen, I am certain they will take thier time NOT to repeat this gens failures.

My guess? 2013-2014. They also need a launch lineup, a console without launchtitles will hurt some just looks at the 3DS, also if you factor in the economy you will see more reasons.

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#49 Jermone123
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Good God I hope they come out soon. Life is to short to waite. And to all you broke @#$% who complaine you have no money for a new gen.I don't know what world you live in but $500 is nothing for something that will bring you years of entetaiment.some of you reminde of A kid who I work with. Whocomplains he has no money for a I phone. But then orders a$45 lunch at work the same day.Stop throwing your money away and you will have lots of money for the toys you want.

Addict187

Seriously... what is with all these broke people? I dont know if its just kid without jobs or what. If you cant afford $500 every 5 years that is bad...

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#50 dc337
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Seriously... what is with all these broke people? I dont know if its just kid without jobs or what. If you cant afford $500 every 5 years that is bad...Jermone123
Why are you assuming the issue is money? Do you realize how long it takes for a game to be developed this gen? A new console will push development costs even higher which will result in fewer games. Graphics are good enough for most gamers, not everyone obsesses over pixels.